chen quanguo and other very senior officials in the prc and ccp bear primary responsibility for acts that have occurred in xinjiang. we can now speak to sophie richardson who serves as the china director at human rights watch. shejoins us now she joins us now from washington. thank you for making the time for us. this was an unofficial tribunal. does it have any teeth? will it romped any change? i does it have any teeth? will it romped any change?— does it have any teeth? will it romped any change? i think the heafinas romped any change? i think the hearings and — romped any change? i think the hearings and the _ romped any change? i think the hearings and the verdict - hearings and the verdict announced today are powerful reminders that the chinese government continues to commit serious human rights crimes against xinjiang, across uyghur �*s in against xinjiang, across uyghur �*sin xingjong, and it is urgent for governments to come together to pursue formal investigations with referrals to establish legal institutions. that is the appropriate response to violations of this scope and scale. �* �* , ,., violations of this scope and scale. �* �* , ., scale. the bbc put some of the claims made — scale. the bbc put some of the claims made by _ scale. the bbc put some of the claims made by the _ scale. the bbc put some of the claims made by the tribunal -