well, i'm going to be discussing all of that with these two. there they are, an it energy watcher from greenpeace and the vice president of a huge multinational who specialise in internet connections and data centres all around the world. also, can you help heat a city by streaming the latest cat video? i'm going to be catching up with the big boss of one of europe's top power companies capturing waste energy to warm your homes. wherever you'rejoining me from around the world, once again, a big hello and a warm welcome to the show. you know, all of our lives are moving more and more online and more and more of that life is now in the cloud. we store our photos,