Transcripts For BBCNEWS Victoria Derbyshire 20170705

Were identifying cases in isolation, whereas by its very nature, both stalking and harassment occurs as a result of really pernicious and persistent offending. And officers and prosecutors were missing that, which meant that victims were left at risk. Our Home Affairs Correspondent, danny shaw, is in the studio. This is not good, is it . It is a terrible report, really, and it shows failings at every stage of the Criminal Justice shows failings at every stage of the criminaljustice process, from the moment that an allegation of harassment or stalking is made, those crimes are not being reported 01 those crimes are not being reported or recorded properly, sometimes not being recorded at all. Victims are not being dealt with properly, Risk Assessment are being done and investigations arent being carried out properly. One of the most disturbing findings from this report is that it says there is concrete evidence that police are Issuing Warnings the perpetrators, rather than conducting thorough investigations, these are called Police Information notices. So they are kind of slapping these warnings on and thinking that is it, case done, rather than actually investigating the case and potentially bringing criminal charges, which could obviously lead toa charges, which could obviously lead to a much higher punishment. And so the recommendations . In terms of those warnings is that that whole system should be overhauled. There area system should be overhauled. There are a whole raft of other recommendations in terms of improving training, making officers more aware of the powers that they have and increasing understanding amongst police and prosecutors that they dont treat a Stalking Offence in isolation, but see it as part of a pattern of a series of incidents is. Danny shaw is our Home Affairs Correspondent and we will talk more about that later on in the programme. If you have experience of stalking and you contacted the police, let us know how you were treated. The rest of the mornings news with joanna. Most of the families who lost their homes in the Grenfell Tower fire are still living in hotels despite government pledges to rehouse them all by today. There was anger and frustration at a meeting with police and the westminster coroner last night, where residents demanded to know why there have been no arrests. The coroner is said to have described the scene inside the building as apocalyptic. Nick quraishi reports. This was the first opportunity for families to put their questions directly to police and the westminster coroner. One reason this private meeting lasted more than 3. 5 hours. Its understood relatives were told in graphic detail the challenge that forensic teams are facing in even trying to find dna which could identify loved ones. They say the information they are getting isnt good enough. We personally asked, where is our family . We want to know, is our families bodies still there . Is there anything from them . Whatever it is, we want to know exactly what it is, do not hide anything. And the answers that were coming back were, we dont know, we dont know, we dont know. Today is the deadline set by theresa may to rehouse the 158 families made homeless by the disaster. According to the grenfell Response Team, that target has been met, with 139 formal offers made, butjust nine have been accepted. Lawyers for survivors say most of the accommodation is simply unsuitable. Three weeks after the tragedy, police still maintain their investigation will be exhaustive and will bring the answers that the families desperately deserve, however long it takes. Nick quraishi, bbc news. Police repeatedly failed a disabled refugee who sought the help before being murdered in bristol for years ago, according to a report by the independent Police Complaints commission. Bijan ebrahimi made dozens commission. Bijan ebrahimi made d oze ns of commission. Bijan ebrahimi made dozens of calls to police, with threats to kill. He was eventually beaten to death by a neighbour, who wrongly believed he was a paedophile. They then and Somerset Police say they have made changes and have apologised to his family. Bijan ebrahimi. He told Police Dozens of times that his life was in danger. To just do whatever you can. What part of be quiet do you not understand . Shut up now a report says that over several years, the iranian refugee was repeatedly failed by avon and Somerset Police, treated as a nuisance, not as a victim. In 2013, he was beaten to death by a neighbour outside his flat and his body set on fire. The independent Police Complaints Commission Says there were systematic failures in the way he was dealt with. Todays report runs to hundreds of pages and it says this whole case has laid bare what it calls the disrespect, the prejudice and even contempt with which some officers and staff treated Bijan Ebrahimi in the days before he was murdered here. Reading that report and just coming to terms with what happened to bijan, it was devastating. He always thought that he is in a country that police are there to protect people. And he couldnt see anything beyond that. Last year, pc kevin duffy and Community Support officer Andrew Passmore were jailed, after being convicted of misconduct in a public office. Pcs Leanne Winter and helen harris ere cleared by the jury, but were later sacked by a misconduct hearing. We accept that we failed Bijan Ebrahimi at his time of greatest need and throughout that time, he was respectful and he had confidence and trust in us, the police. And we let him down and for that, we are sorry. Avon and Somerset Police say they have improved the way that they deal with Vulnerable People as a result of this case. Bijans sisters are still waiting for the Local Councils report. There are calls for the government to overhaul its approach to Mental Health to halt the trend of Over Representation of black people in Mental Health services. The think tank the centre for Mental Health says black people are being failed because of institutional racism. The Department Of Health says it wants to make sure that everyone, regardless of ethnicity, age or background, gets the treatment they need. And well have more on this story at around half past nine. The United States has confirmed that a weapon fired into the sea ofjapan by north korea was an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile. The north Korean Leader kim jong un described the test as a gift to the americans on their day of independence. The us and South Korea Havejointly warned the north that war in saudi arabia being the biggest promoter obviously missed extremism in the uk. A study by the right of Centre Foreign policy think tank the henryjackson Centre Foreign policy think tank the Henry Jackson society has Singled Out Qatar as a centre for coders. A study says victims from stu d e nts a study says victims from students from the poorest backgrounds will leave university with £57,000 of debt. The report from the European Institute for fiscal studies says most graduates will still be paying off Student Loa Ns will still be paying off Student Loans into their 50s and three quarters will never clear the debt. The government says those from poorer backgrounds are going to university at a record rate, up 40 since 2009. Experts are warning that a new generation of lifelike sex robots could lead to ethical risks and the objectification of women. A report for the foundation of responsible robotics is that whilst the sidewalks could provide a valuable source of companionship for the elderly or disabled they could also be used to satisfy desires that would otherwise be illegal. The report also raises concerns that female versions are based on representations garnered from pornography. That is a summary of the latest bbc news, more at 930. I knew a student with £50,000 worth of debt from your student days . If so, let me know. That is the normal apparently, 50 k. As you know, you start paying it back when you earn a salary of £21,000, and the interest charged does not increase until your salary reaches £41,000. Comprehensive analysis by the iss shows that most people will not repay that debt. The Interest Rate is due to go up in the autumn. It is for. 6 at the moment, it is due to go for. 6 at the moment, it is due to 9 up for. 6 at the moment, it is due to go up to 6. 1 . So if you have that kind of debt, tell us how it is impacting you, or if you find the payment of whatever it is, 70 quid a month, depending on what you own, is absolutely doable. Let me know, we will talk about that at about quarter to ten. Now a bit of sport with tim hague. The second round of wimbledon begins today with andy murray taking on Germanys Dustin Brown, but the big Talking Point Yesterday was the number of players pulling out of their first round number of players pulling out of theirfirst round matches, number of players pulling out of their first round matches, they still earn £35,000 for turning up, and while Novak Djokovic and Roger Federer say it could be time to change the reels, Martin Klizan lasted only 40 minutes against djokovic before his calf injury proved too much. Federers match didnt last much longer. Alexandr dolgopolov was forced off with an ankle injury. The seven time champion and djokovic joked ankle injury. The seven time champion and djokovicjoked they should go out and play a practice match because they have had so little time on court. Away from the tennis, Mark Cavendish is out of the Tour De France after a crash at the end of yesterdays fourth stage. The briton broke his shoulder after appearing to be elbowed by watch a peter sagan, who was subsequently disqualified but is appealing that decision. Rangers suffered one of the worst of it in their history last night, leading 1 0 from the first leg at ibrox, they were knocked out of the Europa League by a part time team from luxembourg, losing 2 0 on the night, 2 1 on aggregate. I will be back with more sport in the next hour. Victoria, you will be having your daily wimbledon catch up at around 9 30am. Its three weeks since the fire at Grenfell Tower in North Kensington, which killed at least 80 people and left hundreds without a home. On this programme exactly a week ago, the Housing Minister made it very clear that temporary homes would be offered to everyone affected by today. Today, were back here in North Kensington to catch up with some of those we first met on that wednesday. To bring you more remarkable stories of those who escaped, and to find out how people are doing. Were still displaced. We still have missing people. We still have no answers. Its constantly were expected to chase things, go here, phone this, queue here, do that. Its no surprise to me at all that you have an empty chair there, having worked on the council for 11 years, the depth of incompetence is absolutely mind boggling. Youll notice that weve a couple of chairs here now, empty chairs. This is a photograph of the leader of Kensington And Chelsea borough council, thats nick paget brown. So im asking you respectfully, check your moral compass. Check it. And forget your label of mp, human. Yes. What does a human basically need . Then you will go forward. Then you will gain the respect and understanding of these people. 0k. Applause. What i need to know, people are struggling to get their own place. Why . I dont want money. Were not looking for money. And the problem that we have is that we now know there is a price tag on the value of peoples lives. The Housing Minister, im told, is here, his name is alok sharma and he has agreed to be with us today after pressure from residents. So i know you have questions for him. I think hes here. Alok sharma, hello. Hi, im victoria. Take a seat. Thank you very much for giving us your time today. Why is it ok that there are thousands of empty homes right in this area, and these people are homeless . I was happy in my house. I work hard. I had a good house. Im not going to accept it. Olu does not want Temporary Accommodation, he wants permanent accommodation, he wants good permanent accommodation. That is not too much to ask. Can you promise them that . Victoria, so what we have said is. Just say yes or no. Exactly. You create hell. You created it to save money, to keep money in your pocket, for these people to be poor. You meant it to be like that. You meant it. Can you please be specific as to what package you are offering in terms of housing, rehousing the residents back into this borough. And be specific, please, without the flowery words. Can we just get him to speak . Otherwise theres no commitment. Let him do that. Let the minister speak, hear what he is committing to. Please let us know what your commitment is. So what weve committed to, is, is anyone whose home has been destroyed, will be housed by next wednesday in good accommodation, and then we will work with, and in housing that is acceptable to them. So what we are not going to do is, you are offered a home, you dont like it and youre still asked to go in, that is not going to happen. 139 families have been offered temporary homes. Only 14 have been accepted. Weve been spending time with the family. He has been offered a temporary home, he explains why he turned it down. So when we last spoke, you were staying in a hotel in paddington. Where are you staying now . Im staying at a friends house, which is on the ground floor. Did you leave the hotel . Yeah. Why . The room was too small forfour of us. It is not enough. Last week on our programme, you met the Housing Minister, and i understand you went to westwood to have another surgery with him. What did he say . He said he would do his best. Not his best, actually, he said i would be made an offer by next wednesday, which is technically in two days time. Have you been given an offer . I was offered a property which is outside the borough. Where is it . Its in westminster. And its a bigger property than my initial one, which effectively means im paying more rent. Not yet, but in a years time. Did you accept the property . No, i declined it, because it feels like im being offered something i did not request. It doesnt meet my needs. Its not within the borough or the area where we feel safe. To get out of an area i have known for over 25 years is hard. If someone said that you need to be more flexible in terms of the housing you choose, what would you say to them . Im trying to be as flexible as i can already. Were already going through undignified struggle, the crisis, the trauma. How much more do we need to bend our back before the local authority start pulling up their socks and start doing what theyre supposed to be doing for the citizens of this country . In terms of getting rehoused, what is the next step . We have to keep putting pressure on. What more can i do directly for my family other than sit down with the Secretary Of State and say look, and the ministerfor housing, this is how you can accommodate us. Please contact me when you can. Would you like to meet with the minister again, and what would you say . I would say the same thing i said when i met him. This is how you can accommodate us. We do not need Temporary Accommodation. You do not need to put me and my family in a hotel. These are our needs. Meet our needs, orjust tell the truth, that you cannot meet our needs. Its simple. If you cant meet the requirements, its simple. Just be straight. Tell us the truth. If you cant do it, tell us the truth. Mahad egal isnt alone almost all of the men, women and children affected by the fire still living in hotel rooms. A leaked government letter seen by this programme suggests some are worried if they take up the offer it mightjeapordisde their chances of getting a new luxury flat in the heart of kensington. Our Reporterjim Reed has been looking into this. Jim what have you found out . The Authorities Say they have contacted every single household. 158 Housing Assessment is taking place. 139 have been offered some form of Temporary Accommodation. Not permanent accommodation. Six months sorry to help get people back on their feet. Just 14 have accepted that offer. The kind of accommodation. Two bedroom flat in chelsea. Viewed by one of the families earlier this week. We understand under the terms of the arrangement, the government and Local Council has said all rent, Council Tax Bills will be paid for after 12 months, after 12 months they will be expected to pay a standard social rent on the property. Lets go through the reasons why theyre not taking up the offers. We spoke to around 20 survivors yesterday. Most people are saying it is because of the distance away from North Kensington, that they are offered a place. A lot of cases in different fathers. People telling us they want to stay close to the local community. They know people there, their kids may be in school. A wider issue, and distrust of the authorities. Particularly kensington and Chelsea Council. People think if they take the Temporary Accommodation outside the borough, they may never get back to the area they know. People were told they would be offered 68 flats in the development called kensington road. On the open market these flats go for well north of £1 million each. It appears that by offering these comets may be deterring people from taking Temporary Accommodation. We have seen a Temporary Accommodation. We have seen a letter from Temporary Accommodation. We have seen a letterfrom sajid Temporary Accommodation. We have seen a letter from sajid javid to residents. He says, i know some of you are worried about accepting Temporary Accommodation in case it reduces chances of being offered permanent housing, or the houses are kensington row. When we spoke to people, this did not come up. Certainly a concern for the government. Why cant the Local Council provide more flats, homes near the tower itself . This comes down to the wider question around social and Council Housing stock. There are zero social houses available in this borough. We were told because they are all being reserved, for the ones are being reserved. Even then, just not enough houses in the borough. 2781 people in that borough alone on the Council House waiting list. We think between ten years, they have created an extra 690 places. One of the lowest rates in the whole of london. Real difference between people who want to get a Council House in the borough, and the amount available. That is why it is so difficult to rehouse people locally. Anything else that can be done . The new labourmp said else that can be done . The new labour mp said this yesterday, the council to go out and buy new properties available. It is available. There are 143 houses for sale and a half Million Pounds in Kensington And Chelsea county. The council as £300 million. The problem is the size of the houses. Only 19 of those 143 are two bedroom and above. How useful they would be for see largerfamilies above. How useful they would be for see larger families very debatable. Some of you feel ingratitude is being shown by some of the former g Re Nfell Tower being shown by some of the former Grenfell Tower residents. John saying that. The Council Working ha rd to saying that. The Council Working hard to rehouse them. You cannot manufacture houses. Bars says the straight with the survivors, the Temporary Accommodation is out of the area. I understand this is not realistic to rehouse all of them are kensington, they need to at least offer property of the same red. Rent. We are now hearing the government will sending a task force to ta ke government will sending a task force to take over parts of kensington and Chelsea Council. Lets talk now to chebiouni salah, he lived on the ninth floor with his wife and two children. His brother in law, his wife, and their children were on the 23rd floor and all lost their lives. Chebiouni, you escaped with your family from the ninth floor and now you need housing for four of you . What have you been offered . Temporary accommodation. Where was that, what was it like . The last one was only holland road. In the basement. We refuse that one. Did you go and look at it . Holland park road is quite close to where you are. Certainly nearer than westminster, and pimlico. Quite close, but temporary. I dont want the temporary first i am already in Temporary Accommodation, in the hotel. What is it like living in the hotel. What is it like living in the hotel with your family . Like hell. Hotel. What is it like living in the hotelwith your family . Like hell. I am stuck in the four corners. You said it is like hell. I cannot speak it is too frustrating. Three beds, four of us in there. Clearly you are prepared to stay in that hotel room, and wait for something permanent to come up. Even though that might take months . Even though that might take months . Evenif even though that might take months . Even if it took months or years i would stay there. I dont care. I lost my flat, five members of my family, i have nothing to lose. I will stay there until they give me a permanent fluxes what do you say is the small number of people suggesting there is an element of ingratitude. You are not accepting this Temporary Accommodation . ingratitude. You are not accepting this Temporary Accommodation . I lost everything. They have lost nothing. They are just talking. I am living in hell, not them. They should walk in your shoes. That is the right thing to say. Thank you very much for talking to us. We appreciate your time. Living in a hotel room with four people, in three beds. Despite that being hell, he would rather wait there for something permanent to be offered. Heresjoanna in the bbc newsroom with a summary of todays news. Victims of harassment and stalking in england and wales are being left at risk because of failings by police and prosecutors, according to an official report. Two watchdogs found that crimes werent being recorded, investigations were poorly conducted and Legal Protection wasnt offered to enough victims. They examined 112 cases in detail and concluded that none had been dealt with well. The United States and south korea have jointly warned north korea that the majority of survivors of the g Re Nfell Tower the majority of survivors of the Grenfell Tower fire remain the majority of survivors of the Grenfell Towerfire remain in hotels despite the deadline offered by the Prime Minister to rehouse everyone in Temporary Accommodation. Victims expressed frustration in a meeting with ministers and councillors. Avon and Somerset Police have admitted they repeatedly failed refugee he was beaten to in bristol. The report by the watchdog says officers is responding poorly when he asked for help in the years before he was murdered. The force says it has made changes, and apologised to his family. The United States and south korea have jointly warned north korea that war cannot be ruled out, following pyongyangs Intercontinental Ballistic Missile test yesterday. The two countries top officers based in south korea said Self Restraint was a choice, which could change at any time. The north Korean Leader, kim jong un, described the test as a gift to the americans on their day of independence. A study says students from the poorest backgrounds will leave university with £57,000 worth of debt. The report by the Institute For Fiscal Studies says most graduates will be paying off Student Loa Ns graduates will be paying off Student Loans into the 50s, and three quarters will never pay off the debt. The government says students from poorer backgrounds are going to university a record rate. Amy says, i havejust amy says, i have just completed a five year course studying veterinary science. I have loans of nearly £70,000. I will have to earn £48,000 before i pay off anything other than the interest. This is below the average wage in my profession. I will not pay off my loan. I see it asa will not pay off my loan. I see it as a feed. I will have two paid to do thejob i want as a feed. I will have two paid to do the job i want to do. As a feed. I will have two paid to do thejob i want to do. I hope the government do not change the terms causing me to pay off an affordable instalments. Noah says, i will keep this short. This is incredibly hard to pay for i am relying i parents. My to pay for i am relying i parents. My Student Loan Debt is 28,000 820. Foran my Student Loan Debt is 28,000 820. For an undergraduate degree course. Jewish and costs were £3000. Did a masters in science. I needed a Career Development loan of £4000 whilst working part time. Im doing a ph. D. With a £13,000, over one grand a month. I have to pay monthly for the Career Development loan. After rent a £500 i have so little left for food and normal costs i have absolutely no savings. I have ove rd rafts. Have absolutely no savings. I have overd rafts. I have absolutely no savings. I have overdrafts. I hope you can let people know how difficult this is. We would talk more about student debt in the next half hour, your very welcome. Lets head to wimbledon now, and talk to sally nugent and the main Talking Point there seems to be not so much about tennis but a lack of it players earning £35,000 for about 40 minutes work whats been going on . Who knew . Actually everybody here knew about it because it is a very particular wimbledon rule. Having yesterday, the two retirements on centre court, in the djokovic and federer match, their opponents both retired because of an injury. This was hugely disappointing for the crowd, because you come here and you expect to see two great whopping great matches yesterday, and actually their opponents both retired with an injury. A lot of talk in the press about the fact that they are coming on the court potentially knowing they are injured, knowing they are not 100 fit but wanting to play the match because, guess what, you earn £35,000 just doing what they did yesterday. I heard pat cash yesterday, from all the modern winner, talking about not being the rules. If you were offered a chance to come out and have a go, you dont know what will happen to Roger Federer, you might slip and fall over on his way to the match, you dont know what will happen to djokovic, so you cant blame for having a go. If you are a premier League Football and injured, you are still earning money, so i think it is perhaps something when wood and will have to look at. Both Novak Djokovic and Roger Federer have said it is probably time to change the rules, or certainly to look at them to potentially reward players who are injured right at the last minute to come play the match. Lets talk about todays play, andy murray seems to be ok, injury wise, what about the other british players . Andy murray does seem ok, doesnt it, so far, so good. I will talk to alex ward, who was one of the british players. He played yesterday. You lost yesterday against kyle edmund, but you had a true mendis experience here. It was your mums 60th birthday, we had your mums 60th birthday, we had your mums 60th birthday, we had your mum on the programme and she was obviously just so your mum on the programme and she was obviouslyjust so proud to see you here and playing. She is a bit of fans favourite, i have had quite a bit of messages, it was a great occasion on her birthday and i think idid her occasion on her birthday and i think i did her proud. And of course you come here and you earn your money and play your game, which is great for someone like you, you really are working hard and working the circuit, it is important you make that money. That money is massive, anybody who was outside the world top 50, that money can be a massive benefit to invest in tennis. Lets talk about today, andy murray seems 0k, talk about today, andy murray seems ok, but he is playing dustin brown. Tell us what you know about him. Ok, but he is playing dustin brown. Tell us what you know about himlj have played him, i beat him in germany a couple of years back and he is really up and down, you really dont know what you will get. I am sure he will hit some ridiculous shots today, he has all sorts of tricks, but i think andy will pull through. He is playing better now. He will be solid. The he is a real fans favourite. Jo konta is playing today, she has quite a tough match, donna vekic chester they played in the final, and in nottingham, and donna vekic won. Heather has a tough seed, a latvian girl who likes the grass. Aljaz bedene as well. He played a great match against ka rlovic played a great match against karlovic the other day, i watched it but i think it will recover and get through today. Thank you for bearing with us for that now a traditional fire alarm during the Victoria Derbyshire sport bulletin. I should tell you, i cant show you because of our camera angles, we are right next to the royal box here, and they have special cushions. Do they . Describe them. Looks very co mforta ble. Describe them. Looks very comfortable. Can you not grab one . Can we show the cushions . A little look. There we go. My cameraman will kill me for this, showing his workings. They dont look that comfort . They are a lot comfier than these, i can tell you laughter i wouldnt complain. It is good to know that the Emergency Procedures are working as well as they were 24 hours ago. It is nearly 20 to ten, welcome to the programme. Are black people being failed by the Mental Health system because of institutional racism . If youre a black man, youre 17 times more likely than a white man to be diagnosed with a serious Mental Health condition such as schizophrenia. If youre black, youre also four times more likely to be sectioned. Why is that . Our reporter isaac fanin has been investigating has been investigating. My name is eche ogbuono and ive been sectioned once under the Mental Health act. I was expecting to go to the hospital but in actual fact they took me to the Police Station, a police cell. My name is Maitreya Al Eboni and ive been sectioned by the Mental Health service twice in the last six years. I wasnt made aware that i was Being Sectioned and no one could give me any clarity as to what was taking place. Being placed in those four walls was one of the most damaging things that they could have done in that State Of Mind that i was in. This year in the uk, at least one in four adults will be affected by the Mental Health condition affected by a Mental Health condition but it is black people who are disproportionately affected. They are more likely to be sectioned under the 1983 Mental Health act. And a black man is 17 more times likely than a white man to be diagnosed with a serious Mental Health conditions, such as schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. Eche has bipolar disorder, and was initially detained under section 186 of the Mental Health act. This part of the law gives the police the power to detain a person for 72 hours if they feel they are either in immediate need of care or control, or if its in the interests of the person or for the protection of other people. According to the rules of the act, the individual is to be taken to a place of safety, usually a hospital, for assessment. But in eches case he was taken to a Police Station. He was then moved to a hospital, before being discharged. Section two of the Mental Health act allows a person to be detained for longer, up to 28 days. After being released, there was an altercation at his home a few days later that led to his parents calling the police. There was a knock on the door, it was the police once again, and im in my room and im like, you know what, this time im not going. The first time i was compliant and so they were like, section two, 28 days, you have to go back there. Physically they tried to get me down, that didnt work, so they brought the taser out, 50,000 volts. And before i know it im back in the handcuffs. Back in hospital to remove the taser hook and then before you know it, back in the ward. And those experiences with the police and the taser made me more resistant. And more distrusting. Of the system in general, as it felt like a prison like experience. Ifelt like a criminal, i didnt have my freedom any more, how do you want me to now engage with this system . The matter of black Over Representation within the Mental Health system is a complex one. Issues like unemployment and poverty play a part in the inequality but it is stories like eches which partly go towards fostering the stigma that Mental Health has within the black community. Everybodys saying oh, were going to get this all right and this is what were going to do. Jacqui dyer is a councillor for lambeth in london which is the borough with the biggest black population in the country. Shes also the vice chair on the government Mental Health task force. They are going into the system in the most coercive way, and then, what is the sort of stories that permeate throughout the community, is that you die if you go into those institutions. Its not that you get recovery, its that you die. But that leads to black people presenting later . Yes, yes. So what we have to do is change that story. We have to change the narrative by actually changing the services. Of course, Mental Health is notjust confined to black people, the experience of Mental Health can affect anyone. Absolutely. But why do you think black people are so disproportionately affected . What we find is that theres a differential experience. These i might describe as sort of like structural inequalities of where unconscious bias, institutional racism, whatever you are more comfortable with in terms of terminology, which means that decisions that are made throughout these structures, sort of bias the experience of those communities. And that, compounded with its relationship with one sort of multiple characteristics, compounds somebodys experience and makes them more vulnereable to having Mental Health challenges i would say. Just that feature alone, youve got 18 24 year olds, young black men that are not in education, employment or training, 58 not in education, employment or training. Its a kind of indicator that actually if two thirds of a population of the group are experiencing that sort of level of exclusion, then they are seriously vulnerable towards Mental Health challenges. I mean, youve had stormzy talking about it quite a lot recently, which is great. Yes, thats true. Lorraine khan is an associate director at the centre for Mental Health. Theyve produced a Report Calling for a radical shift in the way the government deals with black and ethnic minorities in Mental Health. I think there is a problem with institutional racism in the way that we take action and try to improve things because this problem doesnt affect the majority of people who live in this country. And i think therefore it becomes a minority issue as far as commissioners are concerned as well. We find that there is not the investment in research to try and improve the programmes that young men and women say that they want because equally theres not that investment, its not considered the priority, and the priority tends to be, all the services tend to be geared towards white people. You know, the impact of day to day experiences of discrimination and racism, what they call micro aggressions in research, you know, what that means is, if you go into a shop you are followed around because somebody thinks you are going to be taking something, or you are seen as a risk by people. Its that experience that we know from research has a wear and tear effect on young men on a day to day basis. And their Stress Levels we know are kind of elevated as a result of that constant onslaught. And its a bit like over revving a car engine. After a while you have a kind of burn out. And what we know happens is in their mid 20s to early 30s is this sort of greater sudden presentation with Crisis Difficulties in terms of Mental Health. With this lady is a Singer Songwriter the nhss most recent National Survey on adult Mental Health found that black people with Mental Health symptoms were less likely to be recognised by Mental Health services. Maitreya is a Singer Songwriter who has battled with Mental Health problems caused by a physical condition she has. She has been sectioned twice in the past few weeks and was diagnosed with psychosis, something she denies. She told me that last year, when she really needed help, she found it difficult to access Mental Health care from the nhs. I found it very difficult because i was actually trying to tell them, ifeel very much suicidal at the moment. How did you try, did you go to the gp . I took myself into hospital. I took myself into a e. I had called ambulances. Ive called samaritans. Ive taken that step. But its like, in trying to call out for help, its like, they didnt see it as a serious kind of thing at a time. And its like, how do you not see that as serious . I was very much in a frantic state. And it did kind of make me feel, because its like, ok, what does it actually takes to get the help you need . At the time you need it . Do you think the experience you went through contributed to what happened recently . I do, because i still dont feel like ive got the help that i needed. But its made mejust lose trust in the Mental Health service because, like i said, when i needed the help, it wasnt there. Now ive gone through a whole process of Being Sectioned, and i need more help to deal with the trauma that ive just gone through but im scared because im like, ok, how will the help come now . If they havent really helped me, like happened to this point . When she was detained, she rejected medication. Ifelt like personally, i did not need the medication they were trying to give me at the time. How i was dealing with it was kind of being more creative, going and singing, doing all the dances and stuff like that. Thats something that helps to kind of keep me up. But because i wasnt kind of going down the traditional kind of road, ifelt people were just like, whats wrong with her . And i was like, theres nothing wrong with me, im just trying to help myself in a very chaotic situation. I didnt get to speak with professionals or doctors as much as i wanted because it is still fresh, a lot of questions, and trying to understand whats happened and what is happening currently. And i saw the doctor on day 21 of the 28 days. And there was no talking, no necessarily therapy, real talking so im like, why was it not possible to speak with somebody about what had been happening to me, trying to make sense of that . And so the First Port Of Call was the drugs, education. And i think in terms of your voice being heard, almost the same way as it was in the police cell, falling on deaf ears. David bradley is a Chief Executive of Springfield Hospital in london. He believes more needs to be done to ensure people are given options other than medication. The first thing weve got to do is make sure Talking Therapies are more available to people so that people can refer themselves in, they can call, get appointments before they are admitted to hospital so this isjust in daily life. We are doing work around that, to make sure people can access that but again providing Talking Therapies in churches, Community Centres and working with local groups to provide that out of hospital but in normal settings. The second bit is about when people are admitted. If they are in hospital, they need to get Talking Therapies on wards as well. We have been looking at how to improve that, make sure people do not feel that the only thing theyve got is medication. Medication is sometimes good for people, it plays a role, it can be incredibly helpful for people, but weve also got to get Talking Therapies improved as well. So as well as black people being more likely to be sectioned than white people, experts say that in Mental Health services they are also more likely to be given medication. I asked donald massey, a psychiatric doctor, whether the nhs had a problem with the perception that black people were more dangerous than other people. There is a problem in perceived dangerousness, but not specific to the nhs. I can think of specific examples, say, of a petite 50 year old white lady on the ward with a serious mental illness, and a 6 foot Something Big black guy with the same mental illness, and both may be calm and may have episodes of irritability or frustration and aggression because they are distressed from the mental illness. But people are more likely to think the black guy is going to do something, is going to hurt them, essentially because there is a cultural idea of black people being the aggressors. So then does the nhs have a problem with perceiving black people as dangerous . My impression is that things are much better than they used to be. The workforce is diverse. We have a better understanding of how different people present and as we try to look at people as individuals, they are less likely to be treated as different, but people have their own prejudices. And while the nhs needs to address it, i think its much more than a Health Service issue, it is a cultural issue. Do you think that you were treated differently because of the way you look . Yeah, the way aggression is perceived, there could be a Subconscious Bias Acting in the professionals. A racial bias . Racial bias, whether conscious or unconscious, is something that could have been a factor in the way i was perceived. When i think about some of that, and some of the other people that i saw in the ward, i look back, im like, you know what, what that person was doing, that was definitely more aggressive than me, in terms of what was happening. But they stayed in that open water. They didnt come into Intensive Care, and even some of the people that i met inside the Intensive Care unit, its very, whats the word, diverse, if we are going to use it in those terms, terms of the demographics. So basically. How race impacts your Mental Health experience, the way you go through the system, how painful a process it is, i think theres definitely more that needs to be done. What needs to change . The whole Mental Health act, which was written 24 years ago, and so much has happened since then. And i think its something that needs to be redone. Its not fit for purpose. The majority of the system is set up for white people. You cant make a claim that the system is, you know, really great in supporting people with Mental Health challenges when they come from black and minority communities, especially african and caribbean communities, when the evidence does not say that. We cant keep talking about this and not doing anything about it. The same problems from 25 years ago, how do we tackle those same problems, instead of doing more research because the issues are the same, also its a case of who is willing, who is serious about this issue to actually get it done . Because if the will was there to actually solve problems, then they could do it. More on this later in the programme really keen to hear from you if youre black and have experiences of the Mental Health system. Three quarters of graduates will neve repay their Student Loans with the poorest facing the biggest debt. Thats according to comprehensive analysis from the Institute For Fiscal Studies. It estimates that students in england will graduate with average debts of £50,800, after Interest Rates are raised on Student Loans to 6. 1 . Lets speak to some students. J simpson, just arrived. 24. Graduated from the University Of East London in 2014 with £28,000 debt. In salford is luke dicks, 21, Second Year Physics Student at manchester uni. In birmingham we have a former cambridge graduate, Vice President of the national stu d e nts Vice President of the National Students union. Jade menu left uni in 2014, how much debt have you got . Roughly 20 8000. What about yourself . About 30,000, although i dont like thinking about it. What will yours be . I should imagine about 50 5000. How do you deal with the £28,000 debt . Mentally i put it to one side. In terms of my salary, that coming out, that is where it is quite a lot of money where i could be saving for a house. Do you mind me asking what you pay back each month . Roughly about £58. Not for hire, but with travel and rent in london, it is quite a lot taken to my salary. That is what you spent on education . I definitely think it is worth it. In terms, im glad i did not come in at the higher fees, i dont know whether my decision would have been affected. Luke, when you start repaying this, when you reach the current fresh older 21,000, that may change as the years go by. How will you approach it . Im not going to worry about it. It is more like tax. Comes out from your employer S Contributions to your salary. I dont think it will affect me day today. You will always have that debt. Not like new debt you have to worry about paying for stuff comes out of your wages every month, exactly the same, depending on what you own. I will be in this situation probably because i want to Physics Research where i will not earn enough to pay it off. They will still not bother me. After 30 years she had not paid the whole thing back, gets written. The filters the right thing that you are paying it compared to general taxpayers . have a brother doing an apprenticeship in general engineering. I dont think it is fairfor him, or engineering. I dont think it is fair for him, or someone like my parents, or someone fair for him, or someone like my parents, or someone who did not go to university to pay for my privilege of having a top quality, world class education. Privilege of having a top quality, worldclass education. Do you agree with the universities minister, jo johnson, effectively this Student Finance System is removing barriers, so people from disadvantaged backgrounds can go to university . completely disagree. As the research came out today, those from disadvantaged backgrounds enter worse off, leaving university with 57,000, over £57,000 of debt. Comes back to the central point, how we look at higher education, is it essential for society to have doctors, engineers, historians, all contributing to society. Should not be seen as something individual gets. The public should be investing in students so they can invest back into society. It is not a luxury, not a business. This is society deciding as a whole to make an investment into young people say that we can return the investment back into society. Why is it that the numbers of 18 year olds from the most disadvantaged areas is going up when it comes to university . 12. 2 of 18 year olds from the most disadvantaged areas apply to university. In 2010 up to 18 . In 2017 it is up to 22 . Well more and more young people are going to universities because they see the opportunities this i am delighted about that. Theyre not been put off by the loan system . What i would say, research said they are more likely to drop out. They are receiving higher debts. Dropout could be for a number of reasons. is saying this because of the debt . There are whole range of reasons why they be. We have to look at whether they be. We have to look at whether they can make ends meet wealthier at university. Because of the move from france to loans we know that Student Finance is a major issue when we speak to students on the reference when im talking to students on the ground they see this as an unfair intergenerational inequality. Lectured by individuals who had a Free Education themselves. Using that education in public service. In other walks of life. They are telling us that we now have a fairer syste m telling us that we now have a fairer system because were now in £57,000 of debt. Viewers around the country will understand it is very difficult argument to make. One which will consistently hurt the government of the ballot box if they do not engage in conversation. Thank you that is the Vice President of the National Union of students. Luke dicks, Second Year Physics Student at manchester university. The latest news and sport in just a moment. Before that there is the weather. Simon good morning. It will turn pretty hot in the southern part of england, lots of sunshine here this morning but you notice from the recent Satellite Picture that more cloud in Southern Scotla nd picture that more cloud in Southern Scotland and across Northern Ireland as well. Most of that cloud will tend to fizzle away about in south east scotland, the far north east of england, it will stay quite grave. Elsewhere, sunny spells. Look at those temperatures across the south, 26 to 29 celsius. A bit fresher further north and west, 14 to 17. They will be a warm end to the day, fairly uncomfortable for some to sleep in the south east. Tomorrow morning we are looking at some really big thunderstorms developing from the south, the midlands, east anglia and the sutherland on. A Fuse Thunderstorms developing across northern parts of england but some sunny spells in between, and they will be hit and miss, those showers. Another hot and humid day across england and wales. A bit more cloud around and some rain in the far north west. Goodbye. It is wednesday, ten oclock, i am Victoria Derbyshire. A task force will be sent in to take over parts of kensington and Chelsea Council in the wake of the Grenfell Tower fire. It comes as new figures show only 14 families have accepted the Temporary Accommodation they have been offered. Most are still living in hotel rooms. It is, i lost flat, i lost five members of my family, im going to lose again. Ive nothing to lose so im staying there. Until they give me a flat. A permanent flat. Well speak to one resident, who says people arent being offered a suitable place to live. Also on the programme, well hear from the sisters of a disabled man who was beaten to death by his neighbour after making 85 calls to the police to report harassment. Reading that report and just coming to terms with what happened to bijan, it was devastating. A report by the independent Police Complaints Commission Says Bijan Ebrahimi was failed by the police over a six year period. And well speak to a woman who was stabbed and left for dead by her stalker in 2013. She had reported him to police 125 times. Good morning. Heresjoanna in the bbc newsroom with a summary of todays news. Victims of harassment and stalking in england and wales are being left at risk because of failings by police and prosecutors, according to an official report. Two watchdogs found that crimes werent being recorded, investigations were poorly conducted and Legal Protection wasnt offered to enough victims. They examined 112 cases in detail and concluded that none had been dealt with well. Officers and prosecutors were identifying cases in isolation, whereas by its very nature, both stalking and harassment occurs as a result of really pernicious and persistent offending. And officers and prosecutors were missing that, which meant that victims were left at risk. And atjust after half past ten this morning, well be hearing more from Wendy Williams and from a woman who was attacked and left for dead by her stalker. The majority of survivors of the Grenfell Tower fire remain in hotels, despite todays deadline set by the Prime Minister for everybody affected to be found a home nearby. So far, 139 offers of accomodation have been made, but only 14 have been accepted. Meanwhile survivors have expressed their frustration with a lack of information during a meeting with the police and the westminster coroner. A Senior Officer was asked why there havent been any arrests, while the coroner reportedly described the scene inside the building as apocalyptic. Cherboonee salah lived on the ninth floor of g Re Nfell Tower with his wife and two children. Theyre currently staying in a hotel and he told victoria why he had refused temporary offers of accommodation. I dont want to move. Im already in Temporary Accommodation. Why do i need to move again . What is it like living in the hotel with your family . Uh. Likea hell. I dont have no more life. Im stuck in the four corners of the hotel. Avon and Somerset Police have admitted they repeatedly failed a disabled refugee who was beaten to death in bristol four years ago. A report by the Police Watchdog says officers responded poorly when Bijan Ebrahimi asked for help in the years before he was murdered. The force says its made changes and has apologised to his family. If you are getting in touch, you are very welcome as always. Message as on twitter. The latest sport. Tim is back. Andy murray takes on Germanys Dustin Brown at wimbledon this afternoon and brown is one of tenniss real characters. As you can see behind me. He used to sleep in a campervan, hasnt cut his dreadlocked hair for nearly 20 years, is known as the germaican back home in germany, and is a really talented player too. In yesterdays action, there was a bit of controversy about players pulling out of their first round matches and the fact they earn £35,000 even if theyre injured. Martin klizan played for only 40 minutes against Novak Djokovic before retiring with a calf problem. And Roger Federers match didnt last much longer either, as Alexander Dolgopolov was forced off with an ankle injury. Federer and djokovic believe it could be time to change the rules. The question is always sure they have started the match at all, and that only the player can answer, really, in my opinion, and you hope that they would give up their spot for somebody else. Wimbledon has probably been the strongest of any other tournament, especially if you walk out in the centre court, There Isa Walk Out in the centre court, there is a responsibility. I am sure they tried their best but it is what it is. Well, that wasnt the only point of controversy yesterday, as australian Bernard Tomic said he lacked motivation and was bored during his straight sets defeat to mischa zverev. Tomic, who was world number 17 only last year, lost in just over an hour, and also admitted to using a medical time out to slow down the match, which could earn him a fine. Didnt slow it down that much, did he, only one hour 17 minutes. There was better news for britons kyle edmund, though. Hed lost in the first round for the last four years, but is into round two after beating fellow brit alex ward, whos ranked 869th in the world after a series of injuries. And the womens world number one Angelique Kerber is also through, after beating irina falconi. Kerber has been out of form recently, but said memories of last years final against Serena Williams motivated her. Away from the tennis, Mark Cavendish is out of the Tour De France, because of a crash at the end of yesterdays fourth stage. World champion peter sagan was disqualified for elbowing cavendish, although his team have appealed against the decision. The briton broke his shoulder and needed stitches in his hand. Rangers are recovering this morning from perhaps the worst defeat in their history. They were knocked out of the Europa League by a part time team from luxembourg, losing 2 0 last night, 2 1 on aggregate. Rangers manager Pedro Caixinha has said he assumes all the responsibility. That is also sport for now. Coming up that is also sport for now. Coming up to ten past ten. Its three weeks since the fire at Grenfell Tower in North Kensington, which killed at least 80 people and left hundreds without a home. On this programme exactly a week ago, the Housing Minister made it very clear that temporary homes would be offered to everyone affected by today. Today, were back here in North Kensington to catch up with some of those we first met on that wednesday to bring you more remarkable stories of those who escaped, and to find out how people are doing. Were still displaced. We still have missing people. We still have no answers. Were constantly expected to chase things, go here, phone this, queue here, do that. Its no surprise to me at all that you have an empty chair there. Having worked on the council for 11 years, the depth of incompetence is absolutely mind boggling. Youll notice that weve a couple of chairs here now, empty chairs. This is a photograph of the leader of Kensington And Chelsea borough council, thats nick paget brown. So im asking you respectfully, check your moral compass. Check it. And forget your label of mp. Human. Yes. What does a human basically need . Then you will go forward. Then you will gain the respect and understanding of these people. 0k. Applause. What i need to know, people are struggling to get their own place. Why . I dont want money. Were not looking for money. And the problem that we have is that we now know there is a price tag on the value of peoples lives. The Housing Minister, im told, is here. His name is alok sharma and he has agreed to be with us today after pressure from residents. So i know you have questions for him. I think hes here. Alok sharma, hello. Hi, im victoria. Take a seat. Thank you very much for giving us your time today. Why is it ok that there are thousands of empty homes right in this area, and these people are homeless . I was happy in my house. I work hard. I had a good house. Im not going to accept it. Olu does not want Temporary Accommodation, he wants permanent accommodation, he wants good permanent accommodation. That is not too much to ask. Can you promise him that . Victoria, so what we have said is. Just say yes or no. Exactly. You create hell. You created it to save money, to keep money in your pocket, for these people to be poor. You meant it to be like that. You meant it. Can you please be specific as to what package you are offering in terms of housing or rehousing the residents back into this borough. And be specific, please, without the flowery words. Can we just get him to speak . Otherwise, theres no commitment. Let him do that. Let the minister speak, hear what he is committing to. Please let us know what your commitment is. So what weve committed to is, is anyone whose home has been destroyed, will be housed by next wednesday in, good accommodation, and then we will work with, and in housing that is acceptable to them. So what we are not going to do is, you are offered a home, you dont like it and youre still asked to go in, that is not going to happen. So has that happened . Well, of 158 families affected, 139 have been offered temporary homes but only 14 have accepted, with most others still living in hotel rooms. A leaked government letter seen by this programme suggests some are worried that if they take up the offer, it mightjeopardise their chances of getting a new luxury flat in the heart of kensington. We have also learned today that a task force will be sent in to take over parts of chelsea and Kensington Council in the wake of the fire. We can speak to Eleanor Kelly from the governmetns grenfell Response Team, which was set up to coordinate relief efforts. Ina in a moment we will also talk to the conservative mp Kevin Hollinrake whos on the communities and Government Select Committee until recently. Shelter have over 20 people on the ground trent help people on the ground trent help people with accommodation and a resident who fled the 15th floor of the tower block for his wife and rob walter. Sid was on our programme a week ago his wife and daughter. First Eleanor Kelly from the g re nfell first Eleanor Kelly from the grenfell Response Team. What do you think of the fact that only 14 of the families have accepted the offer is of Temporary Accommodation . the families have accepted the offer is of Temporary Accommodation . I am not surprised at all because the vast majority of the families are simply not ready to make what they see as long term decisions about where theirfamilies see as long term decisions about where their families should go. They are also in a position where they are also in a position where they are seriously considering they should stay where they are in order to make one move into permanent accommodation. You have to realise the impact on this families, the trauma they have been through, and the fact that they do need to sort of like take a step back and takes time to decide what would be the right move for them. We spoke to one dad earlier who described his hotel room as hell because of the size of it, and there are four in there, and he said he would rather stay in hell for months and wait for something permanent to be offered than move into Temporary Accommodation now and have to move again potentially into permanent accommodation. have to move again potentially into permanent accommodation. I think you have to appreciate how people feel who have lost everything. Sitting down and moving somewhere else temporarily will, that is something they dont want to put their family through. So you can understand why someone through. So you can understand why someone would want to stay in Hotel Accommodation and only make that one permanent move. The first set of 68 permanent move. The first set of 68 permanent properties in kensington will come on stream at the end of this month. The council and the government and the multi agency teams are working very hard on identifying the next set of permanent Kensington And Chelsea homes because most people want to be in Kensington And Chelsea. With those of the new build flats. 68 come on stream at the end of the month. Can a Family Moving . The Allocations Policy has been agreed and independently verified. We will work our way through which of the 158 families and households are best matched in terms of their Housing Needs to those properties. Are you saying people will be able to move in at the beginning of the month . Properties are due to be available to occupy at the end of the month. Once the 68 families are allocated to those 60 properties, people are working inside the council, the garment and the Response Team to identify further flats like that that can come on stream. Other properties under construction. Under construction . 68 properties under construction. Those are virtually completed. We have identified just under 100 Vacant Properties in Kensington And Chelsea offered to the families. On the basis of either temporary, or most cases permanent occupation. Many of the 14 have accepted the temporary move will be considered whether the properties they are accepted are acceptable for them for permanent positions this once the 68 have been allocated, that leaves dozens of families awaiting permanent accommodation. How many months might they be living in hotel rooms . Untilthe permanent housing is offered . In hotel rooms . Untilthe permanent housing is offered . The issue as to how long it takes relies on each individualfamily, how long it takes relies on each individual family, circumstances, views and feelings in relation to where they want and need to what sort of accommodation they are prepared to accept. How they feel about different types of accommodation. You know the majority wa nt to accommodation. You know the majority want to be in the same borough. There are much more complete case of factors, some people think they want to be ina factors, some people think they want to be in a particular location katie c property and application deciding they dont want to be there at all. It is about how they feel, particularly when they can view the properties we know that the vast majority of families want to be in Kensington And Chelsea. Many of the properties we are showing them as Temporary Accommodation in westminster are rejected unseen. That is because location is extremely important to people. He comes down to choice, and each of these families needs to be supportive in making the choice as to where they will make their permanent accommodation. He could be months . Pic of the manse, and that of individual choice for each family whether to stay in Hotel Accommodation or make the temporary move. The Temporary Accommodation offices high quality and matched to their Housing Needs. Thank you for talking to us to do. Joint leader of the Grenfell Tower Response Team. I had taken can hear me ok. Explain to our audience what you had been offered, and what you have decided to do about that. We were offered something close to edgware road. In the westminster father. He was not compatible regarding my Housing Assessment. I think personally people feeling that the Housing Assessment applications, they have been taking so long. Offering houses, we all know we arent difficult situation. They say they are giving houses suitable for the family. The action on the ground is not matching. The procedure, this is my argument. Why are you not following the procedure which has been taken with the family. The Application Assessment from the Housing Assessment, taking personally with me. My family need. And demand, we are entitled to that. This is what we are asking for. Why they are offering me something not suitable for me and my family . This is the problem. Offered to the other family. Why have a offering people, something which is not suitable for disabled person, why . Can i ask how long you are prepared to live in a hotel room with your wife and daughter until permanent suitable permanent accommodation is offered . I will not. I will not go to temporary housing for other not accept temporary housing. You are prepared to live in that hotel as long as it takes . To be honest with you, personally with my family, were not going nowhere. The bbc has spoken to your daughter. We will play a clip of that. What she says about housing. I have nightmares about, if it happens again, if i wake up and i see fire in the building. Most of the people in my building, they were very close to me and they were like family. And seeing them go wasnt. Wasnt good. You are brave, youre so brave. I want to ask if your daughter, wife, happy being offered counselling . No. You have not . We have been asked you need to need to talk to someone. Which kind of question you give to people like that in this situation. Which kind of question are you giving that . Asking people, do you need to talk to someone . Lycoming afar, having some drinks. I am crying about my disaster, do you need to talk to someone . What is going on christmas . Someone . What is going on they disaster, do you need to talk to someone . What is going on they need to send people from the hotel to check on people. Any of the leaders visiting the family . No one. Everyone is busy with the money, the housing. What is going on christmas where is the humanity and heart. Do you need to talk to someone . That kind of question is not acceptable at all. You need to go to the hotel, approach these people kindly, sensitively. Open your arms, approach these people kindly, sensitively. Open yourarms, hugged him, im here foryou. Find a cure, supportive. Not asking them on the street, do you need to talk to someone, street, do you need to talk to someone, darling . What is going on christmas what kind of Housing Assessment are they taking. I am sorry. Thank you very much for your time, said. We will keep following the story. I bring ibring in i bring in a government mp. A deep of the mistrust and resentment among survivors, despite what has happened amongst the Grenfell Tower Response Team. Definitely, ivisited some amongst the Grenfell Tower Response Team. Definitely, i visited some of the local residents in their homes. I quite understand the situation. We can never totally put ourselves in the place of these people, what has happened to them. I can understand the lack of trust, there are competing pressures, wanting to act quickly, wanting to work with the residents to make sure we fully understand what they are going through. What they have is their needs, the ability to be involved in the process. So we can help them to make the right choices. Should be about their choice, not what we want to impose on everybody. We have to make sure we bring the people of g Re Nfell Tower make sure we bring the people of Grenfell Tower with us. Very disappointing that the assessments are correct. That is supported not fancy. We need a new heaven and earth to make sure the support is there. You will know versace jacket, there. You will know versace jacket, the Communities Secretary is bringing in xml task force to take over parts of the running of kensington and Chelsea Council. Is that the same is outside commissioners, which is what the Labour London mayor was calling for. Not quite the same, but we understand this is a National Disaster and needs a national response. We need to bring whatever support we can in. Expertise in counselling from disaster response. In terms of relocation, helping people to be relocated in suitable accommodation. They should not be about money, it should be about them finding suitable accommodation that is permanent. You have representatives on the ground what are you hearing . We cannot underestimate how much trust is broken down, how much confusion that is. All the decisions people are making out because of the backdrop. One of the reasons people have not accepted offers, partly because theyre not suitable. People being offered accommodation out of the area, without adequate washing facilities. Big issues about people not feeling safe for obvious and understandable reasons. Issues about it not been suitable. There is also a level of mistrust, since day one people have a completely understandable fear they will be out of sight and out of mind, people do not believe that if they accept Temporary Accommodation the council will remember them Temporary Accommodation the council will rememberthem and Temporary Accommodation the council will remember them and give them permanent social housing. Which is what people need in order to rebuild their lives. What were heard from their lives. What were heard from the task force, they are trying to do this in a sympathetic way, to listen to people . Needs. We are finding that people are still not ready to engage reverse. They are grieving, burying relatives, dealing with the trauma. Within that context, asking people to date, can you move house . Context, asking people to date, can you move house . Difficult in normal times. When you consider the depth of the trauma some of them are experiencing. Still seeing people who cannot talk, asking them to make big decisions. We need to macca ambitions, to be resolute about the need to rehouse people permanently, well and quickly. We need to be absolutely sensitive to peoples own needs. Still to come in the last half hour, stabbed and left for dead, we hear from a woman attacked by a stalker she had repeatedly reported to the police. A disabled man who was beaten to death by his neighbour in bristol was failed by police over a six year period according to a report from the independent Police Complaints commission. Bijan ebrahimi, a refugee born in iran, made 85 calls to the police the last one an hour before his murder. An ipcc investigation into his death has found that the avon and Somerset Constabulary systematically failed to protect him not recording more than half of the 73 alleged crimes he reported. The investigation found that he was disbelieved considered to be a liar, a nuisance and an Attention Seeker that he was often treated as the perpetrator of crimes rather than the victim. Last night our Correspondentjon Kay spoke to his two sisters Manisha Moores and Mojgan Khayatian who said that they had to push the ipcc to deepen its investigation. He was always the police, he was thinking it is their duty to care for him and protect him, so he didnt think its up to us, or maybe should have let us know. But by reading this report itjust shows what a terrible life hed had during those last few years. I should say that this investigation, it was just down to us pushing the ipcc to go further than just those three days. We knew that there was something more that needed to be looked at. And it was our push for the ipcc to go through the last few years beyond those three days. One thing the report makes clear is that even after he had been ignored so that even after he had been ignored so many times, he still had faith in the police the trust of the police, write to tell the end, to save him, to help them, and yet that didnt happen. Well, he never gave up. Well he never gave up, he always thought that he is in a country, the police is there to protect people, and he could not see anything beyond that. As you said, how many times they didnt listen to him he always went back to them seeking help from them. And it is so devastating to see how they failed him. Do you think the report goes far enough . I think the ipcc, as ive mentioned, theyve done the entire investigation, and i think the depth of it, it was quite satisfying for us. The failure of the agency and police was quite obvious. And i would say, the police and the investigation, we are quite happy. And not only that, the points theyve taken on board, and the meetings weve got with them, from time to time, it shows they have taken the lessons on board and they are doing something. But we havent even started with the council. They havent shown any action or any investigation at all. This is bristol city council, you are still waiting for the official report into the handling of bijans case to be published. Absolutely. And we are talking about four years time. It wasjuly 2013, and we still havent seen anything whatsoever. Two avon and Somerset Police officers were jailed last year for misconduct over their dealings with mr ebrahimi. They and two others were also dismissed from the force. Tony murphy is in bristol hes the family solicitor. Why do you think, mr murphy, that Bijan Ebrahimi was ignored semitones . The family are ignored so semitones . The family are ignored so many times. The family are clear that what lies at the heart of this is institutional racism, and it has been devastating to read the report, and worse that Police Actively couudedin and worse that Police Actively colluded in that racism by blaming the victim, rather than apprehending the victim, rather than apprehending the perpetrators over six long yea rs. The perpetrators over six long years. How shocked by you at the breadth and depth of the failings at every level . Well, the criticisms are unprecedented, in my experience, not least the institutional systemic nature of them, and the institutional racism at the core of it is obviously deeply concerning, across the country. And is the family satisfied with what has happened to the officers concerned, and the changes that the force have made sense . The family feel that the ipcc have done justice to this, and it is important that the chief co nsta ble it is important that the Chief Constable has acknowledged the failings and taken responsibility. It is also understood that he is to implement a programme of systemic change. The familys real concern is that the other agency who were responsible for not protecting bijan during that time, bristol city council, have not been brought to justice, and they are calling for the mayor to make a statement accepting responsibility for the councils failing to protect bijan, and to meet with the family in order to dojustice to and to meet with the family in order to do justice to bijan and four otherfamilies. The latest news headlines. The Housing Department and other departments will be run by an outside organisation. Most of the families who lost their homes are still living in hotels, despite government pledges to rehouse them all by today. Victims of harassment and stalking in england and wales are being left at risk because of failings by police and prosecutors, according to an official report. Two watchdogs found that crimes werent being recorded, investigations were poorly conducted and Legal Protection wasnt offered to enough victims. They examined 112 cases in detail and concluded that none had been dealt with well. The report by the Institute For Fiscal Studies says ms graduates we re we fiscal studies says ms graduates were we paying off Student Loans into their 50s and three quarters will never clear the debt. The government says those from poorer backgrounds are now going to university at a record rate, up 43 since 2009. Join me for bbc Newsroom Live at 11am. This e mailfrom this e mail from julie, she was stalked, we will talk about stalking in the next few minutes, she says harassment is never dealt with until something dreadful happens. As already mentioned, individual incidents are dismissed as trivial, yet when the sum of individual incidents are looked at, the massive negative impact on the target is huge, and the risk can be unbearable. I have been stalked by a quy unbearable. I have been stalked by a guy in my gym previously and the police would do nothing. My life was made miserable by him making threats to me On Social Media and turning up the venues i was at. We will talk more about that and the damning report on the way the police deal with Stalking Incidents which is out today, in the next few minutes. Here is the sport with tim. And exciting match on day three at wimbledon as andy murray takes on the unpredictable dustin brown of germany this afternoon. Then yesterdays action, there was a bit of controversy about players pulling out of their first round matches the fa ct out of their first round matches the fact they earn £35,000, even if they are injured. Martin klizan played for only 40 minutes against Novak Djokovic, before retiring with a ca lf djokovic, before retiring with a calf problem. Roger federers opponent pulled out as well. Alexandr dolgopolov retiring with an ankle injury. The seven time champion and djokovic later said they feel it is time to change the rules and give players who are fully healthy a chance instead. Away from the tennis, Mark Cavendish is out of the tennis, Mark Cavendish is out of the Tour De France after a crash at the Tour De France after a crash at the end of yesterdays for stage. The briton broke his shoulder and needed stitches after appearing to be although dubai World Championships aside and, who was subsequently discovered but is appealing that decision. Rangers are recovering this morning from perhaps the worst defeat in their history. They were knocked out of the Europa League by a part time team from luxembourg, losing 2 0 last night, 2 1 on aggregate. Rangers manager Pedro Caixinha has said he assumes all the responsibility. Victims of harassment and stalking are being left at risk because of failings by police and prosecutors in england and wales. Reports by The Inspectorate Of Constabulary and the Crown Prosecution Service inspectorate say that too often crimes arent being reported, too many investigations are poorly run and victims failed to Legal Protection. 112 cases were examined and not a single one was found to have been dealt with well. They found compelling Evidence Police were giving written warnings to offenders rather than carrying out thorough investigations. We can speak now to helen pearson. She was stabbed and left for dead by her stalker in 2013. Helen had reported the attacker, who was her neighbour, to police 125 times over a period of five years. Wendy williams is also here she led the investigation for her majestys inspectorate of constabulary, and Laura Richards is director of paladin, six the National Stalking Advocacy service. Helen, when you made some of those 125 complaints to the police, what sort of response did you get . a lwa ys sort of response did you get . always felt like i wasnt being believed or taken seriously. Everything was very slow, and very reactive, after the event, rather than proactive. If you had a letter it would get sent off Finger Prints, it would get sent off Finger Prints, it would get sent off Finger Prints, it would take ages before you heard back and there would be no fingerprints, which obviously there wouldnt be, because he would have worn gloves. And itjust felt like it was a constant sort of trip, drip tap, and that the police were not taking it seriously. They literally didnt want to know, that i was a nuisance. What kind of things was your neighbour doing, you mention those letters, what else . It started off lower key things, like gunge up door lock, the letters, phone calls, and then it moved to bricks through your window, car tyres being slashed, following me out where i went, so if i parked my car, went for a little walk, and then i would not be offered to drive my car back home. That is obviously criminal damage. I am home. That is obviously criminal damage. Iam not home. That is obviously criminal damage. I am not a home. That is obviously criminal damage. Iam not a police home. That is obviously criminal damage. I am not a police officer, slightly more simple to investigate fan who wrote a letter with no Finger Prints on it, i dont know . Well, it would get crime that, and i remember every time i would going in for a crime, remember every time i would going in fora crime, i remember every time i would going in for a crime, i would say please link this under the master crime di easier though 96672, and they never did. They treated each one as a separate case. And even somewhere, ifi separate case. And even somewhere, if i was parked, i had been away further from if i was parked, i had been away furtherfrom home, if i was parked, i had been away further from home, they if i was parked, i had been away furtherfrom home, they would not even deem it as being linked to the stalking case, because it was so far from home, but of course we knew it was, because after that, for an example, a time when the car window was smashed, out at a place i had been, the sent a letter referring to the place i had been on the date i went taking that walk. I felt like there were just so many missed opportunities, there were so many times so much could have been done, and wasnt. Let me bring in wendy and wasnt. Let me bring in wendy and laura, if i may. In terms of the evaluation you have done of these 112 stalking cases, how is it possible that not one was investigated properly . We did look at 100 fold cases in quite some depth. We also looked at cases across all 43 of the forces, but these cases were looked at in detail, and, as you said, not one of them was prepared and dealt with in accordance with expectations. And there was one in particular, which involved a person who was confronted in his home by a perpetrator who wasnt happy because the individual wasnt happy because the individual was having a friendship with this persons former partner. And what happened there was that he subsequently subjected this person toa campaign subsequently subjected this person to a campaign of threats and abuse on his phone, On Social Media, and the individual, the abuse was so bad, that the individual moved home. He wasnt supported in the case, and ultimately the perpetrator was acquitted, and he subsequently found out that the police have not analysed the individuals computing, which would have strengthened the case. And sadly this was representative of what we were finding. And from your enquiries, what explanations did you come across as to why these cases were not being dealt with properly . Well, as helen has indicated, all too often officers were dealing with cases in isolation. They werent looking at the totality of the offending, and as we have heard, this sort of behaviour, by its nature, it is persistent, it is systematic, it is also repetitive. And it is only by capturing those repeat occasions that the full extent and seriousness of the case can be appreciated, investigated, properly prosecuted and victims can be properly served. Laura, you were an adviser to the all Party Parliamentary enquiry back in 2012. When you hear when they discuss what she has the scuffet, how do you react . Well, i feel pretty angry about this, having drafted the law, and we worked with trisha purnell, whose daughter was stalked and murdered in harvey nicholls, will change as part of cultural change. Explain the law change now that was supposed to help. Two new laws of stalking were made, we met the david cameron, we drafted the law, we requested specialist led training and we felt this would signal how serious stalking was. However, for years on, yes, i have Set Up Paladin andl years on, yes, i have Set Up Paladin and i have a team of amazing caseworkers, they are all specialists, we have assisted all over 2000 victims but the rest of the terrain has not changed. There has been very little leadership. People dont know the stalking law exists. People are being told it is trippier, there is no law, victims are being dismissed, given fixed Penalty Notices, this is familiar. Sian obrien was given a fixed Penalty Notice and a summary had checked the intelligence database that would have seemed he had stalked 13 girls before herbert the issued her with a fixed Penalty Notice and she was killed. Another girl was killed in northumbria, the same story in october, we just had Molly Mclaren killed. I have been analysing and counting dead women for many years now. We have about 85 cases either by the independent Police Commission having reviewed them, the same patterns repeat. They say we are sorry, like they did to helen, but none of these lessons are learned and then the next thing happens. They are not putting any of this knowledge around Risk Assessment into practice. The women you have just talked about, your stalker, your neighbour, it started off low level but it grew and built a new ultimately nearly lost your life because he attacked you. Yes, but you could see it escalating, and you felt like he was screaming with your mouth shut, because nobody heard. They did not take it seriously. You could see it escalating. It went from a dead cat put on your door, and it built up and up and down. He sent a letter threatening to attack me. It haunts my mind. I read the words in my head all the time, what will i do when i attack you, will you fight, will you scream, let the game begin . 0h attack you, will you fight, will you scream, let the game begin . Oh god. You have that come in you then have the dead cat on your door, you are waiting for it, you dont know when it is going to happen, how it will happen, but you know it is going to. And it was literally waiting. Mir we call these cases murder in the low motion because it isjust call these cases murder in the low motion because it is just as galette. Having created a Risk Assessment for the police to be used from we want people to be trained, specialist led, we want there to be. We are still hearing from victims in devon and cornwall, still hearing there is no training, still victims are being dismissed and turned away. We are fed up with lessons to be learned and sorry, that doesnt carry any currency any more. It is about action and that is why we welcome the report, because there needs to be clear leadership, people needs to be clear leadership, people need to be held to account and this has to be about change that lasts. Pop this thank you very much. This morning weve been asking if black people are being failed by the Mental Health system because of institutional racism . Black men are 17 times more likely than white men to be diagnosed with a serious Mental Health condition such as schizophrenia. The think tank the centre for Mental Health says its an issue which needs to be tackled. Our reporter isaac fanin has been speaking to people about their experiences of Mental Health. My name is eche and ive been sectioned once under the Mental Health act. I was expecting to go to the hospital but in actual fact they took me to the Police Station or police cell. Being placed in those four walls was one of the most damaging things they could have done in that State Of Mind i was in. There was a knock on the door. Its the police once again. And im in my room and im like, you know what, this time im not going. The first time i was compliant and so they were like, section two, 28 days, you have to go back there. Physically they tried to get me down. That didnt work so they brought the taser out, 50,000 volts and before i know it im back in handcuffs. Back in hospital, to remove the taser hook, and then before you know it back in the ward. Those experiences with the police and the taser made me more resistant and more distrusting of the system in general, as it felt like a prisonlike experience. Ifeel like a criminal. I dont have my freedom any more. How do you know want me to engage with this system . I didnt really get to speak with professionals doctors as much as i wanted because it is still fresh, i have a lot of questions, and trying to understand what has happened and what is happening currently and i saw the doctor on day 21. Of the 28 days. And there was talking, not necessarily therapy, just real talking. So im like, why was it not possible to speak with somebody about what had been happening and try to make sense of that . So the First Port Of Call was the drugs, the medication. And i think in terms of your voice being heard, its almost the same way as it was in the police cell. Falling on deaf ears, the way aggression is perceived, there could be a Subconscious Bias Acting in the professionals. A racial bias . Racial bias, whether conscious or unconscious, is something that could have been a factor in the way i was perceived. When i think about that and some of the other people that i saw in the ward, i look back, im like, you know what, what that person was doing, that was definitely more aggressive than me in terms of what was happening but they stayed in that open ward, they didnt come into Intensive Care, and then even some of the people that i met inside the Intensive Care unit was very, whats the word, diverse if we are going to use it in terms of the demographics. Basically. So how race impacts your Mental Health experience, the way you go to the system, how painful process it is, think theres definitely something that needs to be done. What needs to change . The whole Mental Health act which was written 24 years ago. And so much has happened since then. And i think its something that needs to be redone. And is not fit for purpose. Now we can speak to marcia brock who claims she has been wrongly sectioned several times, maitreya who doesnt want us to use her surname she says shes found it difficult to get the Mental Health help she needs, and andy bell from the centre for Mental Health which published todays report. We viewing just moment, but you have been sectioned four times. You have cerebrally this, which can sometimes present itself as a psychosis. Obviously relevant to Being Sectioned. That is correct. I was initially sectioned in 2007, this is the pattern every two, three years since then. What i can say, being wrongly sectioned, i would get an apology. A red flag, should have lupus written on the notes. Sometimes it does not present in the blood, but it presents face to face. More than a conversation rather than a blood test. Do you think you would not have been sectioned if you have so not have been sectioned if you have so very religious and wear white . dont know any of the others who have been sectioned. They all happen to be right. In our group at University College london. What do you think . Seems to be a huge factor. Cant say i know any of the other women or men with cerebrally this you are of black percent. Trying to get access to Mental Health services, give a little insight . I have previously tried to get in contact with Mental Health services, previously i was also wrongly sectioned. The times when i was trying to get help, they did not see me as vulnerable. But they decided to take action, ijust find it quite confusing this is that because you are black . it quite confusing this is that because you are black . I think so, my colours as pay apart. Mainly because naturally we are expressive, much more expressive as a people. We have a bit more animated. They dont really understand that perspective. In terms of the Mental Health service. They are trained professionals . Service. They are trained professionals . This is what im saying, the perspective of professional. In a test that can determine this person has this, as the first based on the opinion of the first based on the opinion of the professional fools whether or not they are trained professional, committees based the perspective. Let me bring in andy bell. Tell our audience would you fan . Weaver looking at what it is that affects Young African and caribbean men at age 11 have as good Mental Health is anyone else in uk. Yet by the time they reach their early 20s, we have seen they reach their early 20s, we have seen the terrible statistics and the awful stories of what happens to some people. We have been looking at why that is. Trying to understand from this perspective of young black men why Mental Health worsens during that period of time. Seems to be about the attritional wear and tear effects of racism in all parts of society. In all of their experiences of growing up in britain this mean really need to see a focus on earlier helped to make sure were preventing problems wherever possible. Just so i am clear, you are saying the attritional effects of racism directed towards in particular young black boys when growing up leads to a Mental Health problems in their 20s . It is what the young people were described to us. The young people were described to us. There is research that says this can be effective to having poor Mental Health. Does not necessarily lead to Mental Health illness. It does have an effect on somebodys well being, that can be a Journey Towards poor Mental Health. What others have said is that the early health is not there. There is a real fear between african and caribbean communities and Mental Health services. We reported on that as long back as 2002. We need to see closer engagement between the nhs and local communities and groups working together to find solutions. What has to change . The dialogues between, because i dont know if yourself, i have the police and far. The police and the hospital, the way they work. If they have a unit of they work. If they have a unit of the Mental Health team. You are most likely to get sectioned if you are from that area. Once im out of the area, ifind from that area. Once im out of the area, i find i from that area. Once im out of the area, ifind i get from that area. Once im out of the area, i find i get normalised hospital treatment. Seems to be the location. If they have a Mental Health unit team intact, they seem to directly processes into that. They may apologise 72 hours later, and discharges. Whilst they do have the hospital and Mental Health unit attached, seems to be a straight process. No real understanding. Dealing with you like hospital. What would you say needs to change . ee, would you say needs to change . agree, not much dialogue, not much clarity in the processes taken from happening. I was not aware i was Being Sectioned until a few days after i was sectioned. Did not get any clarity from any doctors. Like people have already gone off, made a decision as to what was going to ta ke decision as to what was going to take place. Not much dialogue with me, the patient. Also with the other services, as well. I was taken in by police. Someone should have been able to see. Thank you for coming on the programme. A department for Health Spokesperson told us we want to make sure everyone regardless of ethnicity, background and asia gets the Mental Health treatment they need. We have a statement from the met police on Grenfell Tower, the search and recovery operation inside g Re Nfell Tower search and recovery operation inside Grenfell Tower will not be complete until the end of 2017. Thatjust in from the metropolitan police. On monday they say we forensically recover the loss of the human remains from the tower transferring into the westminster mortuary. We have made 87 recoveries. More on bbc and newsroom life. The morning temperatures already heading towards the 20s in southern parts of england. Lots of sunshine this morning, sunshine across southern areas. Further north, more clout across northern england, Southern Scotla nd across northern england, Southern Scotland and Northern Ireland as well this eclair will gradually disappear. Perhaps north east of england, south east scotland, cloud well into the afternoon. Temperatures around 14 17d. In the south, sunshine, temperatures really shooting up, 25, perhaps 29 degrees. A warm evening. Could be uncomfortable for sleeping for some in the south east is beginning to thursday morning. With that, some heavy and thundery showers moving in across central and southern england. The south east, up until east anglia. Sunshine which could turn thundery later in the day. Hot and humid, not quite as hot further north or west. This is bbc news and these are the top stories developing at 11. A taskforce will take over key kensington and Chelsea Council services, as grenfell survivors express their frustration at plans for future housing and the search for missing relatives. Do whatever it is, we want to know exactly what it is. It doesnt feel like home. I miss my room. My daughter, shes losing her focus, because its not her place. A report finds police repeatedly failed a disabled refugee who sought their help before he was murdered in bristol four years ago. The United States and south korea jointly warn north korea that war cannot be ruled out, following pyongyangs missile test