Transcripts For BBCNEWS Victoria Derbyshire 20170822

And yet despite this the Marijuana Industry is still booming. So is it time for a drastic rethink . This is the situation in portugal. Weve been to two European Countries with very different approaches to drugs controls. Bake off is back almost. The baking favourite returns to our screens next week with new faces and on a new channel, of course. So will it rise to the occasion . We have had a sneak peek. Hello, welcome to the programme, were live until 11 this morning. Also if you think the bake off pun was bad, dont worry we have much better in store, as we will be talking to the winner of the award for the bestjoke at the Edinburgh Fringe this year. Do get in touch on all the stories were talking about this morning use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the Standard Network rate. President trump said hed changed his mind about withdrawing troops from afghanistan last night in a major speech. The man who always said he didnt want to intervene abroad came to announce the intervention in afghanistan is going to ratchet up. He said it was for the right reasons. We area we are a partner and a friend but will not dictate to the Afghan People how to live or govern their own complex society. We are not nation building again. We are killing terrorists. He announced the lifting of a cap on the number of us troops in afghanistan, and that there would be no time limit on them staying there. My original instinct was to pull out, and historically, i like following my instincts. But all my life, ive heard that decisions are much different when you sit behind the desk in the oval office. A very different donald trump to the one who said this kind of thing right through the obama years. And that is the basis on which he campaigned as a president ial candidate, that he wouldnt spend American Resources abroad, but here at home. He says he now realises that pulling out american troops from afghanistan would leave a vacuum for militants. Our primary mission after 9 11 was to kill terrorists and i think hes going back to that original purpose that the reason we came into afghanistan was because of what happened on 9 1 and the fact that afghanistan was being used as sanctuary and safe haven for terrorists. The toughest words of his speech were directed at pakistan, afg hanistans neighbour. We have been paying pakistan billions and billions of dollars. At the same time, theyre housing the very terrorists that we are fighting. But that will have to change and that will change immediately. How the president expects pakistan to comply and more broadly how he believes the us will, in his words, fight to win in afghanistan, wasnt made entirely clear. The only thing that is certain is that theres still no end in sight for americas longest war. Aleem maqbool, bbc news in washington. Our correspondent gave us the latest from kabul. The response will be given to President Trumps announcement. Ive been speaking to the former head of the after began army and he told me he very much welcomed what donald trump had to say, the after began Foreign Ministers also taken to twitter to say he welcomes it. As you say, security has been steadily deteriorating in afghanistan. Last year it saw nearly 3,500 civilians die asa year it saw nearly 3,500 civilians die as a result of the violence. So there had been concern here that if america were to make a complete withdrawal from the country, then that could boost the taliban; instead President Trump seems to be quite clear he doesnt want to see the taliban take over afghanistan. At the same time, he says he believes eventually some form of political settlement with the taliban will be necessary in order to bring about peace and thats actually pretty much the position of the Afghan Government here. So overall, things are being very much welcomed in afghanistan. Well talk more about that shortly. Let us know your thoughts and the usual ways of getting in touch. Matthew is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the days news. At least two people have died and more than 30 injured after an earthquake on the italian island of ischia. Residents and tourists ran into the streets as buildings collapsed; the quake hitjust before nine oclock yesterday evening. Mark lobel reports. The earthquake struckjust as local families and tourists on the Holiday Island sat down for dinner. Houses were flattened. People were evacuated from buildings, including the local hospital. One woman was killed when rubble fell from a church. At least 20 other people were injured. Ischia is an hours ferry ride from naples and lies about seven miles from the epicentre of the earthquake. The islands northern town of casamicciola was the worst hit. In the village, firemen located a baby trap beneath the rubble. A baby trapped beneath the rubble. After a delicate operation, a welcome sound. Baby crying. Some firemen were already on the island to deal with wildfires. 0thers flew in. Italys beautiful islands are a draw for visitors, but unfortunately in an area prone to seismic activity, they can often cost lives. After this latest earthquake, one resident said it looked like a bomb had hit. Police in catalonia last night said they shot dead the suspected driver ofa van they shot dead the suspected driver of a van that ploughed into pedestrians in barcelona last thursday. Younes abuyaaqoub was found hiding in a vineyard 30 miles west of the city. Scrap your car get some cash back on a new less polluting vehicle. The carmaker, ford is the latest company to offer the deal to customers. The scrappage scheme offers drivers 2000 pounds off a new ford if they trade in a petrol or diesel car or van thats over 7 years old. The scheme will run until the end of the year. The uk is to call for close co operation with the European Union to resolve cross border legal disputes, after brexit. We will get more details of the governments negotiating strategy later this time the focus will be on how things like divorces and commercial disputes that span multiple countries are handled. Currently it is eu regulations that specify how the appropriate court is chosen. An investigation has begun after a 17 Year Old Girl was sexually assaulted twice by two different men on board a train. She was travelling home from a Music Festival. British transport police say the assaults happened on a Great Western Railway Service between newquay and plymouth on saturday the 12th of august some time between 8. 45 and 9pm. The victim was returning from the boardmasters Music Festival. Police are appealing for witnesses. A danish inventor has been charged with killing a journalist in his submarine home. A headless torso was found in copenhagen. He initially said he left the swedish journalist alive on an island during a voyage, then he said she died in an accident. The authorities are yet to formally identify the body. Indias Supreme Court has ruled that the controversial islamic practice of instant divorce is unconstitutional. The practice enables a man to divorce a woman by saying the word talaq or divorce to her three times. The landmark decision is being hailed as a victory for womens rights activists. Royal mail has picked out ten of the nations favourite toys from the past 100 years for a set of stamps. Stickle bricks, meccano, the space hopper, action men and cindy are among them. Its chosen the toys for their enduring appeal. Were you watching . Astonishing images from the Great American eclipse. Millions watched as the moon passed in front of the sun casting a shadow more than 60 miles wide across earth. 0ur science correspondent pallab ghosh joined the sky watchers in oregon. They came in their tens of thousands, like pilgrims, to the tiny town of madras. They came to witness one of natures great spectacles. It is a quarter past ten in the morning but it seems like night time. We are just a few seconds away from the total eclipse, and the moon has almost completely covered the sun. It looks like a smiley face in the sky. The sun dims to an eerie pale light. Up above, a thin smile in the sky. And then a flash. A diamond ring. And then the moon blocks the suns bright disc. Its atmosphere, normally washed away by the solar light, now appears as a halo around the moon. It seems like a shimmering black pearl, hanging in the sky. This was definitely something you have to see in person. Its something that you cant describe. The eclipse crossed the entire us ten states, a distance of 2,500 miles, injust 90 minutes. From coast to coast, it seemed everybody was interested. For two incredible minutes, the tiny town became the centre of the universe, as those here became the first in america to witness one of the great wonders of the solar system. Palla b pallab ghosh, bbc news, nadras. That was one way to watch it. Passengers on a cruise watched it another way with bonnie tyler performing her apt song. Total eclipse of the heart. There you go. Bonnie tyler performing that power ballad from the 80s, passengers were on board that cruise ship especially to watch the eclipse. Joanna, im sorry to have put that song in your head for the rest of the programme. More at 9. 30. Its not the rest of the programme. More at 9. 30. Its not going to the rest of the programme. More at 9. 30. Its not going to leave. Thank you very much in a moment well speak to a strategist about President Trump changing his mind on afghanistan. Do get in touch. Right 110w afghanistan. Do get in touch. Right now let us catch up with the sport with hue and the footballer aluko has spoken for the first time about the bullying and discrimination she says she was subjected to by the england coach mark simpson . That is right. 0ne england coach mark simpson . That is right. One of the most capped players was dropped by england days after she made the allegations against mark sampson, having been asked by the Football Association to be part of a review and has claimed she suffered victimisation as a result of her reporting the discrimination. She also says two investigations into her grievances we re investigations into her grievances were flawed because key witnesses we re were flawed because key witnesses were not spoken to and key evidence not looked at. She also told our Sports Editor dan roan about an incident back in 2014. He asked me, which family members is it, who is coming to watch the game for you. I it, who is coming to watch the game foryou. Isaid, i it, who is coming to watch the game foryou. I said, i have family coming in from nigeria, family coming in from nigeria, family coming in. And he said, make sure they dont come over with ebola. When that was said, did you challenge him at the time and say thats unacceptable . No. I laughed. I laughed because, i mean, iwas in shock, i didnt know. I didnt know what to say. The fa have strongly denied the most recent claims, insisting the timing of her being dropped was coincidental and say all of the evidence remains anonymous. A three month independent investigation last year didnt uphold any of the only plaints and cleared sampson of the claims. Aluko reached a settlement with the fa receiving around £80,000. On to wayne rooney, another milestone in his career . Yes, 200 goals for wayne rooney in the premier league. It came against Manchester City. He said it would have been a nice moment for the red half of the city. This goal came for everton. His second of the season. Both teams ended the game with ten men on a dramatic night. Raheem sterling got the equaliser for Manchester City with eight minutes remaining. For rooney it was a night to remember, though he is still 60 behind the only other player to reach 200, alan shearer. Congratulations wainman reaching 200 premier league goals. A great achievement. Where have you been . The 200 club has been a lonely club over the last few years. Well done. Im sure you have in you. This is how they compare. Wayne rooney is the leading goal scorer for wayne rooney is the leading goal scorerfor his wayne rooney is the leading goal scorer for his country and 53. And finally, Victoria Azarenka has been forced to pull out of the us 0pen . Been forced to pull out of the us open . She wont be there. It is a tournament she has reached the final of twice. Because of an ongoing family situation that she is working through, she has withdrawn. She reached the fourth round at wimbledon but has not played since. She recently spoke about the issue and said she would only be able to play at the us open later this month in new york if she left her home son at home in california, something she wasnt prepared to do. She separated from her childs father last month. At the moment she is unable to play any tennis. Thank you. President trump says hes changed his mind about pulling us forces out of afghanistan since becoming president. In his first televised address to the nation, the president said he didnt want to repeat the mistakes made in iraq, by leaving a vacuum for militants to fill. Mr trump said instead hed be sending more troops though he didnt give an exact figure, and he refused to put a time limit on how long they would stay. He said it was in americas interests to fight to win. Terrorists who slaughter innocent people will find no glory in this life or the next. They are nothing but thugs, and criminals, and predators, and, thats right, losers. Working alongside our allies, we will break their will, dry up their recruitment, keep them from crossing our borders, and yes, we will defeat them, and we will defeat them handily. In afghanistan and pakistan, americas interests are clear. We must stop the resurgence of safe havens that enable terrorists to threaten america, and we must prevent Nuclear Weapons and materials from coming into the hands of terrorists and being used against us, or anywhere in the world for that matter. We are not nation building. We are killing terrorists what a difference from a few years ago, when donald trump was singing a very different tune afghanistan is a total and complete disaster. What are we doing . Money should be spent on our country. We should rebuild our country. Lets get with it. Get out of afghanistan. My original instinct was to pull out, and historically, i like following my instincts. But all my life ive heard that decisions are much different when you sit behind the desk in the oval office as president of the United States. The present war in afghanistan started in 2001, in the aftermath of the september 11 attacks on the World Trade Centre in new york. At its height there were armed forces from around 40 countries fighting Islamist Groups alqaeda and the taliban. President obama withdrew most american troops from the country by the end of 2014. 0nlyjust over 8000 us troops remain, supported by 5000 troops from nato, working to train the Afghan Security services and to run Counter Terrorism operations. Since then, the taliban has been taking back land that it lost in the war, and fighters from Islamic State are increasingly carrying out attacks in the country. Lets talk to scottie nell hughes, a journalist and supporter of President Trump. And larry korb, a military expert from the centre for american progress, and former assistant secretary of defence under president reagan. Welcome to both of you. That has been quite a rethink, hasnt it . It has been described as a flip flop, a u turn, what do you think . has been described as a flip flop, a uturn, what do you think . I think the president showed the frustration of the war continuing in afghanistan. I have been a part of the Trump Campaign long enough to remember back in march 2016 he did say, i think you have to stay in afghanistan for a while. It is next to pakistan which has Nuclear Weapons, and we have to protect them. He also said he will listen to his generals. And what a refreshing statement that is from a commander in chief that he will listen to those on the ground. President trump 0meley admitted a change in strategy. He wants to put America First. But also, he doesnt wa nt to America First. But also, he doesnt want to create a troubled situation like what we saw president obama doing is quick withdrawal of troops from iraq, therefore creating the terrorist issues were having many other countries. Larry, refreshing and humble from President Trump. How do you see it . Im glad he changed his mind from his campaign statements. I wish he could do that on the a lot of other areas. Im also glad he is listening to the experts rather than some of the other people who seem to have been pa rt of other people who seem to have been part of his National Security apparatus. But he really didnt tell us apparatus. But he really didnt tell us anything we didnt know. We have been trying to kill the terrorists since 9 11. He also, in my view, used the wrong analogy. We had the war in afghanistan won in 2002 0meley diverted our attention and resources to go into iraq, where there was no alqaeda. Alqaeda came in. The deadline we said in iraq was the idea of iraqis, not our idea. The question now is how long do the afghans want us what will be the rules. He is going to delegate more authority to military commanders. Having served in the military in vietnam. I know what the military wants. I dont think he should only have the military making those decisions. Because to struggle against isis and alqaeda has to be one psychologically and ideological it. And if you start bombing and killing innocent civilians, that will create more terrorists. For everyone you kill, you create six more. I want to talk to a bit more about the politics of it. Steve bannon, who has onlyjust left as chief strategist in the white house and gone back to the Breitbart News network, which meant people were looking at breitbart to see how they would react after this first policy speech since his departure. 0ne would react after this first policy speech since his departure. One of the headlines is, trumps America First base with flip flop in afghanistan speech. It confirms the fears that without a nationalist voice in the west wing, the president will revert to the same old fair. How will his core base react to this . That is a very good question. It is something i think a lot of americans will wake up to do today. In america, never depend on one Movement Based on one headline one Movement Based on one headline on one new site. If americans start to look at the president s plan, there will be not seeking any Additional Resources to support this new south asian strategy. We will stay on the same timetable. We will baseit stay on the same timetable. We will base it on actions on the ground. Americans will look at those mothers, fathers, wives and husbands who have lost people, whove lost loved ones in afghanistan, and its very ha rd loved ones in afghanistan, and its very hard look them in the eye and say, if we pull out our troops, your son and daughter died in vain. If that country continues to be a hotbed for terrorism, they could attack us in the United States. In terms of the cost, it currently costs 25 billion to sustain the president position a year. By sending in an extra 4000 troops, it estimates the cost financially. But also potentially in terms of american lives lost. Absolutely. But the president and the majority of americans would rather fight that war over there before we do have another 9 11 here. He has said previously he would do just the opposite and that was part of what americans voted for him for a . Absolutely. But i dont think you will see the reaction. It takes one terror attack on the ground here for people to realise we need to fight the evil over there rather than here at home. If people go through his plan in detail, and that is why you are seeing such overwhelming support. Come on, we are getting praise from my colleagues. Both sides in the United States are working together to find solutions. Unlike what we have seen in the last eight years. Both sides have the impetus from the experts to create a solution that works for everyone and not just one solution that works for everyone and notjust one side based on one ideology. Larry, when we talk about the numbers, they are still tiny compared to what they were at their height. What difference will be is extra troops make and what has changed, actually, in terms of the reality on the ground . |j changed, actually, in terms of the reality on the ground . I think its only going to make a marginal difference. The real issue nascar afghanistan as it was in iraq, are you going to have a government that gets the support of the people . The current government, just like the hamid karzai government, is ripe with corruption. Because of that theyre losing support from people who are not terrorists. They are people who, for example, support a particular ideology or a particular way of life, like the taliban. We have talked about and trump mention that last night, about coming to some sort of negotiations with the taliban. If they are so bad, how do you think you can negotiate . You have got them all over the world. The way to deal with them is not to go in to do nation building, just go in and attack them. You dont need to leave troops permanently there, any more than you have in the yemen. We are attacking alqaeda in the and in so or in syria, where we are allowing the Free Syrian Army to do the fighting and we are aiding them. A final thought from you, scotty, when he talked about how it was his instinct to pull out but then that decisions were much different when you sit behind the desk of the oval office. Do you think this will be the start potentially more u turns . There has been a huge change, obviously, in the people behind the scenes. No, i do not. This is National Security. This is because he has listened to intelligence briefings. The United States does not seek a military presence in afghanistan. They do want to withdraw. They want to do it responsibly. They want to do Economic Development, like he has here. His policy has been focused on Economic Development in order to help these crisis issues. He will adopt the same policy over there and get his troops out as quickly as possible. We will not do it responsibly like in the past. Thank you both. Do let us now your thoughts as well. Now do something to be different, the Great British bake 0ff. To be different, the Great British bake off. It moved to channel 4. New channel, new faces. Mary, mel and sue have gone, replaced by prue leith alongside Paul Hollywood and comedians Sandi Toksvig and Noel Fielding as the new presenters. Tv critics and the press had a sneak preview of the new style channel 4 bake 0ff yesterday. Lets take a look. Paul and pru must now decide who will be our first star baker and who will be the first to leave. The standard has been ridiculously high. This is one of the strongest challenges i have seen for the first programme. I think flow came straight back. That was a cracking good watermelon. Sophie has been constant. Stephen didnt fail us. Nobody wants to be the first person to leave. Who is in danger . Liam saved himself. Liam was stunning. Stacey, sensational. This didnt look like a handbag. Peter has not done well. Chris is full of good ideas. His flavours are spectacular but is baking falls short. None of it sounds straightforward. We have to send somebody. We could send noel. Ill go. Ill go now, actually. Ill take a hit for the team. Its been great. Loved working with you. Sandi will be fine. 0ur entertainment correspondent, lizo mzimba, got a sneak peak of the first episode. So was it any good . I really enjoyed it. Its a special show to the british public, they feel it doesnt belong particularly to the bbc or channel 4, it belongs to the bbc or channel 4, it belongs to the bbc or channel 4, it belongs to the nation. Its quickly become pa rt to the nation. Its quickly become part of the national fabric, so tinker with that at your peril. Three presenters. Short of cloning mary berry, the new presenter is just like her. Very quickly into the show it felt very, very comfortable, with all the familiar themes, the tent, the music, and of course the thing that drives it through from people watching this. Some do spectacularly well, some close to disaster and being judged along. I felt comfortable and didnt think, its not the same, i miss all these people. Its interesting because you wonder whether there would have been a real appeal in changing it a lot 01 a real appeal in changing it a lot or whether its better to keep it the same. Well only know when it airs but the big difference people have talked about is that therell be ad breaks. I was lucky enough in one way to see it without ad breaks but it was clear when they were coming. This is a difficult one for channel 4. A lot will not like the fa ct channel 4. A lot will not like the fact ad breaks are in there and that it breaks the flow of the programme in the way they remember watching it when on the bbc. I suppose perhaps there might be younger viewers who might see the ad breaks as good opportunities for popping on to social media, probably on social media throughout the programme a nyway media throughout the programme anyway but popping on and taking it asa anyway but popping on and taking it as a chance for five minutes to discuss and see what other people are saying. Of course that is inevitably going to be a big difference. A lot of people instinctively dont like ad breaks if they are given the option not to have them. Thank you very much its on tuesday. Yes. Lovely. Still to come. Politicians from across the political spectrum have said drugs laws need to be reformed. We look at the very different approaches in portugal and sweden to see what lessons can be learned. Gum disease sufferers are more likely to suffer from dementia, that isafinding likely to suffer from dementia, that is a finding that well discuss later. Heres matthew in the bbc newsroom with a summary of todays news. Its trump says the us is going to fight to win in afghanistan. Hes unveiled a new strategy in the war against the taliban in a major speech last night and said hed changed his mind about waite drawing troops from the country. He called on nato allies to do more as he lifted the cap on the number of us troops in afghanistan and said there was no time line for bringing them home. At least two people have died and more than 30 injured after an earthquake on the italian island of ischia. Residents and tourists ran into the streets as buildings collapsed; the quake hitjust before nine oclock yesterday evening. Footage has been released of a baby being successfully rescued from the rubble. Police in catalonia last night said they shot dead the suspected driver of a van that ploughed into pedestrians in barcelona last thursday. Younes abuyaaqoub was found hiding in a vineyard 30 miles west of the city. Scrap your car get some cash back on a new less polluting vehicle. The carmaker, ford is the latest company to offer the deal to customers. The scrappage scheme offers drivers 2000 pounds off a new ford if they trade in a petrol or diesel car or van thats over 7 years old. The scheme will run until the end of the year. Thats the summary, more at ten. England footballer eni aloku speaks to the bbc about the bullying and discrimination she says she was subjected to by coach mark sampson. Including her claims about a racist comment about her family. Sampson vehemently denies the claims and has been cleared of any wrongdoing. This is the 200th premier league goal of Wayne Rooneys career. It helped everton get a point at Manchester City. Hes only the Second Player to reach the landmark but is still 60 behind alan shearer. England will have wing Lydia Thompson fit for their Rugby World Cup semi final against france tonight. Coach Simon Middleton is promising no more rotation. Hes going to pick his strongest side fo rthe match in belfast. Victoria azarenka has withdrawn from the us open because of what she describes an an ongoing family situation that shes working through. She says she cant travel to new york and leave her son at home in california. Those are the headlines. More after ten. The liberal democrats new leader, vince cable, has told radio 1 newsbeat that he continues to support the legalisation of cannabis. His comments come as a series of politicians from across the political spectrum say its time for laws relating to the drug to be looked at. Newsbeats politics editor jim connolly has travelled to two European Countries to see how their drugs policies compare and how they might inform the debate here in the uk. Cannabis, weed, skunk, call it what you will. For many people, its a common sight at Music Festivals, house parties and frankly, your local town centre. Its the most commonly used illegal drug in britain and last in england and wales alone, over 2 Million People admitted taking it, even though being caught using it could land you in prison. But all over the world attitudes to cannabis are changing. These countries have decriminalised the drug, meaning if youre caught with a small amount of weed, youre not going to jail. Some have gone further and legalised it and if you want to see things changing at the pace, look at north america. In the us, 21 states have decriminalised small amounts of cannabis for personal consumption and eight have gone further, legalising recreational use. But the place that many are watching is canada, with the country set to legalise the drug next year. So with all this happening around the world, some in the uk are asking, cannabis, time for a change . Im in brighton to meet rob. Hi, rob. How are you doing . Not too bad. Hes the chair of the Brighton Cannabis Club and thinks the answer to that question is yes. So basically, were offering a venue that will offer a fully medicated meal to Brighton Cannabis Club members. When you say fully medicated, that means theres load of weed in the meal . Yes, its cannabis infused so it will get you high as a consumer. So this meal is all about taking lots of cannabis, basically . Yes. Lots of people today, its a rainy, drizzly day at the seaside, most people just go to the pub at lunchtime. Why notjust have a pint like everyone else . Why does it have to be cannabis . For us, we see cannabis as a less harmful alternative to basically smoking tobacco or drinking alcohol, but that isnt for everyone. So where exactly are we going . Because we are wondering the streets a little bit. I cant the exact location. What it is is its a restaurant in brighton that will allow you 24 hours in advance to book in a fully medicated menu if you are a bright Cannabis Club member. That makes it sound quite dodgy. Unfortunately, thats just due legality and thats why its only available for Brighton Club members. So in the kitchen here, a couple of chefs have been hard at work all morning, knocking up some food. Just taking a look over there now, it looks pretty impressive, to be honest. And to be honest, its not the kind of food you expect in a cafe you might get in amsterdam or somewhere like that. Its not brownies and space cake and anything like this, its pretty high end food. Ive been chatting to the chef whose behind it and hes worked in some really top restaurants. And before you get the wrong end of the stick, this is not what theyre going to be putting in all of the food. This green stuff here is actually genuinely a dressing for it. The food is going to be infused with an oil that goes through it and thats where the cannabis will be. So, rob, whats the starters today . It will be comfit chicken goujon is with black garlic and for the main course well be having grilled sea bream with purple afghan and pea arancini. I mean, where in there is the cannabis . Where are we finding cannabis in that one . So, youll find it find it in the pea arancini. Purple afghan will be the strain with the pea arancini. Its strange, isnt it . Because were sat here and its quite a civilised event if youre all sat around with a glass of red wine. Its quite relaxed atmosphere, but the government would say that what youre doing is illegal and its illegal because of the harm it can do to you and your friends and wider society. Why do you think you should be doing this . We believe that that information is updated. Their reports and research is outdated. If you take a look at spain, portugal, canada, america, theyll all coming through with progressive forward thinking policies forfinding more of a positive impact and utilising the cannabis culture for the positives it can do for the local community, for the industry, for medical patients, recreational users that just want to have a social experience, but not be criminalised for it. Its pretty obvious that you represent brighton cannabis, its all over your t shirt. How popular is the club . So far we have over 400 club members. We have been around for about three or four years now. We have over 40,000 instagram followers and 6000 facebook likes and we basically keep growing and weve had one of our outdoor events, green pride, which is grown year and year. Our first year we only had 100 people turn up to it. Our second year 1000, our third year 1500 and about eight different stalls and this year we hit over 3000 people attending and about 25 different schools setting up for the day with limited police interruption. Leaving rob and his friends behind in brighton, i cant help wonder how strict the law really is in the uk. Surely what they were doing couldnt have happened in the country with genuinely strict regulations . Somewhere like sweden, which despite having a reputation for being a liberal country, as some of the strictest drug laws in europe, arguably the world. Anneka stranzl is the minister in charge of drug policy. In sweden we have very broad Political Support in both the government and parliament for our drug free society. At the heart of swedish drug policy is this idea that cannabis is a gateway drug. Can you explain why you hold that policies are close . We see a among young people and also a lot studies show that an expensive use of cannabis or regular use of cannabis at early age also affects especially young peoples brains. So thats what it is an important part in our drug policy and the way that we work to prevent the start of the gateway that cannabis is for many young people into heavier drugs. Later that evening, i found two friends in a bar who have very different views on cannabis, so ijumped in for a chat. Its like of alcohol. I think it should be as prohibited as with our goal. I dont see the difference between it. Because your off licences government regulator, arent they . Yes, yes. And thats how youd like to treat weed. Yes, yeah i think so. You can have a beer or a glass of wine or anything weird food or wine or beer, but when it comes to drugs, itsjust drugs. And you think they should just be banned and thats the easiest way to deal with it. Yeah, absolutely. But is that really like the solution to that . Its a generation question, actually. I think a lot of the younger ones, they smoke more. Have you ever smoked a joint . Yes, i have. But you wouldnt do it in front of her because you jeopardise your friendship. No, no. I know she loves me anyway. Staying in europe, but going from one extreme to the other, weve come to portugal. Here, all drugs are do criminalise, meaning youre not going to be punished for possession. However, you may get sent to a hearing of whats called a Dissuasion Commission to assess your drug problem. I think it must be this one, so this is definitely the address weve been given. Well, theyve let us in, so thats a good sign. Its certainly not what youd expect at a court back in britain, but maybe weve got the wrong end of the stick. Maybe this isnt a traditional court. I must admit, is getting weirder. Its definitely not the entrance to a court youd be accustomed to back home. Users who are caught with small amounts of drugs are referred here and dealt with as medical patients and not criminals. Hi. Jim. Nice to meet you. Cheers for having us. This is the waiting room. These are the rooms where we have the preliminary interviews before the hearing stage. This is the room where we are having the hearing now. Well be able to join them. Ricardo has been given an appointment after being caught with cannabis at a Music Festival. Hes agreed to let us film his hearing if we dont show his face. He was caught was on cannabis then . Yes, he was caught with a small amount of hashish, the cannabis derivative. Because its a non addict, recreational user, first time offence, we suspend the procedure for three months. And if hes not caught a second time, in that period, we will close the procedure. After the hearing, im keen to have a chat with ricardo to see what he thinks of the dissuasion court. Do you think this process of chatting to a psychologist, a doctor, coming in here, has made it big about your drug. Im not addicted, so i will stop. From now on i will stop, i dont need it. The system in portugal, i think this is the best because its not for one mistake that a person has to have a life sentence. We focused a lot on the law relating to cannabis, but what about the science . When cannabis plants are being bred and grown, they have a substance that goes on to form three other substances when the plant grows. Two are really important when it comes to how the user is affected by the drug. Thc, thats what gets people high, but at increased levels, its also the thing blamed for Mental Health issues. The other substance is cbd. It acts as an anti psychotic and counteracts some of the negative effects of thc. Depending on the genetics of the plants, it can either have a high thc, low cbd strain, or cbd can be the main compound, or you can have something a bit more balanced. There are three main types of cannabis product and the amount of thc in each of them varies massively. Hash, where cbd is generally higher and thc tends to be low. Herbal cannabis, where thc levels are low and cbd is usually low or not there at all. And then theres high potency cannabis, often called skunk, which has high levels of thc and almost no cbd. Its also the most common type of cannabis being sold, making up around 80 to 90 of the market in the uk and some argue that its this lack of cbd and high thc in skunk that leads to Mental Health problems, especially in those with underlying problems. We wanted to put what wed found in sweden and portugal to the government here, but it wouldnt speak to us. In an e mail it said it has no plans to legalise cannabis, saying this Clear Scientific and medical evidence that its a harmful drug, which can damage peoples mental and physical health. The government wouldnt speak to us in person there, but we are going to speak to someone who will, hes very passionate about this subject. Hes a hereditary peer. Hes got a very personal reason for being interested in this subject. That looks like a suitably grand house for a lord. So, right, illjust move in here. Jim, really nice to meet you. Hes invited me along to talk about his 21 year old son who had a problem with cannabis. We noticed that there was something that was becoming strange with rupert about a year ago. Anyway, he was diagnosed with drug induced psychosis. And he was duly sectioned. One day injanuary he said to his mother that he was, that the voices were getting so strong in his head and he was very scared. Anyway, two days later he went out in the evening and. He killed himself. Afterwards, i spoke to the doctors, somebodyjust said in an offhand way that this is yet another, kind of, casualty of skunk. I said, well, isnt thatjust, sort of, cannabis must have changed, and he said that this was not really cannabis that you might have known, with the greatest respect, sir, when you might have been experimenting with the odd toke. He said this is completely different stuff. I looked it up on the internet. I was actually shocked to discover how strong this variant of cannabis is. And as such its believed that the way to tackle skunk is to legalise the Old Fashioned cannabis so it has the right balance of thc with cbd. And it has only a, sort of, level of potency. Lots of people listening to this will find it strange that a drug that you say killed your son, you are now campaigning to legalise. I think that skunk is, it has been labelled as cannabis but it isnt really. It is a frankenstein variant. Some people will argue that, frankly, your son may have had underlying Mental Health issues, thats what led to him killing himself and it wasnt the drug. Well, indeed, yes, that has been put to me. I received a whole lot of letters from people who read about ruperts death. Can i read you out one of them . Yeah, sure. So sad to read about the loss of your son, rupert. So many parallels with the death of my son. He also had a history of mental illness. The most part caused by smoking cannabis and skunk. Hes had correspondence with the Prime Minister and thinks we will see a change in attitude within the next five years. Since meeting lord monson i spoke to the Prime Minister. Unfortunately we werent allowed to film the conversation. But she told us she stands by her governments new drugs strategy, which, she says, is all about helping people recover. Walking around here and its not hard to find signs of people using cannabis. Everywhere you go in this area of east london, to be honest most of the places in the uk, you can see it. And even on a weekday morning you could smell it in the air. We had the same experience in portugal. Which, on the face of it, has got much more relaxed drug policies. But i keep thinking back to ricardo who we saw at dissuasion core. He was caught with a fewjoints going into a Music Festival and had to go to a half hour appointment with a psychiatrist, he had to go through that, kind of, court case experience. And i keep thinking, what would have happened to him if it had happened in the uk, had he been caught with the same amount of drugs at a festival here . Realistically, i suspect, not a lot. So, it does beg the question, when it comes to, say, weed, do we already have one of the more tolerant approaches in europe . And at nine oclock tonight, there will be a special programme by radio 1s newsbeat debating the future of britains laws and attitudes to cannabis. Presented by tina daheley, it will be shown live on the bbc news channel as well as on bbc radio 1. We will be talking more about that later. Coming up, well hear the funniest joke at the Edinburgh Fringe from the man who wrote it. If you keep your teeth clean you are less likely to develop alzheimers. That is the finding of research in taiwan which suggests that people with long term gum disease are 70 more likely to develop dementia. Although the study could not prove that gum disease directly caused alzheimers, researchers think proper tooth brushing should be advised to ward off dementia. We are joined by doctor nigel carter from the Oral Health Foundation and doctor norton. This sounds like a pretty dramatic statistic, that having gum disease could increase your risk of getting all slammers . It is an interesting new study that adds to a small but growing number of studies showing the link between chronic gum disease and alzheimers. The people in this study had to have periodontitis for more than ten yea rs. Periodontitis for more than ten years. It shows the growing link between gum disease, as i say, and inflammation. Inflammation in other parts of the body which we think could be causing problems in the brain. Why might you be there is a link between gum disease and damage to the brain . We dont yet know there is a direct causal link. This research doesnt show that. We can hypothesise. There are some reasons we think this could be happening. Periodontitis is caused by this inflammation in the gums. We think the chemicals produced by the body in response to that infection, they could be finding their way through the circulatory system into the brain. We think potentially some of the bacteria that causes periodontitis in the gums and in the mouth could be finding their way through to the brain. They could be two reasons why there is an increased risk of alzheimers disease and other conditions, caused by gum disease. Doctor carter, should there be a specific warning around gum disease that extends beyond the obvious impact, the other conditions that may be exacerbated by it . Absolutely. We are seeing an increasing body of evidence. This is one of a number of studies around alzheimers. But we have also got strong links with diabetes, with co ro nary strong links with diabetes, with coronary Heart Disease even with adverse pregnancy outcomes. It is looking after your teeth well. It is no longerjust about looking after your teeth and making sure you keep your teeth and making sure you keep your teeth. It is also about having better General Health and stopping some of these other conditions. Do we neglect our teeth . 0ur teeth seen by people as being a key part of their Overall Health . It is quite interesting. When the Oral Health Foundation was formed 45 years ago, more than one in three of the population had no teeth at all. We have come a long way in a very short time. People would be early middle age would be horrified if you said they would only have their teeth for another five years. But as a result of that, we havent necessarily kept the best oral care routines. We know, for example, that the recommendation from dentists is to clean your teeth twice a day, last thing at night and one other occasion for at least two minutes. The majority of people clean for about 45 seconds. Were not doing a good enough job. When about 45 seconds. Were not doing a good enoughjob. When it comes to traditionally flossing, cleaning in between the teeth, which is where those gum disease and periodontal disease decays start, we really are very poor. Five to 10 of us do that ona very poor. Five to 10 of us do that on a regular basis. That is something we should add into a routine. Matthew, the headline statistics being 70 more likely to develop alzheimers if you have gum disease is a stark one. But when you look at the figures, just one in 100 people with gum disease did go on to develop dementia in this study. Nonetheless, in which focused you think there should be around Oral Health Gum disease when it comes to talking about preventing alzheimers . And also, trying to make sure it doesnt get worse . It is also linked with cases of dementia worsening. Indeed. You make a good point about the exacerbation of conditions of dementia. Symptoms. Often it is difficult to communicate and identify the problem that may be causing the problem. In terms of where we go, we need to do more research, we need to really understand the causal links between the mechanisms of action that are relating gum disease to dementia. But i think it is clear, and it is clear from your expert but i think it is clear, and it is clearfrom your expert on but i think it is clear, and it is clear from your expert on this morning, that good oral hygiene is a very important concept and something we should all be adhering to. And i think it is safe to say that it will do no harm and probably do some benefit in terms of potentially reducing your risk of dementia. There are a number of other things we can do. What is good for the heart is good for the brain. We know that all of the Healthy Lifestyle choices we should be making around Good Cardiovascular Health can also be very beneficial for brain health. We can add oral hygiene to that as well. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. A joke about the new pound coin has been named the funniest of the Edinburgh Festival fringe. Thejoke, from his show ken cheng chinese comedian, won 33 of a public vote on a short list of gags picked by comedy critics. Werejoined from our edinburgh studio by ken cheng now. Im not a fan of the new pound coin. But then again, i hate all change. How do people normally react to that . They usually grown. It gets a lot overgrowns. That . They usually grown. It gets a lot overg rowns. It that . They usually grown. It gets a lot overgrowns. It has won you the title at the Edinburgh Fringe. What did you think when you got that . Did you expect it would be of the calibre to win such an impressive title . No. I was very shocked. I didnt even know it was being considered that much. Did you put yourself up for it . Did you have to campaign . No. I think someone saw my show and put it through. Journalists put together the list. How did you come up together the list. How did you come up with the joke . I think it came to me. I dont think there was any process. Am i right in thinking that you came up with it some time ago . Yes, icame you came up with it some time ago . Yes, i came up with it when it was first announced there would be a new pound coin. It is nice i can bring it back nowadays in circulation. That was in 2014. How many times have you told thatjoke . That was in 2014. How many times have you told that joke . that was in 2014. How many times have you told that joke . I didnt actually tell it on back then. I only introduced it in this show. I expect youll tell it more times than this . Yes. And have you got any other jokes you than this . Yes. And have you got any otherjokes you would like to tell us . Yes, a knock, knockjoke, do you wa nt to us . Yes, a knock, knockjoke, do you want to hear it . Yes. Knock, knock. Who is there . Auntie. Auntie who . I should point out that at this stage my aunties name is auntie hoo. Any others . I was in a shop thinking about stealing a magazine but in the end i couldnt take the heat. Excellent. Well you have got a good career ahead of you, im sure. Congratulations on taking the title. Thank you. Thank you forjoining us. Great to talk to you. Thank you. Now the weather with simon king. Lots of cloud around this morning. Its been a murky start for many. But very mild and muggy out there. This is the scene in devon. Some of us this is the scene in devon. Some of us have had some sunshine. With that, some fabulous cloud actually high up in the atmosphere. Look at that in cornwall, fascinating cloud that. Looks like waves on the ocean in the atmosphere. This is the warm sector in between two weather fronts giving the muggy conditions and the tropical air given the muggy conditions. Scotla nd conditions. Scotland and Northern Ireland, lots of cloud in those areas. Heavy rain into Northern Ireland. 0ne of cloud in those areas. Heavy rain into Northern Ireland. One or two showers dotted around across north wales into Northern England but really for most of england and wales, the clouds will thin and break and therell be warm sunny spells, in fact feeling very warm in places. Temperatures could reach 26 or 27. This evening, this heavy rain and showers will continue to move further north and east into scotland. Then gradually the warm and humid airwill scotland. Then gradually the warm and humid air will slowly push towards the east by this cold front. Behind it, fresher air coming in from the atlantic. So during wednesday, things turning a little more fresh towards the west and with that, some heavy rain and showers in scotland, northern parts of england. Those will tend to drift away and therell be sunny spells in the west with showers coming in. Towards the east, still quite warm with highs of about 24 or even 25. Going through witnesses night into thursday, that cold front continues to push away and then weve opened up the door to more atlantic weather systems coming into thursday. Well see more u nsettled into thursday. Well see more unsettled weather through thursday, heavy showers across scotland and Northern Ireland. 0ne heavy showers across scotland and Northern Ireland. One or two across parts of Northern England. For many parts, thursday is going to be a dry day with sunny spells. By friday, i think again its northern parts that will probably see more showers further south and drier and brighter. Going into the bank holiday weekend, there are some uncertainties in the forecast. If you have anything plans, the message is to stay tuned to the forecast. Bye. Hello its tuesday, its 10 oclock, im joanna gosling. In a change of heart, President Trump says he will send more troops to afghanistan to help fight the taliban. He warned that a hasty us withdrawal would leave a vacuum for terrorists to fill. He doesnt want to create a horrible situation like we saw president 0bama do in his wick withdrawal of troops from iraq therefore creating the terrorist issues that we are having in many countries today. The struggle against terrorist groups is notjust going to be one of militarily, its going to be psychological and ideaology issues. In the next few minutes, those involved with military and Charity Operations in afghanistan will be talking about what sort of impact the president s plans might have on the country. Here, possession of cannabis can get you five years in prison but despite this two Million People still took it last year. So is it time for a rethink . Weve been to two European Countries with very different approaches to drugs controls. The system in portugal is the best because its not for one mistake that you get a life sentence. And well be speaking to people on both sides of the legalisation debate later about whether uk drug laws go too far, or not far enough. The nhs fat busting scheme that will see ten towns offering people discounts on their family shop and cinema tickets so long as they exercise. Well speak to one of the healthy town directors. Good morning, heres matthew in the bbc newsroom with a summary of todays news. President trump says the us will fight to win in afghanistan. Hes unveiled a new strategy in the war against the taliban. In a major speech last night he said that he had changed his mind about withdrawing troops from the country. He also said nato allies must do more, he lifted the cap on the number of us troops in afghanistan and said there was no timeline for bringing them home. 0ur troops will fight to win. We will fight to win. From now on, victory will have a clear definition attacking our enemies, obliterating isis, crushing alqaeda, preventing the taliban from taking over afghanistan and stopping mass terror attacks against america before they emerge. At least two people have died; 25 others have been injured after an earthquake on the italian island of ischia; its just off the coast of naples. Several people are missing. Tv pictures show a church and other buildings have collapsed. The fire brigade has released footage of a baby being rescued from the rubble. Four men accused of being part of a terror cell which killed 15 people in spain last week are due to appear in court in madrid shortly. They arrived at a jail just outside the city last night. Earlier police in catalonia said theyd shot dead the suspected driver of a van which ploughed into pedestrians in barcelona on thursday. Younes abouyaaqoub was found hiding in a vineyard 30 miles west of the city. Scrap your car; get some cash back on a new less polluting vehicle. The carmaker, ford is the latest company to offer the deal to customers. The scrappage scheme offers drivers £2000 off a new ford; if they trade in a petrol or diesel car or van thats over 7 years old. The scheme will run until the end of the year. An investigation has begun after British Transport Police say an assault happened on a Great Western Railway Service between newquay and plymouth on saturday 12st august when a plymouth on saturday 12st august whena girl plymouth on saturday 12st august when a girl was assaulted between 8. 45 and 9 in the evening when she was sexually assaulted twice by two different people. She was on her way home from a festival. Police would like to talk to anybody who saw anything. A danish inventor has been charged with killing a journalist in his submarine. He orangelily told police he left the journalist alone on an island, then he said she went missing. Millions of people turned out to see the first total Solar Eclipse to sweep coast to coast across america in 99 years. The moon passed in front of the sun casting a deep shadow more than 60 miles wide. It began on the west coast above 0regon; it took about 90 minutes to cross 13 states, ending in south carolina. Thats a summary of the latest bbc news, more at 10. 30. Do get in touch with us throughout the morning, use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the Standard Network rate. Now let usjoin now let us join hugh for a sports update. Hi there. Wayne rooney has become only the Second Player to score 200 premier league goals, it came at ever tonnes 1 1 league goals, it came at ever tonnes1 1 draw at Manchester City last night and against the same opponents as his 50th and 150th, claiming afterwards the red sides of manchester would have enjoyed it. City were down to ten men after carl walker was sent off before Raheem Stirling equalised for the home side. Im not surprised about his performance, i know the player, i know how he wants to come back to everton and he showed the quality on the ball and the productivity of the player that he showed tonight, again, and we are really happy that hes back. He is still 60 behind the record holder, alan shearer. Congratulations, wayne, on reaching 200 premier league goals, a great achievement. Where have you been, man, the 200 clubs been a lonely place over the last few years. Well done, im sure you have a few more left in you aloko says she was subjected to bullying by her coach mark sampson, after he made prejudicial and bullying remarks. Hes been cleared by an fa investigation. He asked who is coming to watch the game for you. I said, i have family coming in from nigeria, i have family flying in. And he said make sure they dont come over with ebola. When that was said, did you challenge him at the time . Did you say that is unacceptable . No. I laughed. I laughed because, i mean, i was laughed. I laughed because, i mean, iwas in laughed. I laughed because, i mean, i was in shock, i didnt know. I didnt know, you know, i didnt know what to say. The fa says the ebola allegations were not investigated because aluko did not include them in herformal complaint. Because aluko did not include them in her formal complaint. She received an £80,000 settlement. The review concluded shed not been singled out. Englands women are preprayering for the Rugby World Cup semi final against france this evening. Lydia thompson will start on the wing after recovering from a knee injury. The squad has been rotated heavily up the squad has been rotated heavily up to now but hes now named the strongest side for what has been the toughest or what will be the toughest or what will be the toughest test so far. This is about putting the best 23 out that you feel are right for the job and if you feel its the right 23 for the next one, then you will put them out again, if you dont well make changes, simple as that. We dont even need to think about the next game until we get this one out of the way. This is huge. Chris froomes taken the leaders red jersey. He finished third to take the second overall lead. Britain is aiming to become Victoria Azarenkas pulled out of her tournament. She returned injune after the birth of her son and reached the fourth round of wimbledon but hasnt played since. She says she cant travel away to leave her son at home in california. She separated from her babys father last month. Headlines atjust after 10. 30. Thats all for now. President donald trump has announced plans for us troops in afghanistan. The present war in afghanistan started in 2001 in the aftermath of the september the 11th attacks on the World Trade Centre in new york. At its height there were armed forces from around 40 countries fighting Islamist Groups alqaeda and the taliban. President obama withdrew most american troops from the country by the end of 2014. 0nlyjust over 8000 us troops remain, supported by 5000 troops from nato, working to train the Afghan Security services and to run Counter Terrorism operations. Terrorists are nothing but thugs and criminals and predators and thats right, losers. Working alongside our allies, well break their will, dry out their equipment, keep them from crossing our borders and yes, we will defeat them and we will defeat them handily. In afghanistan and pakistan, americas interests are clear we must stop the resurgence of safe havens that enable terrorists to threaten america and we must prevent Nuclear Weapons and materials from coming into the hands of terrorists and being used against us or of terrorists and being used against us or anywhere in the world for that matter. We are not nation building again. We are killing terrorists. What a difference from a few years ago. Afghanistan is a total and com plete ago. Afghanistan is a total and complete disaster. What are we doing . Money should be spent in our country. We should rebuild our country. We should rebuild our country. Lets get with it. Get out of afghanistan. My original instinct was to pull out. And historically, i like the following my instincts. But all my life i have heard that decisions are much different when you sit behind the desk in the oval office. In other words, when you are a president of the United States. Lets talk to colonel richard kemp, the former head of British Forces in afghanistan, jawed nader, who is from afghanistan and runs the british and Irish Agencies Afghanistan Group and dr sarah fane, who runs the charity afghan connection which has done lots of work promoting sport and education in the country and will griffin, who served as a paratrooper in afghanistan and iraq for the us army. And carling cross, whose son was killed in afghanistan in 2003. Welcome all of you. Carleen, one of the three main reasons that donald trump david ferrer sending more troops in was to honour us soldiers who have died. What is your view . would just encourage our military leaders to choose these campaigns very wisely. And to make sure they are worth the sacrifice of our most precious resource. 0ur young men and women in arms. How do you feel about the thought of more american soldiers going in . It is such a complicated issue because i understand that he cantjust paul out of afghanistan. And its not just afghanistan, its that entire region that is very important. But it also makes me nervous as well. I understand the heartache and the sadness of losing a child. And i just would encourage them to really be wise about an escalation. And if we are going to escalate the number of soldiers, we have to back that up with programmes when they come home to help them reintegrate back into society. I think our commitment should span not only going into a country, but also supporting our military when their home. Will griffin what are your thoughts on that . You served in the us army as a paratrooper until 2010. Yeah, first of all if there are any people in afghanistan watching this, i apologise for me occupying your country and for what my country is doing to yours. And i want this to end. This is madness. 16 years. I dont know how we cant make the connection that the military being in the country is actually fuelling the terrorism. It is fuelling the conflict. We need to really address this issue. I really want the us military to pull out as soon as possible. If we need any matchroom metric of how we have been losing this war, in 2001 when the us went in there was one terrorist group. Now there are 20. More veterans have committed suicide since 2001. More civilians have died in this war. I dont know how else we can gauge this metric. We need to admit defeat and actually really strive for a true peace by trying to get the local villagers and provinces to talk, and not drunk striking civilians on the ground. Colonel richard kemp, how do you respond to the claim that the military are making the conflict worse . Well, we could pull out, and that was one of President Trumps options, to completely withdraw us forces from afghanistan, which would have left the country to the mercy of the taliban that would quickly engulf it and it would become as it was before, from which attacks could be carried out against other places in the world. Resonant trompes decision to reinvigorate the operation in afghanistan is the right one. President trump. Pakistan has been fighting on the wrong side for 15 years in afghanistan. They have been supporting the taliban. They have been supporting other extremist groups. And we have been paying them to do so. That has to end. The second thing he said which is important is that he is going to focus not on nation building but im killing terrorists. We were distracted too many years by some incredible idea of trying to turn afghanistan into a western european country, rather than focusing on killing the enemy. In addition to that, a key area is to help to build and develop the afghan National Security forces. So eventually they can take on the struggle. It will not end overnight. It will be a long term war. In terms of reinvigorating a military operation to bring security and to stop it being a haven for terrorists, 8000 troops currently there, potentially up troops currently there, potentially up to 4000 extra from the us. That co m pa res up to 4000 extra from the us. That compares with 150,000 troops at the height of the allied forces being there. Realistically, what can those small numbers achieve that will be any different to what has been happening . I think President Trump has not placed a figure on the numberof has not placed a figure on the number of troops he is prepared to send, nor rightly has he set a time frame. That is one of the failings of president 0bamas strategy, to capture the number of troops and set a time frame. President trump doesnt appear to be falling into that trap at this stage. I think the general in charge of afghanistan, the president has indicated he believes he has enough war fighting troops to deal with what he needs to deal with out there. What he is after is more forces to help advise and train the afghan National Security forces to work alongside them, dell direct Security Forces to work alongside them, delldirect air Security Forces to work alongside them, dell direct air strikes etc. And if they are targeted properly, and if the mission is to destroy the enemy rather than build of the country, i think there are a relatively small number of troops who have a chance of succeeding rather than those holding onto ground and trying to develop and build up grounds and villages. That was a mistake and strategy. Sorry to interrupt. I want to bring in our guest in the studio. The balance being talked about is military fight versus building up the country. You both work with charities in afghanistan. How do you see it . First of all, since 2001 there have been enormous amounts of progress made and people should know that. We often see the bad headlines about afghanistan. There are now 6 million more people in school. There is infrastructure, there are communications and there is a free press. If we simply add to the military, which im not saying its a bad idea, it will not create a new society. We need to support what is in place. We have fantastic young people in afghanistan who want a positive future. We need to help them with education, jobs and economic support. Alongside the military support, that will give horse a real chance of a more successful afg ha nista n. Horse a real chance of a more successful afghanistan. Nobody would deny nation building is a good thing. Whether trump is looking at it from the military perspective of trying to target terrorism, the number of terrorist groups in the country has increased, what is that nation building done to win hearts and minds and make the world a safer place . I think nationbuilding has been successful. There has been development and humanitarian work. A lot of afg ha Ns Development and humanitarian work. A lot of afghans will have great sides of relief that the United States and the International Committee does not abandon afghanistan. The International Military presence stops civil war in afghanistan. Do you think if the troops withdrew, there would have been a different outcome . It would have been catastrophic. What is absent from the military strategy is what happens after military strategy has accomplished its goals. What happens after afghanistan has got rid of taliban and other extremist groups. For that, Development Problems on education and health and infrastructure is really important. Back to you, richard kemp, as you pointed out, President Trump has not put specific figures. The pentagon has the go ahead to send an extra 4000 troops. Potentially more could go in the end. There is also no final timeline. As a military person, what would you say the a nswe rs person, what would you say the a nswers to person, what would you say the answers to those undefined areas should be . I think the president is quite right in not specifying military figures. And also, in not giving a timeline and did not setting out a strategy in detail. This was something president obama did. It gives the enemy information that we dont want them to have. It enables them to say, they are going to pull out in five years, if we can work to that time frame, or we can strike then. That is what they can do with that information. It is right not to give those figures. I do think the key really is pakistan. Pakistan has given a safe haven for taliban, alqaeda, Islamic State, striking into afghanistan. They have not only given them the safe haven, they have provided material support, including helicopter lifts and that sort of thing. That has to stop. The diplomats and politicians must make a very concerted effort in turning pakistan around. That will not be easy. Pakistan has a specific interest themselves in their view of maintaining instability in afghanistan, and controlling organisations like the taliban, which they have been doing. That is probably the greatest challenge we could have. If we dont achieve that, internationally, idont could have. If we dont achieve that, internationally, i dont see how we can possibly defeat the taliban in afghanistan. No matter how many forces we put in. Sarah, you said you were not opposed to the military side things. What do you think would be the best strategy Going Forward to improve the lives of afg ha ns Going Forward to improve the lives of afghans and make the world safer . We have to invest in our young people. They are determined, they are resilient. They want to be the future of afghanistan. They want to dictate their future. Any strategy must include development and support for those young people. And what is to stop them being vulnerable to militants who sort of offer the assistance that has been offered previously, where the militants have stepped in and offered communities these are support they have needed . That is exactly my point. I have seen areas in afghanistan that are so poverty stricken, they have no water, no schools, no hope. If we dont support those communities, thatis dont support those communities, that is what will happen. That is why development is so important. Really good to speak to you all. Thank you for your views. Coming up, the nhs fat foster fat busting scheme that weed, skunk, cannabis call it what you will. Its the most commonly used illegal drug in britain even though being caught with it could land you in prison. The liberal democrats new leader, vince cable says he continues to support the legalisation of the drug. His comments come as a series of politicians from across the political spectrum tell us its time for laws relating to the drug to be looked at. Newsbeats politics editor, jim connolly is with me. It is talked about so much and yet nothing changes. You have been looking at how it works in other countries. What have you been looking at . We have looked at how it works in two other extreme countries. We have looked that the political reality in the uk. There isa political reality in the uk. There is a growing Campaign Around the world to see lots of countries moving decriminalisation. We have gone to the new liberal democrat leader and asked him specifically, are you going to stick with your policy, which was to legalise the drug . Insiders in the party, everybody working within the liberal democrats, says to us, this was not a popular policy on the doorstep when we were campaigning, but the reality is, we stick by this because we think it is a better way regulating the market. The political reality is the government have no intention whatsoever of changing the law on cannabis. They say it remains a class b drug. It is harmful to users. You have looked at elsewhere. What is the evidence of what is happening in other countries . What you have got in other countries is you have got in other countries is you have got countries. Lets look at north america. You have got eight states legalising the drug. You have got more than half of states decriminalising for medical use. What you have got there is a Movement Towards a more liberalised approach in western country. Next year you will have canada going in a similar direction. And they are going to legalise across the whole country. Uruguay have done the same. Decriminalisation Movement Across europe. In the uk we have seen a rise in so called cannabis social clu bs. Rise in so called cannabis social clubs. Six years ago, there were nonein clubs. Six years ago, there were none in this country. Now there are more than 100. They are based on a spanish model where users get together and by getting together they feel safer from prosecution. They are also campaigning, dealing within each other, to each other. It isa within each other, to each other. It is a regulated market. We have been out with rob from brighton cannabis. You represent brighton cannabis. It is all over your t shirt. How popular is the club . So far we have more than 400 club members. We have been around for three or four years. We have 6000 facebook likes. We basically keep growing. At one other outdoor events, we have grown year on year. The first year we had one other people. By the third year, 1500. This year we hit over 3000 people. 25 stalls selling up for the day. Youve also been looking at what is out there on the streets. Skunk you said about the different terms that have been used. Is it skunk that have been used. Is it skunk thatis that have been used. Is it skunk that is being used . Yes, skunk is a controversial term because actually it refers to specific strains of cannabis. What we use the term skunk, the media particularly, the tabloids especially is this killer deadly skunk. What theyre referring to there is hypotency cannabis. What you have got to look at is what is in cannabis. Its got two main su bsta nces in cannabis. Its got two main substances that affect the user when they take it. Thc, that is what makes people frankly high, but its also the thing linked to Mental Health problems when its in high quantities in the drug. The other thing there is in cannabis is cbd which acts as an antipsychotic and the they ary is that it balances out the they ary is that it balances out theissues the they ary is that it balances out the issues that the thc bring to it. 80 of cannabis bought amongst dealers on the street, its the hypotency called skunk and is linked to Mental Health problems with people in susceptibility, or at least that is the claims. Lord munson, we spoke to him, his son killed himself, he had Mental Health problems after smoking lots of this hypotency stuff. He says its the skunk that is the problem and he wa nts skunk that is the problem and he wants it banned. Lots of people listening to this will find it strange that a drug you say killed your son, you are now campaigning to legalise . I think that skunk has been labelled as cannabis but its not really, its a frankenstein variant. That is lord munson who lost his son. Lets get a bit of a Wider Perspective on this. Were joined from our bristol newsroom by david raynes. He is opposed to be the decriminalization of cannabis hes from the National Drug prevention alliance. And joining us via videophone from malaga in spain is ian hamilton, a lecturer in Mental Health at york university, who has done research into the Mental Health risks of using cannabis. Let us pick up on the point that cannabis has hypotency when its sold on the streets. Are people aware that its such hypotency and, what are the links to Mental Health issues . I think the problem is for many people who wont be aware of the potency of the cannabis they are using until they actually are exposed to it. That is a real problem. I agree that regulation would in some ways help to resolve that because, in the same way we do with alcohol and tobacco, there would be a clearer idea of the quality and strength of the product that people were using. So when you say regulation, that would be part of legalisation . Yes, that is right. Theres many forms that can take. Its not a kind of straightforward an off switch with regulation. There are different an off switch with regulation. There a re different systems an off switch with regulation. There are different systems and different ways that can be done, it doesnt have to be a complete free for all, there are different options we could look at. What do you think about the prospects of legalisation, david raines . Its not going to happen in the uk. Its absolutely clear its not going to happen. About 19 months ago, we had a parliamentary discussion debate only about 14 mp5 turned up, of them at least four to my knowledge were against it. Complete lack of interest after a public campaign. Sorry, but can minds be closed when you look at what is going on in other countries, specificallyjims report looked at the model in portugal and sweden, the model in portugal and sweden, the model in sweden is a sort of punitive absolute strongly policed ban, whereas in portugal its about decriminalising and we saw injims report earlier someone in portugal caught at a festival with a snail amount of cannabis was taken through amount of cannabis was taken through a cou rt style process amount of cannabis was taken through a court style process and give an psychiatric appointment for half an hour. You look then at the number of drugs related deaths in portugal compared to sweden and theres a huge difference, a Million People in portugal dying as a result of taking drugs versus nearly 80 in sweden. Yes. So why doesnt that get looked at, why are you sure politicians will dismiss that and stick with the status quo . You have mixed up various things, not many people die from taking cannabis, although a few do, and that is underreported. The uk is probably a Half Way House between portugal and sweden. Ive been to portugal three times and discussed their drugs laws with their parliamentarians. Portugal is sort of decriminalises for possession up to ten days supply. In the uk, the argument that people go to prison for taking cannabis personal use of it is nonsense. In fa ct m ost personal use of it is nonsense. In fact most people dont get prosecuted so we are much nearer to portugal than the programme is giving the impression. And theres an awful lot of nonsense talked about skunk. I dont use the term skunk, i use the term high thc cannabis. What you said about thc and cbd is correct. We have to look at where the high strength cannabis came from. It came in from the states because they had poor herbal cannabis. It was developed in the netherlands and it took over the market there and here. It didnt ta ke market there and here. It didnt take oaf the market because pushers pushed it, it took over the market because of consumer demand. So any legalisation of low strength cannabis would create a larger market and we have the laws because theyre there to contain drugs use. Actually, we are quite successful. If you look at tobacco for instance, tobacco use is down from 48 of the population in 1948 to about 16 of the population now and we have done that through a combination of laws and social pressure. Cannabis is about 6 7 of the population using it and most grow out of it. You started off with the lib dem policy which is absolutely balmy and does vince cable, a wise old man of my age, does he really believe in it . I dont think he does. I think hes been trapped by his nutters in the fringe of his party. But why do you think its. What do you think of theissues think its. What do you think of the issues around it, the sort of discrepancy between what the lib dems say on Mental Health and what they talk about with drugs . There is a big problem isnt there. Norman lamb and nick clegg have both spoken about Mental Health services for young people. Cannabis causes Mental Health problems and aggravates them in young people who have them because their brains arent mature until theyre in their early 20s. 0k, until theyre in their early 20s. Ok, i until theyre in their early 20s. 0k, iwant until theyre in their early 20s. Ok, i want to get the thoughts of ian on that then because when people talk about legalising cannabis use, its not for young people is it, i mean, what is the evidence for damage in terms of Mental Health for young people . Ian, can you hear us, still . Yes, sorry, it was breaking up still . Yes, sorry, it was breaking upa still . Yes, sorry, it was breaking up a little. Just picking up on the point about the liberal democrats talking about legalising cannabis but also the focus within the party on Mental Health and the point im making that is it contradictory . Well, no, idont making that is it contradictory . Well, no, i dont think it is. I think regulation offers the opportunity to protect particularly young people who for a small number, some will be sensitive to the effects of particularly hypotency cannabis. 0fficers. Effects of particularly hypotency cannabis. Officers. Sorry, but as things stand now with messages going out about legalisation with the fact that there is primarily hypotency cannabis on the streets, does it send a message to young people that actually its ok to smoke it and for the dangers to young people toe be overlooked . Well, i think part of the problem is, we dont have enough information in the uk about a number of things to do with cannabis, including the young peoples views. We have very little in the way of information about how potent cannabis is. Thats not true. It is, david, we have. Thats not right. No, icant david, we have. Thats not right. No, i cant allow that to go. Its based on proxy measures, things Like Home Office seizures and the narrative is built up so that we have these strains of cannabis, we may well do. We are almost out of time. Let me very quickly, in three seconds just to respond, time. Let me very quickly, in three secondsjust to respond, david . The claim from ian is absolute nonsense. We know what they contain and we have known that since 1973. I used to go to the lab and i tested it for years and years and years and ians pa rt of years and years and years and ians part of that school of people who wants to legalise. We are right out of time. Thank you very much for a lively debate, thank you. Still to come, as four men appear in court accused of being part of the terror cell in barcelona last week, we speak to counterterrorist officers about whether we are going to have to live with terror and the town that is offering rewards to families that exercise. Instant divorce amongst muslims , where men can terminate their marriage simply by uttering the word talaq three times , has been banned in india. In whats being seen as a major victory for womens rights activists, the countrys Supreme Court has declared the practice unconstitutional. It is presently outlawed in pakistan and bangladesh. 0ur correspondent, shalu yadav, is in delhi. Tell us more about it . Its a landmark judgment here, being tell us more about it . Its a landmarkjudgment here, being hailed as historic. Not just landmarkjudgment here, being hailed as historic. Notjust by muslim women but by women across india. The Prime Minister himself tweeted half an hourago Prime Minister himself tweeted half an hour ago welcoming thejudgment and congratulating the muslim women who went ahead and challenged this practice in court. He said this will go way ahead in empowering the women of this country, so quite a landmark judgment. The womens Rights Groups have welcomed it with open arms and this was a judgment which was much anticipated for the last one year in india. There was a lot of debate around it because of the controversial nature of it where a muslim man could just simply get divorced from his wife simply by saying three words which translated as towards in hindi. Where is it still legal . I didnt get that question . How many countries have banned it . Well, i cant give you the count, but then this was one of the count, but then this was one of the arguments which was put in the court today that even the islamic neighbouring countries of india for instance, pakistan and bangladesh have banned it a long time ago. So why not india, go ahead and do Something Like this which is a landmark decision on the Supreme Courts part. However, the courts said that now its up to the government to decide whether they wa nt to government to decide whether they want to bring in a law to address this issue. Its a very sensitive issue here. The muslim bodies have tried to protect this practice of triple talek and say its a religious matter and the court and the government shouldnt be allowed to interfere in this. Thank you very much. The four men held in connection with the attack last week in barcelona are due to go to court today. Younes abuyaaqoub was found hiding in a vineyard 30 miles west of the city yesterday. 0fficers believed the suspected ring leader may have blown himself up accidentally shortly before the barcelona attack. It was the latest in a series of terrorist atrocities in europe, using vehicles to kill, including the killing of 87 people in nice and 12 in berlin. Does the increase in this type of attack mean people are getting too used to terrorism . Do we need to resign ourselves to a level of violence that will just exist for the foreseeable future . We can speak to dr evan lawrence, Counter Terrorism expert at the university of central lancashire, dr sarah perry, clinical psychologist at Manchester Metropolitan University and jim gamble in Northern Ireland former Counter Terrorism officer. Thank you all very much forjoining us. Are we having to adjust to what is effectively a new normal, not commonplace but there . Realistically when we Start Talking about Counter Terrorism and security, you can never have 100 security. So i think that this is something that weve seen become more prevalent in the last 15 years or so. But realistically when you look back historically as well, you know, the 60s and 70s, even into the 80s, we have large amounts of terrorism, it wasnt the same type though. So i think that, you know, there seems to be this false idea within society that terrorism is really quite new and very scary, but realistically its been around for a long time and i think its something that is being covered better by the media and so supreme more information about it. But i dont know that its something thats new all together. How do you see it,jim, thats new all together. How do you see it, jim, with your experience of what happened in Northern Ireland . I certainly dont think it is new andl i certainly dont think it is new and i dont think there are good terrorists or bad terrorists. There are have been people about using violence further ends forever. If we move to a position where there is an a cce pta ble move to a position where there is an acceptable level of violence, i think we fall into a trap. We have had that cycle in Northern Ireland for decades. I was in nice a couple of weeks ago sitting in a cover with my wife having a meal when four different armed patrols, army patrols, went past. The thing that shocked me is that some people didnt even raise an eyebrow. And i think when we go beyond being shocked about that, then we are in danger of getting into a problem where we think this happens and it happens in some places at some times. Putting the army on the street is an easy thing to do. Getting them back off it, in my experience in ireland, is very different. Sarah, what would you say is the impact on national psychologies . When things started to u nfold psychologies . When things started to unfold it is shocking but we have to adapt . We do. Other instances where there have been ongoing threats, they tend to show that communities are incredibly resilient. That common sense of purpose, possibly outrage, a struggle against a common threat, it seems to be very supportive. And as your other guests mention, this isnt new. It is a different approach to terrorism. If we look back through history, we tend to see the same parens, communities come together, support each other, and that helps on an individual level. Jim, what we have here mainly is on one side. There is not the tit for tat that takes things to a different dynamic. How does that make things different . In some ways it is similar and in some ways it is very different. You havent got opposing factions fighting each other on the streets of european cities. In Northern Ireland we had loyalist terrorism and republican terrorism. While both of them accepted Collateral Damage andindeed of them accepted Collateral Damage and indeed attacked civilians, there are nuances around what we have now. 0ne are nuances around what we have now. One of the disturbing themes i see is that in this particular instance, where they are attacking in london, knees or barcelona, you have got young people, many of whom will have significant Mental Health issues, there have been radicalised either online or off line and influenced by others, and there is sole purpose is to strike fear through protest. The attacks are a protest in these communities. Whilst the other speaker talked about the resilience of communities, one of the things i would say is the difficulty here and where we will lose, is if we allow this form of isis terrorism to become synonymous with a community. What they do is they hide behind communities but they dont actually come from within communities. That is one of the problems in Northern Ireland. I think we cannot allow the 2. 24757; gag1. 5951; fie 1; figs. el e or m Mental Health backgrounds. From elsewhere, from elsewhere, but from iae hatred but from iae hatred in t they simply manifest their hatred in attacks on innocent members of the public. We have to keep that community cohesion. We have to stand together, all races, all colours, all creeds, against this. Dont allow yourselves to be divided. Dont allow yourselves to be perceived as partisan ad any stage. In terms of practical advice, run, high tell, is that the best advice . Absolutely. The police do a really good job and our Security Services are quite adept at dealing with attacks and the response to attacks. Practically. Members of the public dont really need to worry so much about attacks or being caught up in attacks. The likelihood is quite low when you look at the statistics. But what you do need to start doing is really demanding from your politicians and your governments, that we start dealing with why people are radicalising in the first place. We are to a point now where, realistically. Sorry to interrupt. Isnt that exactly what has been happening for a long time . Well, no. I think we expect, especially certainly within the uk, we expect the police and the Security Services to do everything for us. They are stopping and talking to people and really working with communities. But thatis really working with communities. But that is not really theirjob. Their job is to be a reactive force to crime. They have been thrown into, in the last 15 or 20 years, this whole kind of larger concept of counterterrorism. It is an important aspect, but i think that we have two, as a society, start working with the police and the other part of that puzzle is figuring out why people radicalise and stopping them before they get to the awareness of the police. That is really the only way we are ever going to be able to address terrorism in the long term. The police are only ever going to be reactionary. Sarah, the point of any terror is to spread fear, to get people to change their behaviour. What is the evidence of how much people do that, and how quickly people do that, and how quickly people do that, and how quickly people do bounce back . The individual ability to bounce back is bothered by that sense of belonging and identifying with community. But the flip side of that is that people can perhaps over identify with communities. The sense of a shared enemy may become too broad, which is what we are seeing in the us at the moment, where whole groups of people are being identified as potentially threatening, which is definitely not helpful. We need to maintain the language of unity, hopefulness, togetherness, and try to maintain the focus of inclusion and that everybody is able to support one another, so that we dont brads and up another, so that we dont brads and up in that position of certain groups identified as threatening. Thank you all very much. Enqueue. Thank you. Families could get discounts on their supermarket shop, and free cinema tickets, for hitting exercise targets under a new nhs scheme. The proposal, which is aimed at cutting pressure on the health service, will see app users rewarded for walking. The programme will be trialled in halton lea, cheshire, at one of 10 Housing Developments which make up the nhs healthy new towns scheme. Kevin mcgough is the director of the ebbsfleet garden city healthy new town. Kevin, what is the healthy town. Kevin, what is the healthy town trying to do . Good morning. The garden city. The project is being pioneered by the nhs in england. It isa pioneered by the nhs in england. It is a drastic initiative that is trying to stay take a step back. If we are going to build a whole new town, lets do it better than we have done historically. Can we get Better Health outcomes and get people much more involved in designing Health Services if we start from scratch . What are some specific examples of what the incentives are for people to improve their Healthy Lifestyle . Each of the ten healthy new towns have different initiatives. At ebbsfleet, we have got three strands. Put people in control of their own health. A whole new built environment. We will build seven new parks. And we want people to get involved and help design them. We have got new and existing communities. We have initiatives to try to get them involved in designing the town and becoming more active. 0ne designing the town and becoming more active. One example for us is a programme where we give 100 people whove already signed up, new and existing residents, to support each other to get more active and to use the gps ladders we will be monitoring where they go in the next year. Im trying to work out what the incentive is. There are parks in towns already. People can buy gadgets for their wrists to lose weight. Are you offering things like the sort of headline items that have been mentioned, the cut price sports gear, free cinema tickets, discounts etc . If people stay within our initiative for a year, they will keep their device. They will also help design the parks they will live on. They tell us what kind of parts they want. We will design the parks for them. They will tell us how to design the city in a way. Stephen, what do you think about it . The initiative is really timely. Modern life has been successful in stripping effort out of everything. 0ur leisure stripping effort out of everything. 0urleisure time, stripping effort out of everything. 0ur leisure time, the way we get to and from schools, work etc. Ive not even had to come to your studio today. I am doing it from my office. That is really bad for our health. Physical inactivity, according to the world health organisation, is the world health organisation, is the fourth largest cause of premature mortality, globally. Im sorry to interrupt because we are short on time. Ijust want sorry to interrupt because we are short on time. I just want to understand exactly what is going to make people behave differently . These are things we know. We do know them but our towns and cities previously have been designed in a completely different way. This is starting from scratch, the idea of designing activity back into lives where we have stripped it out. That is really important. Jackie freedman is in charge of the fiz walking and Cycling Group in dorset. What are you doing to get people fit and healthy . We have to work with the existing community and the housing situation they are in. We go into the community and try to get those people active by looking at what is stopping them. The barriers to walking and cycling that they experience. What are the barriers you come across . For example, cycling, if youre living in social housing, where do you put your bikes . If you can afford your bikes. Most people cannot even afford bikes. If you go as a family, that might be several bikes, plus the paraphernalia. They have to be able to afford those bikes. We have been supplying recycled bikes. We have to make sure they are safe. On top of that they dont want to go near traffic. They need cycle routes that are safe, that are pleasant and that are safe, that are pleasant and that are nearby. And we dont know where those cycle routes are. They do exist and they love to get out with the kids on the bikes but it is a big challenge to get them out, a challenge to get them to. Also, there are a lot of leisure routes where we live. There just isnt the infrastructure. For walking, where we live. There just isnt the infrastructure. Forwalking, people are very nervous about going out without support. They like to go in a group, particularly if they are with kids. There are a lot of lone parents. It is good to have them to get out as a group. That is what we try to do. We try to meet them in their communities and enable them to learn about what public transport options are available to get them to most places. How much impact, kevin, do you think the environment has on peoples desire and incentive to actually get out to do the best for themselves . I think it is critical. If they havent got cycle routes, places to walk, they will not do it. It is important people move into the new town, that we encourage positive behaviours from the beginning. And that people actually feel safe. We are actually finding that our new residents are working well with existing residents. They tell them about the routes. Thank you. Thank you for your company. Bbc newsroom live is next. Bye bye. Good morning. While its pretty cloudy out there are many, it feels pretty warm and humid. It is going to stay quite one into the afternoon. First song, turning very warm. You can see the extent of the doubt. Gradually it will break, giving sunny spells in central and southern england. Showers in South West England and across wales. Heavier showers moving into Northern Ireland. Localised flooding. Rain moving its way into this far west of scotland. Temperatures 19 to 24. In the south you could see temperatures as high as 26. Through this evening, the rain will spread its way into scotland. That would be with you for wednesday morning. Heavy showers likely across Northern England. Be start again. Some good breaks in the cloud developing. Turning dryer in northern areas. Fresher on wednesday and the rest of the week. This is bbc news, and these are the top stories developing at 11. Fight to win, President Trump indicates more us troops will be sent to afghanistan as he steps up the war against the taliban. We are not nation building again. We are killing terrorists. Four men accused of belonging to the terror cell behind the attacks in spain which killed 15 people are due in court in madrid. Cash for your old car, ford becomes the latest to offer customers an incentive to trade in older models in the drive for cleaner air. Also this hour, remember me . George osborne urges theresa may to commit to building high speed rail across Northern England. The former chancellor tells the Prime Minister to back hs3, saying it would be be a good way to relaunch her premiership and rebalance the economy