Heightened Britains Opposition Labour Party has split into warring camps and already half of David Camerons cabinet has already resigned. Boris johnson has attempted to provide reassurance for the telegraph newspaper and on monday morning, to the press. Theyve said reassuring things to the market. Budgetlear now that fears are over. Pensions are safe. The market are stable and i think thats all have good new. Charlie mr. David cameron who plans to leave office in october said he would leave it to his successor to set in motion britains eu exit. Michael gove has left open the possibility that a second referendum could take place, however in an address to Parliament TodayDavid Cameron said there must be no doubt on the result. Of course, when i go to the European Council tomorrow, i will report on the decision of the british people and nobody should be in any doubt about that. I think it is important that we set off on this path of exiting from the European Union and build as much goodwill as possible on both side. Charlie in a joint statement, Germanys Angela Merkel and other leaders urged britain to make a swift exit from the e. U. Joining me now from london, the editor of the Financial Times david sanger of the new york , times and greg ip of the wall street journal. Here in new york with me, john cassidy of the new yorker. First i go to ronald in london. Tell me what happened today that we should take note of . Today you had the Financial Market reckoning. A further dive in the value of sterling against the dollar and the yen and the euro. You saw also a big selloff in equities, the banks being hammered and then just right after market close, the u. K. Triple topnotch grade. S p downgrades us. This is the beginning and its what a lot of people predicted but im afraid many other who others who voted leave and campaigned for leave, the people said they are fed up with the experts. Charlie any left on the part of those in london that believe they can revote . Theres lots. More than three Million People have signed a petition saying that they want a second referendum. We have some of the leading advocates who voted leave and campaigned for leave say they now have buyers remorse but David Cameron made it clear theres not going to be a second referendum. Were out and now we have to figure out our relationship with the European Union. Charlie david, beyond the economic aspects of this and relationships among nations and relationships with the European Commission and the commissions relationship with everybody whats the impact in terms of , geo political struggle . Theres the british relationship, of course, with the e. U. But there are so many interlocking and interdependent other elements of britains relationship. Obviously its a member of nato. 27 members of the e. U. It is a key member of many other international groups. And i think that the big question being asked here in washington, to what degree does britains influence decline there and how does that hitter that influence the United States . Of course in washington everybody or everything comes back to what does it mean for us, right . So the concern is that the relationship, the special rhythm with britain is more than a phrase that goes back to roosevelt and churchill. It also connotes the fact that britain was often the one that intervened directly with other european nations, that moderated their trade demands, that nudged them along to contribute more militarily, not only to nato but other elements and acted sort of , as the informal coordinator of intelligence, something that weve learned in the attacks of paris and brussels, europe is still having a hard time doing, sharing intelligence. So i think the larger question is if britain loses influence, if it is distracted for the next few years by this remarkable bit of political chaos, is it going to be able to play that role and is there anyone else able to step into it . The answer i heard over the weekend is pretty much not. The germans dont have the desire or capability to step out militarily. The french are frequently there is just too much sand in the gears between the way the u. S. Sees the world and the way the french do at times. Italy is too broke. The netherlands is too small. The list goes on. Poland is not ready to step up to that role. So i think there are many in washington looking around trying to figure this out and why john kerry is in both brussels and london today. Charlie the interesting thing about it i happened to be in , europe in the time in germany interviewing the president right after he left germany and had been there campaigning. He said youll have more influence in the European Union and you will do more for all of us if youre in the European Union. He hammered that time after time. Thats right and i was there in that remarkable News Conference with Prime Minister cameron and in my insulated way i thought he had made a pretty compelling case and probably had moved a fair number of votes within britain, despite the criticism that he was intervening in british politics. I guess the answer is we were all listening to that in london , not in the rest of the country. Charlie i know that you have to go, but why is Vladimir Putin cheering . Putin sees this issue is one as one that divides the europeans and therefore helps him, i think, as he reasserts his power. He is sending bombers on bombing runs along the coast, submarines underneath off the coast of many European Countries and i think he believes that europe is both divided and distracted is not going to be able to stand up to him as much. Charlie thank you, david. Why did remain lose . There is a number of reasons. They did not run a very Good Campaign to start with. Fear . E so it was about project fear is what it was called. Most people thought that would work. It did for a few months but in the last month or so of campaigning, the leave campaign turned it into basically a referendum about immigration and the influx of workers and syrians, etc. They used a lot of very misleading arguments but they themes to have worked seemed to have worked with the british public. There was a certain level of complacency on the part of the establishment. Despite some of the polls, showing that leaving was winning. Most in the media and political establishment thought that when it came down to it, risk aversion and sheer caution would persuade enough people to vote remain. Theyd get a lot of votes but lose narrowly. It seemed a lot of remain people stayed at home. There was a differential turn out high turnout in leave areas, low turnout in remain areas and it all added up to a lose. Charlie would you agree, lionel . Howlwould just, this was a against modern civilization. It is shocking in a country that is open, open trade. As david was saying weve been an american ally arguing for liberal and stabilization. That has thrown it into reverse. What is also tells you that the eliteolitan daily people in the big cities are out , of touch with the rest of the country. People who felt marginalized. Fear of immigration as opposed to real immigration. A lot of people who voted out actually were not touched by immigration. These constituencies, people who felt out of touch with the government voted leave. Is a lot ofy mind how people just feel, left behind by globalization. Weve tended to think, people in the big cities, a city like london with it Financial Center where we have lots we have 500,000 french People Living in london. Were comfortable with this. But other communities feel neglected, marginalized. The middle is being squeezed. Particularly after the financial crisis. This is a political lag of influence after the financial crisis and i think in that respect, there are lessons to the candidates, particularly mr. Trump, ahead of the november president ial election. Charlie speak to the Economic Impact to the Global Economy because of this. The first term, the shortterm impact is pretty obvious. Youve seen that in the decline of stock markets around the world. Its going a big hit to british growth. Weve already heard several Large Companies say theyre going to move jobs out of britain because theyre less useful there in a britain outside of the European Union. And theres going to be a spillover impact on the European Union. It is interesting that stock market have fallen more in europe than they have in britain. That is fear of what i call political contagion. You saw the netherlands and france use the brexit vote as a refund up for we should have a vote too. In france, the sentiment for leaving the eu is Even Stronger than was in Great Britain. The final point is the impact on the entire world. I think in a year or two well have worked our way there out shortterm impact on sentiment , the shortterm impact on the stock market, but we have talked how this is a reflection and point move away from globalization. If we have higher barriers to the move of goods and products, less free trade, that is ultimately a slower growing world. Charlie will that happen, though . In other words thats a very good question and what ive found interesting about brexit, its been a test for those of us as people tend to see what their priors were. If you were a liberal you saw it as a in globalization and the power of inequality. I thought it was interesting that within of the vote, you saw hours Boris Johnson, the former mayor of london and run of the and one of the leaders of the leave movement say no, this was not a vote against immigration. In fact, we still think that britons and europeans should be free to work in each others countries. Whether this will be the big turning point in globalization depends on what happens in the next three or four terms. Months. What are the terms by which britain negotiates it separation from the rest of the European Union. If it turns out that whoever replaces David Cameron tries to come back with something similar to what we have now, we may look back on this and say, perhaps this was not the big deal it seems like right now. But we do not know. And we dont know how election upcoming in germany and the netherlands, how they will respond. Charlie is Boris Johnson the next Prime Minister of Great Britain . I dont know. He is certainly a strong favorite at this stage. Watch out for louisa may. Soft spoken, and shes been she is a real hardliner on immigration. She has been warning for a number of years that theyre working many immigrants coming into the country, including the European Union, and something had to be done. Been the one in closer political touch. I would say one thing about gregs argument. I think its important to not draw premature conclusions but theres a big point here that this will not be resolved, this crisis, and a number of weeks or months. We do not know we wont know , what kind of british plan there is until the next british Prime Minister is chosen by september and then its going to take at least two years to negotiate a deal with the European Union. Whether theres 27 countries that are going to have a say. Charlie do you expect to see other countries take this path . Im not even confident britain is going to take this path. Charlie you are not . I am not. I think the chances of brexit actually going through is not much more than 5050 at this stage. Theres been so Much Movement in the markets and prominent leave people, the former editor of the sun, now he is having second thoughts and he is fearful of the future. I think if we had the referendum again this week it would go down quite heavily. Charlie the fact that David Cameron said he didnt want to have a part of that. Hes playing a strange game. He is trying to generate maximum chaos as far as i can see. He was very clever to resign immediately, because it basically said, we are not going to revoke article 50. He could have done what he promised and respect the will of the people, i will do it they say. He did not vote article 50. He said, i will resign in three months time. That threw the whole political system in chaos for three months and gave people a chance to sort of think again, i think. Im not saying i know whats going to happen. Its complete chaos but there could easily be a new general election. Could be a new leader on the general election. Burning on a remain ticket. Get a lot of support from the business community. I just do not think that this game is finished. Charlie do you disagree . John, i agree with you on so many things, but not this. Not quite. There is method in this supposed madness. The reason that David Cameron did not invoke the article 15 of the lisbon treaty is because that would be irrevocable. That would set in motion the chain of circumstances where we do withdraw. What hes done now is say right, im going to be Prime Minister for a while but now were not going to have a second referendum. He cant say that. There would be people in the streets. So what he has done is open up a gap. Listen to Angela Merkel of germany. She said, it is ok. It is up to the brits to decide when to invoke article 50. Be a period of reflection, a period of time where we work out what kind of deal we want. Meanwhile if the markets crash, if theres a reaction in recession in britain, maybe then people will come to their senses and say we need to have a general election or Something Like that where a new government , comes up with a new plan and john may be right we might ask , for our membership back. Theres a vote in ireland about the expansion of the treaty that governs the European Union. Theres a little bit of a negotiation to satisfy their concerns, the irish concerns, and they put it to a second vote and it passed. Thats one reason why you shouldnt leap to too many conclusions right now. I agree with lionel. Theres no way you can ignore the referendum. There was a vote for it. So, what i am saying its going , to unleash such powerful forces, that we really do not know where things are heading. Lets say that Boris Johnson wins the election and becomes the Prime Minister. Does he have a mandate now to take britain out of the e. U. Without a further general election . I think a lot of people in parliament, not just liberal democrats would say he needs to go to the country and get a mandate himself. The former Prime Minister said that in Parliament Today and David Cameron didnt knock him down so i think there is the , real possibility of another evenal election before we , of anotherle 50 general election in which case that would be a refund up on the result. Charlie if Boris Johnson is a candidate, there would be a real question about his leadership. Yeah, could he actually bring all the tory party with him. He would agree to a general election if he was up against jeremy corbyn. He could probably beat him hands down. If its a new labour leader, maybe he wont want a new general election. The one thing i can say, charlie, because i had the privilege so to say of working alongside Boris Johnson when he was corresponded for the Daily Telegraph in brussels, and the one adjective that comes to mind is elastic. Charlie what would be your definition of elastic in this case . Boris johnson will do what he thinks is to his interests and when it comes to saying one day from another it will be very , elastic. John or greg alluded to this earlier. Hes now saying this campaign wasnt about immigration, the vote wasnt about immigration. This goes completely contrary to all of the leaflets, the slogans, where they were deliberately playing on peoples fears of immigration. So one of the reasons that tories are actually saying that Boris Johnson would be the best leader for the labour party, caused theid cameron election, they know that they will have to move back and abandon all positions that they have had, so who can do that pinache . Most Boris Johnson. Most panache . Boris johnson. Charlie i saw something on a bbc that suggested that at eaton and oxford, Boris Johnson was a bigger shining star than David Cameron. He still hasnt gotten over the fact that he only got a second class honors degree. And David Cameron got a first class honors degree. Charlie at oxford. The competition goes that far back . Its got serious history. They got warm both of them form both of them and Boris Johnson believes he is more capable than David Cameron. He is ambitious and i believe having known and talked to him about his position on europe for a number of years that hes not antieuropean. He likes to have his cake and eat it. Charlie greg, reflect more on terms of contagion here. I think one of the reasons youve seen people, especially here in the United States looking at the full election, have been so flummoxed by the result is trying to understand what it is in the populous that would drive them to this result. A lot of studies showed fairly clearly that brexit was going to leave 510 years from now and yet they voted for it anyway. When it comes to our fall election, for example, there are those on the left and right side that believe Donald Trumps policies would be bad for the country, especially on trade. But when you look at the result, from britain, it appears that a lot of voters dont care. Maybe the ones who never benefited from globalization so theyre not going to lose any sleep over casting a void for a candidate whos against globalization. And youve seen trump playing exactly that note. You know after the vote on , brexit he was saying my Campaign Like this campaign is a campaign against the elite. He gave a speech last week where he said that globalization has destroyed the middle class. I think those sorts of emotional words can have an effect that be thehat can override traditional debates we tend to have about whos going to make the economy stronger or raise middle class wages. One thing about trump, i take all the argument about how globalization arguments play into his favor. Hes certainly tapping into immigration. I think thats one big difference between the brexit vote and the u. S. Election. In the brexit vote you vote leave or remain. In the u. S. Election you vote donald trump or Hillary Clinton. It is a much bigger thing. Will you vote for donald trump or will you vote for leave . It is a personalized election. Charlie does it give him any momentum at all because of the notion that somehow the people who had been supporting him represent the hidden voter but , they have the same grievances as the people against government who voted to leave . Clearly donald trump is tapping into something. Hes had the most hellacious month of any politician i can remember, but he is still only five points behind. An average of seven or eight behinds points behind. Given whats happened in the last couple of months, thats pretty astonishing. Hes clearly got support. He is talking about issues in terms of trade and wage stagnation and in terms of immigration, which do not go over well in polite society, but they resonate well in working class and middle class areas. My point is that gives him a platform but it doesnt give him the credibility to jump over the platform. Charlie what do you think theyre saying in the Hillary Clinton campaign . , youthink they are saying can see that from their message, that we have to address the concerns hes raising. Every speech hillary gives she talks about the middle classes. Charlie who might lead the labour party if not the present leader . We have an old army general from afghanistan called ben jarvus. Many people will not be familiar with him, but hes someone to look at. Another person was a london mp, he did toy with the idea of running then abruptly pulled out. Hes somebody to watch. Charlie, thet say blairist crowd heirs of tony blair, its over for them. Its gone. Charlie thank you, greg, lionel, and john. And to david, who had to leave early. Back in a moment. Stay with us. Charlie the Supreme Court ancluded its term today in 53 decision, the justifies invalidated parts of a texas law that placed restrictions on a abortion clinics and also vacated the conviction of former Virginia Governor bob mcdonald. Joining me from washington, adam liptak, correspondent from the new york times. Were you surprised by this or not . Justice kennedy obviously was the swing justice. I was a little bit surprised. You could tell by doing a little bit of detective work that breyer was the likely author and once you knew that he would be the author, you knew it would be a proabortion right movement. But this is the biggest abortion it decision since 1922 1992. Strikes down two parts of a restrictive texas law but it reaffirms a law that makes it very hard or state to pass for any state to pass restrictions. Charlie tell us about the restrictions. Allotted two Different Things the law did two Different Things. One of them was to help Womens Health but they said it was a ruse as a way to shut down clinics. One of them required doctors to have admitting privileges at nearby hospitals which are hard to get and many say there no points in that because abortion is a safe procedure. Another restriction basically turned them into mini hospital, s, costing millions of dollars to do. Had the law been fully in place, it would have given the number of clinics down from about 40 to about 10. This decision means were probably going to be back at Something Like the 40 number fairly soon. Charlie and the decent . Dissent. Washe dissents, most of it technical about how some procedural bars hadnt gone through. That was mostly about what they wrote about. Justice thomas wrote this decision was bad not only the 1992t reaffirms decision planned parenthood , against casey, but because it also reimagined it, made it easier for courts to strike down abortion restrictions. That is something that class that was a bad thing. The chief justice said his charlie and the gov. Bob mcdonnell case . Adam it was surprising because it was unanimous. He hadnt taken the kind of official acts that would support a corruption conviction. Theres no question that the governor set up meetings for those benefactors. But the meetings alone were not good enough. You needed to actually intend to or agree to take some official action, and that narrows the corruption laws substantially. It also lets politicians engage in routine political favors for their constituents. That is probably why eight justices signed on to that decision. Charlie and mrs. Mcdonnells involvement . Adam this did not directly involved mrs. Mcdonnells conviction. It would very likely also serve to vacate her conviction. Charlie what do you do now . Adam i will write a wrapup article trying to make sense of the the eight justice court. Then i may take a vacation. I will say that for the most part the court muddled through, deadlocked not infrequently. It agreed on very narrow grounds, sometimes in cryptic decisions, in an effort to find consensus. But in two big cases, affirmative action and abortion, the court delivered two solid liberal victories which is not what you expect from the roberts court. Charlie it has been a pleasure having you on the show. The law is so important, the candidates for the presidency constantly remind us what is at stake. Charlie tegan and sara are here. They have spent the last 17 years creating music together. Everything from alt folk to indie rock to punk pop. They have been strong and open supporters of the Lgbt Community. Their latest album, love you to death, finds them putting complex lyrics over synthesized dance pop tracks. The l. A. Times says like so much of the best pop from prince to madonna to lady gaga it balances universality and specificity. It seems to reflect the personal experiences. Here they are performing their hit single, boyfriend, in our studio. Charlie it is a pleasure to have tegan and sara at this table for the first time. It started because of your parents watching my show early on. We signed our first record deal in the late 90s. We grew up in canada. What we ended up doing was sharing a hotel room and turning on the tv and we would watch you. Everything in time. It is a marathon not a sprint. Charlie but you have shifted in terms of the kind of music you wanted to do. Walk me through that. We only started playing music we were teenagers. We were reflecting a lot of the music we were listening to. It was more grunge and rock and punk pop. Music has changed a lot but our ability to reflect the things we like about we listen to, we have gotten better at that. Our production has reflected our interest in our confidence. We have turned more into a pop band. We are making pop music but were not pop stars. The worst thing would be for one of us to grow uninterested in it. We only each other our best. We are very invested in trying to reach of a broader audience. There are not a lot of queer women in the mainstream. We are queer. We saw an opportunity. We were getting a lot of support from mainstream artists. Charlie queer. Is that a term you like . We like that better than lesbian. She said lesbian makes it sound like we have an affliction. When i was in 10th grade and i did High School Psychology class i remember very clearly being given these handouts about mental illness. One of the ones that was crossed out was homosexuality. I am in the early years of me understanding that i was very different. I knew my sexuality was different. I remember being humiliated by reading this. Dont worry, it used to be a disease but weve changed our minds. I was very affected by that. Those words stayed with me. Queer is a reclaiming of sexuality and gender it is more of a broader identity. Charlie it goes back generations in common usage. We are reclaiming a words that still to this day can sound very difficult for a lot of people. It is a word that is used against gay people. It is a way to talk more broadly about identity. Charlie how close are you . Is every instinct the same . I think developmentally because we had so many of the same things happen. Charlie both genetically and environment way. Sure. We would say our relationship is a bit like a marriage. Youve been married to someone for 35 years you can read the thoughts. [laughter] music is our child. Charlie what do you like the same thing . We have a general area that we both fit into. We sit on either extremes. I like electronic music, sarah liked very obscure electronic music. Charlie are you competitive with each other . We have come to terms with what we wouldve described in our relationship as competition. It made us feel like people were trying to divide us. There was an instincts to say that we were not competitive. But we push each other. I am one of the few people who can say to her singer this way or you can do better with those lyrics. Sarah said that she spent 80 hours recording it again and again and again. We had a song on our last record called closer the did very well, i wrote it in 22 minutes. I got zero comments back. I pulled on my keyboard and i said whatever. I started writing the hook. I said to sarah and she wrote me right back. She said finish it. That means she likes it. I write more than she does. She spends too much time on it. I enjoy the time. She sometimes wants to complete it and that gives her satisfaction. My satisfaction is actually in the process. Charlie you have good fortune to open for a lot of big people. We started our career opening for neil young. He is a genius. It was very informative eight weeks. That was our first tour. Charlie he is a good friend of mine. We wouldnt have the career we did unless Elliott Roberts came to see us in vancouver and he said you can sign with a major label but doesnt happen here that might be it. You are great songwriters but you need time to develop. He also said you are 20 years old. What you know about love . You need to live and experience things. Charlie rose some he said you shouldnt write a novel like war and peace until you have experienced life and sadness and relationships and tragedy. I was like what you mean i dont know about life . So we chose this path. Signing with an indie label. Touring with neil young was, the way that we have built our touring organization that our management and infrastructure of our career. We get that all based on what we saw neil young doing. The way we perceive his tour of the dynamics between, he had his family out on tour. It really appeals us. We said if we can build something even a fraction of what he has that will be the way to do it. Charlie you have close relationship with your fans. Part of the social media departments other things. We grew up listening to bruce springsteen. One of our favorite records was his live album. He can tell the stories. We started playing music we had maybe eight or 10 songs and we had to fill two hours so we would talk and tell stories. There was pressure on us to entertain. In terms of the relationship with our audience, we understood very quickly that we had taken this slower path. We chosen the path of development. We had to create a relationship with our audience. Maybe our audience was small, only 50 people. We need to make sure those 50 people came back. It may just feel a bit less lonely. During those years where people go to college or suddenly have this freedom from the parents and they are surrounded by people like them. We were alone. Were taking the Greyhound Bus and playing shows late at night. Strangers. It was like our college years. We were trying to connect to these people. We want them to be our friends. We wanted them to be part of our inner circle. It was quite genuine. As we developed and got older as openly queer women, a lot of the lgbt people being reflected back to us in our audience. We hear these incredible stories about how we make them feel better about who they were. More comfortable about coming out. Sarah became very protective of our audience. These people are very special in this community. We need to make sure we keep this very safe. We cant lose that connection. In every conversation about everything we do our audience is number one. Charlie what percentage of your audience comes from Lgbt Community . Its too dark i cant see them. With radio play and bigger tv stuff that we have had over the last five or 10 years, weve seen the audience diversify. We love seeing all different types of people. She is right. Theres something we cherish about the kids came from the community. We pay a lot of attention to them. We are looking at night tonight. We were just in london. I remember thinking, there are a lot of dudes in that audience. Even older white men. Bearded guys. There was a guy with a big beard in london. At first it was a lot of people who look like us. Charlie they talk about what you learned from springsteen. Have a conversation with the audience. It is an opportunity to share about our lives. And help develop a relate a relationship with the audience. But even for our audience it is a chance to get to know us of the better. This all started before social media. We are presenting one image. Sarah and i are very much about creating a 360 degree view of who we are. I want people to understand that we have put everything into the music. Im not up on stage to get rich and famous. Im up on stage because i feel i have something to say. I feel an intense purpose about it. I feel passionate about music. I also feel passionate about traveling the world and understanding people. This is a family band. I dont want to get up on stage and say whats up . Some people do that. Thats fine. That works. Some people cannot talk on stage. Just dont say anything. We are not hurting for something say. Sometimes she gets going during the show and i say, you understand we have to play songs tonight. Charlie is one of you more politically active than the other . We are both very quickly politically active. Very sensitive to making sure that we write songs that are not necessarily political. Without being too judgmental, we also see it as we feel compelled to talk about the things that are important to us. We see going on in the world. It is more than just tweeting. We belong to a community that is active. We try to help people. Try to raise awareness about certain things. That gives us a lot of purpose. It makes us feel really good. We are not politicians. Charlie how many hits has boyfriend received . Boyfriend is an interesting song. It is done very well for us on streaming. Millions and millions. It just hit the top 10 in canada. On radio. Streaming is very different because it is hard to figure out is that someone listen to the song 400 times or is it actually 11 Million People. It is so confusing. Is it just my mother pressing play over and over . This is the first album where we are trying to figure out what it really means. How many people are really listening to this thing based on streaming. We dont know. Charlie i suspect a lot. You do have a social media presence. We are very into social media. We came up a social media was really blooming. We couldnt get press or tv. Or radio. Social media was the way of making our tv shows. We had interview shows. We were always create content for our audience. We wanted people to see us and the only way we know how to do that was to make her own content. We love social media. Charlie talk about that girl. I wrote that about saying oh no i am that girl. I was making myself out to be the victim in relationships even though i was the one in control. I mined other relationships for content not thinking about those peoples feelings. I felt like a bad guy. My life is very complicated. I dont feel it anymore. I need to make room im not controlling anymore. I was was the needy when he tried to get attention. Charlie faint of heart. I hope that people here that and hear the voice of saying no matter who you love you dont need to validated for anyone else. Boyfriend is just a pop song about trying to get someone to nail it down. It is my beyonce, put a ring on it. We are in an exclusive relationship. That is all that song is about. Charlie dying to know. That is one of our very first true collaborations. It is about getting broken up with and having a broken heart. It is also about social media. You look at your ex and their pictures. White knuckles is about my relationship with tegan. The time when i was in my early 20s i decided to move to montreal to i might as well have been moving to iceland. It seemed very far. I said i have decided that i really wanted to move to montreal. I didnt want to break up the band but i knew if i can find some independence if i didnt find my own life my own stride i wasnt going to be in the band. At 23 years old. This is like couples therapy where you look your partner and say not true. It was very good for us. Hang onto the night is about anxiety. Worrying about the world. My midlife crisis on. I feel like im always having a crisis. Im 35. Is it the lighting in here . Am i aging . The album is brandnew. We think it is very good. Is the most critically acclaimed record of our career. Weve gotten some bad reviews in the past. Everything has been so positive recently. It got us on the charlie rose show. Charlie thank you very much for being here. Much success with this. Love you to death. Thank you for joining us. See you next time. Tonight, youre fuel for my fire you cant stop desire, oh oh oh oh stop desire, oh oh oh i tried, but youre fuel to my fire you cant stop desire, oh oh oh, oh stop desire, oh oh oh, oh right where i want you, back against the wall trust when i promise, never let you fall right where i want you, back against the wall you can trust me, ill never let you fall tonight, youre fuel for my fire you cant stop desire, oh oh oh oh stop desire, oh oh oh i tried, but youre fuel to my fire you cant stop desire, oh oh oh, oh stop desire, oh oh oh, oh tonight, youre fuel for my fire you cant stop desire, oh oh oh oh stop desire, oh oh oh oh market you are watching bloomberg west. Lets begin with a check of your first word news. The death toll stands at 28 halloween several suicide bombings at istanbuls airport. Another 60 people were wounded. Three suicide bombers carried out the attack. President obama tells National Public radio donald trump wants to use the same tack asked that led to the uks brexit vote. President obama there is a xenophobia and antiimmigrant sentiment that is splashing up not just in Great Britain but throughout europe that has some parallels with what mr. Trump has been trying to stir up here