Make money in mobile. All right, that is all coming up over the next hour, but first, lets get headlines from bloombergs su keenan. Google named former ford ceo he to their board of directors. Mulally was appointed july 9. He will serve on googles audit committee. Meanwhile, yahoo is promising a return of cash to shareholders from at least half of any proceeds of its sale of alibaba. Yahoo also reported revenue that missed analyst estimates. Shares in yahoo are rallying an afterhours, and finally, intel, the worlds biggest chipmaker, has thirdquarter sales the top that topped some predictions, and that is fueling a stronger rebound in the personal computer market. Those are the top headlines. Pimm, back to you. All right, thank you, and more on alan mulally and his move to google. Matt miller joins us. God, here like, oh, my is going from a car company in detroit, about as old economy as you can get to google headquarters in california, which is about as new as economy gets for people your age or my age. Really it makes sense if you alqan wasout the way talking, that ford is about Mobility Solutions and bringing people together. They are going to be part of the new way that people get around. It is not always about one person in his or her car but whole bunch of different systems. He was saying these things a lot. Now i am finally saying i cant believe i didnt get it in the first place. You did not check this box before . The board of apple, the board of google . I asked him all these things all the time and he doesnt tell me because he is true blue. He is on the level. This is not a guy who leaks things to the press or tells his buddy certain things before he tells other people. That is not the right way to do business. You couldnt tell anyway. He didnt even give me a heads up. Not a wave of the hand . No, in fact, i was emailing him this morning, sitting at fords manhattan dealership getting the oil changed on my truck, and i said alan, what are you doing . And he said i am working on my Social Security benefits, which i am starting to think may not have been entirely true. It depends on how much he gets at 67. 5. You never know. In any case it makes sense , now that you think about it. Driverless cars. Driverless cars are part of the Mobility Solution of the future. Alan and he are very close. He helped save the familys most important asset. Its interesting to see and i think its interesting that when you think about it, at the very basic, larry page and alan mulally are both designers. Ally from boeing. And the you know who else knows about this . Cory johnson. Our editor at large. Cory, does this mean good things for Silicon Valley . They get alan mulally to join the board of google. 3450 a month is the maximum amount someone can get in Social Security according to my recent research on google. I wonder if matt asked him how he was finding his Social Security information. That mightve been the clue. For mulally, its interesting, not just because he did such Amazing Things with ford but , because a lot that happened at boeing happened under his development. While the rollout costs some issues, he was long gone before that, and i think the development of that and the market for that plane is something he gets the credit for as well. So a widely respected leader. Googles self driving car gets a lot of attention, but their efforts to put android in the dashboard are going to be the biggest effort in the nearterm and maybe forever, understanding how Car Companies think about developing the dashboard and how other Software Makers could get inside that and are in deed doing so is going to be invaluable. When you get inside the automobile, is yahoo something you want to look at at some kind of Navigation System . You mentioned google and alan mulally. We got some results today from the company. We got Earnings Results today. This is one of those great times you can really distinguish between what is happening with the stock and what is happening with the business. There are a lot of machinations. Machinations. Machinations, indeed. Marissa mayer changed the deal, convinced alibaba to change the deal. She would only be required to sell half the stake in ali baba. That means they will continue to receive a benefit from owning their alibaba share. And yet, they will still be able to return a big chunk of change, and investors are looking for that boost, so they are getting a little bit of their cake and why would they have to sell shares in alibaba to give the money back to shareholders . Couldnt they use that as collateral and take out a deck contract with their investors and pay them back that way . I talked to the chief Financial Officer of yahoo many times about this. 10 goldman. Dman, and ken said they looked at every way possible to modify it. The big concern is the taxes. They have come up with a solution. This is a better solution than what they had going forward. So this is an agreement between yahoo and alibaba. That they are only going to sell half of the stake. Right. And the stock is up after hours because of it. But if you separate the alibaba machination from the business of yahoo , what you see is the business of yahoo is not doing wonderfully well. Their operating margins are quite low. Their operating profits are quite low. Their revenue continues to increase. They spent over a billion dollars in acquisitions in the last year. Which is helping the top line of the company. It is helping the sale and revenue, but its not translating into Great Results in terms of earnings. Thats very disconcerting. They have taken a lot of the money, the cash cushion that Marissa Mayer had when she took this job to years ago, and spent that in order to gain better revenues. Can we turn your attention to ibm and apple. You talk about increasing revenue. They have new applications for what . Enterprise customers . Business customers . This is another one where the headline is ibm and apple using the best of their Watson Technology i dont want them to use the worst. Of their Watson Technology. Indeed. According to sources familiar, by the way. But the big deal here is not the app. Its the fact that you will have all of these ibm sales people and Service People on their feet on the street knocking on client stores and saying you have to check this out. Its an ipad, and iphone. Corporate customers are going to access this dont they download stuff from the loud . I thought everybody was in the cloud. Its ultimately about devices and selling highmargin devices. They are going to penetrate the Corporate Market in ways they never have before. That starts today. I think this appleibm relationship is about that. They have a partnership that i think it is all about the sales of products, not about developing apps. All right, so i am wondering, matt miller, if you can connect that. If you have the app in the automobile which was produced by ford, you have more of these, the crm application, put it right on the dashboard of the car. And the car is your office. And then eventually, i am going to put on some oculus rift goggles where i dont have to drive anywhere but i can do business with everybody in the same space, virtual reality. I dont know. Maybe, cory . The interesting thing, i think going back to google and , Alan Mulallys move there. Remember, he was very close to Steve Ballmer and microsoft actually supplied ford, and still does, with all of their in car app gadgetry. And now its almost like he is going to a competitor. Competition is a way of life in Silicon Valley. Is a way of life in Silicon Valley. They are using microsoft operating systems. Ford has Microsoft Office and Microsoft Windows all over the company. Increasingly, youre going to see these companies overlapping and competition is the name of the game. You think hulu and pied piper will get together . I dont think that will be the case. Well see. Any idea how much money they are going to commit to this venture . Yes its been conspicuously , absent from the press release. They havent committed what theyre going to spend. The focus of the press release is apps in development. But i think the key is to have ibm sales. You know, there is this thing that has developed in Silicon Valley, and we have talked a lot about it on street smart. The ipad really change things. Executives walk up to their i. T. Guys and say i have to find a way to use my phone but you are going to make this ipad work on our corporate systems. But what didnt happen there was a development of Corporate Software were you had software really coming from providers developing whatever an individual corporation might have in terms of its own proprietary software, its own proprietary Sales Management software and so on. Written for the ipad. Its bad news for blackberry if the ipad is available. From the army of salespeople everyday from imb trying to sell this stuff that come from ibm everyday trying to sell this. I think ultimately that is going to be the big benefit of apple breaking into the corporate side of things, which goes all the way back to prejohn scully when getting into the Corporate Market was the biggest failure of apple and the biggest success of ibm we will see if they can actually bring the price down if they can do that. They have taken an upper niche. Right . Its almost a luxury product. Compared to the other offerings, from microsoft, from hp, and it will be interesting to see if they are willing to stomach the thin margins. I want to thank you very much matt miller, bloomberg news. , also thank you to cory johnson, bloomberg editoratlarge, joining us from san francisco. All right coming up, i am going , to introduce you to a billionaire who is behind tony petrone tequila. We will talk about his latest venture in the music industry. This is taking stock on bloomberg. John paul dejoria cofounded John Mitchell hair Care Products in 1970. He sold products door to door. Out of this automobile. Now the company is worth over 900 million. That is not enough for this billionaire. He wants to add music mogul to his resume. His new Wireless Phone service is rock mobile. It is partnering with monster to create highend headphones as well. John paul dejoria, thank you for being here. America still works. Clearly, something is working. You have got to start by explaining what is this new rock mobile. Rock mobile will go on any smartphone, whether it is an android or iphone. It makes no difference. What it is, for music lovers, it is a dream come true. It gives you access to one of the Worlds Largest databases of music, where you can download on all of your devices as much as you want. There is no limit. There are over 22 million songs to pick from. Just as much as you want. In addition to that you get all , the phone calls you want, all the texting you want, all the data that you want. No contracts. Whatever it may be with your phone number. Its a new way of doing things where its allinone. Very, very unique. And its 49. 95 a month. 49. 95 a month. Thats it. Many people have phones but dont have music. They cant afford it. Those who have music complain that their bills are so high. With this, the family can have all the music they want, and there is no additional cost. So when we look at this, partnering with people, and there are a few moving parts. You have a great business show. We found a way to pay for this along the way so that we are not beholden to anybody. No loans are out there. All the technology between the state of washington and everybody in the united kingdom. We have it all. We own it all. We are able to reduce the price with fewer people, and we have the highest technology. Its similar to Paul Mitchell. We launched the finest hair Care Products with little to no money. This costs more money, but petrone the same way. Lets sit back and explain how is it without actually owning the network that you are able now to offer, i think it is 4g service . Very good question. There are four Major Networks in the United States. To we have already partnered with. So by using them, depending on which network you want to go with, they get their piece of the pie. The record companies, of course, Music Companies i had records in my day. They get their piece no matter who has it. It allows them and the artist to make more money. But on top of that, which i love to talk about i am giving to , certain charities four percent of the gross for a year. To help make the world a better place to live. A lot of people say that is stupid because i am doing that before i make any money. It will be a while before you get your money back. But we found in life that by giving along the way, even if it means you get your profits later its a good way to do business. ,down the road in a year or two, our base will be so big that i will get the money back eventually. And i will do some good in the meantime. Did you have to go out and sign specific agreements with all of the Music Companies . We certainly did. Of course, we had to, so they could have their royalties and, in turn, give their artists their royalties. It is interesting talking about artists. I will talk about some, some country and western guys. They like helping out tennessee. They are part of my four percent of the gross. It is going to charities to help change the world. Its part of the music industry. And their songs will get played and they will get whatever they , get for their songs, but on top of it all, they want to lend a helping hand. A lot of musicians are the same way. We will have more of the conversation and more on what he is doing to change the world next on taking stock. \ this is taking stock on bloomberg. Im pimm fox. I am joined by john paul dejoria, who is the cofounder of Paul Mitchell and also of petrone spirits. Of rockw also a founder mobile. Your music. Thats online. Youre offering that is part of a Telephone Service with data and so on. Youre also an entrepreneur when it comes to distilled spirits. How did you connect all these things . Well, petrone is very i want to mention on rock mobile also, you can use it for free of charge for two weeks. See how the compressed music sounds even a much better. Free for two weeks. Free for two weeks. No phone calls, just all the music, free. As far as the marketing of this goes, have you done this all yourself, or are you connected with a larger Marketing Team . Its all underground. Our team is a small team. We believe in few moving parts. We use social media to spread it. If you can get everything you month,or 49 95 cents a phone calls, texting, data youre going to want to tell , friends about it. How did petrone tequila turn itself into a global brand . At one time it was underground. We were hoping that someone would pay the money for this highquality tequila. Because it was so expensive to make, we went doortodoor selling it. That was the marketing. You were right. I went to spagos in beverly puck, to barsg and restaurants saying try this out. Or i would go to a bartender and say i will buy you a shot of tequila. I would say, check this out. They would say what is this . I would say this is the new wave of tequila. At Paul Mitchell, we would bring in 3000 top hairdressers from all over the United States and the world and give them free petrone tequila. The key to underground marketing is if you have the highest quality product bar none, you want to be in the repeat business, not the selling business. It has to be so good that people repeat it. Well, as you know, in 25 short years, petrone became the worlds number one tequila. We are in 25 countries. I think was also appreciated is that every race, color and creed is treating themselves to petrone. Its not just one particular group. Its a world blend for all people to enjoy. We did the same thing with Paul Mitchell. It is not a color of skin. It is types of hair. You mentioned quickly going doortodoor, actually showing up. That seems to be a hallmark of the success you created. I learned that in my early 20s selling encyclopedias doortodoor with no appointments. It works. We started Paul Mitchell that way, beauty salon to beauty salon. Petrone, the same way it was launched. You have to come back and tell us about nascar racing as well. I know your family is into it. Alexis is the world champion. I know, your daughter. Thank you. Founder and chairman of the board of john Paul Mitchell systems and the cofounder of rock mobile, john paul dejoria. This is taking stock on bloomberg. Im pimm fox. Today Johnson Johnson raised , its earnings forecast for the second consecutive quarter. They reported 21 growth in their drugs business, and it is now the biggest unit of the company. All day my cohost carol massar has been at the Company Headquarters in new brunswick, new jersey, and she joins me now. Carol . As you know, the company did come out with earnings. I was just going to say despite the results, 21 growth , as you just mentioned. Shares of Johnson Johnson didnt react positively. They were down. Yes, they were, in fact, pimm. You are right. They did beat the top and bottom lines. A couple of things might be going on. The company did boost its forecast for 2014. Some think they maybe didnt boost it enough. You have that going on. There is also some concern that the Companies New blockbuster hepatitis c drug has done really well in terms of growing revenue, specifically, that it could be facing some competition later in the year and there may be some disappointment or concerns about that. So maybe a combination of that could be at play. Pimm . Carol, in speaking with the chief executive, what did they put the emphasis on, acquisitions or growth . Well, it is interesting. A little bit of both is safe to say. Pharmaceuticals are certainly a bright spot. We saw revenue grow 21 in the quarter, pimm, and i did speak to alex gorski, the chairman and ceo about the strong growth of the pharmacy. Listen up. We are very proud of the transportation in the pharmaceutical business. When we look back over the past couple of years and the way they have been able to focus, things are fundamentally changing peoples lives and helping them to live longer lives. That is what most is important. Secondly, all of our teams have done a great job, whether it is getting reimbursement or working with new compounds in the field. Our head of research talked about it today. You are very aggressive in terms of going after new products. We are, and at the end of the day, we want the best thing and we are very gnostic about where it can come from. Where we can make a value, that is where we make a difference. Lets look at the consumer area. We know for a lot of years, a lot of problems. You guys have made a lot of big steps to improve that. We talked about that as well. Where are you in terms of dealing with recalls . One of our Top Priorities was to remediate some of our overthecounter products, and we are meeting all of our commitments. We are getting products back on the shelf. Are we seeing a change from 2009 to when we had those 2010, massive recalls . Think we are. We of seen a lot of important changes. We have gotten a lot of more standardized. Even more centralized in some of those areas where we are applying common systems and checks and balances across the organization, and i think were seeing the results of that hard work and effort. In terms of strategy any kind , of big acquisitions on the horizon for you guys . I cant share them with you. But we are always looking out for new technologies, new products that are going to make a big difference for patients and consumers, for businesses that might be complementary. As we thought that one was to our existing orthopedics does this, or that perhaps expand our regional region. You have a lot of money on the balance sheet. I know you guys are boosting buybacks at this point. But i am just curious what else you might do with it. Its very important to provide a dividend to our shareholders. There is a lot of shareholders that depend on us for that dividend. We look for ways to reinvest in the business. We try to buy back shares, but, again, we really try to manage for the longterm. Alex gorski, the chairman and ceo of Johnson Johnson. Pimm, you did mention the stock was down today, but the stock is up almost 13 on the year. That is double the s p 500. These bandaids have your name on them. Spongebob squarepants. I will have to bring it home for you. Wonderful. Thank you very much. Carol massar, my radio cohost. Lets move from Johnson Johnson to the overthecounter market which can sometimes seem like the wild west of wall street. Now, take the case of a stock called think. It shot up 36 thousand percent even though the company has no revenue or assets. He got caught in a squeeze. They say a lack of Regulatory Oversight cost him his job. Joining us is finance reporter zeke faux who has been covering the story. Why dont you detail this and what happened . Its one of many Dormant Companies sitting on the market. It barely traded, and when it did, it traded for a nickel or six cents. Now suddenly last month, it , jumped up to two dollars and it caught the attention of logs, people on twitter. People started talking about it. And at that point, it got the attention of professional traders also. Tom, when did you spot it and how did you know it was not the next facebook . A friend of mine saw the stock go from six cents to two dollars. Anytime you see a stock jump like that, you take a look at it. There has to be something going on, and it went to six dollars, and you see it has one employee, 39, and you wonder how they are allowing this in 2014. Well, so did you contact , regulators . The day happened . It went from five dollars to 15, from six cents, i saw that it was a complete scam, a complete joke. I sent to the sec a fax that said i have been doing this for years, and this has to be the biggest scam ive ever seen. Please take a look at this. I didnt get a response, so i went to cnbc. Later that day, they put it on tv and alerted the public to stay away from this until we could find out about it. But you didnt stay away from the stock. Right . What did you do . As a market maker, youre in there to make markets. Youre there to provide liquidity. Thats our job. If every market maker pulled out, that stock would have been 100, the public would have done buying it at 100. We are there to maintain an orderly market. This was not a fair game. This was not even a company, and it had to be stopped. Was there a demand from your Customer Base . There was demand, whether they were reading it on blogs or they were looking at charts. They dont even know what the company does. No, i understand that, but in other words, did they come to you to buy the stocks . Somebody than some sold it also. So you ended up becoming one of the customers . No, i did not become a customer. If you go from six cents to 20 and you are a market maker, you are either buying that stock or selling that stock. As the stock goes higher, you are selling to people who are buying it. You have no choice. You have no choice. You are either buying or selling it. You have to make the market. You have to be in that stock. How much did this cost you . I really dont want to say. It was not a tremendous amount. My company did a great job of cutting it. Its a great firm with great people. They are good with risk. Its unfortunate it happened to them. But i am here so that it doesnt happen again. Because this should not happen. Because if you see a stock going from six cents to 20, and they say they have 39 in the bank and they have one employee, thats either a hell of an employee or something is going wrong. Its worth 6 billion . You tell me. Zeke, what has been the response of regulators . Like the security and Exchange Commission . The sec does what it normally does in the situation. Which is, eventually they , suspend trading in the stock saying that there is not enough information out there. They didnt say, necessarily, anything bad was going on, but presumably they are investigating now and they are going to look at who was trading the stock and whether people were trading it with their friends to create the appearance of a rising market which can be a pot part of sometimes a penny stock manipulation. What about having an obligation to make a market in the stock . I mean, you are not under an obligation to make a market in everyone . Yes, as a market maker, i mean tom, you can say more. Were you under your obligation to make a market in it . I couldve dropped out. Everybody could have dropped out. Then the public would have been paying 100 for the stock. We stayed in and made a market so that there was a safeguard. We did our job. Possibly somebody else did not do their job. We did our job. If we dont make markets. If i pulled out if all the other , guys pull out, the stock is 100. When that thing opens up, you will be lucky if it is a dollar. So we were doing our jobs by still maintaining the markets, but it was not a fair game. Describes iske true, and you had people selling and buying the stock among themselves in order to drive up the price would that be , something you have not seen before . I mean, i am sure i worked on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange for five years and i did not trade. I was a sales trader. I have been trading foreign stocks. I have not traded one of these stocks in 15 years. So it has been a while since i have seen it, but it does not take much to figure out it was a scam. What about stocks that trade by appointment only . I dont trade those, but you can look at the companies and see that they have more than 39 in the bank. Unless the company came up with a cure for cancer, have you seen a stock go from six cents to 20 . Zeke, what about making sure if you trade these things that they are real companies. This traded on over the which doesd the otc it. Their policy is buyer beware. They mark stocks and say this stock does not have enough information available, but they will not stop trading for that reason. So that means there are quite a few stocks that trade overthecounter where eventually it is found that the stock was being manipulated. All right, i want to thank you very much for the ongoing story, and i want to thank my guest and also bloombergs zeke faux. And now, just plain genius. It is a subject on a crowd Source Knowledge website. Details. You are going to meet the cofounders of genius. They just receive 40 million in new funding. This is taking stock on bloomberg. I am pimm fox. All right the internet can give , and the internet can take away. The website genius acts as a knowledge database. It was created by contributions through annotations. We will explain what that is. It was started with song we are asked and added references, news and history. Previously the company was called wrapped genius. It has attracted notable investors. Genius raised 40 million in funding. The cofounders join me now. Good to have you with me. Tom, thank you very much. How do you describe genius to someone who doesnt necessarily want to know the details of every rap lyric out there . How would you describe what the website, what the business is about . We were just talking about this. And yes. So it should be easy. Yes, it should be super easy. What started as a site for people to dissect rap lyrics and break down the meaning of rap lyrics evolved into a platform of people breaking down text of all types. Before there were 10 rap songs on the site, there was a song by bob dylan. Before, there were 50 songs on the side, and then a poem by Emily Dickinson did a few songs in french. Now there are hundreds of thousands of text from sports to history to news and science, tv and movie scripts where people like to break down the meaning lineack stories of these by line. How did they make these online . In the beginning, it was our friends, but we soon found out that to get knowledge from across the world you need people across the world to contribute. For everyone to sign up and contribute it works like , wikipedia but there are points. When you sign up you have zero , iq. As we call it. You gain prestige, points, privilege and power. So you get powerful. Do you get profitable . How do you make money with Something Like this . Great question. Right now, our goal is to become part of the fabric of the internet. You break down text, so if you read an article in the New York Times or lebrons statement on espn. That is our goal. As far as making money, we want to allow people to buy in on high annotation. So, for example someone would want to buy the annotations to shakespeare if that is what they wanted. Shakespeare, or the seven ages of man speech. Shakespeare talks about the pants you wear when you are in your justice or your old man phase of life. So maybe someone wanted to buy an annotation that says a modern justice would wear and one. Shorts. Maybe they would. What about Something Like popular lyrics from a band called rum dmc. What about it . I mean, well, how would you get the lyrics and how would you go through the annotation process . What would you learn. If you looked uglier works in a song by ron run dmc . You would learn all sorts of stuff. It depends on what song you are reading. What genius is about is trying the connection. A run dmc song my reference another song in rap. It might reference some part of culture. Maybe a references the bible. You go to the bible and you see the bible references some other its the rabbit hole of the internet. This was the whole idea of browsing. You realize two hours later you have spent an hour trying to figure out a particular line in a song. Sure, the context with text and culture. You can go to one thing and see that it is connected to all different other pieces of culture. All right, we are going to stay connected because we have more to talk about. More with the genius cofounders, ilan zechory and tom lehman. That is next on taking stock this is taking stock on bloomberg. I am pimm fox. All right, rap genius has changed its name to just genius. The cofounders of join me. Lets talk about money for a moment. I was reading the details of how you managed to land 40 million, i have got to say, like i said earlier, the web giveth and the web taketh. What do you mean taketh . Well, because you had a third cofounder who was part of your team. The internet can sometimes be a place where people put up great stuff and then they can put up stuff that can get them into trouble. You are referring to our cofounder who is no longer at the company. He helped us build the company. He was instrumental in turning the site from nothing into what it is today, which is a giant, Magical Community full of enthusiastic people working on it. But he, what you are referring to, i guess, he left on a controversial document, the manifesto of elliott roger, and his annotations were offensive to a lot of people, and that was a web taketh moment for us. But we miss him. Well, i bring it up, tom because it does highlight that that everybody can contribute, you do need to be a little bit thoughtful about it, and, obviously some people will , take offense and certain things are considered out of bounds. Absolutely. The site has two functions. One is to give you the meaning of everything. The community annotates together, and the Community Comes together and tries to come up with the best annotation. The other is when people can come up with annotations that not subject to review by the community, and we call those verified annotations and if you are a public figure they would have to stay up. And we are bound to be that sort of platform. Of course if youre going to be , a founder of the website, i work at the website, you cant represent yourself like that. But we want to be a place where contributions can be controversial. You will suffer the consequences. I went to pick up on that. Could that also apply to people in the political world, people that may use the website might put their speech up there and obviously people are going to annotate it, but you want to make sure you are being accurately portrayed . Absolutely, so the state of the union was one of the first nonmusical texts to get analyzed. The dream is to have people put together an encyclopedic explanation of what is going on, but then, below that, you have personalities who will come and have their name on it, so that will not be a wikipedia style of thing, but everybody will explain where they are coming from or ray acting to it otherwise. Reacting to it otherwise. 40 million in funding. What are you going to do with the money . Were based in new york. We are based in brooklyn and we are building a company. Are you are hiring. We are hiring the best people. We are very picky about the people we hire. We are still a very small company, but we want to find the best people and pay them more than anyone else is going to pay them. We want him to be happy. The resulting with letters going back and forth between you and far away its and so on. Between you and andreessen for what what have you learned from that fundraising experience . So far in my life i have had three fundraising experiences area they have all been for genius. They have taught me a bunch of stuff. This ever was very interesting. I met dan gilbert in a pretty haphazard this way, but we hit it off right away. He has got a massive company, quicken loans and the cavalier organization, other businesses he is in. And rebuilding detroit and this massive operation, and he started telling me about the challenges of communicating to all different types of people. And how you do it. The company of 20 people, we are facing the same challenges that on a miniature level. We immediately got into a deep conversation about that, and he invited me to come see him in detroit on monday and i went and talked about rap genius. He was very into it. For anyone looking for fundraising advice, build Real Relationships with real investors. Get them excited about your product. Hold your breath and try your best. It is really hard. And it is happenstance. It happened and you took advantage. You cant give up. There are dark moments and then there are moments where you have to say and that of freaking out, lets hold hands. Lets put our for heads together. We will do that right now. After this. All right tom lehman and ilan , zechory, the cofounders of genius. Thanks for taking stock. I am pimm fox