family and not also try to be the mayor of a big city like new york. >> simon, as you look at this through the lens of a psychosexual therapist, what do you ever of this? he's been through therapy and put this behind them as of a year ago. is it that easy? is that something you stop doing? >> no, you have to have treatment for a long time but his language gives us indication of how much work he needs to do on himself. he said he cause add stress on his marriage. what causes a stress on your hard rage marriage is not taking the garbage out, not what he did. [ laughter ] >> when he talks about when i made a mistake, he's talking like a cogtive process. he's not using the sex addictive and recovery language where he would be talking about i seeked forgiveness. don't forget, sex addicts know