obliged to provide. or to take all other steps available to us to get that testimony. >> congressman schiff as you know has said he believes your committee will receive documents related to the insurrection, quote, very soon. but the former president has made a claim of executive privilege over many records and a letter to the national archives. that claim is obviously dubious because he is not the sitting president. but if the national archives doesn't want to wade into the middle of this, a, do they have that option? and what can you do to actually get those records? >> well, i don't think they have the option. the statute's pretty clear. the existing president has blessed the deliverance of this material to us. the former president has an opportunity to look at it, but he doesn't really have a say in it. he's a litigious person. we know that. but there's no real ambiguity in the statute, and i expect that we will get this information. >> you served with mark meadows in -- in the house. i don't know, you know, how well