fragrant, perfectly shaped and folded ballistically designed delivery vehicles for pure pleasure. and the allure of shanghai-style pork chop served with the local take on the worcestershire sauce. it's irresistible. >> so i really believe that the world is converging and china will again be privatizing more and more. >> right. >> but the difficulty, nowadays it's just the technology is so advanced we don't really need that many people to do things that many people used to do. what's the population? 7 billion people. the world probably doesn't need that many people working anymore. >> right. >> so the question is, what should human beings do, you know? how can you let them not do anything and then still living good life? >> right.