situations. however, we all knew they were flash bangs. this this incident, we heard about a half dozen loud noises that we don't know whether they were gunshots or they were the gas guns. we do know, however, that this man has been shooting. since we got here on scene, i've heard a number ever gunshots which were confirmed by lieutenant scott wall that those were gunshots. so this man is actively firing. right now just a few moments ago you heard lieutenant wall tell us that this man right now they apparently do have him contained in the apartment. and i was able to talk to lieutenant scott wall about this apartment that he's contained in. apparently you see the roof of that apartment building there, if you go up to the roof there are apparently units at the top of that apartment building. and that is where this man is. earlier you said just after 9:00 officers arrived, tried to contact him, and they approached the apartment building on that