with tlc. it wasn't about advertiser pressure it was refreshinglecting what tlc was doing. but it's been wiped away off the internet and television. again, making it harder to bring it back in the future. one of most logical outcomes here is a spin-off. maybe that's why the parents think they need to do a television interview, they need to tell their side of the story and make it more possible 30 have a spin-off in the future. >> what about the brand? depending what the parents say of course what will happen to the duggar brand? >> you know this might be the rare sort of reality tv scandal that doesn't actually help a show. you know we've seen with "duck dynasty" it results in higher ratings and more interest in the subjects of the show. this might be one of the rare stories where that's not the case because we're talking molestation including of family members. that's why the questions for parents are going to be so crucial here. we have to hear from them what