say, hey, i can use the election integrity line here and not offend those who are enthralled with donald trump and the maga movement and committed to the election lies without subscribing myself to the election lies. to your point, abbey, if indeed she's the nominee and if this progresses, it seems to me she's going to be pressed to take a much firmer stand when it comes to the integrity of elections and accepting election results and whether or not there's a place for any kind of lies about the -- >> but it also puts into question -- maybe it puts into focus actually where she thinks she needs to play in order to get the most votes. and it isn't against donald trump right now. it's against ron desantis and the other people running against donald trump because there are others who argue the only way to really topple donald trump is to really take him on. and the only way you're going to be the nominee is if you take on the front-runner. she's not there right now. >> she knows it's early, so i do