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To deal with russia. We want to talk about all of this with abby phillip and audie cornish, who are here now. Abby, whats your take away . I think what youre raising about abortion really speaks to something that i could not ignore, which was that this was a republican audience in the state of iowa about the republican caucuses. But she was speaking to a national audience. She was really trying to present herself, i think very differently from many of her other colleagues in this race. But she was also trying to leave herself a lot of room on some issues like abortion. I thought it was so stri...

to deal with russia. we want to talk about all of this with abby phillip and audie cornish, who are here now. abby, what's your take away? >> i think what you're raising about abortion really speaks to something that i could not ignore, which was that this was a republican audience in the state of iowa about the republican caucuses. but she was speaking to a national audience. she was really trying to present herself, i think very differently from many of her other colleagues in this race. but she was also trying to leave herself a lot of room on some issues like abortion. i thought ...

Say, hey, i can use the election integrity line here and not offend those who are enthralled with donald trump and the maga movement and committed to the election lies without subscribing myself to the election lies. to your point, abbey, if indeed she's the nominee and if this progresses, it seems to me she's going to be pressed to take a much firmer stand when it comes to the integrity of elections and accepting election results and whether or not there's a place for any kind of lies about the -- >> but it also puts into question -- maybe it puts into focus actually where she thinks she need...

That is true. states did change their laws, states that joe biden won, states that donald trump won. >> right. >> changed some of their laws. she uses that as a way to sort of, i feel, sidle up and say, hey, i can use the election integrity line here and not offend those who are enthralled with donald trump and the maga movement and committed to the election lies without subscribing myself to the election lies. to your point, abby, if indeed she's the nominee and if this progresses, it seems to me she's going to be pressed to take a much firmer stand when it comes to the integrity of elections...