saying that you gave softball questions and really allowed matt to just tell his side of the story. i'm turning the tables here. >> well, here's why i'm not worried about that. people want to criticize the piece, bring it on. i ask all the tough questions. i got him to say on the record that nbc, i think he included himself in this, had not handled it well. i talked to the former nbc news president who said that matt lauer repeatedly asked comcast to go slow, not be seen as pushing ann curry out the door too soon. i talked to the chief executive of nbc and asked him the hard questions. he told me, on the record, again, that when all this blew up and matt was getting all this bad press and offered to step aside, offered to leave "today" show if it would help and he said he would not hear of that. he thinks lauer does a great job. is lauer unfairly -- do you find what lauer and nbc executives now saying credible as far as