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officials were followed by journalists and policy wonks, until he was discovered and quickly fired in a scoop first reported by josh rogan. here to discuss this is jamel and, jamel, let's start with you, a guy with a lot of drama in his real life, real job, national security council, and yet he can't resist becoming a twitter. is this social media democratizing journalism, or is this everyone wants to be on tv, everyone wants to be a critic. >> i think it might be everyone wants to be a critic. i know working in some places, you have snarky things to say, and usually you keep them quiet. and i think he couldn't resist going to the public and knowing that his colleagues happened to be policymakers of the united states of america, just, you know, irresistible. >> irresistible, but deeply irresponsible. >> incredibly irresponsible. >> dumb, dumb, dumb. [ laughter ] joe, another story, and this

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