appears to be. and to understand that, you have to go back to where they first met. >> we met in high school, in wichita. we went to our junior prom together but with different people. i went with a girlfriend of mine and jackie went with a guy friend. >> when school ended, they parted ways. and for 30 years, led completely separate lives. >> for me, i felt like i didn't fit in there. it was a couple more in place than i opinion. >> but jackie stayed. >> the thought of going some place differet, was out of the realm of possibility for me. >> how young were you when you got married the first time? >> 18. that was the natural progression