he really cares that much about it. it seems like the only time he does care about corruption is when it involves one of his political opponents. so i don't buy it. >> josh, there is this remarkable moment, from the 2016 vice presidential debate. here it is. >> we all need to know out there. this is basic stuff. foreign donors and certainly foreign governments cannot participate in the american political process. >> what happened to 2016, mike pence? >> well, donald trump got elected and made him vice president and i think pence along with everybody else in the republican party, just about everybody else, has bent themselves to trump's will. pence has become almost a punch line in some fidelity to trump, his willingness to praise trump and do his bidding. i was talking to a white house advisor today who said trump is a loyal soldier, but even given