contradicts trump saying there's no quid pro quo, a statement he made that encompassed more than the biden discussion. advancing that spear theory, getting ukraine to advance it, is to his political advantage in 2020 because it takes certain questions off the table about 2016. it's still a very bad thing. now we're in this hall of mir r mirror, mick mulvaney comes out layer in the day saying we misconstrued him. you played the clip twice. thank you for doing that. there's no misconstruing here. mick mulvaney just kind of owned what happened and bought, i guess, that was the page the white house was moving toward him, no, it's not, now he has this ridiculous statement out. we're living in this hall of mirrors. >> how told the truth. >> yes. >> and said get over it. >> so, that was, those were the driving factors. did he also mention to me in past the corruption related to the dnc server? absolutely. no question about that. but that's it. and that's why we held up the money."