Anthony what are we drinking . Beer . We drinking harder stuff . Whats going on . Sean i usually go with a budweiser and a jagermeister. Anthony budweiser and a jagermeister . So any notion of going local right out the window. Sean yeah. Bartender two jagers . Anthony uh, yeah, two jagers. Yeah. Cheers. Good to see you again, man. Sean cheers, man. The first ones never good. The first one is never good. But it gets easier after the first one. Anthony so, look, um, this is not my first time to, uh, charleston, as you know. I did do a show here before and im still taking about it. Apparently i really up the first time i came here because i made a number of errors, apparently none more egregious than going out for, like, doing oyster roasts and drinking champagne. Sean id never heard for such a thing. Well, champagne of beers is okay with oysters. Anthony right, see thats what it mustve been a typo. Sean maybe somebody got, yeah, confused somewhere. Anthony yeah. Anyway, i got it wrong. This time im getting it right, which is why ive come to you. Anthony you could be forgiven for underestimating sean brock first time you meet him. I know i did. I saw a scruffy looking dude in a trucker cap, who always seemed to have a bottle of really good bourbon on hand. Sean thats a weller, 1991, 18 years old. This is the end of great whiskey. It didnt come in this bottle. This is my travel bottle because its plastic, you see, so it dont break when you get rowdy. Anthony it took me a little time to discover the ferocious intellect, the inquiring nature, the uniquely focused and purposeful talent of the man. Without a doubt, one of americas most important chefs. A guy whos redefining what not just southern cooking is, was, and can be, but american cooking as a whole. Sean one, two, three anthony were gonna talk a lot about this over the next week, about the notions of universal awesomeness. Is the waffle house universally awesome . Sean we have one choice for latenight eating and its the waffle house. And they create this environment where no matter how blitzed you are, or how normal you are, you are welcomed and treated equally with an experience. Its not just, like, you know, eating a plate of food. Anthony youre talking about it like a magical spiritual place. Sean no, its beyond a magical spiritual place. Anthony it is indeed, marvelous, an ironyfree zone where everything is beautiful and nothing hurts, where everybody, regardless of race, creed, color or degree of inebriation, is welcomed. Its warm, yellow glow a beacon of hope and salvation, inviting the hungry, the lost, the seriously hammered all across the south to come inside. A place of safety and nourishment. It never closes. It is always always faithful, always there for you. Sean when i was a kid i was obsessed with this place, because i wanted to be a chef and this was the only place id ever been to where i actually watched people cook. This was action to me because i would see these people cooking at a pace and cooking for people who were completely out of control, but still providing the hospitality. It was one of the things that really helped me fall in love with cooking. Anthony waffle house. Sean yes. Anthony i cant believe i didnt know about this. I am unbelievably, in spite of my world travels, new to the wonders of the waffle house, and unfamiliar with its ways. The terminology, for instance, is new to me. Now look, im looking at my hash brown and i am already confused and enticed. Sean heres the thing. You cant you cant go all in, because you want everything. Anthony i need to make a choice. Sean so theres balance, and then when you find your balance you memorize it. I go scattered, covered, smothered, chunks. Anthony which means, i gather, scattered on the griddle, heaped with brown onions, cheese and chunks of hickorysmoked ham. Sean thats my style, like ive been doing that since day one, and i didnt even know what that means. Anthony you know what i know. I dont want waffles at the waffle house. Sean bullshit, man, you have to have anthony waffles . Sean okay, you have to pecan waffle. So what ive devised as anthony all right. Sean as a chef, is a tasting menu experience where you can sit down and really experience what this place does, and you start out first thing you have, pecan waffles. Anthony really . Waitress here, gentlemen. Anthony oh. Sean oh, the pecan waffle, you just crush it. You put every anthony you just slather it. Sean i want it to be swimming in syrup and homogenized vegetable oil. Anthony oh, thats thats good. Sean see, you dont come here expecting the french laundry. You come here expecting something amazing. Anthony this is better than the french laundry, man. Sean and then, second course, patty melt split. Anthony oh, patty melt. Sean oh, patty melt. Come on, thats not insanely delicious . Anthony oh, god damn. Sean thats not insanely delicious. Waitress no meal is complete without sunny side up eggs, okay . Anthony oh yeah. Sean and then a green salad with some thousand island dressing would be the amazing. Would you rather have thincut pork chops or tbone . Anthony i would like both. Sean heinz 57s the best, man. One of the more complex sauces in the american repertoire. Anthony what the really . Sean you want to talk shit about it. This is this is sauce work. Trust me, this is gonna change your life. Anthony now thats wrong, man, come on. Sean mm. This is a brilliant human being who had a recipe. It was amazing and he got a bad rap. Anthony youre talking about like ronald mcdonald. He had a good idea. No, youre wrong. Im sorry. Heres where we part ways, my friend. Heres my sauce. After a few bites of waffle, a burger, a hunk of generic tbone and some hash browns, one feels drawn right to the center of what makes our country great. An america yeah moment that drives me to clamber up on the counter and start reciting walt whitman, the starspangled banner, oh say can you see, and you know what, i doubt id be the first. Oh my god. Sean give me a break. Anthony the umami happening here. Sean yes, yeah give me a break. Anthony you know what umami means in japanese, actually . The literally translation of umami . Sean orgasm . Anthony no, umami means in japanese, if you, literally it means, i will your for a bite of that, that burger. [ laughter ] sean you and you, bite the pork chop. I remember setting up shipstation. One or two clicks and everything was up and running. I was printing out labels and saving money. Shipstation saves us so much time. It makes it really easy and seamless. 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Greater details. Richer stories. And now with health insights. Get your dna kit at ancestry. Com. Anthony Everybody Needs a place, a community, something larger than oneself to care about, to be part of, a place to hide when times get tough, where youre accepted for who you are. Where the rhythms of a summer afternoon, the crack of a bat, the roar of the crowd, are music. Behold the mighty charleston river dogs, a minor league feeder team for the new york yankees. [ cheers ] anthony meet one of the owners of the charleston river dogs, charleston resident bill murray. Sean said i had too many beers to drive, im gonna take shotgun. Bill were gonna see how fast he can go all the way around the outfield. Anthony today the river dogs are facing the evil forces of the dreaded savannah sand gnats. Bill yow thats going to score a run, and thats going to leave a mark. Hes gonna hold him. Anthony bad day for the sand gnats. Bill youre hated. Youre hated. Anthony we will crush you like a well, sand gnat. Bill a sand gnat has almost no backbone. Almost not skeletal structure. They fold. Anthony as difficult as it mightve been to forgo the joys of the baconwrapped footlong corn dog known as the pig on a stick, we knew wed be coming here, husk, seans restaurant in downtown charleston, one of two that have helped make the city a fine dining destination. So i wanna know, southern living, its very different up there and down here. Its a big transition. Easy, easy for you or not . Bill its easy. The only driving was the real transition because i drive like a new york person. When you come here driving like new york, you know, it takes you a while to recover. But, you know, im right on the edge here, like telling people that this is a really nice place to come and really i dont want anyone else to come. I like it the way it is. Theres a lot of insects. Its really, really hot in the summer and the traffic is worse than it ever was. Anthony husk directly addresses southern culinary traditions using the best of modern techniques, but always, always respecting the originals and who made them. Its a pressing matter to redefine Southern Food. If i were a southerner, i would, i would make it a personal mission because it was distorted for so long. But as a northerner, why should northerners care . Sean well, i think if you look at the history of food in america theres no denying that Southern Food was the first, you know, true cuisine that had this foundation and thats important to preserve. And, to me, though, it kind of goes back to the idea you should be cooking and preserving and celebrating the food of your grandmother. Bill people take a real pride in their ability to cook my aunts recipe, my grandmothers recipe of this is how we made these, and the standard of food here is so high that when i go around any place i just go, eh. Anthony country ham, bread and butter pickles and, of course, sean being sean, there will be bourbon. Sean i just like to start a meal with pickles and ham. Ill try not to geek out too much, but this is a very special breed of pig that came over here in the 1500s called ossabaw. The spaniards brought it. It has a very particular flavor. This ones aged three years. Anthony its ridiculously good. Thats the best american ham ive ever had far and away. That is unbelievable. Sean these two things together, these are my two favorite things in the whole entire world. Stitzel weller whiskey and old country ham. So this is an old dish, um, that i dug up in one of those old books that i that i study. Its an oldfashioned oyster pie. Anthony ooh. Sean so just grab your spoon and just dig all the way down. The oysters are in the bottom. Anthony how old is this recipe . Sean it was welldocumented in the 19th century precivil war. Anthony thats good. Bill this is amazing. Anthony yes. Bill oh god. Sean so shrimp and grits is the dish of charleston. I mean, it really is. Its the dish i crave when i leave charleston and come back. This version is one of the older ones where we actually make hominy first by nixtamalizing the corn, so youll taste a little the grits are a little bit different. Anthony oh, yes. Oh, thats really greatlooking. Sean and we make a brown gravy, which is the most classic way, and on top crispy pig ears. Anthony you get grannies coming and saying, i havent tasted this since i was a little kid. Sean yeah, exactly, man. Anthony wow, thats good. Sean mm. Sean we were trying to replicate the emotion of southern, that Southern Food provides you in a time where good ingredients werent available, so we made up for tasteless ingredients by frying them or dumping butter on them. Anthony right. Sean now we dont have to. Anthony wow, whats going on here . This is an onslaught of awesomeness here. Bill we didnt order this. Sean so hoppin john, so pit beans that have been cooking over the fire all day. These are the red peas that came from west africa. This is the original carolina gold rice, handharvested. Grilled whiting, which is what nobody eats in charleston in restaurants. Its what everybody eats in homes with some spring vegetables. And then this is suckling pig. Thats the same breed, ossabaw, as we had earlier with the ham, mixed with a mule foot cooked on a spit. Some creamed corn and cornbread. Anthony wow. Bill well, this is going to be my first mule foot. Sean this is like my favorite way to eat, you know . Just family style, just pass stuff around. Anthony oh yeah. The rice is amazing. Bill its amazing, man. Anthony yeah. You see bubba gump, you get angry . Sean i get very angry. Anthony for me, its chilis, because you see chilis along the mexican border. Its like what the . Im sorry, do we have a shortage of mexicans in this country. Is there a shortage of good food . Youre eating at chilis . I really want to pull up the car, get a tire iron and walk in and just straighten some people out. Sean clean house. Road house style. Anthony road house. Vastly underrated film. Bill you guys are both into road house . Anthony such a great film. Swayze. What else do you need to know . You can deconstruct this film forever. The more you watch it, the more mysteries unfold. Bill ive never seen anyone enjoy road house more than i do. Sean what . Bill my friends wife, kelly lynch, plays the doctor that stitches up Patrick Swayze in the movie. Sean oh yeah, yeah. So hot. Bill shes the romantic interest, right . The unobtainable romantic interest. Anthony yes. Bill and i have for the last, i dont know, probably about 25 years called his home in the middle of the night and said, you dont know me, but your wifes getting slammed up against the wall by Patrick Swayze and shes not putting up much of a fight. And then hang up. Anthony it is in many ways a perfect film. 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Well, its always useful when asking those kinds of questions, wherever you are, to ask first, who did the cooking back then in the beginning . Where did they come from . Ashley when you meet people here, you know that youre seeing a direct descendant of a slave that was here after, um, the slaves were freed. Anthony Ashley Greene grew up on mosquito beach on james island in charleston. Her mother owns the property, which has been in her family for generations. Fact of the matter is in the old south back when the dishes, flavors and ingredients of southern cooking, which is to say american cooking as opposed to european, chances are that food was grown, gathered, produced and prepared by african slaves. Chef b. J. Dennis has made it a personal mission to celebrate and protect the culinary traditions his ancestors passed down to him. B. J. so this is, um, some local blue crab, fresh in season. This is a play on some garlic crabs, but this is shrimp butter instead of garlic butter, and then you have that play of, you know, the french influence into the cuisine right here. Anthony the flavors and textures and food ways of west africa are all over southern cooking. And there are few better places to see how short the line between there and here than gullah culture. Anthony im really enjoying this, i got to tell you. Sean this is so delicious. Ashley oh my goodness. Anthony how african is traditional gullah cooking . Ashley well, i think what happens is you change the location of the people, but you do not change who the people were. You did not change the information that they came with, with their traditions. Sean if you look at the history of American Food and youll youll quickly see that this is this is one of the first true cuisines of america. Anthony oh whats that . What is this . It looks good. B. J. were going back to west africa. Ashley all right. Anthony soft shell crabs and conch in a decidedly west african inflected peanut stew with carolina rice, sauteed squash, and zucchini. Anthony oh, thats so good. Sean man, its been a while since ive had conch. Anthony clearly, i mean, correct me if im wrong, sean, theres a different kind of interest in charleston that existed 20 years ago, right . Is something happening here and is it a good what, what, whats changed . B. J. i mean, its good to have people from to have a more Diverse Community in a sense, but then you also lose a little bit. Ashley the danger is theyre coming to charleston because of the beauty, and were having to fight against, you know, bigger entities that seek to get the land so that they can develop it. And so were fighting to keep whats been ours, and so its important for us to preserve this area, preserve this culture for generations to come. According to the u. S. Government, almost 50 of all the children in this country failed to get their recommended daily allowance of the surge in fast food restaurants have discovered that we like our food heavily salted. Just add water and two of your own fresh eggs. Because of industries, innovations and Farm Chemicals and machinery. Taste it anthony how did it happen that we ended up with Southern Food being the most, sort of, cruelly hijacked into this cartoonish, uh, parody of itself . Modern, clean, advanced, complete meat processing. Glenn i think its a combination of two massive cultural influences that came together at the same time. The idea of industrialization came late to the south. When it hit we got pellagra. The first nutrition laws in america were written in South Carolina because everybody moved into mill villages and immediately started eating processed food because they werent growing their food anymore. The second thing that happened is there was a massive amount of expertise that was lost during the civil war. Anthony a lot of the southern revival, the whole turnaround started with this guy, glenn roberts. A man who asked a simple question how come grits arent as good as they used to be . And by starting the heirloom Grain Company anson mills, decided to do something about it. So why do this . Why does something as unwanted, meaning nobody was particularly crying out, you know what we need . We need rice that used to taste like it did in 1837. We need grits, better grits. What called to you that you felt compelled to answer . Glenn im a cuisine whore, you know . I think that culture is interactive with cuisine, as soon as you look at cuisine, youre looking at politics. Youre looking at medicine. Youre looking at the advanced thinking. Anthony ill agree with you that there is nothing more political than food. Glenn you got it. Anthony chef mike latas restaurant fig was one of the first and most important on the charleston scene. Determined to source the kind of local products that you used to find everywhere in the low country. As much as id like to illustrate that solid grounding and traditional ingredients and preparations with my order, i could not resist the soft shell crabs, which are just in season. With a pasta and shaved bottarga, which frankly, id slit my best friends throat for. Glenn wow, that looks great. Anthony yeah. Glenn thats beautiful. Anthony its sweet. When you had your first forkful of proper rice is there an instinct to go out and sort of bludgeon the rest of the world into understanding what you have just come to understand. Glenn i did not run up and down the streets of charleston. It was tough to dislodge people here so i just went straight to San Francisco and i gave away tons of product. And guess what . They went crazy. Anthony slow baked black bass, anson mills farrow, ramps in season, and lettuces. And this ode to all things glenn is responsible for bringing back. Heirloom rice and peas, suckling ossabaw pig and chicken confit with carolina gold rice. Oh, thats good. Glenn isnt that great . This is phenomenal. These peas are killer. Anthony im hitting the rice next. Glenn thats got the entire history of southern agriculture in it. Anthony right here . Glenn right there in that little bowl. This whole idea of having a century in a dish, none of this stuff was here 20 years ago. Anthony near the end of the civil war during general shermans scorched earth campaign, seed stores were a favored target. It was largely african slaves who were able to save the seeds that glenn is now able to locate and reintroduce. Glenn it is those people who kept the corn. It is those people who kept the cowpeas. Its those people who kept the vegetables because they couldnt buy their way out of not doing it. Anthony when you talk about chitterlings, pig foot, hog maws, africanamericans in the north do not embrace those poor people, uh, classics of the south. Theres an overlay of pain and oppression that goes with it. How do we combat that . Glenn what youre speaking about is walking away from your own culinary heritage because of social sensitivity. Bottom line is if you want something thats compelling that draws on your soul, this is why they call it soul food. Anthony i need the finest in turkey killing couture. I want to be ninjalike and i want to look cool. Salesman well, you know, camouflage is the standard goout wear in South Carolina so anthony im bringing that look to new york. A cool, clear morning, and i do what any sensible charlestonian would do on a day like this look for turkeys to kill. So pants, need those. Salesman all right. You know in South Carolina our state bird is the mosquito. Anthony right, so i want to be covered head to toe. Salesman next thing we need to get your face covered up. Anthony im going into waffle house wearing this. This is totally me. Salesman we do have some turkey vests. Anthony a turkey vest, yes, i just gotta have it. [ imitating Arnold Schwarzenegger ] this is your last day on earth, mr. Turkey. You will die now. Prepare to meet your maker. Heres the thing about hunting. The likelihood of me successfully shooting even the stupidest animal on camera are about the same as donald trump being gracious to anybody or adam sandler making a good movie. Basically, a magical unicorn is going to land in front of me and shower me with candy and vicodins before i shoot a freakin turkey on camera. [ gunshot ] that shot you heard was me shooting a producer in the calf and telling him to hobble over to the Piggly Wiggly for a frozen gobbler before he bleeds out. And like magic, behold. Turkey. Slow, slow barbecue turkey with all the sides you want and need. What do we got going on here, chef . Sean pigs feet and collared greens. Anthony oh damn. Sean pickled pigs feet and collared greens. Anthony oh yes. Sean and then barbecue cole slaw, some potato salad with ramps, baked red peas. Anthony mmhmm, oh theres my weakness right there. Sean and we made you some very special bright orange mac and cheese. Anthony mac and cheese. I do love bright orange mac and cheese, as you know. And thats a turkey. Sean yup. Anthony let that be a lesson to you. Jeff like going to grandmas house. Anthony mike lata from fig is here and jeff alan, owner of rebellion farm. So at this point, how many others are there like you guys, like, who are basically keeping it real as far as real southern culinary traditions as opposed to sort of the jokey ones . Sean i feel like just about everybody here is. Mike yeah, more than you would think. Anthony well, how many people is that . Mike 12 . Sean yeah, in a town like this, thats pretty amazing. Anthony god damn, this is good. Pigs feet and green is just ridiculously good. Jeff this is really moist for a wild turkey. Sean people who say they dont like turkey need to eat this. Mike so whats your impression of charleston . Anthony its a, you know, its one of those weird, distinctly american mutations, kind of like rock n roll or jazz or blues. Sean thats what makes charleston so cool, though. Theres really nothing else like it in america, and its been unique since the early part of the 18th century. And the city works hard to preserve that. We have an incredibly gorgeous city that people want to visit so we have the advantage of tourism. Mike the clientele definitely gives us the opportunity to be this progressive or relevant. Sean they almost push us to be more than we can even be. Jeff we have an active cuisine. I mean, we recovered all these, you know, ingredients and rediscovered a lot of the agricultural influences that were destroyed in the 20th century, but were not were not just recreating history. Were not going back and cooking the civil war. These guys are pushing the food forward here and were creating a new cuisine. Anthony its gotta be a happy day when you can take a caesar off the menu forever. Sean yeah, man. Anthony im gonna be getting some more of that mac and cheese in a minute. Sean hell yeah. Care for lives to get home to they use stamps. Com print discounted postage for any letter any package any time right from your computer all the Amazing Services of the post office only cheaper get our special tv offer a 4week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps. Com tv and never go to the post office again or more on car insurance. S could save you fifteen percent Everybody Knows that. Well, did you know pinocchio was a bad motivational speaker . I look around this room and i see nothing but untapped potential. You have potential. You haveoh boy. Geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Mark were one of the last few hunters in the world. Theres no store for us to go off shore to go and pick those fish up. We have to look for them. We have to go and sort of find the ones were allowed to harvest. We are the last of the final frontier of hunters, you know, to go and to feed the world, and thats what we do. Anthony Mark Marhefka has been a fisherman since the 70s. He takes an unusual and much needed approach to catching fish. Instead of raking the sea of the same overfished, mindlessly popular species, he passionately promotes the just as good and usually better, less known, and underutilized stuff. Sean one of the great things about the low country is the flavor of our waterways, and that wasnt being represented properly in all of the restaurants. Then all of a sudden, i hear about this guy who has the most beautiful fish youve ever seen, but you got to go to the dock and get it. [ laughter ] anthony frustrated by the conventional wisdom, by the mishandling of fish by other distributors, and the narrow range available on the market, he became his own dealer, starting abundant seafood, one of the countrys first csfs or Community Supported fisheries. Hes changed the way people think about socalled trash fish. Sean look at how beautiful that is. Anthony todays catch triggerfish. Any market for these things . Mark oh my god. Anthony yeah . Mark we cant go and keep it in house enough. Anthony no really . Mark really. Sean but the crazy thing is its like even five years ago there wasnt a single one of these on the menu. You know, before we all knew mark, everyone had the same crap on the menus tuna, salmon, grouper, snapper which is delicious stuff, but as we all know weve overfished that. And mark really taught all of us the beauty of stuff like this. This is a halfshell style, so you just leave the scale on, the skin on, just cook it one side up. Anthony its sort of basting itself in there. Sean yeah, yeah. It makes like a cup. Its very creole. Anthony is there something out there that youre seeing thats still a hard sell that you wish people would mark one of the hardest sells is amberjack. Amberjack, yeah. Sean amberjack, for sure. Anthony the japanese love it, amberjack. Ooh, look at that. That is pretty. It smells good. Mark wow. Yum. Sean oh man. Mark i can eat that 365 days a year. Sean ah, charcoal and fish. Its so good. Anthony damn thats good. Sean wow. Sean everybody thinks theres all this great barbecue in the south. Its 99 terrible barbecue, and so to get real barbecue, youve got to drive. Anthony way out in the weeds, off the main road, and good freakin luck if you could find it, is one of the most respected barbecue joints in the u. S. Of a. Run by one of the most respected oldschool pit masters. Ask a chef. Ask anybody who knows good barbecue, and they will tell you where to go. Here. A rundownlooking takeout about two hours drive out of charleston in hemingway, South Carolina. Now, how long have you been doing this . Rodney since i was 11. Sean thats crazy. Rodney i grew up doing this. My family started in 1972, so i grew up running around this place. Anthony its hard. Rodney it is. Sean thats why no one does it, man. Thats why theres nothing but bad barbecue cause in my opinion the only true way to make barbecue is the burned barrel and the pits and you gotta stay up all night. Rodney all night. Anthony rodney scott, a man sought after all over the world for some of the finest whole hog barbecue there is. Rodney and his family have been doing it like this and only like this for 43 years. Burn barrel, fresh coals, slow, slow, slowcooked all night in the pit. There are no shortcuts. This aint a craft, this is a calling. Look at that. Rodney yes. Anthony oh, man. Rodney got to have a little bit of white bread with it. Anthony yeah, at least no doubt. See this is what everybody always gets wrong in new york. You serve cornbread with barbecue . Which of course falls into crumbles. Yeah, youve got to have that. Sean look at that. This is what we call pork spaghetti. Rodney gotta have some of that. Anthony man, that sauce is nice, too. Its just perfect, right . Rodney vinegar and pepper. Sean yeah, so good. Rodney thats my dads recipe. Anthony do you do not the standard South Carolina mustard dressing at all . Im sure people are going to be pissed at me about this because feel strongly about these things, but i was not liking that mustard thing. Sean oh, i cant stand it. Rodney around here you scream mustard theyll think its going on a hot dog. Its the only thing they know about mustard here. Anthony oh good. Oh man, thats just so good. Now how many hours about that pig is cooking . Rodney 12 hours. Anthony about 12. Sean you have to love it, you have to be head over heels in love with it to do that every day. I mean, you ever get sick of eating barbecue . Rodney no, not yet. Not yet. Sean so were all gonna be rolling out of here with the rodney scott cologne on. Good morning oh no, here comes the neighbor probably to brag about how amazing his Xfinity Customer Service is. Im mike, im so busy. Good thing xfinity has twohour appointment windows. They have night and weekend appointments too. Hes here. Bill . Karolyn . Nope no, just a couple of rocks. Download the my account app to manage your appointments making todays Xfinity Customer Service simple, easy, awesome. Ill pass. Anthony what are we fishing for here . Sean well, out here we got, um, spot tail bass, flounder, sea trout. Anthony really . Sean yeah. Anthony whoo, watch out. I gotcha. Sean yeah, and the way you fish here, the idea is throw it out as far as you can and you just leave it. Anthony oh just leave it. Sean yeah, thats the cool thing about fishing out here. Anthony oh good, so i dont have to be working, not so much skill involved for me. So how am i doing in the learn to be redneck, uh, department . Im not wearing shoes. Sean youre looking good without shoes on, with a fishing pole in your hand on a dock, thats pretty awesome. Its a different pace here, man. You know, this is the way to live. Anthony i do enjoy it. Love that waffle house, man. I need a waffle house. Im trying to tell you that was like a, i like your restaurant and all. I guess youre some kinda good chef. But that waffle house, that is a phenomenon. Sean man, im telling you, it really is. Whats good with boiled peanuts is whiskey. Anthony oh yeah. Mmhmm, thats good. Oh, that is nice. Sean its so good, man. Its so good. Hows the visit two to charleston . Anthony oh, its been great. This is a special place. It really is. Sean oh its very unique. Its been a lot of fun to watch the food scene here go from kind of what everybody else is doing and was doing to doing something very singular and very special. Anthony and when you got a tradition and when you have traditional recipes and a story behind food like you have here, uh, thats thats a really cool thing. Sean well, the thing is im still discovering stuff here. Ive been here 12 years. Anthony that barbecue that rodney gave was sick, man. Sean he is a force to be reckoned with, man. Like, we talk about europe, everybody travels hours to go to el bulli or travels hours by car to go michel bras. Its the same thing here we just do it for barbecue. Got a hit . Anthony i dont know, lets see. Yeah. Sean you did. It bit right below the hook. Anthony yeah, thats an intelligent mother fish, too. Big and intelligent. Sean so just hook up under the bottom lip. Anthony ouch, oh. Open, whoa. Open up, mother. Whoa, hes up my leg. Hes on analseeking bait. [ laughter ] where do you think youre going, buddy . Its, like, one of those vampiric, like one of those analseeking, those fish in the amazon that swim up your hole. Nice try, buddy. Its quiet on the river this morning aint nobody on the water but me but that suns coming on and it wont be long theres a little more wake coming on this creek put the lines out in the water anthony who doesnt wanna end with this . The old fishing hole, quality bourbon, no need for shoes. Sean i think the crab is just having a minnow buffet. Anthony in such circumstances whether you actually catch any fish is completely beside the point. Come on, man, not bad for a yankee. Sean looking good, man. That was better than my last cast. Making noise with the alligator boys 20 miles east of gauttier joe bidenbanked everything on the win in South Carolina and it paid off. Next we look ahead to super tuesday. Hundreds desperate to escape dang danger gas and move on with their live. S. 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