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Now Donald Trumps recipe for loyalty and lies. Thats tonight on news night good evening. Im abby phillip in new york and tonight, its a new season of the donald trump show. But the plot is painfully familiar. Today, there was a new character brought in to play out an old story line. Mike johnson, he made that maralago pilgrimage today, traveling the same route as Kevin Mccarthy wants. Did the deja vu doesnt end there. Johnsons job is in jeopardy. Its under threat from the far right flank, just like mccarthys was once upon a time so johnson recycled the old formula kissing trumps ring and lending legitimacy to the illegitimate they want to turn these people into voters. When you go to a welfare office, they also ask you if you would like to register to vote and so many people, we think are going to do that. And you know what the numbers are so high, theres so many millions of illegals in the country but if only one out of 100 voted they would cast potentially hundreds of thousands of votes in the election that could turn an election. This, this could be a title election. And in our congressional races around the country, it could if there are enough votes affect the president ial election did you catch that . We think if only it could republicans doing trumps bidding want to turn fiction into fact . And maybe into probably a too bad for them. None of what you just heard is true heres what actually happens when you registered to vote according two decades of cold hard data, you provide your drivers license or your Social Security number and your identity gets checked against the database. You swear under penalty of perjury that you are who you say you are, that youre a Citizen Noncitizen voting almost never happens. And if you dont believe me, how about the Heritage Foundation . There are rightwing think tank and they track confirmed cases of Noncitizen Voting they found that fewer than 100 cases have happened not hundreds of thousands of cases of illegal votes. And thats not in one election either, or even two elections, or even three elections. But in every federal elections since 2002 thats more than 20 years, barely enough votes to swing a race for dog catcher, much less president of the United States. Donald trump is a onehit wonder. Hes been producing this same Press Conference for nearly nine years. Think back to that june de in 2015 trumps gold escalator ride might feel like forever ago, but his lies about immigrants today are a carbon copy of his script from then. Just listen to the overlap is people did not sending their best theyre not sending you theyre not sending you theyre sending people that have lots of problems and theyre bringing those problems with us bringing drugs. Theyre bringing crime theyre rapists, and some i assume are good people but i believe you could have 15 million already in some are terrorists they come from jails and prisons, they come from mental institutions and insane asylums the trump shells simply has not changed the themes are all the same. The prompts, like the speaker, are the same the rambling, ridiculous claims are attracted, no one laughs at anymore and his promises are the same to trump again, says, hell testify that he would take the stand and that he would Tell The Truth testifying, requiring yeah. I would test if i absolutely testifying, i Tell The Truth. I mean, all i can do is Tell The Truth today, trump is talking about his manhattan Hush Money Trial that starts on monday. And when he does, hell shatter history as the first expresident to be judged by his peers for 34 Felony Criminal Counts but just throw the what the where and the why into a blender and trump might as well have been talking about robert molar or impeachment or e jean carroll. All venues that he has said he would happily testify in and never did i would have no problem testified. I didnt do anything wrong really attend any of these things, get the trial. Will you testify in land . A lot of good lawyers . So if you have to go to trial, will you testify in your own defense . Oh, yes, absolutely stand. That. I did that. I look forward to you. I think that Obstruction Charges is going to get to trial. Mr. President. I would think that i would love to speak. I would love to nobody wants to speak for me. Would you be willing to speak under oath to give your version of 100 . Are you going to talk to molar . Im looking forward to it actually. Would you, sir, any more likely to sit for an interview . Now my lawyers are working on that. Ive always wanted to do an interview. I would love to speak. I would love to go nothing. I want to do more a classic trump promise that is classic bs and new tonight the judge that is presiding over that manhattan Hush Money Trial just denied and other hail mary effort by trumps legal team to delay its start joining me now as anthony scare munshi. Hes known donald trump four years and he once served as White House Communications director. Thanks for staying up with us mooc. Appreciate it so what do you think it would be here donald trump offering to testify. Do you take it literally seriously anything . Yeah. No. Theres a 0 chance that hes got get to testify, but its its right out of his playbook. The interesting thing though, is the date is going against him. Hes his base is getting louder. Hes getting a little louder but its shrinking on the edges and the money that he claimed that he raised, he didnt really raise so hes in trouble there. Therell be way more Field Offices for the biden campaign. Then the Trump Campaign and the swing states. So the playbook is tired, but the real question is, and you cant get any of these guys to join you, abby, but youd have to ask somebody like speaker johnson, what are you doing, stan and next to that guy . And what happened to the backbone of the Republican Party . How did you let this guy hijack the entire party, the party of lincoln and reagan, and throw it in the toilet like this. You know, the guys a criminal, you know, hes a bad, the good convicted in new york because Albon Grip Bragg would never be bringing this case. You have to think about the guts to bring a case like this. Its the first case to be brought against a president , a former president , and, you know, hes got overwhelming evidence and youre standing next to the guy runing the Republican Party. So itll be interesting to see what happens, but theres no chance abbe that he testifies in this or anything coming up in the following the upcoming trials. Yeah. I mean, luck all good questions and trust me, that the ask is out. For people to come on the show and answer them. But, ill answer quickly. Forum. I have no backbone and im so afraid of his base. And so i expect to be speaker for like 20 scare remove gs which are like 220 days im just trying to outlast Kevin Mccarthy that lasted 24 scare muji i mean, thats basically what he would say im measuring the speakership and Scare Mousavi is, is definitely a new one. But look, theres a Fundraising Email that trump and his campaign sent out today to supporters. Heres what it says. On monday. All hell breaks loose on monday, all hell breaks loose. I mean, you know him his supporters what is he trying to do here . Hes trying to foment anger. Hes trying to claim that theyre coming after him unfairly. Hes trying to play the victim to people who unfortunately feel aggrieved by the system, either theyre not doing well and ive talked about this with you before. We have a lot of people in the country that once economically aspirational there now economically desperation. They see donald trump as an avatar for their anger. He wants to tap into that. He wants to upset them. He wants the cause bad situations do you think that theyll versus money . Do you think that they will have the maga types will respond to that message the way he wants them to well, i think what hes hoping for thing number one is money because he wants to use their money to defend themselves the second thing is violence and i dont think anybodys ready to do that for him right now. But i think the country has to gird four when he loses in november and hes going to lose in november hell claim that the election was rigged in hell hell try to foment the same type of violence that he fomented on 6 january in 2021 . I dont think that letter is going to cause anything on monday other than some money coming into the coffers. But again, hes bled those people out already, abby, so theres not a lot of money coming in yeah. I mean, it actually is a little bit of a sign of financial desperation to put it mildly, there is on monday this trial starting Michael Cohen him well, he teased that there would be surprises at this Hush Money Trial. Do you think knowing cohen that he will actually have something to say on the stand that really would rattle trump and that really would make a difference in this case. I do, and listen, im very proud of Michael Cohen because i was with Michael Cohen in 2012 working with him on the romney campaign. And of course i was with him in 2016 when he was one of Donald Trumps righthand people working with him and the evolution of Michael Cohen. I think he is one of the people that history will look back upon and say, wow, america came very close to fascism he had a wellorganized campaign from a Proto Fascists Running who lost in 2020 tried to reclaim the situation in 2024. And there were people in the country like Michael Cohen that had the courage to speak out against the man. And hopefully knock them through the ropes. And so well see i predict youll get convicted in this case. Well have to see whether or not therell be a jail sentence. Thai to that. And then the real question is come november. Do you want a convicted felon to be the president United States that im hoping theres enough independence in the country and enough very smart, rational republicans and good democrats that will make sure that that doesnt happen. All right, anthony scare munshi. Thanks for joining us tonight happy friday. Good to be here and also tonight, a public quid pro quo. Mike johnson went to maralago and he got a version of what he wanted protection from the man who needs it. The most were getting along very well with the speaker and i get along very well with marjorie. Its not an easy situation for any speaker. I think hes doing a very good job. Hes doing about as good as youre going to do. And im sure that marjorie understands that shes a very good friend of mine and i know she has a lot of respect for the speaker also joining us tonight, former Virginia Republican congressman denver riggleman. He served as a special advisor to the january 6 committee. Congressman. Is that enough to save . Speaker johnsons job from a very angry Marjorie Taylor greene, but just not just her lots of members right now. And the Freedom Caucus wing are very unhappy with how things have gone over the last few months of his speakership hey, abby, you know, its great to be here happy friday night, and ill tell you this. It didnt save mccarthy in almost laughed when andy was talking about 24. 5 scare mood cheese, thats about i think where were going to see mike johnson at the end of this, but having to make the pilgrimage little moses, making a pilgrimage to maralago. I think thats what you have and today they have to do this everything runs through maralago logo and i tell you that speech had so many bizarre things in it. I know that we probably dont have enough tonight to go over after all the idioms and all the nonsequiturs that happened during that speech but i think i dont really think i dont think this saves mic but again, hes hoping it does, but they have to go to maralago. Thats just what they have to do. They have to have to show fealty. And thats what you saw mike johnson due today. It so it was so interesting to watch him tried to take this antiimmigrant message, and this Election Line Message and try to put them together in this sort of frankenstein type thing. But its lie after lie about this stuff. I mean at what point does this just kind of not make any sense at all . And voters at this point must, the ones who are not deep in the election lies the, the ones who are in earth, one must see this and say, wheres this coming from . Well, first you know, abby, it wasnt subtle xenophobia that you saw there today. There was Something Else that might john said, he said, well, if one in 100 Illegal Immigrants vote, thats hundreds of thousands. Well, guess what if a ufo crashes in my yard, i can prove theres aliens, you know, if cows fly, you need a stronger umbrella i mean, you could say this over and over again. It makes no sense if you look at statue, look at sourcing, you look at the nonsequiturs there. Its just fearbased politics. When you also look at the words or using an Election Integrity and things like that. Theyre just forecasting how theyre going to talk about the stolen election in 2024. This is exactly what happened in 2020. You are so right about about them playing the hits. Its the same playbook. It xenophobia, talking about a stolen election and talking about him going to testify. My goodness, abby, i mean he he cannot Tell The Truth, but again, it goes back to everythings a non sequitur. Everything hits people in the amygdala when youre talking about this inconsistency is really not a bug at all. Its a feature. When it comes to what theyre talking about with their conspiracy theories. And people coming over the border and crashing the border and taking jobs. This is where theyre going. I think people need to understand right now that the argument for the stolen election is being really, really being laid right now real quick, denver before you go, you probably heard trump today talking about abortion and kinda making a model of it. Frankly do you get the sense that hes worried that this political damage has been done and that it will hurt him in those key swing states and he needs to win you know what i think youve second, abby, i think hes thinking that women are actually going to beat them. I think women do save the election in 2024 i think they have a huge problem and i know other wife and three daughters, abby, i can tell you right now whats happening in roe v. Wade, all the things that are happening with ivf. What youre seeing with the 18 64 law, things like that, women are taking notice and i think what hes trying to do is hes trying to appease as base and also he knows he has to get back to the women and say, oh, i dont i mean, thats i dont mean that again, it goes back to lying. Thats what he does. But again, im going to tell you this, abby, i think women actually saved the country in 2024. If biden were to win, i dont think its a guarantee. I think trumps so as a great chance to win the election. But i think it comes down to he understands that women will be the voting block that takes him out in 2024. All right . Denver riggleman, always great to have you on the show. Thanks for joining us tonight. Have a great weekend. Thanks, abby up next, our donald trump and republicans having remorse over roe versus wade here, their comments then now, plus, after years of questions about her role in the white house Vice President Kamala Harris is now on the offense and is second American Civil War more realistic than we all think . A new movie is raising that very question. This is new sign Laura Coates Live tonight at 11 eastern on cnn by 100 free with turbotax free edition, roughly 37 of taxpayers christian qualify form ten, 40 and limited credits only. See how turbotax. Com thats me follow your pets every step with the worlds most trusted gps tracker for pets, track your pets live location from anywhere in the world, monitor their activity, sleep, and good health alerts. 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With the gas lighting enough with the gaslighting fascinating moment in the president ial race tonight as the Vice President hits arizona just days after that State Put Abortion Rights at the very center of this next election. The swing States High Court reestablished an ancient law from 18, 64, that bans nearly all abortions. And now donald trump and republicans are facing a bit careful what you wish for a moment. For years before trump, quote proudly overturned roe versus wade whenever he was asked about the aftermath there was a Simple Reframe the states will determine by vote or legislation, or perhaps both and whatever they decide must be the Law Of The Land all about bringing the issue back to the states pursuant to the 10th Amendment and States Rights. We havent back in the states and you work with the states and many states have solved the problem for the greatest progress for a prolife is now being made in the states where everyone wanted to be. We got it back to the states if it ever were overturned, it would go back to the states. I will say this. It will go back to the states and the states will then make a determination. I would have preferred current state, right . I think it wouldve been better if it were up to the states and fast forward to now when states are able to revert to the extreme, trump doesnt like the political consequences of that now, the states right ten that the government everybody else bring it back into reason taken care bye birdie way. When it comes to rightwing media. Second verse, same as the first theres nothing extreme about individual states regulating Abortion Supreme Court ruling was a momentous decision that returns abortion law back to the states where it belongs to individual voters. You will now decide abortion, abortion law at the state level per the tenth amendment of our constitution he rightly believes, if you believe in the constitution that it should be left up to the states and for the people in every state to decide that is called o democracy, that is called States Rights for example what about now, fast forward now for an arizona Supreme Court ruling that upholds what is a civil war era law banning abortion. This will be fixed to the next week or two. Let not your heart be trouble. I can i can pretty much assured that that will happen trump opposes the law and this ruling for more, i want to bring in cnn political commentator and former senior White House Communications age. And ill simmons along with cnn contributor leah wright rigueur. Leah, you can hear the tremor in hannitys voice and that last clip, i he out scared i would be scared as well because, you know, in a lot of ways, republicans have just handed democrats a free gift. Theyve off a lot of people who didnt, they didnt need to off and i want to point out one thing that i think is really important for us to remember, which is that theres been all this emphasis that the states should decide thats what democracy is about. The people should decide. Will the people in arizona have largely said over and over again that they support expansive abortion and reproductive rights. And here comes this really obscure law. Here comes the Supreme Court, arizona Supreme Court, stating that what were going to uphold this law, and were going to have a complete and utter ban on abortion. People are angry, people are mad, and now democrats get to capitalize on that as republicans are running. And when trump says hes not going to pass a National Abortion ban, i mean, how seriously should that be taken i think at this point, anything ten trumps we have to take seriously, but we also have to consider the fact that at different points in time, c has shown an indication in a willingness to pass a National Abortion ban. I think more important is that republicans, including republicans and think tanks, policy groups, lobbying groups, republicans in congress, have shown extensive support for a nationwide abortion ban. So more likely than not, if we see a prompt trump presidency, we will also see a nationwide attempt at an abortion ban. So youre former boss was out on the trail today she really went hard on this issue and has been going hard on this issue for months now, this moment though for her, what do you make of it . Back in the beginning of the Biden Administration, there was all these questions about what about Kamala Harris . People have called it the camila conundrum. Like shes somebody who seemed to have so much promise, but she was having so much difficulty ever since dobbe has una wato ally channeled botare legal rice or politivalu, or personal intests in a way thats been very forceful on this issue. And in 2022, when people were arguing that moshoug out abti, it was an economic eion, right . We should be talking Abt The Abortion Sevimes week mocrats ended up doi prett we now election, thiis what beuse there are a lot of votersso of them who pollsters willell you call emselves prolife, buty believe that row should be the Law Of The Land. So its not like its even minutes. People like to say, this is a very good, its a bad decision. But for the politics, the raw politics have it, its good for the democrat and for the Vice President who a lot of republicans thought they could run against her. Now shes spearheading maybe the biggest offensive issue that the democrats have this is her i mean, its, its a Strong Political voice, right . I mean, from the moment i was in the white house when she found out about the dobbs league. I wasnt our office. I was there when we talked about the conversation when the Dobbs Decision came out these are thing she really understands that a very core level political values immediately what the political consequences she did. And in fact, she started asking questions in the very first meetings of the lawyers to talk about what does this mean for ivf . She brought ivf up and one of our very first meetings, what this mean for lgbtq couples . What does this mean for men who are having challenges about we know and were in family relationships, theyre trying to figure this out. What does this mean for the women and young girls . What does this mean for medicine . Cation abortions . She started asking all the pearson questions. Now she wanted staff to come back as helloworld is happening, but she had a real keen understanding about what was at stake with its decision yeah. And i think whats also important to keep in mind here, just as well is that americans over the course of several months, several years tend to forget things. And it precisely a moment where the Republican Party wants people to forget about the Dobbs Decision about the implications in ramifications of abortion were they dont want a bunch of angry menn, and people who support reproductive rights. Reproductive rights on their agenda. Thats what theyve signed up for and so what weve seen is trump really waffling back and forth over the issue on the one hand, taking taking credit for it and saying, look, theyre 15 states that have passed really restrictive Abortion Laws in the ensuing years. And theyre six states that are about to pass even more. And on the other hand, thing week, youve gone too far. Im not responsible for that. And the problem is, you cant have your cake and eat it too. Yeah, theyre burned by their own success in all of these really conservative judges at the state level are putting the issue on the agenda every single day it seems like in this country Jamal Simmons and leah wright rigueur. Thank you both very much for joining us tonight. And up next my next guest says that the new civil war movie, maybe a warning for some, but an inspiration to maga extremists. Will discuss that plus breaking these that iran is now moving Military Assets as israel braces for an attack for watching news theres debris and this guy, parents, husbands and wives gone wish i couldve done something differently. You can just make it better for those that follow Space Shuttle columbia, the final flight, two part finale, sunday at nine on cnn dangerous ladders, gutter, mac yeah. No wonder you hate cleaning your gutters. Good thing. 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Yes, so i havent seen this movie earlier this week. And look, i guess my bce i talk a lot about extremism and disinformation and everything like that. So i guess this movie very much is supposed to serve as this warning of what a civil war in this country might look like today. I mean, its got these kind of graphic scenes of Washington Dc getting blown up. Not to ruin the ending, but the president get shot waiting room end it doesnt end well. But look, i think a few years ago had this movie came out. Well revolved, just said, thats extremely farfetched, but i think the people i want to see see this film was everybody felt a bit weird me out of it because it felts less farfetched than it might have some time ago. And look, i think theres just so many people that i speak to when im and wrote in the country that are chomping at the bit for some kind of conflict and i remember just two days before january 6. January 4, 2021, we were at a trump rally in georgia, and this is what somebody told us well, you accept joe biden has president know hell never be my president. Okay. But you know, you accept that hes going to be inaugurated . No, i dont i mean, how could that change at this point . Well, it could be civil war. You never know, you dont actually want to civil war. Day. I dont show us the Voting Machine shows the ballots, shows that this was a fair election, are will never accept another vote. Again. Ever. And its that belief in the live a stolen election that helps fuel talk of a second civil war. They see themselves as true patriots. The defenders of american identity, and they see themselves justified in using whatever means necessary to safeguard americas identity. And. Look i mean, i think its difficult to have this conversation would sounding hyperbolic because this idea of civil war is so remote, i think to all of us. I mean, we dont want but i think that is really what this movie ready confronts us waste, right . Is that there is this conflict that is simmering underneath the surface right now its pretty stark. I should mention the gentlemen we saw on that piece i havent spoken to that man since 4 january 2021. I dont know if his opinion has changed not accept another election. Again, there have been some in that time, but that just is to give you really a sense in a flavor. I think of how people talk about this. When you watch this film and weve, weve talked to other people on the show about it who were kind of just struck by it did it seem completely unrealistic to you what they were laying out . Yeah. Its not this is my first time doing a movie review on cnn have eight, but i like, i think any other points, even, even ten years ago, this would have just seen so dumb because i mean, i think that the movie is deliberately ambiguous by design actually in terms of dont really know whos the good guy whos the bad guy. You dont know how the civil war started, and you dont really know how it ends so there isnt that much of a story there in terms of a traditional movie flush. But i think that in itself leads us all to wonder and i think anybody who watches this movie takes from us maybe what they want them to cns. And thats what, thats what got to me because i was like, i know a lot of guys who will see this movie and well say yeah, its like a gate, a game plan, and maybe we can do it in a way. Yeah. I dont eat. Thanks very much for joining us. Have a great thank you, abi, ill be back next week or review of whatever next its company one Movie Reviews coming up on the show but weve got some major Breaking News tonight. Weve been Hearing Warnings about iran immediately attacking israel. And now the us expects that iran will strike inside of israel imminently. Retired general john allen will join me now next on these nine new ally in the fight hey, against climate change, this is new car business bucaram. We need to protect nature will do the rest in carbon cnn film the, april 21 at nine by 100 free with turbotax free edition roughly 37 of taxpayers qualify form ten, 40 and limited credits only see how it turbotax. Com thats me can anybody tell me what this is branded Kantian March 5th at the day. Just to sweat, youre getting older can be hard my job is to help women embrace their age. Can we do oh, no, no, no. Thats a child. You are a grown woman . Exactly just what we need. 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Iran is looking for revenge after the israeli struck targets inside of syria, taking out iranian commanders remember, since october 7, by that attack by hamas, iranianbacked militias have been constantly launching attacks across the region, including against us troops now, the tensions between those two countries have boiled for decades, but a strike inside of israel would escalate the situation beyond imagination. Just today, israeli warplanes carried out several airstrikes targeting likely hezbollah military buildings in lebanon not long after that, the iranianbacked hezbollah claimed responsibility for a barrage of rockets fired at the northern, at northern israel. All of them intercepted by israeli air defenses. And tonight, the pentagon is moving warships to defend israel if necessary. As cnn learns that iran is moving Military Assets of its own including drones and cruise missiles. Now, nations around the world are responding to this, including the us. They are warning their citizens to avoid traveling to iran. And for his part, President Biden suggests that actions may not be inevitable, but imminent youve made on israeli is from iran, mr. President my expectation sooner or later joining me now is retired fourstar general and former nato commander john allen general. Thank you for joining us. As we just laid out there, there has been quite a road to this moment, but it feels like a pivotal moment. Could it have been avoided . All right. I think that the israeli decisions to make to attack the irgc leadership in the consulate was one that they had come to a very careful decision on. They didnt tell us that they were going to do. Then thats created a source of friction and they didnt do it probably because they didnt want us to talk them out of it or to give us the opportunity for plausible denial. But these tensions have been growing, as you said properly, these tensions have been growing for some period of time the surrogates in the proxies in the region have been attacking american troops. And the israelis have been trading blows with hezbollah in the southern part of lebanon so i think this has been building over time and the iranian government frankly has to do something with regard to this attack. It doesnt have a lot of popular appeal on the streets in iran. And to do nothing shows that its weak so this is a difficult moment. Its a pivotal moment. I think the israelis are going to do everything they possibly can to prepare. Now, just make another point. Theres a Deep Culture Of Preemption in the way the israelis think about war. And 67, they preempted and there was a certain outcome and that war and 73, they didnt. And there was a certain outcome in that war i would be very surprised to see if the israelis have clear indications that an attack is imminent. Really about to happen, whether they would take that punch, whether we have the iranians deliver that punch a preemptive punch is what youre implying there could be yeah. So what about the Israeli Defenses . What does that look like . Is it the iron dome can civilians ultimately be at risk if there isnt attack inside of israeli borders . Sure. There could easily be a real threat to the civilians the israeli air and Missile Defense system is layered. We have iron dome and it is supported by the arrow Ballistic Missile, anti Ballistic Missile system. Theyre very sophisticated. Theyre networked. And as you might imagine, the israelis have a deployed that system, all of them in a layered manner. To defend the northern port part of israel. And the principle of Population Centers its also important for the iranians to remember that the American People and the israeli people are inextricably linked and many, in many different ways. And there are thousands of americans in israel. And so an attack on israel in many respects is an attack on the American People. And President Biden has a Second Amendment or an article to responsibility under the constitution to protect americans. And thats why he said to iran today, gave them both advice and im warning. He said, dont dont attack israel because of the likelihood to be great, not just that there would be loss of israeli life, but loss of American Life as well. Given what you just laid out, that article two responsibility and power, how likely is it that the United States could end up having to defend israel if this because comes at a wider hotter conflict well, let decisional have to be made by the president and of course, youll consult with his Military Leadership and make sure that the congress has informed on the matter, will be consulting and we are right now the centcom commander, Central Command commander is on the ground and israel consulting with the Minister Of Defense and the chief of staff, these defense forces. So that conversation is ongoing. The forces that we are moving into the region are there to protect american troops, to protect american installations, but many of those forces have the capacity to augment israeli air and Missile Defense capabilities as well. And were positioning some of those in the Eastern Mediterranean to be able to do that whats the likelihood of the attack only the iranians know. But back that weve made it clear in the intelligence from the intelligence that we have been talking about the president in particular should be very clear message to the iranians that we know what youre doing. We know youre preparing something and you should know that were ready to react. If you do to defend our ally in israel into defend our own people and our own installations in the region is it likely do you think that the iraqi would sorry, the attack would come directly from iran or perhaps from one of their proxies in the region i think theres a number of different ways this could unfold. It could unfold where theres no attack at all. And some of this is intended simply to drive up the tensions in the region the iranians have proven us over, over the years that there theyre pretty patient in their vengeance, and their revenge and Israeli Mission, an attack on an Israeli Mission in europe, for example, or some other place in the world might ultimately be the reciprocation of the retaliation that iran meets out in terms of whether iran would directly attack israel from iranian territory. Thats a big risk for them. Its an enormous risk for them they should know that should the United States enter this conflict. The target list and iran is long and its well rehearsed and the United States knows exactly where to go and what to hit and how to hit it. So this is not theoretical for the United States in terms of how we might respond if they attack American Forces or american installations, or Kill American Citizens in israel what the proxies that youre talking about, the well be the first line of alternative, whether its hezbollah in Southern Lebanon or attacking American Forces through proxies and surrogates in iraq or in syria or as weve already seen, the houthis are attacking shipping and disrupting shipping and the red sea in the babelmandeb, the iranians have a large number of options available to them yeah, coming from iranian territory and attacking israeli territory is an escalatory measure. Weve not seen in this region. And the iranians and to think that very clearly before they think that over very clearly before they launch that attack, general john allen. Thank you very much for all of that. And tonight, months after hundreds of Palestinian Americans were evacuated from gaza, one us citizen says that he has been left behind. His name is kelly said more toga and he is a 21 yearold Business Student Born in oxford, mississippi. His family left for gaza roughly 20 years ago. But today, hes locked lost his home and has been displaced multiple times caught in the crosshairs of this war, along with 2 million others, collides attorney has says that he has been approved by the State Department to leave gaza, but he has not appeared on final exit list, which is controlled by israeli and egyptian officials now as the humanitarian crisis in gaza grows, so do his pleas for safety khalid more joins me from rafah, gazas most Southern City along with his lawyer, maria kari. Thank you both for making the time to be with us. Colored. Can you tell us first of all, where you are and what you and your family are going through from inside of gaza, right now i am in rafah we can throw far about the four months foot locker for four months or four months ago its very difficult for lifeyear and rafah. Everything is expensive. And, you the food or we have, we have suffering four available food and clean water and escape and skateboard or place to place for looking for safety i just want to explain as youre talking, theyre colored to the audience that youre coming to us from rafah, where as youve just been saying, its very difficult to live, but the connection is difficult as well. Youre saying that youre in a Dental Clinic with your family afraid, obviously as the war continues, maria, i do want to bring you in here youve been working to evacuate other Palestinian Americans out of gaza since the beginning of this war these families have faced all kinds of challenges and escaping there, but were now six months in. Im surprised that there are still americans actively trying to get out that cant. Why is this happening thats a good question. I was surprised when a called, contacted me just a few weeks ago. So hall has been begging the State Department for help evacuating for about four months now at this point, every highlevel official at the State Department and the white house is personally aware of the dire situation called and his family are facing and i can tell you that the whole process has been a black box and an absolute nightmare. To date, the Biden Administration has not made any meaningful progress to ensure the safe evacuation of Palestinian Americans like khalid in fact, ive continued to americans tapped into gaza and all of them are getting a run around. Just like collagen his family. So call i just want to ask you very simply, do you feel abandoned by your government, by the United States yeah, of course. I want to live gaza as soon as possible and eye contact the embassy in jerusalem and the embassy in tehran. Im told us that that we want to leave this horrible, horrible fate and gaza but actually no one, no one helped us. They told us that we cannot, we cannot help you 4444 actually for four months. And the beginning of december thats really sad to hear. Im incredibly sorry that this is what you and your family are going through. A khalid. Thank you very much for being with us, maria. Thank you also, for facilitate hitting this thing. Thank you. And thank you for watching news night. Laura coates live starts next when barbara switch to turbotax i wrote four generations of Family Tradition i want to make perfume so i need barbers, new psychic counts, like guaranteeing her maximum refund intuits turbotax meet barkley. Hes part pitbull import masterpiece meet the puzzle revolution hydro steam. 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