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Visit bayareafastrak. Org ase so go pay your unpaid tolls y and keep your wheels on the you are live in the cnn newsroom, im jim acosta in washington. Good evening, prosecutors in the 2020 Election Meddling case against former President Donald Trump want the judge to place new restrictions on what trump can say publicly about the matter. The Special Counsel has asked u. S. District judge Tanya Chutkan not for a gag order specifically they say but for what they call a narrow welldefined restriction arguing that trump continues to make, quote, disparaging and inflammatory attacks against people involved in the case including the judge herself, which could lead Trump Supporters to threaten or intimidate witnesses. During a Campaign Speech last night here in washington, d. C. , trump lashed out at the Special Counsel jack smith accusing him of infringing on his rights. Hes a deranged individual, and he wants to take away my First Amendment rights. They went to court to get an order that i cant speak. You got to understand, im the leading candidate by 50 points, and im leading biden by a lot, and they want to see if they can silence me. Previously in an august hearing, the judge warned trump against inflammatory comments and told him his right to free speech was not absolute, argue t ing that in a criminal case like this one, the defendants free speech are subject to the rules. Here to discuss this is former federal prosecutor shan wu. What do you think. Its good to show the former president showing affection for the First Amendment. Do we see enough reason here for something along the lines of a gag order, restrictions, limitations on what trump can say . Hes already under these restrictions. He had been warned to do that. The prosecution is kind of laying some foundation here for the record to be set hoping the judge will warn him again in writing this time, and then, you know, he could be subject to sanctions. Theoretically, a normal defendant might find himself behind bars, possibly financial sections but they have to delay the record here for it, and its actually a tough call for the judge because of the whole president ial campaign First Amendment issue. Trumps really playing into that. At this point, his defense and campaign are absolutely one in the same. There is a clear, bright line that she can use that he could follow which is say what you want about there being no evidence against him, but you cant name people. You cant target people. And that would be a bright line. In that video, you saw and hes done this repeatedly, refer to the Special Counsel, jack smith, as quote, deranged. Can the judge say to trump, you cant say that anymore . Because it seems to me, and i have to think that the judge is mindful of this, that trump is almost setting a trap, you know, the more restrictions they place on him, the more eager he is to want to violate those restrictions to see if he can draw the judge into a situation where shes punishing him, and he could use that to rev up his support supporters more and more. Thats clearly crossing the line. You think it crosses the line for him to call jack smith deran deranged. Absolutely. Original what she said, you cant target particular people, cant talk about the court, government personnel, including the prosecutors. No question thats over the line. Calling the prosecutor deranged has nothing to do with your guilt or innocence. Youre not saying i have a right to be heard, they dont have any proof. Its a personal attack on the prosecutor. And when you do that, the Special Counsels point, that prosecutors point is it makes other people worried that theyll be attacked personally, and there has been violence from his supporters. I think thats going to be pretty clearly crossing a line. The question is what kind of sanction do you impose, and to your point, leaning into imposing sanctions, maybe it will cause delay in the trial. Maybe a whole side show on whether he has to be held in contempt or held in jail. Theoretically, i was going to ask you this. What can the judge do about this specifically . If she goes Down The Rabbit Hole of setting up hearings, lets talk about what trump can or cannot say publicly about this case. That is a delay mechanism. That certainly could be a delay mechanism. Shes experienced and savvy with criminal defense tactics, having been one herself. I think she wont go down the Rehab Rabbit Hole too far, but any hearing, litigation is further incremental delay. Let me ask you this, she said if trump continued with this rhetoric, she would be forced to move quickly to hold the trial sooner. Could she do that . Is there a card that could be played here . I was skeptical of the card. Im not going to give the defense time to prepare because your client is violating the conditions. Its apples and oranges. She was using that as maybe pressure against trump. In reality, shes still going to have to make the same findings that theres been enough discovery, enough time to prepare. And what you do you think th legal team having the judge recuse herself, pointing to comments she has made in the past involving january 6th Capitol Rioters and talking about how, you know, trump remains free and so on, they say this is an example of bias, and all of that. What is your sense of it . That seems really weak. Looking at the actual comments, they seem very weak. Shes not indicating some sort of Prejudgment Bias towards him, so it almost sound as if when they put forward that kind of request, theyre almost channelling him. That really his legal team is just speaking on his behalf. Thats not really a good sign, is it, for the legal team if he is going after the judge and so theyre going to go after the judge . Yeah, theyre really not doing their job. Granted, tough job to control him, but your job as a Defense Counsel is not to cave into everything the client says, and potentially get the client in worse trouble where some years down the road, the client comes back and said, malpractice, you did a bad job. We know the Special Counsel has some of trumps private twitter communication, which is very interesting, the Social Media Platform turned over more than 30 direct messages from his account, apparently, after receiving a Search Warrant from prosecutors in this probe. What do you think of that . I mean, that is fascinating. Yeah, its we always talk about the state of mind, and how would they prove trumps state of mind. This is actually great evidence of that. I mean, hes actually doing that himself. Its not some staff doing Social Media Promotion for him. It gives insight into what he was thinking, and importantly, who he may have been talking to during those critical periods and what is he expressing about his real views of both the election as well as his real views of what they should be doing . Theoretically speaking, these are communications we didnt know about before, and if they are revealed, could be the evidence we have talked about this or speculated about this, that maybe the Special Counsel has evidence or has information that the publics just not aware of at this point, and potentially this could be part of that, i suppose. Absolutely. And for a man whos supposedly famous for not keeping a written record of everything, this is like in the electronic journal. Thats true, and its another example of how he spent too much time on twitter. Yes. In the documents case, the judge ruled on how trump will be restricted on how and when he can look at and talk about classified information, if i have that right. That may play a role in the evidence against him. The trump team is trying to down play the significance of this, the seriousness of how he handled those records. What do you make of that . Its very significant. They basically wanted to put together the secure compartmentalized information, the skiff, at maralago, my goodness, this is where he was keeping stuff, why would you let him set that up. The judge didnt go along with that. The judge is saying, you have to go with the Court Security officers rules about this, like in any case with sensitive classified information. There will be a place for you and your team to view it. But its going to be particularly carefully controlled. At least on paper. Judge cannon is saying were not going to be making this a very easy generous situation where you can let anybody you want look at these documents. It needs to be carefully controlled, and she even pointed out that mishandling these documents. These are documents that dont belong to you. These are the property of the United States right now, and you have to handle them appropriately. Thats significant. Apparently in the Meet The Press interview thats going to air tomorrow, we have seen clips of it that he continues to maintain that he can just declassify documents unilaterally. And that is just not the case. You know, especially when youre an expresident , you cant declassify anything when youre an expresident. What do you make of that, the fact that hes going out making these kinds of comments that i would think are detrimental to his cause . Its him, continuing the only path he knows how to do, thats his defense, theyre my documents. He kind of puts his argument out and lets the lawyers figure out, is there something we can do with that, come up with the legal theory to support that. Its not looking good for thathat. One genuine confusion, hes used to the world of civil litigation. There are suits going on, is not incivil litigation, and you know, hes right about one thing, when youre a defendant, a target in a criminal prosecution, the government is coming after you with their tools, their power. He doesnt quite get that. Hes not the government anymore. No, hes not. That is not the case. Shan wu, as always, thank you very much. Kcoming up on the strike, te big three Auto Companies and the uaw are at the bargaining table. Well take you live to the picket line next. Acquitted on all charges at least down in texas. Texas Attorney General ken p paxton is cleared of 16 articles of impeachment, but still in major legal jeopardy. Well explain that. 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Its really the first sign of progress we have seen in negotiations between the union and any of the big three, as you mentioned this between the union and ford, they met this morning and a source with uaw tells our cnn team, quote, we had reasonably productive conversations with ford today. Reasonably productive, jim. Certainly not a deal, but it is significant given the hostile words we have heard between these sides over the past couple of days. We know the union was set to meet with stellantis and General Motors as well today. No word yet on any progress in those negotiations. But, look, there have been really, really, a lot of hostility as i said between the sides, and just yesterday, we got a better sense of how big the divide has been, where the head of the union has said 80 of the members demands have not been met yet in any of the counter offers they have received from these big three car makers. Ford, General Motors and stellantis. Until a deal is reached, were going to continue to see this. These picket lines, 24 hours a day in toledo, ohio, stellantis, these striking workers are making 500 a week of strike pay. I want to bring one in. Ryan, you brought your daughter here today, talk to me first about your take on this news that there has been some progressm progress. I know you worked for stellantis, but some progress in the conversations between the union and ford, what do you think . It makes me hopeful theyre getting the message that were on strike and ready for this, and we have been preparing and bring a good offer to the table. Reporter why did you want your daughter to be here today . I brought her out to get her involved, so she knows whats going on with dad at work. She doesnt know a whole lot. Shes only 6, so she doesnt know about the union, about uaw and what we stand for and everything. Reporter what do you hope comes out of this . Getting better pay, and a lot of parttime people getting them on a path to fulltime so they can get in and, you know, work like we have been working. Reporter thank you so much, ryan. Thanks. Reporter and the first sign of any progress. Well see what happens with the talks with General Motors and stellantis. Yeah, gabe, that dad doing a good job there. Im sure the kids of the lot of workers are wondering whats going on with their parents, theyre not at work. Two lawmakers say they might be laying off workers as a result of the strike. What do we know about that . Reporter yeah, thats right. We know that 2,600 workers, 600 of them are ford employees, 2,000 of them General Motors employees in kansas are now going to be laid off because essentially their facilities cant operate as long as these three facilities are on strike. They cant get the proper parts in or maybe they cant distribute their materials. The big concern again is theres going to be this ripple effect. Thats the ripple effect, and look, theres been talk from the head of uaw, the union, that there could be additional facilities that strike in the days and weeks ahead, depending on progress of the negotiation. Either way, we are starting to see that ripple effect, the 2,600 employees that are going to be laid off. The union saying they wont go without an income, those workers who are not officially on strike. That presumably that may mean, jim, theyre going to get strike pay, that hundred dollars a day or 500 a week, but we really dont have a ton of details we know there could be more layoffs were going to see in the coming days. Gabe cohen, thank you very much. We appreciate it. In texas, a victory for the states Republican Attorney general who just survived an impeachment fight brought by members of his own party. The state senate in austin voted to acquit ken paxton on 16 charges related to using his office to help a prominent donor. Paxton says now that the quote, truth, has prevailed, sas he says, he will get back to work defending the Constitutional Rights of texans. Ed lavandera joins us, was this a big surprise that it ended this way . Reporter i think there were a lot of people here in texas who thought that given the super majority that republicans have in the texas senate that an acquittal was likely. It is still very dramatic and uncertainty as to how this was going to play out. If people are surprised by anything, perhaps in the end was just how overwhelming the amount of republican support turned out being in the state senate. There were 18 of the 19 republicans that were el i didnt believe eligible to vote. Ken paxtons wife was not allowed to vote. Ken paxton needed ten votes to survive. He got almost all of them. Two republicans crossed the aisle to vote for conviction. Paxtons lawyers say this is total vindication. This is a trial that should have never happened. Period, full stop. The right result happened, but it shouldnt have gotten this far. We are proud of the case we put on. We should not have had to prove our innocence, but thats what we did, and we believe that the court reached the right verdict. Were very proud of the work we did. You as soon as the votes were read, it has erupted into a political civil war among texas republicans, and what this case has done is expose the deep divide between the extreme right wing of the Republican Party in texas, which is represented by ken paxton, and other republ republicans. You know, in the house of representatives, there were an overwhelming number of republicans that voted to impeach him, and now threats of going after those republicans as political retribution, the lieutenant governor, dan patrick, ripping into the House Speaker for bringing these articles of impeachment forward. The House Speaker says that this was all orchestrated from the very beginning. This result was something that was inefvitable, and accusing impeding justice in this case, and one of the house Impeachment Managers had this to say. Our lawyers, the board of managers presented overwhelming evidence that ken paxton is the most corrupt politician in the state of texas at this time. And the republicans in the texas senate just returned him to the office of top cop. I will rely on what i said on the floor of the texas house, god help us. So, jim, all of this isnt over for ken paxton. He is reinstated as the Attorney General of texas, so he can go back to work. His legal troubles are not over. He faces State Security criminal charges that have loomed over him since he took office as Attorney General years ago, and hes also facing federal investigation for some of the very same issues, and crimes that he was accused of in these articles of impeachment. So all of that still looming over him as well. Jim. Ed lavandera in texas for us, thank you very much. 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They argue the country lags dangerously behind other modern democracies, and issues like january 6th, but also because it hasnt taken any steps to elimina eliminate minority rule, and that they say, has allowed minority to thwart the will of american voters. Joining us now are the authors of the book Stepven Levitsky an daniel ziblatt. A lot of people are trying to figure out what is going on with our country, why is our democracy in peril, it feels like to a lot of americans. But lets get to the title because that, i think, we just need to get that out of the gate. What does Tyranny Of The Minority mean, and ill start with you, steven . Well, we are the only president ial democracy in the world where the president can lose the election, lose the popular vote and become president. We are one of the few democracies in the world where the a major legislative body, the senate, the party that loses the popular vote can control and routinely does control the senate. We are the only established democracy in the world where justices have lifetime tenure, theres no term limits, theres no retirement age. So this set of institutions and others allows political minorities to systematically thwart, and sometimes govern over majorities. Quickly, think back to 2016. Donald trump lost the popular vote and won the presidency. In the u. S. Senate, the democrats won the popular vote and the republicans that came by the way with control of the senate. That president and that senate went on to nominate and confirm three justices which totally transformed the nature of the supreme court. We have one of the very few democracies in the world where minorities, political minorities can routinely block, thwart, even rule over majorities. Right, and, daniel, let me ask you this, you both argue in the book that the Republican Party has turned away from democracy, and rather than expel these antidemocratic extremists from their ranks, the gop has essentially accepted and made room for them starting with the former president of course. How big is the authoritarian movement in the party, would you say, is it the party . You have to think that to be a Political Party thats committed to democracy, you have to do three basic things, first of all, you have to accept elections, win or lose. Second of all, you have to never use violence to gain power or hold on to power, and critically, you have to also distance yourself from political actors who engage in the first two behaviors. Wh whats so shocking and troubling about the current dynamic in the United States is that we have a Political Party thats violating increasingly all three of those, especially the third category. When you think about mainstream politicians, people who are business attire, suits, that look like normal democratic politicians, they look like theyre committed to democracy. They sound like theyre committed to democracy. If they know their allies are engaging in violence or election denialism, to accept that, not condemn it, not say we have nothing to do that, thats unacceptable is to enable an authoritarian strand in the final party. A final note, we have studied democracies and democratic breakdowns, we have discovered the enablers, those who look like democratic politician, but who are not are the ones who get democracy into trouble. And one of the things were covering today is how down in florida, the florida Republican Party has said theyre not going to have this Loyalty Pledge anymore. That was what donald trump wanted. He didnt want to have a Loyalty Pledge in order to get on the florida ballot. Let me ask you about, this it takes me to my next question, is a lot of this about donald trump, if he becomes the president next year, what does that mean for the country, but if he loses, could that mean that some of the problems youre talking about, they might be alleviated somewhat . What do you think . Its only partially about donald trump. As daniel just said, whats really critical, a single leader, even a very popular demagogue like donald trump cannot destroy a democracy by himself. It takes the enabling of a Political Party, a major Political Party, the toleration, the support, the protection, of a major Political Party to enable him to do a lot of damage, and so the problem is that the Republican Party leadership, even though in private they will speak very badly of donald trump, continue to support him in public, and one reason that they do that, and this gets back to the minority rules side of our book, is that the Republican Party, as a whole, nationally, doesnt have to win national majorities. It can win the presidency through the Electoral College. Its lost the popular vote in seven out of the last eight elections, and yet its won three out of the last eight elections. Same thing in the senate, they dont need to win the popular vote to win control of the senate. A party that doesnt need to win majorities, thats protected in a sense by the constitution, can get away with playing around with donald trump, rather than looking for a candidate or a platform that can win national majorities. And daniel, that takes me to my next question, you write that the constitution is part of the problem here. Youre proposing the elimination of the Electoral College, noting were the only democracy in the world, and i do think it is worth underlining, were the only democracy in the world that has an Electoral College. Lets talk about that. Of course our constitution is a remarkable document, and theres many great virtues to it. One of the things we have to remember is that since its founding, we have improved the constitution. We have done the hard work of making our constitution more democratic. You know, women got the right to vote at the beginning of the 20th century by amending the constitution. We began to elect senators rather than appoint senators at the beginning of the 20th century and our democracy has strengthened itself over time through amendments, through improving it. Whats tragic in the last 50 years, we have stopped doing that work. Other democracies have continued to make their constitutions more democratic, we abandoned that. We laid out 15 proposals for Institutional Reforms that we think are not only essentially but at some level are possible and would help us restore the faith we feel like we need to have in our democracy. Didnt we get close to getting rid of the Electoral College. Richard nixon of all people sounded favorable to the idea . That might strike people as being very strange. Steven, let me have you take that one . We got very very close to the Electoral College. As daniel said, we have stopped doing the work of trying to make our system more democratic over the last 50 years. Most of us cant remember a period anymore where we actually thought seriously about reforming the constitution but we used to do it. And we tried and came very close in the late 1960s. The leaderships of both Political Parties supported abolition of the Electoral College. Richard nixon, the afl cio, chamber of commerce, american bar association, the house voted overwhelmingly to abolish the Electoral College. There was a majority in the senate and Something Like 70, 75 of americans in polls supported it. But it didnt get the 2 3 that it needed in the senate, and so it died. Minority rule was protected there, i guess. Finally, daniel, one last question to you, what do you say to critics out there who might, you know, put forward the argument that in some cases, you need to have the power of the minority protected. If the shoe is on the other foot, and democrats were in the minority across the board. Might they want to have at least some say in how things are governed . I would ask, is it partisan to think that the person who wins the most votes should win office . And no other domain of our life do we think majorities shouldnt govern, but we have this one single carve out in our political system. So, you know, sometimes the Electoral College has benefitted democrats. Sometimes its benefitted republicans. Sometimes the filibuster benefits democrats, sometimes it benefits, republicans. The point is that its unfair, and thats why we have a set of proposals that we think ultimately will help american democracy as a whole. Check out the book. It reminds me from the line with the x files, this is america, the guy with the most votes doesnt always win. Thank you for your time. Appreciate it. Check out the book, and well be right back. At farmers, we offer boboth Quality Insurance and great savings. crowd cheers here, take mine. Farmers Mnemonic did we just get hustled . Theres no way they were 70. Interesting. Hm . Its both an electric and a gas car. Yeap. 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Like ups or fedex, personally for you, jim acosta. Good. Yes, right. Heres the situation, i looked back at how much the president ial polls since 1960s. On average, 11 point difference between where the polls are at this particular point and where the results ended up. To put that into some perspective, look where it was a week out. The polls missed by about 2 points on average. You can think of races like 1992 perhaps where of course george h. W. Bush was well ahead at this point. You could think of races like 1980, right, where you basically had this back and forth between reagan and carter, and it only broke in the final seconds of that campaign towards ronald reagan. Even an election like 2008, where at this point the race was very close, and ended up that barack obama blew john mccain out. The fact is if you look to the long arch of history, the polls sometimes are right but very often dont tell you very much of whats going to happen a year from now. Well, and i feel bad putting you on the spot, harry, because it does appear to show that at this point, you have to take some of these polls with a grain of salt, and i know you as a numbers guy, you dont mind that so much. What about the last few years. Have they told a different story . Yeah, i think this is the real question, and our age of polarization, is the electric more static than it is say, 20, 40 years ago. Look at this, how much have the polls missed as average as 2020. Thats 2 points. Thats as predictive as one week out. You look at 2016, Hillary Clinton in the popular vote was slightly ahead of Donald Trumps thats what ended up happening. Last time around, joe biden had a clear lead over donald trump, and thats what ended up happening, so i think the question is, do we look like we did over the longterm or whe i a new era. The polls look pretty predictive. Theyre deadlocked, if thats where we are in a year from now, that might be what we end up with. A lot of democrats are joining the uaw picket lines. Do we have any idea where americans are m ccoming down wi this strike or is it too early . What can you tell us . This is a poll before the strike took place. We knew the vast majority of americans were on the side of uaw. Look at this, 75 to 19 . You rarely ever see anything like that in politics. Wow. Yeah, right, exactly, thats the word. I dont think its exactly surprising that these senators, Democratic Senators in the sort of Mid Western Swing states are on the side of uaw, especially ahead of the elections next year because i think they believe its a vote getter, lines up for the policies, and thats the sweet spot. Something lines up with where you want to be the case, and lines up with where the electorate is, not a surprise youll be joining the picket lines. Theres a general sense that people think ceo pay is totally out of control in this country, and that might be feeding into this as well. I think thats exactly right. Yeah, and lets switch to football. You know, i know you and i like to talk about this. Were one week into the nfl season. The Washington Commanders here in the nations capital, they were victorious. Your team, not so much. What are the numbers showing us so far, where things stand in the nfl . I thought the bills were going to be closer than that, but, you know, wow. I would just note that you winning in the opening week, me losing, its the first time thats happened since 2018. The bills better get their turns on the right lane and figure out whats going on in Western New York tomorrow otherwise i might have to join a picket line against josh allen. Im faithful, i believe in it. Lets go bills tomorrow against las vegas. And i think the other thing we have to adhere is that the commanders just havent been winning a whole lot in recent years. Its a bit of an anomaly that its working out this way. Harry, well check back with you as the season grinds on. 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