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Momentum, she gets a critical endorsement from a key democratic group. The Congressional Black Caucus pac. No doubt her campaign is looking to the february 27th democratic primary in South Carolina where, check the numbers with me, as of monday, 28 of registered voters. That includes all parties. Are africanamerican. The lawmakers who endorsed her today also took some digs at Bernie Sanders. Without mentioning him by name. So you judge a person by their results. And there is no question that the person that has obtained the most results and benefits for communities of color and everyone in america, in my opinion, but especially getting democrats elected, theres its not even close, its not even close, its Hillary Clinton. We need a president who doesnt simply campaign and just promise wonderful things. But things that are politically impossible to achieve. Lets take it now straight to the debate and my friend beyawn that ke brianna keilar, at the site of the president ial debate. Heres my question to you. Youve been covering Hillary Clinton for two years now. If were hearing from her campaign she will be more aggressive, what exactly do you think that means . Thats really the question, right, brooke, is she going to really in a sharp way critique Bernie Sanders and certainly the environment is ripe for it, but the other issue is think about leading up into iowa. We talked about this. She was really attacking Bernie Sanders sharply and then she pulled back a week or so before the iowa caucuses. I think there was some concern that maybe that wasnt working for her. What weve seen recently is som husband, bill clinton, and some prominent africanamericans today in her corner attacking Bernie Sanders and doing that for her, but what we do know is she is at least going to be very aggressive in trying to draw some contrast on a number of issues. Gun, for instance, crime, immigration, and talking to sources, brooke, one of the areas she really is going to try to drive home tonight is casting Bernie Sanders as someone who is breaking with president obama and that she is the one who wants to build on his legacy. All right, brianna keilar, thank you very much. Again, the debate, 9 00 eastern. Well be watching. Meantime, senator sanders has gotten some significant support from prominent africanamericans, including activist professor cornell west, ben jealouss who once led the naacp and the famed writer, the latest voice planning to vote for sanders. Hollywood royalty and actor and activist Harry Belafonte. To maybe consider and reconsider whether it is that Bernie Sanders offers. He offers us a chance to declare unequivocally that there is an america, that there is a group of citizens with a deep caring for where our nation goes and what it does in the process of going. Lets dig into the Clinton Sanders race with democratic strategist and attorney angela rye who is a board member of that black caucus congressional pac. Author and essayist Rich Benjamin director of fellows at Public Policy organization dmos. Welcome to all of you. Thank you for joining me. Thank you. I know you are my fellow journalist, youre going to be the neutral person here. The other two dem. With my two dems, show of hands, do you know either of you if youre voting for Hillary Clinton . Raise your hand if you are. Okay. What about Bernie Sanders . Okay. I dont know if we have undecided people or people who dont want to share but let me just begin then, angela, with you, since we have the news of the cbc pac today of which you are a member, you know, endorsing Hillary Clinton. You abstained. Tell me why. Brooke, because im on with people like you. And i think its important for me to maintain my ability to be as neutral and as objective as possible. Particularly in this election where we have so much at stake. You have the rising of black lives matter over the last couple of years of course with the start of the death of Trayvon Martin and i think things have gotten worse. Of course we know that there are white supremists that say for example that Race Relations have gotten bad and worsened under president obama because of barack obama and i dont believe thats the case at all. I think that people are start really starting to show their true colors. I think it is time for us to take Race Relations in this country, Racial Injustice in this country, economic injustice and rage disparities very seriously. For that reason alone, its very important that every candidate on both sides of the aisle are taking black voters and our issues very, very, very seriously. All right. Rich, im turning to you. Do you know i know angela was saying she wants to remain neutral because shes on tv with people like me. Do you know in your heart who you want yet . I have leanings. But i dont have a decisive answer. I wouldnt say it publicly anyway. So im following the race closely. A great race in terms of interest for a lot of democrats. We talk a lot, especially looking ahead to South Carolina, and the nonwhite vote, which is so, so, so important. And when you look at the numbers and how there are some who assume its in the bag for Hillary Clinton just based upon the legacy and bill clinton seen as the first, you know, black president. Youre friends with this writer, with the nation, michelle alexand alexander, she wrote this piece, entitled, why Hillary Clinton doesnt deserve the black vote. She wrote about the crime bill, others, Hillary Clinton supported, decimated black america. Do you stand with your friend on that or disagree . Yes, yes. They decimated black america in terms of unemployment, in terms of the incarceration of black people in prison and some of this are beyond the clintons, when we see how the deindustrialization of this country has led to the loss of employment. Some of these are technical factors that go beyond Hillary Clinton. So the main point of that article is to sort of question really who is supporting Hillary Clinton in terms of black communities and why and not to take for granted that every black person is supporting Hillary Clinton just because her former president clinton was deemed the first plan president. Let me play some sound. Vanessa, i want to tee this up for you, you know, georgia congressman and sort of civil rights icon john lewis was speaking today during the cbc endorsement of clinton and that is what he said. But i never met him. I would chair the committee for three years, from 1963 to 1966. I was involved in the sitins, the freedom ride, the march on washington, the march from selma to montgomery and directed the Voter Education project for six years. But i met Hillary Clinton. He says he met Hillary Clinton. He never saw Bernie Sanders. As we all know, he marched with dr. King, vanessa, do you think that will be damaging to senator sanders at all . Potentially for those who were considering him or thinking about him. Quite honestly, as was mentioned earlier, whats really important in this race is not to kind of look to even the leaders to say how were going to vote, but its for these leaders to actually the candidates to actually address the issues that are of most importance to the voters, right, especially to black women what are you hearing from your essence readers . They want to hear about Affordable Health case living wage, college affordable. Our younger audience 18 to 34 wants to hear about criminal justice reform, they want to hear about Public Education reform. Those are the issues that are critical importance to our audience and the candidates that actually speak to those things that affect our everyday lives are the ones that are really, i believe, in this particular year, are the ones that are going to move the needle. If they really want our vote, they shouldnt assume that the black vote is an automatic. They should see were not all monolithic and they should address the issues were telling them are important to us. Not all monolithic. Im looking at you out of the corner of my eye youre nodding. Because you have to realize whats the average age of the cbc members. We have to consider millennials. A lot of these mill lenles were born after john lewis great feat, after these cbc members were voted into office first. So theyve seen the benefits of the Civil Rights Movement positively and negatively in terms of the backlash that the other guest spoke about with obamas presidency. So how are they going to vote . And the candidates have to address the issues that were mentioned, affordable housing, debt free college, minimum wage. Lets say these millennials, what endorsement do you think matters the most . These lawmakers . Ie, the john lewises . Or the cornell wests, harry b l belafon belafonte, what do you think resonates most with the younger folks . I want to back check something. He was just on with don lemon last night defending his endorsement of Hillary Clinton. Hes also a cbc board member. The thing we have to realize is were now in a paradigm where there is a group of young people rising up saying you dont speak for me, whether youre Harry Belafonte or cornell west or ben jealouss you dont speak for me, inhave the power of my twitter feed and my followers. I have the power of my instagram feed. I have the power of my bull horn on my campus and you dont speak for me because im just as powerful. That has to mean ben jealouss endorsement, when you look at what he has done, that has to mean something. It doesnt mean anything to me. That is someone who respects ben jealous but i still have the power to exercise my own voice, to know the issues that matter to me, to know what resonates to me. What spoke to me more loudly is the fact that Bernie Sanders has this super pac backing him. The nurses super pac. A room full of white women talking about how to talk to black women in carolina. If you want to talk to me, hire people that look like me. If you want to talk to me, get an ad firm that looks like me and can speak in my voice. That is whats most important in this election. That is a powerful comment. Were going to end it there. Angela, thank you. Rich benjamin, vanessa de lucca, thank you all. Its an important conversation and you make an excellent point. Tonight by the way, let me remind you, cnn will be simulcasting the pbs newshour live from milwaukee. You will find it right here on pbs and of course your local pbs station. Just in to cnn, new question also into the investigation over those american sailors briefly detained by iran a couple weeks ago. Straight to the pentagon to Barbara Starr for that. Brooke, were now finding out the Navy Investigation into the incident where ten sailors last month were briefly detained, that investigation expected to be wrapped up in the next couple of weeks. They are looking at the circumstances, the key issue is what led those sailors to actually wind up in iranian waters. What actually went wrong with their gps navigation equipment . Were told by an official familiar with all of this. Theyre looking at three interesting scenarios. Did the sailors actually just somehow misuse, misread the gps equipment, was there some technical fault with it, and a third scenario, is it actually possible that the iranians or some other entities sailing in those waters jamled the gps equipment causing it to malfunction, directing the sailors into iranian territorial waters when they didnt realize thats where they were going. So some really interesting, very hightech questions still about how all of this came to me. The Human Element very much still there. Weve seen the video, the sailors obviously looking distressed and anxious about their situation, and were also told today that the sailors have now reported to their counselors, their military counselors, that they underwent what is being called steady questioning by their iranian captors. Was it a formal interrogation, who knows, but these are very young people that were in a circumstance that was very distressing to them. They underwent steady questioning. That is a typical integration technique of a suspect in Law Enforcement, of a suspect in a war zone, to try and get them to say something. Thats a very well understood fact. It may go a long way to explaining some of the distress that the sailors were feeling. Brooke. As soon as you learn more, let us know. Thank you very much on those american sailors. And that investigation. Meantime, coming up, heres a headline for you. Jeb is not dead. One columnist says hes got a new win as his brother hits the trail with him. Which version of george w. Bush might be see . Plus, a showdown erupting after moscow accuses the american warplanes of bombing a war torn city. Cnn takes you inside syria and the u. S. Response. And my goodness, the cruise from hell. Well speak live with the passenger who just got off this nightmare ship about what happened on board and why the ships crew is in big, big trouble. Youre watching cnn. Well be right back. Right direction, it can be a burden. 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Dana millbank from the Washington Post writes, jeb is not dead, he seems comfortable in his own skin, he no longer hides from his own name, and he acknowledges that im part of the establishment. Dana milbank joins me now. One of my fast lines was actually this, considering bush was ready for embalming before tuesday night, the notion that jeb is not dead is noteworthy. Whats behind the turnaround, you think . Well, i mean, we have to keep it in perspective, first of all. The man got 30,000 something votes, 11 , fourth place in New Hampshire, and were all saying, hey, look at this, jebs the new flavor in town. We were doing that before the end of New Hampshire, by the way, all the snowball fights and the smiles, come on, yeah. Right. We have to keep it in perspective. Something is changing here. I think that, you know, going through that near death experience, hes become a much better candidate, a much better debater. Much better on the stump. And as i wrote, he seems to be comfortable. People are picking up on that. The crowds are drawing. When you see marco rubio faltering, you know, you see christie getting out of the race, fiorina getting out of the race, well, who do you have left . You have john kasich maybe but hes seen as maybe too moderate in a lot of these states. What seemed at one point to be impossible now seems at least plausible, that jeb bush actually could get a second wind. It actually does. Im wondering, you talk about this near death experience, does it stick . Were heading into South Carolina and potentially beyond. The pressure then gets to him. What do you think . Well, the pressure got to him early on. I think he was tested. Think about it, he was really only ton l only the obliterated by trump and he has become the antitrump. Think about it, trump got what, 35 of the vote in New Hampshire. That means a lot of republicans are still not ready to go with trump so he can potentially solidify that piece of the electorate and as you noted, you know, the bushes arent as strong in South Carolina in particular, and hes got a ton of money still. So he can potentially be viable elsewhere in the country, but of course the trump momentum also shows no sign of abating. More on that later in the show. Im staying with bush with you. The fact that his 90yearold mother, you know, who was phenomenal with crowds in New Hampshire. Looking ahead to South Carolina, we know his big brother will be on the trail. My question is this, which george w. Bush do you think well see, the more aggressive former president or the more, you know, embracing his brothers folksy texan . I would go for the latter. I think thats what w. Has been his entire post presidency. I doubt hell be giving a barn burner out there on the stump. I think its a good thing because its South Carolina and also because jeb has gotten to the point of saying im not going to hide from being a bush, i am part of the establishment so, you know, take it or leave it. I think he may be pleasantly surprised. Marco rubio aide was quoted as saying South Carolina is going to be a bloodbath. Marco rubio slammed of course his mentor, governor bush, along with trump and cruz in South Carolina today. Here is senator rubio. Donald trump has zero Foreign Policy experience. Negotiating a hotel deal in another country is not Foreign Policy experience. Jeb bush has no Foreign Policy experience period. Cruz, the only budget he voted for was a budget sponsored by rand paul that bragged about cutting defense spending. Jeb bush has no Foreign Policy experience. Just sort of staying on that thread. What do you think of that strategy, if we want to call this the rubio reboot, will it be effective, particularly regard to governor bush . Hes got a lot of targets to shoot at now. It is interesting he has finally included trump in the targets hes shooting at. You sort of get the feeling that marco rubio has had his rick perry oops moment. Very hard to recover from that, like we saw in New Hampshire. Maybe he can, but he suddenly got this exposure last week after doing very well in iowa and people saw him and said, wait a second, maybe this guy is an empty suit, so hes really going to be on the defensive. I think hes going to be on the s receiving end of this bloodbath more than hell dish it out. Dana milbank, thank you so much. Coming up next, dodging death and an uncertain future. Cnn follows the complicated and winding paths of the Syrian Refugees who are learning english in an attempt to resettle. Where theyre going, how theyre being received, you ywill want o stick around to watch this piece. Later, she says all hell broke loose. 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Cnns drew griffin visited a center in calgary where a lot of these families are right now. Its quiet facade can barely contain the joy inside. This is a resettlement house and its dinnertime. Corn, baby . Huge families, huge smiles. Cries, laughter and everywhere, children. They are all syrians. Refugees plucked from uncertain futures in jordan and lebanon. Selected under the canadian Refugee Resettlement program to be accepted as newly landed immigrants. Anush newman helps run this center. In three years, she says, everyone you see will be able to become a canadian. They really have nowhere else to go. No, they cant because the surrounding countries such as where they were, they dont give them citizenship so theyll remain as refugees for the rest of their lives. This person arrived just ten days ago. He and his wife and their four children fled aleppo syria. Their was constant bomba bombardme bombardment. They decided, lets leave before it gets worse. He went to lebanon to settle there as refugee. Do you miss syria . Of course, of course. From my heart. Were very, very happy and very, very relaxed. For the first time in years, he feels his family is safe. But theres a long way to go. They speak almost no english. They are new to just about every canadian custom. You shake hands with men and boys but not with the women. And we do a lot of parenting skills. The director here says that, too, will change and soon. In three months, if you talk to these children, you wont even recognize them as a refugee. Ten days ago, they didnt even know they were coming to canada. Now theyre here obviously so we realize that they have a lot of years and a lot of hopes. Most arrive in families. There are only a few single syrian men. Just as in the u. S. , the program has raised concerns about safety and terrorism. I got to ask you, they dont look dangerous to me. No, theyre fantastic people. Theyve gone through hell. While in the United States, theres still deliberation over just how many or even if Syrian Refugees should be brought into the country. By the end of february, canada will have reached its goal of bringing 25,000 Syrian Refugees on to its soil. Confident that its screening process can tell the bad guys from the good. Most canadians are not that worried about the security issue for these for the people weve selected. Reporter ian holloway, the dean of the university of calgary law school, also works with the canadian government reviewing its Security Intelligence operations. He says the refugees canada brings in are screened and quite frankly he sees them as no threat at all. We feel that we have been able to take reasonable measures to not guarantee, you can never guarantee these things, but to do everything to satisfy ourselves that the people weve taken in are not likely to be bad guys. To make sure canada follows the progress of its newly arrived immigrants for two years, all the children will go to school. Families will be helped to find work, housing and their ultimate goal, a permanent home in their new country. Canada. Drew griffin, cnn, calgary. Drew, thank you for that. Coming up next, former secretary of state Madeleine Albright suggesting women who dont vote for Hillary Clinton have a special place in hell. Well, my next guest says she is voting for Hillary Clinton precisely because shes a woman. Also ahead, johnny depp taking on the role of a lifetime. Forget scissor hands, forget jack sparrow, depp here playing the role of donald trump. Wait until you hear the back story. Lung, it was serious. Fortunately, my doctor had a game plan. Treatment with xarelto®. Hey guys hey, finally, somebody i can look up to. Besides arnie. Xarelto® is proven to treat and help reduce the risk of dvt and pe blood clots. 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So your sleep goes from good to great to wow only at a sleep number store, right now save 50 on the ultimate limited edition bed, plus 24month financing. Hurry, ends monday. Know better sleep with sleep number. All right, my next guest says she is voting for Hillary Clinton because she is a woman. A bold statement after controversial comments in the wake of steinem and albright ignited the conversation just this week about which candidate better represents women. My next guest writes this, quote, i stuck with hillary for the simple reason she is a woman. I did it for my newly dead mother who would have loved to see the day when a woman become president. My mother who was 21 years old when roe v. Wade passed and whose name Gloria Steinem was akin to beyonce now. Writer for the cut which focuses on women issues. Welcome. I wanted it better to come from you than me, if you dont mind, just reading a piece of the article. I recognize something in hillarys eyes. Theres something in her face sometimes, just a glimpse or whisper of a reaction. Shes trained herself. She knows every blink will be scrutinized. In the reading, i carry the endless discussions of her appearance, her inability to laugh or remember a joke. Speaking too loudly. Even a bathroom trip during the debate that made headlines. Watching the debate after my 2yearold daughter went to sleep, i felt like i wanted to throw up too. I felt like for the first time i felt for the first time an incredible overwhelming empathy for this woman standing on stage, a career politician, one of the most powerful women in the world. I wanted to fold her into my arms and say i know. What do you know . You know, i know that shes probably worked harder than every, you know, white man that shes running against. I know that shes worked harder for pretty much every, you know, accomplishment in her life. Sometimes i you know, i dont think that Hillary Clinton is a person who really gets a lot of empathy. She doesnt really seem like the kind of person that you want to hug or hang out with, certainly ive never felt that for her. And in this last cycle of debates, ive sort of begun to feel a real empathy for her and for what we have in common as women, which is really what i think is the most important. Thats the reason im voting for her. Because youre a woman, shes a woman. You know where i have to go from here. Yes. Im going to quote you. You say, i get that a lot of people including many extremely intelligence women think this is a very dumb way to choose a candidate to support. Dumb. Yes. That is one way to put it. Yes. Tell me why its not dumb. Well, the first thing is that people always default you. So wouldnt you vote for Carly Fiorina . No, i wouldnt. I would vet for Hillary Clinton because she believes, you know, largely the same things i believe. So i think, you know, if you equalize out two candidate, ones a man, ones a woman. I would choose the woman. I do think that thats not a stupid way to make a primary decision, you know, i wouldnt vote for sarah pailen. You do also make an interesting point on Bernie Sanders and how you say Bernie Sanders presence in this race has actually shaped Hillary Clinton, has made her better, has been better for her. Why . I think thats true of a lot of primary debates and i think thats part of the primary process. And what makes it so useful. Hes much farther left. Hillarys much more of a career politician so she tends to be more middle, you know, the word socialist isnt just thrown around bernie, like its a word he would use i think to describe himself. Absolutely. And so not a word that hillary would want anywhere to be near. What would you say to all these young women . Ive interviewed a bunch of them who believe i think one woman told me earlier this week, they believe that Hillary Clinton shoots for the moon, Bernie Sanders shoots for the stars. From this young woman, university of New Hampshire who wholeheartedly believes bernies it. I think hillary can win a general election. I dont know that bernie can. I love him too. But i do think she is a better youre thinking big picture . Laura june, come back. Any time. Thank you very much. Just in, we have now learned all four remaining occupiers in that wildlife refuge in oregon surrendered. After weeks and weeks of a standoff. Listen, this whole time, theyve been armed, they refused to leave. Many of them arrested during a chase. The standoff in oregon is now over. Next, a secret movie about the life of mr. Donald trump. I want you to survey every square inch of trump tower in brass. If we add any more, we will be in uncharted territories of classiness. It could destroy the whole city. I thought you this guy under all the latex and i dont know what else they put on him, would you believe, johnny depp. The back story on this video next. Dayquil liquid gels and go. Hey buddy, lets get these but these liquid gels are new. Mucinex fast max. Its the same difference. These are multisymptom. Well so are these. This one is max strength and fights mucus. That one doesnt. Uh. Think fast you dropped something. Oh. Ill put it back on the shelf. New from mucinex fast max. The only cold and flu liquid gel thats maxstrength and fights mucus. Start the relief. Ditch the misery. Lets end this. Want to survive a crazy busy day . Sfx cell phone chimes start with a positive attitude. And positively radiant skin. Aveeno® positively radiant moisturizer. With active naturals® soy. Aveeno® naturally beautiful results®. Staying in rhythm. Its how i try to live. How i stay active. So i need nutrition. That wont weigh me down. For the nutrition you want without the calories you dont. 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Trump am being sued for discriminating against minorities . Its all part of my liberal agenda. I love minorities, theyre exotic, theyre essentisensual. Is it the jews . Look at this. This says i had fun at josh lewinsteins bar mitzvah and i truly did. It was sensational. I think were talking about the africanamericans you wont rent to, donald, that is the problem. Look, koch, new york should be a place for everyone, no matter their race, religion, creed, color, can be priced out of their own neighborhood. The art of the deal the music alone. The music alone. Cnns senior media correspondent host of reliable sources brian stelter. When i saw this and they told me it was johnny depp and im looking. You got to be kidding me. Its amazing, the transformation. He did it in secret back in december. This was taped in early december. And then the producers asked everyone to keep it a secret until now. Really, really smart timing. Theyre known for these really impressive parody videos with big actors. But this might be their best production yet. Certainly trump fans probably arent going to love it, but anybody thats a critic of trump, it really takes some of his own words and uses them against the trump character. This was a ron howard thing yes, it started with the editor and chief of funny or die. The famous hollywood director, hes one of the, you know, kind of leaders of funny or die. And then adam brought it to johnny depp and he was on board right away. Depp hasnt commented on why he decided to get involved with the project. Maybe we can see why by watching it, the ability to transform yourself like that must be tempting for an actor and then to keep it a secret. Some people have wondered is trump beyond parody, can you not make fun of him effectively. I think what theyve tried to do here, by using his own words, the art of the deal as kind of the manuscript, into making it sort of an 80s feature, sort of jokey tv movie, its kind of creating a new form of hollywood comedy. We know lots of people out in hollywood tend to be liberal, they tend not to be donald trump supporters. They are, no way . When i watched the movie, that came through loud and clear. You just have to know that going into it i think. It was oddly wonderful. If you take out the politics of it. That hour in your office not just johnny depp, who was it, andy ricket, henry winkler, the fonz, really impressive casting. Next, we are getting word, donald trump has dropped a negative ad taking on ted cruz. Its pretty interesting twist here. Also ahead, harrowing moments aboard this caribbean cruise ship after it sailed into this massive storm. My next guest was on board. Well talk to her live coming up. I wanted to put the odds in my favor. 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Winds hitting 100 miles an hour, 30 foot waves slamming into the ship. Sheryl howell was one of those passengers, she joins me now. She walked off that ship just after 9 00 last night. Im glad youre okay. This was your first cruise. You were jazzed, ready to head to nassau, do a little shopping. Yes, yes. And then what . All hell broke loose. The first day i got on the ship, since it was my first cruise, i wanted to get am la mated to the ship. I got into the room probably about 1 00. I said all i wanted was a single room, ocean view with a balcony. So then explored the ship. Went for a massage the first day. Then the second day, did a little shopping and then went to the musical we will rock you. We will rock you is the musical you were watching when said hell began breaking loose. You got rocked. Yes, exactly, exactly. What did it feel like . It was wild because, you know, they had made an announcement earlier that there would be like rough seas and we were expectinging that but we were in the musical and they kept coming out saying we may have to end this. All a sudden, the production, all the things on stage started shifting, like, from the center, all the way to the right, and then they were, like, well, you need to leave, were shutting down. Did you understand at that moment what was happening . No, it wasnt processing. When we left because it didnt feel that rough but when we left out of there, you couldnt walk. It was like you were drunk. People holding on to each other. Exactly. All i could hear was glass breaking. Like glass shattering. It was all coming off the shelves because the music hall was there and then there were other places out in the open area that had glass tables and thats all you could hear. Where did you go . First, i started heading up to my room and then i realized there were people who needed help. Like this woman was try to help her mother up and there was nobody to help us so, like, i stayed behind them just to make certain they got up to their floor. And then i said, all right, let me grab something to eat if we have to go to our room. So i went up to the 15th floor. The elevators opened and there were towels like everywhere in the hallway. I was like, oh, my god, water is coming on to the ship. So then i got back down to my room and i was lucky. Some people were stuck in an elevator. And when i got into my room, i said, okay, if glass is break, let me start try to secure things. I was saying that i was channeling my father, saying, like, what would he tell me to do, so why your dad . He was a navy man . He was a navy man, he sailed. He lived on long island sound, obviously with my mother, they were married for 62 years. He would take his ship, he had a 50foot yacht and he would go out sailing all the time so, you know, i was kind of used to hearing stories or being on the boat when it was rough talking about your dad makes your teary. He died a couple of years ago. But you were thinking of him when you needed strength at the moment. My mom is always like, you do what you need to do. Thats how i was brought up. Thats what i did. Thats what got me through the storm. I love that. Yes, it was emotional. You taking the cruise again . I think ill fly to florida and then take it from florida. Cheryl howell, im so glad youre okay. Thank you. Thank you for sharing the story. Appreciate it. Thank you so much, thank you. All right. Lets continue. All right, here we go, hour two, youre watching cnn, im brooke baldwin. Politics, politics. You will definitely want to be watching cnn right here, 9 00 eastern tonight. Because Hillary Clinton will get her first facetoface with Bernie Sanders after he beat her by a crushing 22 points in the New Hampshire primary earlier this week. We are simulcasting that democratic debate here on pbs. As clinton prepares to seize her chance to derail sanders momentum, she gets a critical endorsement from a key democratic group, that being the Congressional Black Caucus pac. No doubt her campaign is looking toward february 27th democratic primary in South Carolina where, at least as of monday, 27 of registered voters there. The lawmakers today who endorsed Hillary Clinton also definitely took some swipes at sanders without naming him by name, saying they need a president who does more than promise, quote, wonderful things. I can tell you, without a doubt, when i look at the issues that matter most to the africanamerican community, from health care to education, from crime and violence in our communities, from Foreign Affairs issues that are so prevalent in our National Security, theres only one candidate that stands shoulders above the others. Her name is Hillary Rodham clinton. With me now, cnn political director chalian. We have senior washington correspondent jeff zelleny. Jeff, let me begin with you. We talk about this massive endorsement. We have also talked in the last 24 hours about your reporting, hearing from the campaign theyre going to be more aggressive. What does that really mean . How will it shake out tonight . Well, brook, i think more aggressive is by necessity here. This is a new moment in this democratic race where after iowa, New Hampshire and the Clinton Campaign has to shake things up a little bit. By more aggressive, that means theyre going to draw more scrutiny on sanders, his record in the senate, in the house, his plans overall. Also, tonight, i am told, shes going to try to present herself as not part of the establishment. We could hear the words a little bit during her speech in New Hampshire. She said, look, all this money in politics, all this Campaign Finance reform, thats because of me. Citizens united was a Supreme Court decision because of me. A conservative group was attacking me. Shes going to try to paint herself as not as month of a part of the establishment here. Brooke, that is a big challenge with someone whos been in the public life as long as her. We saw the outlines of this again in New Hampshire where she was trying to say, look, she would be the first woman president. Thats not establishment. So shes going to continue that line of argument here. Theres no doubt about it, senator sanders is coming in here with the wind at his back. That makes him a very vulnerable target for her. Certainly a lot to prove to show up he can stand up to this moment as well, brooke. You eloquently lined this up. What jeff was saying, when you look at these two different candidates and hearing jeff saying, you know, shell be shaking things up starting with Hillary Clinton. I want you to analyze what she needs to do on that stage this evening. One thing she has to do is try to halt the sand eers momenm that exists right now after obviously a very big win in New Hampshire. She has tried some of these lines before. I think there is going to be a new context for them after the New Hampshire loss for her. Shes going to paint herself, i am sure, as the more Ardent Supporter and true partner of barack obama. I have no doubt shes going to try to bring up Bernie Sanders guns record. Again, shes looking for opportunities to remind the rejennerized and enthusiastic base of the Democratic Political party why shes one of them too and Bernie Sanders doesnt have a corner on that market, thats her critical goal. Okay, what about Bernie Sanders . Bernie sanders has to be careful not to be drawn into the battle that Hillary Clintons going to want to draw him into. He is going to have to it will be very interesting to watch what bait he takes and what he doesnt because whats working for him right now is his core message. If she starts sort of questioning, you know, as shes been doing, how are you going to implement that . I know how to pull the leaders in government to get a better deal for americans is sort of her argument. If he starts to try to go toetotoe with her on that instead of sticking to his core message of revolution, economic fairness what have you, youll see that perhaps shes getting in his head a bit or perhaps being this new moment of having a huge victory is not something he knows what to do with. These are things im looking for tonight. If i would advise him, i would say stick to your plan. What about the Bigger Picture courting the very important africanamerican voting bloc. The cbc pac came out endorsing Hillary Clinton today. You had former congressman lewis who, you know, was marching with dr. King, who was there all that time, and said this specifically about Bernie Sanders. Well, to be very frank, i dont want to cut you off, but i never saw him, i never met him. I would chair the student and Nonviolent Coordinating Committee for three years from 1963 to 1966. I was involved in the sitins. The freedom ride. The march on washington. The march from selma to montgomery and correct edirecte Voter Education project for six years. But i met Hillary Clinton. I met president clinton. He says he never saw Bernie Sanders. But he, you know, you heard what he just said at the end there. Does she use that tonight . I dont know she has to use it. Its such a powerful moment for her without her touching it. Sort of speaks for herself. That is, you know, john lewis is total stalwart of the Civil Rights Movement, hes got tons of credibility on this issue obviously, and if he is saying i never saw this guy, i never met Bernie Sanders, which isnt to say Bernie Sanders did not fight for civil rights in his own way at the university of chicago or at the march on washington, but if john lewis is sort of dissing sanders and saying, hey, lets be honest here, and by the way, i really did know the clintons, that is damning in and of itself. Bernie sanders, africanamerican supporters of his own. But that is an ad right there in and of itself for Hillary Clinton. On the flip side, mr. Chalian, for the rs, you have marco rubio on the trail, called out trump. I dont know if hes done that before. Hes called out trump, jeb bush, cruz, all citing lack of Foreign Policy experience. Here is marco rubio. Job the president must keep america safe. And that means having a president that understands the threats that we face. I say this to you now without a bit of hesitation. There is no one left in the republican field who has more experience or has proven to have better judgment on National Security than i have. Donald trump has zero Foreign Policy experience. Negotiating a hotel deal in another country is not Foreign Policy experience. Jeb bush has no Foreign Policy experience, period. Ted cruz has a little bit of Foreign Policy experience. Its different than mine. What is this . Is this a preview of the marco rubio reboot . It is indeed. He sort of telegraphed this yesterday when he was flying to New Hampshire on the plane with reporters saying he was going to start to mix things up, about how he was dealing with his opponents. Now were seeing him calling them out by name, being sharp and clear in who hes talking about drawing the contrast. He is going to ride this for the next nine days as we head into South Carolina. Theres a big veteran component in South Carolina that votes in the republican primary and marco rubio is going to try to use his service on the Intelligence Affairs committee to give himself credibility as the National Security opponent in the race. Hes clearly not going to shy away from going to try, david chalian, thank you. Tonight, cnn will be simulcasting the pbs news hour, democratic president ial debate, live from milwaukee, 9 00 p. M. Eastern. Youll find it right here on cnn and your local pbs station. Breaking news, stocks are getting battered right now. Taking a live look at the board. Down 307 points at the moment. With me now, cnn money digital correspondent paul la monico. Why . Oil, its all about oil. Its been that way all year. Oil prices have plunged over the past year. The losses have really ax accelerated this year. That has everyone nervous about what it means for big energy stocks. Been laying off a lot of people. Now people are worried about the banks and the loans they may have to oil companies. European banks in particular have been really hit hard and now youre seeing Banks Like Bank of america and city group also plunging. So its a lot of fear that is reminding people of 2008. Even though i still think thats a little overblown, those concerned. Is this not what we want to see when we have money in the markets . No, its always better when its green instead of red. The key for any investor, not to panic. Dont check your 401k every day. Thats usually unhealthy. Be diversified. If you have money just in stock, theyre suffering this year. Gold, which a lot of people make fun of, its only for crazy people, if you have a little bit of gold, gold has been the best performing asset. So diversity is always the key in your portfolio. Paul la monico, thank you. Next, Montel Williams joining me live on why he is endorsing one republican candidate because, as montel tells it, this guy is the only adult in the room. Stand by for that conversation. Also, ahead, a stunning bust behind bars. Dozens of Prison Guards arrested, charged with dealing drugs for inmates among other things. And protesters say they will be lining up outside of the nfl headquarters in a couple of days to speak out against beyonce and her super bowl performance. Offensive . Overreaction much . Well discussion. This just got interesting. Why pause to take a pill . Or stop to find a bathroom . Cialis for daily use is approved to treat both erectile dysfunction and the urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night. 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If people dont like it, well, i was going to cry if i didnt get out of New Hampshire but i got out so there aint no crying no more, i made it, okay . My next guest is Montel Williams, back, huge kasich supporter. He said there aint no crying anymore. Monday afternoon, you should take some credit for this. Our conversation led to the discussion you think our conversation we had a conversation and you were saying during that time. You were kind of, okay. We were in it. You were saying to me, hes the only adult on this playground full of kids as candidates, the mudslinging back and forth. What if he gets to the point where, listen, you have to have backbone if youre running for president the United States. Listen, the worse, the longer we go against meaner and meaner, what do you think when he gets on the offensive . Since when did the United States and being a leader in a country mean that you only are a leader if you can show me you can put other people down . I think this is a man who is stepping up to the plate and saying different from the rest of you, i want to show america when it is all said and done, i have to represent 100 of america, not just 25 . Lets remember this. You know, theres only 25 of america claims to be republicans. 25 claims to be democrats. The rest are independents. You know, when you listen to cruz, talks about all new yorkers. Im a new yorker. Im a republican. I could be valued to that party. But youre not going to exclude me. I caution people who say, you know, one particular group or another group is going to actually finish this deal. What happened with kasich in New Hampshire is everybody came together. People crossed lines and voted for him. This is going to happen again for South Carolina. Hold your horses when we get to ohio because if he gets to ohio, all bets are off. Long game for him. I dont know how hes doing in South Carolina but hes got huge momentum coming out of New Hampshire. The other thing you predicted, maybe not correctly, you said donald trump is not going to win. I said that. He did win. Maybe in his win, he got a loss. Because the one he wasnt concerned about was kasich. And if you notice that his tenor has seemed to change because youre not going to be able to go beat up your uncle for five or six weeks in a row. Because people are starting to consider kasich that guy. Hes the guy whos talking a little sense. Hes the guy in the back of the room on thanksgiving day going, guys, stop arguing. Thats the guy. Well, hey, can we get the rest of the world to do the same thing . Right, right. Well keep talking kasich and keep a close eye. As for the dems, are you watching everything happening between hillary and bernie and the socalled generational divide and women and millenni millennials, what do you make of this . When did democrats have to kowtow to the republicans to lower the conversation . Now hillary and bernie are playing in the sand box. Stop. And during the debate, i wish theyd get back to the issues at hand and stop thinking that one person of any group represents the entire group. This whole idea that youve got one group of africanamericans its not monolithic . Stop with this ridiculousness. We come in every shape, color, form. Just like all the republicans come in every shape, color, form. Remember, its whose message is going to count, and i think the message, people need to look at me, im telling you, when its all said and done in november, we have to come together as a country. We have real issues like a crumbling infrastructure, crumbling bank structure, a crumbling place in the world when it comes to our military and we have people who want to send more of us off to die, and all of us will have to do that, not just one group. Lets get the right group. I know youre passionate on social issues so this is a bit of a left turn. Beyonce, listen, can i just say, i have watched her my whole team is sick of this, i have probably watched this video 23 times. I think you could teach a College Course on just the themes and imagery in the video. The super bowl performance. The backup dancers sort of an ode to black panthers. Its the day her world tour tickets come out, a couple sides outside the nfl office, part of the group is what youre saying are you offended as an american that beyonce pulled a race baiting stunt at the super bowl, do you agree it was a slap in the face to Law Enforcement, what do you think . Im going to tell you the truth. People will get mad at me. I didnt watch the National Anthem because i hate watching it when im at my home you mean the halftime performance i didnt watch lady gaga first, i had to leave. Because i dont like standing up in my living room. Halftime, i got on the phone. So i didnt see it. It took me two days to hear about the controversy. And im sorry, i still havent watched it yet. Now, why, because, really, we have to come down to this to figure out what to complain about . Can we just stop the complaining for a second . Are we going to complain about the dog that dressed up as the human being and say we just did animal abuse, having three dogs stacked up on each other, trying to sneak out of the store with some food . Stop where everything has to be a fight. Its a Political Correctness thing . Its not, its a Political Correctness thing now for you to say it was Political Correctness. So you have no issue with this . You know what, Michael Jackson ran around in something that looked like that also but it wasnt an ode to the black panthers and nobody complained. If thats her statement, she didnt stand there with a sign saying black panther support. If you want to read it and look at it, read it and look at it. You know, beyonces be, come on. You know. I know. I know. Im a woman. I know. Okay, yes, maam. Montel williams, thank you, come back, thank you. This undercover fbi sting uncovers dozens of current and former Prison Guards allegedly taking bribes to deliver drugs but that is just the beginning of this story. We have those details for you next. Also ahead, hours from tonights debate in milwaukee. Clinton accord to Campaign Aides will be more aggressive. Sanders will be coming off a big win in New Hampshire. A debate strategy session is ahead. You both have a perfect driving record. Perfect. No tickets. No accidents. That is until one of you clips a food truck, ruining your perfect record. Yup. Now, you would think your Insurance Company would cut you some slack, right . No. Your insurance rates go through the roof. Your perfect record doesnt get you anything. Anything. Perfect for drivers with accident forgiveness, Liberty Mutual wont raise your rates due to your first accident. And if you do have an accident, our claim centers are available to assist you 24 7. 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In a series of undercover operations, more than 45 Corrections Officers used their Law Enforcement status to protect reported deals in exchange for thousands of dollars in cash bribe payments. During the transactions, the Corrections Officers wore their Georgia Department of corrections uniforms and their badges. The point, the benefit of doing that is that their presence, would thwart other Law Enforcement to investigating those crimes. Charged in this Drug Trafficking ring and some of the officers were accused of smuggling in contra band such as liquor and cell phones for the inmates to use. This only in georgia and makes you wonder where else this is happen in the u. S. Thank you, sunny hostin, im thinking what happened in new york and the hacksaw blade in the meat. And then you have this in georgia. How wide spread will this be . This is not the norm that you have this kind of conspiracy with correctional officers. This sort of corruption in the state Police Season nrison is n investigators. When i was a federal prosecutor, we did have a problem with cell phones how . Being smuggled in and out of prison. What happens typically when you have that cell phone contra band problem, inmates inside of the prison continue to operate their criminal operatives inside of the prison and that is a significant problem. Remember, years ago, Charles Manson somehow got his hands on a cell phone. So thats a significant problem. This, though, is really unusual in my opinion. You have, as pamela mentioned, the very Tactical Unit that was assigned to root out corruption, to root out drug smuggling involved in actual drug smuggling. I can tell you in my experience, that is very unusual. And i really wonder how far up this goes, because what you want to do, here you have eight federal indictments coming out of the u. S. Attorneys office. You want the biggest person. You want the big fish. I suspect what well see is the very beginning of this investigation and people will start pointing fingers. So how far up did this go is the very question i have. Sunny hostin, thank you very much. Pamela brown, of course, thank you as well. Meantime, all eyes on milwaukee. The democrats facing off tonight for the First Time Since Bernie Sanders beat Hillary Clinton in that New Hampshire primary earlier this week. My next guest says hillary needs to fire hillary. What does that mean . Hell explain that for us. Also ahead is a brokered Republican Convention inevitable . A former governor has crunched the numbers for us. He will join us live to explain how theres no way anyone, not even donald trump, can outright win the nomination. Youre watching cnn. Rthritis li, and youre talking to a rheumatologist about a biologic. This is humira. This is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. This is humira helping me reach for more. 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The democratic debate continuing at 9 00. It will be the first time the democrats go head to head after sanders pulverized clintons frontrunner status in the New Hampshire primary earlier this week. That loss has put Clintons Campaign under a microscope of sorts with some criticizing that it is the big picture here that Hillary Clinton is missing. Quoting one columnist, this is what he writes, quote, hillary, truth be told, just isnt a gifted politician. While sanders focus on the big themes that preoccupy voters, Clintons Campaign feels like its all about he her resume, her 25 years of suffering through the indignities of public service. Let me bring in anita dunn, former White House Communications director, former Obama Campaign advise, and jonathan allen, Political Columnist at roll call. So great to have both of you. Thank you so much. Jonathan, let me begin with your words, you know, you write in roll call, hillary should fire hillary. To me it echoes, you know, the tweet from David Axelrod the other night that she and her husband are the worst problem, you know, struggling with developing basic campaign messaging. How is that when they have been in the public eye for decades . Can you answer that . First, thats part of the problem. Theyre running a campaign in a lot of ways in particular the messaging for an Old Democratic Party for Democratic Party that is very much cleaved into various constituenconstituencie. Women voters, africanAmerican Voters. And they talk to people like that. I think the Younger Generation is much more listening to a message like Bernie Sanders where he says he wants to bring everyone together under the sort of big themes hes talking about. Look, the messaging problem for Hillary Clinton is one that starts at the top. The way we know this, David Axelrod pointed out in a tweet, the 2008 cam pan suffered from the same message problem as the 2016 campaign does. Anita, you know about the messaging. On the other side of the track, so to speak. Jonathan points out, together you go to Bernie Sanders rally, you watch this video they put out. The theme is together or believe. He says a lot of wes not a lot of is. Both campaigns have huge jobs moving forward. And theyre very different. For Hillary Clinton, it is taking her biography and making it a compelling reason to trust her when she says shes going to do these things that she has plans for and shes absolutely committed to doing. For Bernie Sanders, Whose Campaign has been primarily around a cause so far, its actually filling in his biography for voters so it gives credibility to the idea he will do the things he says he will do. I think both campaigns, both candidates, as they go into tonight, have huge challenges. I think theres been a lot of attention to Hillary Clintons challenges. I, as one whos been on the side of insurgent candidates in the past, tells you Bernie Sanders has some big challenges too. What do you think his number one challenge is going into this debate tonight, anita . Whereas i think vermont was a huge advantage for him and New Hampshire, that his need to be able to message to a Broader Group of voters than northeastern democrats and Iowa Democrats is part of that challenge. But i also thing hes going to be challenged by Hillary Clinton and by more scrutiny from the press to really prove that he is serious and that he can get these things done. I think the people love his ideas and the next question is going to be how. I think his answer to how will be very important for him. What about Hillary Clinton, jonathan, you know, anita mentions her story, she has an compelling story. Theres no lack there. We hear this word authenticity so much in politics. How does she relay that tonight . Were also hearing from the campaign it will be more aggressive. Its like this teeter totter. Its like this delicate dance she has to do without, you know, alienating viewers and voters. If she says one thing on monday and says a different thing on wednesday or the thursday night debate, that becomes problematic in terms of the credibility factor. I think she has to be careful about how she moves her messaging. One of the things important to her Going Forward is how to win some of these millennial voters. How to appeal to them. That starts with being a little bit more natural up there. Shes extremely good at debating. Extremely well prepared. Yet at the same time, that can come off as a little overprepared. Shes got to talk about the future. She talks a lot about the resume. Look, she did help expand the Childrens Health insurance program. When she talks about trying to expand the insurance to people, there is a record of that. But i think what shes going to get more to is that 30,000 foot view of where she wants to take the country and let those details of her background fill in. Like bernie sander, knowing that your background and resume is stronger than his is. I just got an interesting piece of news in my ear. This is from reporting from our Political Correspondent that apparently now anita im going to throw it to you, that harry reid has officially come forward and said in this democratic race it truly could go to a contested convention. Is that possible . Well, of course its possible, especially in the democratic primary. We have proportional delegate selection in all our caucuses and primaries and so it could go that way. Dont forget theres a huge chunk of delegates who are superdelegates, who arent elect, and they can always make a significant difference as well. Heres the thing, these are contests, they are not corenations. I think people were unrealistic in thinking this was going to be over in one or two contests. Theres a significant contest in the democratic body. Both candidates share a great deal in terms of values and where they want this country to go. The contest is between whos the better of them to get it there. Compared to whats going on in the republican party, the democratic process is actually a healthy one. I also think, you know, people always talk about brokered conventions or going all the way to the convention. Its hair that happrare that ha i agree with you, definitely talk, but at the same time, jonathan, finally to you, the fact we are truly talking about the potential for that on both sides, this election year, i dont mow if it says more about the candidates or about the american, you know, voting populous and how we feel about politics, what do you think . Think it says a lot about the American Voter now, theyre dissatisfied with both sides with whats going on in washington. Republican voters absolutely want to see a smaller government. They want to get rid of the establishment they think is propping up more taxes, more spending. There seems to be a feeling the establishment is getting under way of the larger government, greater equality in terms of income and wealth. Theres a lot of similar feelings out there in the country about wanting to get rid of the establishment but very different views on what the ends are. Not a dull moment for months to come. Jonathan allen and anita dunn, i really appreciate both of you. Thank you for having us. Definitely, thank you. Watch tonight because cnn will be simulcasting the cbs news hour democratic president ial debate live from milwaukee, 9 00 p. M. Eastern. You cab watch it here on cnn or you can also find it on your local pbs station. Speaking of contested or brokered conventions, one former governor says it is inevitable on the republican side. He has done the math. Wait until you hear this. Plus, his year in space. Astronaut scott kelly getting ready to finish this monumental mission. Sanjay gupta got to talk to kelly live from the International Space station, well talk to sanjay. Im talking full time delivery of 7 grams of protein and 6 essential nutrients. Ever see a peanut take a day off . I dont think so. Harness the hardworking power of the peanut. We just reported that senator minority leader harry reid says it is absolutely possible that the democrats will have a contested convention. My next guest says on the flip side for republicans, a brokered convention is inevitable. He says he has done the math, he has crunched the numbers and no one can break away. He is michael leavitt, a type advisor to mitt romneys 2012 campaign, a former governor there in utah. Sir, i hear its your birthday as well, so happy birthday first and foremost. Thank you, brooke. Before we discuss this battle ahead, i know youve been crunching numbers on these allimportant delegates. From what ive read you say you dont think the path to a majority is in the bag for donald trump. Tell me why. Well, first, i dont think its inevitable, but i think it is highly probable that, well, the circumstances are just such that its going to be very difficult for any candidate to get 1237 delegates given the way things lay out. In 2012 youll remember that governor romney was until actually april before he was able to get the certainty of being the presumed nominee. That was because there were candidates who were able to stay in the race a long time, primarily because of super pac money. And we have a situation here where you have as many as four or five candidates who have the viable have the likelihood of being viable all the way to the end. Do you think that there is any sort of clear path forward for any of these among, lets say, the number twos, the kasich, bush, rubio, cruz . Well, let me say that for any candidate, whether its donald trump or another candidate, between now and the end, they have to get on average somewhere between 41 and 45 of the popular vote. No candidate, including trump, has been able to demonstrate that kind of strength. In other races, people achieve that by a combination of their own momentum and suffocate get other candidates from their ability to be viable. And its unlikely in my view that that will occur. By the way, i might add, as you crunch the numbers what becomes evident is that a candidate also has to win every winnertakeall state. So ask the question, can donald trump win at least 41 and win all of the winnertakeall states. And thats the basis of a bit of skepticism on my part. Just talking to my last two guests in the newsroom, harry reid on the potential for a brokered convention for the dems and anita was saying, this is what everyone talks about every election cycle, the threat, the possibility of a brokered convention, how real do you think it is for republican, truly truly. Well, look, it would clearly be unprecedented in the modern era, but i would argue that there are a couple of factors that have not existed. The super pac and the ability for a candidate to last a long time or live off the land, thats one. The Citizens United decision, yes. The second is the number of candidates. And if youre a candidate in this race and you see that staying in the race could keep you alive in the convention where anything could happen, youre not going to be as likely to jump out of the race, youre going to continue. And i think economic supporters will see that as well. So these are just circumstances, we dont know whats going to occur, but theyre very unique circumstances and i think they add up. You have to also, i think, add into this equation the fact that trump polarizes within the party. That there are people who simply dont want him to be the nominee. There could be those who would continue to see this as an opportunity to stop him as well as to those who will want to support him. So very unique situation. Very possible in my mind that we could see a candidate not have the delegate votes necessary to get a first ballot nomination. Such an important crucial piece of the nomination, the delegate count. Michael leavitt, governor, thank you so much. My pleasure. Straight ahead, the end is in sight. Astronaut scott kelly approaching the completion of his year in space. He tells sanjay gupta about his adventure far above earth. Lobs . You get hungry. 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Nasa astronaut captain scott kelly is closing in on his one full year in space, all of it spent right there at the iss, the International Space station. Cnns chief medical correspondent, dr. Sanjay gupta, talked to him just a short time ago and asked him hows it going. A year now seems longer than i thought it would be. So i definitely have an appreciation for, you know, certain things that freedom and, you know, being on earth provide, but certainly, you know, being confined for this period of time is not something that i think people would its different when youre in space and doing something that you think is important, but i definitely think i would, you know, kind of relish my freedom more after this experience maybe than i did before. Too cool. Sanjay gupta joins me now. I saw him the other day it is too cool. Part of the football, the super bowl pregame show and he was tossing the football, you know, toward the camera. I mean its awesome just what hes done. I cant believe its almost been a year. What else did you talk about . We talked about so many things and it is so cool. It was interesting, he was giving a response we started talking about gravitational waves. You heard about this news today, brooke. Nobody knows what it means. He would know what it means, right, because hes a guy that actually studies these theories. That was a theory, one of einsteins theories and we talked about space time continuum, because as you know hes aging a little more slowly as hes orbiting the earth as compared to his twin brother, mark, who is here on the surface of thee of the earth. Thats what this twin study is about, looking at how his body changes. We talked about mars. It would take about nine months or longer to get to mars. Hes been up there 11 months. So if he was going to mars, he would be just starting a Mission Rather than ending a mission. We talked a lot about his life. I asked him to imagine looking at the earth, that spectacular view that he has and imagine the earth as a human body and how did it look, did it look healthy or did it look sick . When you look at the atmosphere, i wouldnt say it looks the thin veil of the atmosphere on earth i wouldnt say that it looks unhealthy, but it definitely looks very, very fra fragile. Just kind of like this thin film. So it looks like something we definite lly need to take care. I just think thats very interesting. No one has that vantage point, brooke. Im going to talk to him again in three days and again when he gets back to earth. Its just a fascinating story. I love that you have the iss on the speed dial. Of course you do. Please wish him well from all of us here on earth. Well talk again im sure. Thank you all for watching. Im brooke baldwin. The lead with jake tapper starts right now. Thanks, brooke. Countdown to a critical democratic debate right here on cnn. The lead starts right now. 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