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World when he said hes not ready to support donald trump for president. He broke that news with jake tapper a couple of days ago but mr. Trump strongest supporters are apparently ready to play hard ball. Former Vice President ial candidate sarah palin says she will work to unseat speaker ryan in wisconsin. Heres what she told jake tapper on state of the union. His political career is over. But for a miracle. Because hes so disrespected the will of the people. And, yeah. As the leader of the gop, the convention, certainly, he is to remain neutral and for him to already come out and say who he will not support was not a wise decision of his. Ryan told a milwaukee paper to step down as chairman of the Republican National convention if trump asked. By the way, we are talking to one of the reporter who is talked to him in mere minutes to see the headlines of that meeting. Trump hasnt made the request. Lets be clear. And today he also distanced himself from palins threat. But donald trump did remind Republican Leaders of what his unprecedented nomination really means. Ive received more votes than any person ever to run in the republican primary. So, i have people that im representing. Theyre unbelievable people. Theyre loyal, smart. Theyre sharp. Theyre tired of being abused, tired of not having increases in their wages for 18 years. So i represent a very Important Group of people and a powerful group of people. These people have to be treated with respect. Let me bring in cnn political director David Chalian in washington. Nice the see you, sir. We will get to some of your notes. Nice to see you. Ahe of this trumpryan meeting on thursday but to donald trump said and point over and over of millions of votes from americans and should be treated well and hear paul ryan talk about the party is not unified and why not have the Establishment Republicans come to him . Well, listen. Some of them are. Right . I mean, we have seen bob dole, others who have been resistant to get on the trump train and coming around to him. But listen. This is not about whos holding their line and the party if it wants to win the white house back after the obama years is going to have to find a way to come together or theyre going to put themselves in a really tough chance of winning the white house. Donald trump knows that. Paul ryan knows that. And listen. Donald trump is right that he has those voters but he also knows otherwise he wouldnt be meeting with paul ryan that he does need to bring some more of the Republican Base on board with him. This is a bruising nomination season. We saw this party really stretching itself at the seams and potentially coming apart several times throughout this process. We talked about it all season long. Right. It should be no surprise it cant just flip a switch and sing kumbaya. It takes time and both sides need a unified party. Prekumbaya moment, lets hone in on this meeting between speaker ryan and donald trump this thursday. We asked you to come up with sort of three specific areas where these two men really dont see eye to eye, beginning with trumps plan on taxing the wealthy. Recently he clarified. Not putting more taxes on the wealthy but more than others under his plan. Walk me through this. Right. So immediately he caused some concern and conservative circles sounding like he was walking away from the notion to raise taxes on the wealthy he is working on twitter, new day this morning to clarify that saying no, no, no. This is an aggressive negotiating position and indeed if i have to cut their taxes by a little less than i was planning, then theyre going to pay a little more and he said again moments ago on twitter that the wealthiest americans are going to pay less in taxes. Guess what. Tryinging to clean this up with the republicans, brooke, the Clinton Campaign had a Conference Call immediately with top advisers to Hillary Clinton to sort of slam donald trump saying he is doing more for millionaires and billionaires than any president ial candidate in history an trying to clean up and the republicans unified he is taking it from the left on Hillary Clinton. Another yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. Minimum wage . Yeah. Exactly. Donald trump has been in a couple different places on minimum wage, whether or not he believes there should be a state issue and not something for the federal government to deal with or maybe open to raising the federal minimum wage. Paul ryan is clear in the past he doesnt want to see an increase in the federal minimum wage and an economic area where they do not get along. And finally, and this is something we know that paul ryan spoke about that is, you know, against his core personal beliefs, this ban on muslims. Right. Which donald trump asserted that proposals going nowhere and expects to put it in place in the first 100 days in office if elected and dont see a way to come to terms on this policy prescription and to me paul ryan speak about this after donald trump proposed it he broadened out out about tone over all and i think thats part of the conversation on thursday, as well. Folks on capitol hill want to make sure that paul ryan and donald trump have a common understanding of tone and tenor of the campaign forward beyond just the policy prescriptions. Do you think that paul ryan will have suggestions for donald trump as far as how he should move forward tonewise . I think they probably as paul ryan said today to a local newspaper in wisconsin, get to know each other better, find out where theyre coming from and not suggesting paul ryan has suggestions for him but a better understanding of where he is coming from and when the rhetoric is heated at least theres a relationship with each other. Interesting. All eyes on thursday. Thank you so much. Sure, thank you. Im sure well be talking through the week. Meantime, minutes after drrn heard paul ryan he was not supporting his candidacy trump called this man. He called Republican National Committee Chair Reince Priebus and will be at trumps meeting with the House Speaker so lets bring in cnns Global Economic analyst whos also assistant managing editor at time and strategist supporting mr. Trump and Kevin Sheridan with us again. Former rnc spokesman. Welcome to all of you. Thank you. And, boris, lets turn to you. We know, all right, we had an idea friday ryan and trump but now we know Reince Priebus part of the big meeting on thursday. How do you think his presence might alter the dynamic of this meeting . I think its a positive. Reince was hesitant and stayed neutral throughout the process. He ran the debates. You saw him speaking before each debate and having great candidates. Be respect. Once it was clear that donald trump is presumptive nominee, reince tweeting within minutes i think once ted cruz dropped out saying lets coalesce behind donald trump. Its a positive that the chair of the rnc will be at the meeting. Between paul ryan and very respectful and donald trump whos looking forward to the meeting. Kevin, to you, someone that worked as chief coms for paul ryan when he was on the mitt romney ticket a couple of years ago, you are the perfect person to ask, as well, is there a possibility that come thursday, who knows what these gentlemen will all discuss, that paul ryan walks away thinking, theres no way i can support this man for president . I dont think im ready to speculate exactly how the outcome of this meeting will be determined but i think they should both go into it with good intentions. You know . I think it would be nice to hear donald trump say that he does want conservative support. He does want the help of the house, you know, caucus and speaker of the house and i think if, you know, paul ryan goes in with an understanding that, obviously, donald trump has, you know, he has 10 million votes and got an important constituency but the policies might not ever align perfectly there could be Common Ground to reach. And well see how, you know, that meeting goes. Well see, you know, reports back from it. Reince priebus being in it, close with paul ryan, as well. And hes played a pretty neutral part so far, a good job at the rnc and donald trump is respects him so i think it could be a good meeting. Okay. Potentially a good meeting. Today what trump said about debt. New day. Roll the clip. If we can buy back Government Debt at a discount, if we are liquid enough as a country we should do that. In other words, buy back debt at a discount. People said i want to buy debt and default on debt. Theyre crazy. This is the United States government. First of all, you never have to default because you print the money. You print the money. I hate to tell you. Theres never a default. I know what you will say. There are people in the country that say, that makes total sense. We print the money. Why not . Yeah. Explain why not. Okay. Heres why not. The u. S. Government runs a federal deficit. We have to keep issuing debt just to pay down the debt. If you have worries about the u. S. Government defaulting, borrowing costs go up. We have a historical precedent of how much it costs taxpayers. In 1979 because of a brief bookkeeping problem, if you can believe it, the software had a glitch and we ended up delaying a debt payment of 120 million for a little while. That cost u. S. Taxpayers 12 billion. Oh over time because the costs went up. Thats what were talking about. Printing money. Thats crazy. Watching your face. Hold on. Disagree. The printing money is a side comment, right . Not going to default. Thats what we could do. The main point does make a lot of sense saying we wont default but buy back the debt and lower yield debt and something both of us know from business is good practice. If you can lower the rate on debt, why wouldnt you do so . Want to do it on your house . Why not as a country . I got to respectfully disagree. The Corporate Bond market, joung bond logic is not the same. The u. S. Is the federal the currency of last resort, it is a reserve currency. Any kind of shakiness about u. S. Ability to pay back its debt, any kind of worry about that can cause all kinds of ripple effects. It is impossible to say that you can apply this logic for a junk bond deal to the federal government and debt. And i respectfully disagree in turn. From the trump perspective if you as a country saying we have an opportunity to lower the rates, not saying we cant pay, you can pay but you take advantage of a Good Opportunity just like you would in a business deal. Were a Foreign Relations deal, anything. You say a business deal. Kevin, you know, even though youre in washington, youre a third of this whole thing and what im wondering is unlike so many others who sat in the oval office, this is a man with boardroom experience. Everything is negotiable. Hes, you know, one would say flip flopping. One could say hes flexible. How do you see this . Hes given himself an out card on virtually any policy and say that was just a negotiating position i was starting out with. Do you buy that . Well its not for me to buy. Its for well see if he can get away with that over time. It does put him in a unique position. Being very smart man. I know kevin. Walking a thin line here. Im really enjoying it from my perspective. This is great. I love it. Completely seriously. Continue, kevin. Were with you. Yeah. Hes in a unique position. He occupies a space that no other modernday poll sirn does. And hes aaron to get away with more things and than most and thats just another one of them. Okay. Kevin, well done. Well done. Well tuk you all later on this week. Thank you so much. Thank you. Important to explain where he is on the positions. Next, paul ryan responding to trump saying he might remove the speaker of the house from the convention. The man who has the gavel, talking to the man that interviews the speaker at the center of this civil war. Also ahead, donald trump said Hillary Clinton enabled, that was the word, enabled bill clintons infidelity. Theres tape that showed trump had a different opinion not long ago. Also, it is a picture that has everyone talking. Have you seen this . West point cadets have gone through a tremendous four years there. In new york. Raising their fists. What were they trying to say . I can tell you theyre being investigated if thats the right word. Did they break the rules . Well speak live with a captain of the u. S. Air force, one of few africanamerican women to have graduated there. Her perspective coming up. 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House Speaker Paul Ryan breaking his silence on donald trump speaking today to a newspaper in his home state of wisconsin, speaker ryan now says if trump asks him to step down as cochair of the Republican Convention this july in cleveland hell respect the wishes of the presumptive nominee. Speaker ryan also telling the paper that a third party run would be a disaster for the Republican Party. So lets just talk to one of three people in the room here. Christian schneider, columnist with the milwaukee journal sentinel, one of those who just interviewed speaker ryan today. Excited to talk to you. Welcome. Hey, thank you for having me. The headline, we mentioned it, what did speaker ryan say about, we know hes meeting with mr. Trump this thursday and whether he wants him as the cochair of the convention. The guy with the gavel. What did he say about that . We asked him very specifically whether he would step down as chairman of the convention if donald trump asked him to and he said, you know, donald trump is the nominee and his convention. Ill do whatever he asks of me. Which is i think kind of newsworthy. A lot of people, of course, now on twitter thinking thats almost an invitation for donald trump to disinvite him from taking part in it. So yeah. That was pretty newsworthy. Not kind of. Its very newsworthy and just curious since you were sitting and looking at him face to face, his tone when he answered that. You know, he seems to be in good spirits. He was here over the Weekend Spending time with his family, with his wife for mothers day and i think very relaxed. Upset he didnt watch game of thrones and its dvrd and seems to be in good spirits. Not depress eed and he was laughing and joking along. Im glad to hear hes not completely caught up on game of thrones. I got more questions for you maybe more germane to where we are politically. So also, we know that ryan is very close with mitt romney for obvious reasons and so mitt romney thats a name floated as a potential, you know, Third Party Candidate. What exactly did he say about the thoughts of a third party candida candidacy . Well, i started to ask the question. Mitt romneys been in the news lately and before i could finish the question he said, you know, i think a third party canadidac is a disaster for the party. He wouldnt support any Third Party Candidate. I said, well, you know, you remember at the very beginning of all of this when we thought that mitt romney might actually run along with, you know, 17 other people that ran, paul ryan said he would have endorsed him. I said even if mitt romney is the kand candidate . He said not even if mitt romney is the candidate. Before you go, he did give donald trump credit. For what exactly . He gave him credit for winning the, you know, the nomination. He said its been a tough slog. Hes been through a lot. And he also said that donald trump would have a Better Supreme Court nominee than merritt garland. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Great get. Thank you for having me. Thank you. Coming up next, the graduation photo thats prompting an investigation now at west point. A group of female cadets posing with fists in the air, generating all kinds of backlash. Why some say it goes too far. What do you think . You be the judge here. Fight for women voters is heating up. Moments from now, Hillary Clinton is taking her pitch to virginia. Will she respond to Donald Trumps latest attacks saying she enabled her husbands infidelity . Stay tuned. Ifor all the wrong reasons. Gical you may be muddling through allergies. Try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. And zyrtec® is different than claritin®. Because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. Try zyrtec®. 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Participating in a west point tradition for seniors to take a photo in front of the campus building and if you look closely here, you see the ladies posing with the clinched fists lifted in the air. Critics quick to point out theyre evoking the black lives moment and in violation of rules and supporters say, hold on, thats not at all whats happening. Women are just standing united. With me now, captain bryant, a former combat vet in the air force, 2006 graduate of the air force academy and head of University Recruiting at twitter and learning the controversy she tweeted more like hash tag black girl magic to me. Ladies, stay strong. Captain bryant, you recently met some of the ladies and getting to the threads and first of all, thank you so much for the service and thanks for joining me. Thank you, brooke. So happy to be here. This is personal for you on a multitude of levels beginning with the fact that, you know, even with you at air force, what . You were one of eight young, black women in that class, six of whom who graduated and you know what it feels like to be underrepresented as an institution like this. Absolutely, brooke. You know, when i started at the air force academy in 2002, there were eight black females and six made it to graduation in 2006. So walk across the stage and so when i first saw the photo, i was not only proud, but i actually looked at the photo and said, wow, what an accomplishment that in the photo its 16 of the 18 black females in this years graduating class at west point to make it through and have that type of success. Did you even notice the fists at first . Or, was it more just the shear number of women, black women graduating . So, i will say that to an unfamiliar eye, not familiar with the, you know, the academys culture, one could, you know associate that with aligning with a cause or Political Movement but remember, brooke, were talking about the top 1 and theyve been through four years of leadership training, academic training, physical and mental train sog they know what theyre doing. And they know the rules and the regulations. I dont think that this was any type of political view or movement. But i do understand the academy taking a look at, you know, the photo and maybe having a conversation. Could it perhaps have been a poor lapse in judgment . Perhaps. But enough to prevent these women from graduating on may 21st . I dont think so. What do you think, if that is even a question after they have endured the rigors of west point for four years, what do you think they must be feeling knowing that even that the slimmest of chances that they cant walk . You know, not only i cant imagine what theyre feeling but their families. Remember, also, this isnt just about them going through this for four years but families. The families and friends that have made arrangements and have been supporting them for the four years to know that this is in limbo, you know, i really just hope that west point will have will expedite their investigation and not prolong it to prevent the women from celebrating not only with their peers and classmates but their families of this great accomplishment. And we really should focus on that. 18 women will 18 black women graduating in west points class this year. Two or three classes behind me at the air force academy, three black females. When my friends and i have been talking about this, this morning and over the weekend, we were more focused on the numbers and this is something that they should be proud of. Interesting. Captain bryant, thank you so much. Appreciate you. Thanks, brooke. Thank you. Next here, breaking news in the war on terror. One of the worlds biggest targets taken out. We have a live report from the pentagon, next. [female narrator] you listen when your body says im tired. Or, im hungry. What if your body said Something Else might be wrong . Gynecologic cancers cervical, ovarian and uterine cancers have symptoms. So pay attention. If your body says something may be wrong. Please listen if it goes on for two weeks, see a doctor, it may be nothing but find out. Learn the symptoms. Get the inside knowledge about gynecologic cancers. Just past bottom of the hour. We have some breaking news in the war against isis. We are getting word that a key leader of the terror group in iraq has been killed. Lets bring in Barbara Starr at the pentagon. Barbara starr, tell me about him. Reporter good afternoon, brooke. The pentagon announcing it believes it was successful with an air strike a few days ago killing a terrorist in iraq. This happened west of baghdad. Wahib leader of isis operations in Anbar Province west of baghdad where isis is fairly well dug in, targeted and killed, the pentagon said, traveling in a vehicle with three others. One of the things that makes this so interesting, wahib reported dead a number of times before but those strikes, obviously, not successful because he has always come back so theres a little caution here but they do believe the strike was successful. A very serious bad guy said to be responsible for a number of very deadly isis operations in that area. Brooke . Barbara starr, thank you so much for that. Reporter sure. On the trail today,hillhill taking a fight for the white house directly to the swing state of virginia. This afternoon, she looks ahead to a general election matchup likely against donald trump, moments from now, he is due to meet with a group of suburban women, voters. See them around a coffee shop in the county of loudon, virginia, outside of washington. Her meeting a couple of days after trump called her an enabler of her husbands infi l infidelity. She is married to a man, a worst abuser of women in the history of politics. She is married to a man who hurt many women and hillary, if you look and see and study, hillary hurt many women. The women he abused. Shes married to a man who got impeached for lying. Lets parse through this with Juana Summers and christine matthews. Christine advices republicans how to attract women voters. Ladies, welcome. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So, let me set some more sound up here. Today with chris cuomo, trump was on and doubled down on the earlier comments about secretary clinton. Here he was. Shes playing the womans card to the hilt. Shes going i mean, i watched over the weekend. Everything is about woman and donald trump raised his voice and that, you know, its all nonsense. You know what . Women understand it better than anybody. And watch how well i do with women when it counts, when the election comes. Watch how well. Nobody respects women more than donald trump. Im going to take i will be better for women by a big factor than Hillary Clinton who frankly i dont even think will be good to women. All right. So, christine, to you first. Do you think this is a good strategy to talk to women . Well, you know, donald trump has said plenty about women. It would be nice if he talked to women as human beings with some ideas about what he would do taking them forward and not generalities. And so, you know, i think when you move into territory when you criticize Hillary Clinton about her marriage, about her looks, her stamina, its really risky. Yes. I have this number. According to a gallup poll last month, 7 in 10 women voters unfavorable view of donald trump and, christine, staying with you, you say topics of Foreign Policy, terrorism could turn republicans toward Hillary Clinton. How could she turn, you know, states like this blue . Yeah. Its interesting. Your setup was in loudon county, virginia. I have done plenty of focus groups with women in loudon county, virginia. The most important concern is National Security and terrorism. She is smart to use the trade loose cannon. If she can say, listen, you may not like me but im stable, im not me cure yal, ill keep you safe, he doesnt know what he is doing, i think she has some opportunities and i think she has to acknowledge shes not going to win them over in terms of them liking her. But if they think that she is more reasoned, more stable, keep them safe she has an argument there. You know, she said the loose cannon thing four different times in that interview with Anderson Cooper last week. Obviously a line they hope sticks with voters. Mean while, juana, we dig into the vault. Back to 2008, you know, we played what mr. Trump has said about, you know, former secretary of state and former president s marriage and heres what he said after bill clintons affair and impeachment. Look at the trouble bill clinton got into with something that was totally unimportant and they tried to impeach him which was nonsense and yet bush got us into this horrible war with lies by lying, by saying they had weapons of mass destruction. By saying all sorts of things that turned out knnot to be tru do words not matter in politics . Across the aisle here. Brooke, this is a tough one. We have seen time and time again that the traditional laws of political gravity for some people reason dont apply to donald trump and i think statements like that and playing the statement, whether the statements on abortion rights, on gay marriage or like you played why some people and i think back toing on this, iowa, dont see donald trump as a consistent conservative. I think if we see a general election matchup of a donald trump and a Hillary Clinton, you will be hearing statements like that played back again and again and again and donald trump forced whether he likes it or not to confront his own words and square up what he said eight years ago with what hes saying on the road today staring down the general election. Heres some more sound and also donald trump recent saying women have it easier than men. Here he was. Only the men, petrified to speak to women anymore. The get it better than we do, folks. All right . They get it better than we do. As a woman, christine, what do you think about that . Okay. Thats just not the way to go that women have it so great and, you know, they have it better than men. He was speaking to men in that particular segment. No woman will believe that they have got it so great. You know, the one thing that Trump Organization seems to say confronted with his record on women is, oh, promoted the strong women, women managers, good track record. Maybe its time for him to step back and put the women forward, you know, wouldnt hurt in terms of testimonial. In 2012, a strongest ad for mitt romney was the women he appointed to the administrations speaking out on his behalf. So thats something i think they should consider probably and he should consider being more quiet. And then the binders full of women, its tough. Lets go now to loudon county, to virginia. Hillary clinton sitting in on this coffee shop. Heard of obvious, maybe even typical responses. But im trying to get a much broader view about what will work. These are issues that i have worked on for a really long time going back to my own life as a mother, a daughter, and some of the challenges there. But also, in the work that i have done for the Childrens Defense Fund and other ways of trying to figure out how we have a more cohesive and frankly welcoming set of expectations and supports for families in todays world. Because its just harder i think, just my take. I mean, i think costs are greater. Everything from commuting time to feeling like if you take that vacation day, youre going to be viewed as slacking off. I mean, theres just cultural as well as economic and structural challenges. So im just very interested in hearing what all of you might have to say and then ive got a couple of people with me who have worked with me for a long time and thankfully are still helping me. Hillary clinton again speaking at a coffeeshop trying to address women. Christine was talking about the issues women care about. National security there. Juana, what more does Hillary Clinton need to do to specifically attract women to her side . We talked about Donald Trumps numbers looking at women and both of the candidates in the general if they have a general election matchup dont have great favorability numbers. Theyre some of the most disliked since early 90s. Theres work to be done for women but across the board as were heading towards what could be a really interesting matchup. Ladies, thank you so much. Well continue that conversation through november. It is an important one. Next, donald trump is just an official nod away from the nomination and that means he is even closer than ever to an intel briefing on americas most highly classified secrets. Exactly how much will donald trump find out . Well find out,next. Th touch idy more than unlock your phone. It logs you into things, like your bank account. See what i mean . It checks you into your flight. Ooop, your phone it pays for stuff like. mouth full doughnuts. How about chew then talk. It unlocks things for you. It signs documents for you. 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Joining me now, phil mudd, cnn Counter Terrorism official. Good to see you, sir. Thank you. You did this for secretary of state john kerry when he was running some years ago. Yes. What kind of information exactly do they become privy to . Theres a couple of stages. You have to think through. The first stage at the end is november and someone actually wins, democrat, republican, they typically will receive access to the family jewels. In other words, they get the same president ial brief that president obama will be getting in the final months of his term. Before that, after the conventions with nominees of both parties they get an initial security brief and that will not get into the kind of detail that a candidate, a president elect, will see in november. For example, what we call sources and methods. What the cia is doing in syria, for example, would not bepart of that initial briefing cycle. More highend briefings on things like china, north korea, iran, brooke. Thats what they would get, the latter half of what you said . Thats right. We have heard some folks including senator murphy opposing this. He said, quote, trump wouldnt think twice of taking classified information and putting it in the public realm to serve his political purposes. Do you think thats fair . This is how it works. Each and every four years. No. I dont think thats fair. This is the way the game works. The white house looking at the cia and other intelligence agencies and say the American People have spoken through republican and democratic primaries. Regardless of who the American People choose, those candidates have the right to receive equal accessed information. If it later turns out someone cant handle that information revealing it, deal with it. Front end, you deal with it like every other president and people in texas to talk to president elect bush. People went down to little rock, arkansas. I suggest the white house will authorize after the conventions briefings for whomever wins. And then finally on equal access, obviously, its presuming Hillary Clinton is the nominee on the democratic side, will she have the same sort of briefings or up to speed on so much of this as a former secretary of state . She will have the same briefings. The way it works iS White House is going to be careful about stripting this. For example, theres categories of information or subjects that will be appropriate for conversation. They will tell the transition teams you cant go outside those lines. You cant start asking about other stuff that might, for example, relate to political campaigns. North korea, iran, fair game and both sides get the same kind of briefing and high level before theres a president elect in november. Makes sense. Fair. Thank you so much. Thank you. Coming up next, photographs seen publicly for the very first time take us behind the scenes of an administration in crisis. 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Who could forget the seen here showing president bushs reaction to the news that a second plane hit the World Trade Center on 9 11 2001 . The enormity of that moment, the hours that followed were captured by the president S White House photographer and now some of the extraordinary pictures he took an one shot you see the president here drafting remarks he would give to the nation from the florida grade school he was visiting as the attack unfolded. Another image shows the president consoled on air force one. Photographer eric draper is good enough to join me. Eric draper, i have always wanted the talk to, you know, a white house photographer. You were former chief white house photographer. And just welcome to you and for people who dont understand, i mean, the function of your job, are you essentially attached to the president s hip through his time in office . Yes. Thats basically correct. You know, access is everything. And president bush trusted my presence and the job of the white house photographer is a visual archive of the administration, including official and nonofficial events so i was definitely the president s shadow for all eight years. Wow. And little would you know, little would any of us know waking up that tuesday how our world would change and the photo hone in on you, Lieutenant Colonel cindy wright from the White House Military Office on Board Air Force one, with a right arm sort of around the president s neck. Can you tell me about that moment and was the president weeping . Well, no. The president wasnt crying at that moment. This occurred approximately it was Late Afternoon and wed actually learned that we can return to washington and so, everyone was, you know, relieved that we were heading home and the day was already hours long and cindy wright, wonderful woman, a white house nurse, and she she supporting everyone. And i miss her a lot but yeah. That was just a very intimate moment when she walked up and tried to comfort the president on a very, very hard day. On that hard day, can you remember just as you were behind the lens just the tensest moment . Well, the entire day was tense for me. Just learning that was really happening, i mean, you might remember the words that andy card watched and i watched that happen and i didnt know what was going on until i walked into the hold room and saw the live pictures of the burning towers and i knew it was going to be a big day and i i had to basically i was on autopilot basically but i was also human and very tough and very, very intense day and there are days that were very, very intense where the president was basically so focused on his job that didnt matter where i was in the room. I could be right in front of his face and he didnt care. Quickly, when did you fully absorb you had a front row seat in one of the worst days of our nations history . You know, it took a while. You know . It took a while to comprehend that day and to process what actually happened. And it wasnt until we were headed home, actually, and as we approached air force one approached Andrews Air Force base and we saw the f18s flying right next to the wing and off the left side of the plane and the right side of the plane we can see the smoke still burning from the pentagon. That was also attacked. And i knew at that point that we were at war. We were, indeed. We are. Eric draper, thank you so much for the archive and for taking the time. I appreciate it. Thank you. Youre watching cnn. Im brooke baldwin. Thank you for being with me on this monday. Donald trump is poised to win tomorrows primaries both nebraska and west virginia. Head to head challenge is this week, thursday. When the presumed republican nominee due to meet with House Speaker paul ryan. Speaker ryan rocked the political world saying hes not quite ready to support donald trump for president and talking to jake tapper last week. Today, the speaker told a milwaukee newspaper he would step down as the chairman of the Republican National convention if trump were to ask him to do so. By the way, trump has not done that. He did remind Republican Leaders of what his unprecedented rise means. I have received more votes than any person ever to run in the republican primary. So, i have people that im representing. Theyre unbelievable people. Theyre loyal. Theyre smart. Theyre sharp. Theyre tired of being abused. Theyre tired of not having increases in their wages for a period of 18 years. So i represent a very Important Group of people and a powerful group of people. These people have to be treated with respect. Cnn political reporter sarah murray is with me now, all eyes on thursday and this meeting or sounds like meetings. Tell me what you know about this. I think this is a big day because Donald Trumps campaign while doing outreach on the hill, they havent done a lot with leadership and paul ryan saying hes not quite ready to support donald trump. And so theyre going to meet at the rnc. Reince priebus is helping to facilitate the meeting. He is close to paul ryan and also has a decent working relationship with trump at this point but i think what we are hearing from both sides is these two guys dont really know each other very well at all. They havent been in a room and talked about, okay, heres what i stand for. Is there Common Ground and i think its interesting to see if they come out of that meeting saying we found a couple of things were on the same page on or now we have met and going the separate ways. I was talking last hour with a reporter in the room with speaker ryan and part of the milwaukee sentinel and asked about donald trump, very close. A name floated as a potential Third Party Candidate and what did speaker ryan say to that . This would be a disaster. Thats his word . A disaster and telling that to people, as well, too. It is clear it is not pushing the narrative of a third party alternative. Theres never trump folks still hoping for that and, look. It might be a matter of a couple of more months to come around. Either accept or just resign themselves to the fact that you get your two choices here. You will have a democrat, a republican. Well see if someone can cobble together an independent bid and they feel like this would be very damaging. Thursday meeting is very big. Sarah murray, talking about it. Thank you so much for setting it up. On the campaign trail, donald trump has spoken about, you know, banning muslims. Use ed vulgarity and comments about his anatomy. When a proposal is called a shocker, thiss saying a lot. Has to do with the u. S. Debt. Remember, investors and governments worldwide count on u. S. Treasuries as the ultimate in safety. Theyre considered as close to a riskfree investment as you can get. Thats why the u. S. Can borrow at such low Interest Rates. Heres what donald trump said today about debt on new day. I said if we can buy back Government Debt at a discount, in other words, if Interest Rates go up and we can buy bonds back at a discount, if we are liquid enough as a country, we should do that. In other words, we can buy back debt at a discount. With me now, Cnn International anchor of quest means business, Richard Quest and peter morecci at university of maryland. Welcome to both of you. So good to be with you. He clarified what he was actually meaning. Brooke, hes not talking donald trump is not talking about going out and doing a debt negotiation. He is talking about that scenario where Interest Rates have risen naturally or whatever. Debt, u. S. Government debt has fallen. He would then get the treasury to buy back the debt that was at a higher price. Theyre already doing a bit of that anyway and proper Debt Management but this is a dangerous heresy because the loose way in which he is speaking is exactly the criticism that people make about his candidacy. I knew you wanted to jump in on that. Peter, to you, you know, it sounds like trump is suggesting that the full faith and credit of the u. S. Is subject to negotiation. Its a businessmans perspective. Do you think thats acceptable . Certainly the full faith and credit is not negotiable. If Interest Rates rise as we expect them they will in more normal economic situations, then debt issued last several years will have a market value below the face value and possible to issue new bonds and buy back the old bonds and reduce the level of the capital level or the actual indebtedness of the United States. The interest that we pay on the debt would stay the same. What we need to avoid is having a cavalier view of what we owe. Although we print the worlds money and we cant go bankrupt or fail, we can always print more money to pay off our debts unlike greece or any other country in the world. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Thats what he is saying but isnt the result inflation . I was getting that. Okay. The trouble with that is that you essentially will create inflation. And you will create a situation people want higher Interest Rates on the debt an it will spin out of control. The reality is the United States has more latitude with debt than almost any country in the world but that latitude is not infinite and trump needs to be careful about what he says. The problem is just about every issue he doesnt have knowledgeable experts. He is kind of like a sophomore getting up in class and espouses what he thinks on a subject and it is about 60 correct. Hmm. Did you want to jump in . I mean, peters summed it up elegantly. This is exactly the issue. That you have got with this debt thing. Theres one other point. Peter, all right, so you Interest Rates go up and youre going to buy back some of the other debt. But the u. S. Government is already in a negative debt situation so youre going to have to issue more debt, the higher Interest Rates to pay back the other debt. I mean, this idea of just issuing debt to pay back other debt which is which theyre doing with notes and bills as youre well aware, its simplistic, its beauty is simplicity and also its danger. Oh, absolutely. But governments do this all the time. So do corporations. It is as you said at the beginning of this process or this interview, is that thats prudent Debt Management. Whens dangerous here is the notion that somehow or other donald trump through his businessmans accuman and wizardry relieve the u. S. Debt and thats the annual interest payments. We pay interest on the stuff. If the Interest Rate on the debt goes up, even if you buy back the old debt at a discount, youre paying just as much interest and at the rate of going with the borrowing, we are paying a lot of interest by mid next decade and neither partys president ial candidates have been willing to address that. And that is a very serious problem. Let me move on because thats one issue. The other issue we have heard, we have heard a number of candidates talking about the minimum wage and Hillary Clintons first interview after donald trump is you laugh but its so important. Trump believes wages are too high and then now trump is breaking with Republican Party which is significant well, the reality is the minimum wage is a fact of life. If the federal government doesnt have a minimum wage, most states will. And so, you know, economists might not like it or conservatives like them to have but where should they be set . I think that they should be set at a local rate, that is vary depending on the locality. The highest the minimum wage to my knowledge in terms of 2015 dollars is about 10. 20 an hour back in the 60s. Thats about 40 of the average wage in the United States. I would be very comfortable with the notion that since the bureau of labor statistics computes the average wage in the county in the United States that we then set the minimum in that county at 40 . That would permit, for example, manhattan and San Francisco and the cost of living much higher right, right, right. To pay a lot more. You wanted to jump in i see. Yes. Lord maynard said i change my mind when the facts change. Donald trump is saying ive changed my mind. The difficulty here is you do expect to go in to an election with a candidate which you know with a solid right. By all means im flexible, everything is negotiable. Change your mind when the facts change. But not that. But the facts havent changed on the minimum wage argument. He has changed his mind. And the danger here is that the electorate is entitled to say, well, what else are you going to change your mind on a whim or a view or the facts changing . Thats the significance of this change of mind. Of course everybody changes their minds when the facts change. Right, right. No. Its an excellent point and something to think about heading in in november. Richard quest, my friend, thank you. Peter morici, thank you, as well. Thank you. Next, just in, the speaker of the house paul ryan responding to donald trump saying he might remove ryan from the convention in cleveland ahead of their highly anticipated meeting this week. Whats going on there . Well discuss. Plus moments from now, the Justice Department expected to fire back at the state of North Carolina after the state sued the feds over its controversial bathroom law. How will the attorney general Loretta Lynch react to that move . 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Christine allescia sat down with eric cantor and talked about donald trump. Yes. Spill it. It was a kind of surreal moment. I didnt think he was going to endorse him or say he would support him but he did and this is the ultimate establishment guy whos basically saying, if he becomes the nominee ill support him and i asked him specifically why. And he said, basically, anythings better than hillary. I dont even im not sure what his policies are and asked him about Foreign Policy and his policy on big business. Take a listen. Theres certainly alarm and who knows what Donald Trumps Foreign Policys going to be . Right . I mean he gave a speech the otherdy and the title was only the thing i took from it, america first. What does that mean . What does that mean in terms of our obligations around the world . And ive always been of the opinion that if if america doesnt stand up for free trade, for the regular International Norms in terms of conducting commercial transactions, and be there as a military power to make sure that the bad actors of the world know that there are consequences for crossing the line with america. So what is donald trump telling wall street . Thats the thing. No one knows. He is on every side of issues. Again, it goes back to sort of my sense of what our obligation is as americans. We got to participate in this democracy and speak out to help influence where the policies end up. So hes saying, basically, we want a seat at the table and shape the policies we know what they are and the striking language that cantor used which is, americas obligations around the world, that is what has got the Business Community really nervous because when Donald Trumps talking about america first, what hes saying is, perhaps hes willing to renegotiate trade deals. Now, if that happens, that will put our commercial business at risk overseas and potentially impact the economy and the average person adversely and that is what wall street, thats what the csuite and the guys are worried about so now you have the big money donors telling me behind closed doors theyre not publicly coming out against trump but theyre going to take their money and focus on the down ballot. Making sure that the that the republicans keep control of the house and the senate. And thats where the money will go. Interesting. Former leader cantor, thank you so much for sharing this. Thank you. As we mentioned, House Speaker paul ryan and donald trump, they will be meeting this thursday. In a moment that could determine the future of trumps campaign, the future of the Republican Party or perhaps both. Let me bring in two of my favorite ladies, dana bash and niamaleka henderson. A couple of headlines out of this meeting with paul ryan with a columnist i spoke with, specifically the notion of if donald trump, dana bash, if donald trump asks speaker ryan to step down, you know, with his gavel, come cleveland, hell do it. What . Thats right. You know what . I feel like you remember the vh1 show popup video . Of course. Something pops up with whats really going on and the popup video would be like please, please, dont make me do that. Good. But in all seriousness, you know, i dont know that theres an expectation from paul ryan to say anything different. If donald trump says i dont want you, what will he do . Say, no, i demand to be the convention chair. Its not like its a pleasant experience. Its not like its easy anyway but less pleasant experience there. But actually, my takeaway from the interview that paul ryan did today with the hometown paper was that he seems to be cooling things down a little bit. You know . How do you mean . I just feel like in a couple of different ways he tried to say, look. I get that donald trump did an amazing thing here and gave him credit. Gave him credit for it and next sentence is not pretend theres not a divide here and try to close. Unify. I really i think that not just him but also trump this morning on new day said some things like he was blind sided and well see what happens. What about also what he said about mitt romney and mitt romney is a name floated as a potential Third Party Candidate and he said a dysaster. Thats right. He is saying, no. If you flash back, there was also this idea that paul ryan is a white knight and somebody rescue the party from donald trump and he might be able to be that figure at a contested convention. We all know that theres not a contested convention and paul ryan saying that the person who should be the face of the party is the person that wins and thats donald trump. So yeah. In some ways not a surprise that he said its a disaster and most republicans know that it would be a disaster in terms of probably splitting off some of that vote and certainly handing the white house to Hillary Clinton. But a lot of republicans also think that all of these disaffected never trump republicans have to have some sort of vehicle for their votes and some kind of shell for what they think is going to be the Republican Party posttrump. But yeah. I think its a great interview. The other thing thats striking about paul ryan is him saying he didnt know donald trump that well. Hes almost framing this thursday summit get to know you. Yeah. Get to know you. I agree. Certainly calming down some of the temperatures asda that talked about. Okay. Lets move from the trumpryan meeting to a visual if i may. Hillary clinton, she is speaking today, still speaking loudon county, virginia, outside washington, d. C. To a bunch of women in the coffee shop. We saw the broader shot. Maybe 25 people in the room. When will we ever see donald trump in an intimate setting such as this speaking to the people . Dana, you laugh. Im being serious. Whats the popup video bubble for that . I dont know. I think we might have to wait longer for that popup video. He did some retailing and i emphasize some when he started to do not as well in some of the primary states. He did more of the traditional what we call in the biz off the record stops meaning it wasnt regular part of his schedule an he would stop and do a few things but certainly nothing, nothing like his opponents did, nothing like most modernday candidates do. So i dont know. Its not his thing. It is not his strength. He is a performer and he does very well at the rallies and i have been to many, many of them where he kind of, you know, stokes the crowd and works off the crowd and kind of from a distance. So, im not sure that theres a llt of pressure on him to do that because im not sure people are really pining for it who support him. That could change. Do you think, nia, an advantage to do that . Danas right. He says look at the crowds. You know . And thats really sort of a selling point i think for him and the supporters. But might there be an advantage in sitting in a quiet room with 20 people . You know, i think so. It would give a different side of him. We have seen some of that in the town halls we have had with his family, for instance. It would make him look more relatible. You have never seen him sitting at a table going back and forth with people in sort of a dinner table kind of setting, a restaurant type of setting. Asda that said, he is a performer. And some ways you wonder if that takes the oxygen out of the room and take the wind out of the sails and i think Hillary Clinton making, you know, taking advantage of one of her strengths which is these town hall, these sort of town hall small settings and with women there and virginia. And, you know, just to add to that, as were looking at the pictures, nia, you said relatible. That was the word coming to my mind because that is an important thing for Hillary Clinton to build upon, that she is somebody who people can kind of get the know and understand. Its also allows her if you look at her and cant hear her and just imagine it allows her to do what she does best and get a question and then just kind of expound on it based on the very deep policy background that she has across the board. Thats not Donald Trumps thing. May not need to. Dana and nia, thank you both so much. Political popup video. New show. See how that goes. Thank you so much. Coming up next, North Carolina, this is big news today. North carolinas governor suing the feds over the socalled bathroom law that critics say discriminates against transgendered people. The attorney general is expected to hit back. Well take the News Conference live coming up. No meemt here now the department of justice will respond directly live pictures doj respond directly to North Carolinas lawsuit over the sits socalled bathroom law. Filing the counter lawsuit against the state of North Carolina. The doj gave the state until today to suspend or repeal the law that limits bathroom access for transgendered people but the governor is defending the law. Speaking out moments ago, the governor demanded a federal court clarify antidiscrimination laws. We believe a court, rather than a federal agency, should tell our state, our nation and employers across the country what the law requires. And let me say something. Our nation is one nation. Especially when it comes to fighting discrimination which i support wholeheartedly. Ultimately, i think its time for the u. S. Congress to bring clarity to our national antidiscrimination provisions under title vii and title ix. The governor also appealing for support of other states and seeing the numbers here, this is a cnn orc poll suggesting theres an uphill battle. 57 nationwide oppose the law. Supporting me is Gloria Brown Marshall of John Jay College of justice and a former civil rights attorney. Nice to see you. Nice to see you. North carolina say it is doj about to respond. I have been printed in the hot hands, this is the lawsuit from the doj to hear about presumably from Loretta Lynch there in washington. To you first. What do you make of North Carolinas response . I think North Carolinas trying to buy time an figure it out. The governors saying he doesnt understand how it affecting his government, his facilities and his government and nor the businesses and other private owners who have to decide how theyre going to handle the bathroom. Were talking about a very basic thing, all human beings have to do. But were also having to balance out the privacy and security, the safety of those transgendered people with the privacy, security and safety of the women who are in those bathrooms. Is this an unprecedented law . Is this a first of its kind there in North Carolina . I think its the first in North Carolina but ill tell you something. Heres something similar in new york, especially upstate new york. You had fathers with little girls without a place to change them. So the closest i can think of is thinking, okay, do i take a little girl into the mens room or myself, a male, the father, into the womens room to change this little girl . And so, the issue was one that they said it was equality for men that they should be allowed to have a changing room and now theyre all over the place. All over the place. You dont even think about that how that came about. Lets take a quick commercial break. Were waiting to hear about the lawsuit from the doj back to the state of North Carolina over the socalled discriminatory bathroom law. Quick break. Were back after this. Heres the plan. You grow up wanting to be a lawyer, because your dads a lawyer. And you land a job with a 401k and meet your wife. Youre surprised how much you both want kids, and equally surprised you cant have them. So together, you adopt a little boy. And then his two brothers. And you up your Life Insurance because four people depend on you now. Then, one weekend, when everyone has a cold and youve spent the whole day watching tv, you realize that you didnt plan for any of this, but you wouldnt have done it any other way. 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Im lucky to have Gloria Brown Marshall with me from john jay and were talking about as we anticipate Loretta Lynch to speak so the issue was the doj said once this law was passed in North Carolina you have to this is not okay. Essentially. And North Carolina said, yes, it is okay. Were defending what we believe the rights of the people of our great state. Are you what is it now in this lawsuit and we have had two seconds to look through it, what is it that the doj will say . The doj will say you have the university of North Carolina that university receives federal funds. You cannot discriminate receiving federal funds. You stop discriminating against transgendered people or well stop the federal funding and any State College a big deal. Very big deal. Its how we have got them to change what it came down to womens sports and now to stop discriminating against people of color so thats a stick thats a heavy hitter. So North Carolina then is responding by saying, well, let us think this over. We have a law and passed it for a reason and federalism issue with the balance of power between the states and the federal government and she will be as the federal government respect the state or the states say we know our people best and therefore we need to continue to, you know, separate the people and they go to the restrooms based on their birth gender. Is there any i mean, seems like theres so much gray area but is there any negotiating or just sort of hard and fast and this is how North Carolina feels and the doj is now saying and one or the other . I think there are two or three different ways to go. One, you can look at the unisex restrooms and those unisex restrooms popping up all over, and the changing room, the federal government filed against North Carolina to have changing rooms that are based on the gender of identification and not just the gender of birth. So, you can have that changing room be a room for unisex, you know, use. You could also say that, you know, North Carolina will give you a certain amount of time, maybe you need a year to retro fit some of these facilities that right now you dont have a place for, you know, a unisex restroom. The last would basically be trying to figure out how youre going to separate the men going into the womens restroom. I think thats a major issue and the phase in the transgender process the person funds themselves and might be frightening for a mother in walks someone who self identifies as or identifies as a female and looks like a male. Stay with me. Theyre about 12 minutes late and going to the department of justice when the ag steps out there. Hang tight. Were going to move on for now. Back to politics here. Thank you. With donald trump now at the top of the republican ticket, as the presumptive nominee and new report shows hispanics are rushing out to register to vote against him. And theyre also lining up to apply for citizenship. If you picked up the Houston Chronicle this morning, monthly citizenship applications jumped between august and january by 65,000 people. A 15 spike. Trump after all kicked off his Campaign Last summer by angering a lot of latinos calling some mexican immigrants rapists and drug dealers. Hes also threatened to deport all illegal immigrants. Mr. Trump definitely managed to frustrate a lot of people but not my next guest, carlos limon supporting donald trump for president and an adviser to Trumps National diversity coalition. Carlos, welcome. Hi, brooke. Thank you for having me. You saw the numbers in hou Houston Chronicle this morning. The anger generated by candidate, they want to vote against him. They want citizenship. How do you respond to that . Definitely. Im mexican. Born and raised. I read the article this morning. And just like them, i mean, they have the right to do whats best but i think mr. Trump and them are being victims of the Hispanic Media. Mexican media, this comes from mentixico and manipulated information. Mr. Trump, i met him a couple of weeks ago, and hes not the things that people say. Hold on. Are you saying the manipulated the numbers in the Houston Chronicle article are manipulated . Were mexicans and emotional. Sitting on the couch watching mr. Trump say his ideas and campaign, it didnt offend me. I knew exactly, you know, it took a very Little Common sense to figure out he doesnt believe all of us mexicans are criminals, rapists. But the media, the media especially mexican Hispanic Media here and in mexico they have a very, you know, its very easy for them to play with those feelings. Emotions. And to put just like them, theyre a group and i know, you know, what you just report theres a lot of groups who are also registering to vote for him. Like u. S, theres a beautiful thing. Good group of people, different backgrounds and ethnicities. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Im kind of over people throwing the media under the bus whether its the American Media or the mexican media and i dont know if all his pa panics agree with you thinking theyre emotional. John mccain in the senate a very long time. He spoke out recently and talking to my colleague about how hes nervous with trump at the top of the ticket because theres so many hispanics in the state of arizona, his home state. Hes worried about his own reelection chances. Here he was. I think that its important that we understand the importance of the hispanic vote in america. Many states, they throw in arizona, more than 50 of the kids in school are hispanic. After the 2012 election, as you know, we laid out a blueprint and part of it was outreach to the hispanic community. I think we all recognize that the Republican Party has to do that. So, carlos, i mean, this is someone whens been in washington a long time, a nations hero, a prisoner of war. Yes. To think hes worried about the reelection because of trump and hispanics running away from him. How would you respond to that . Wow. Well, i cannot compare knowledge or experience with mr. Mccain. Its a delicate situation. I just try to bring 0 the big picture to the smaller one and its self accountable. I kabt be in a situation to jeopardize my kids but at the end of the day, the law is common sense. You got to respect the law. Okay. Before i let you go, carlos, i want to throw up a photo on the screen. This is something happened last week but its been everywhere over the weekend. I think its still sort of in the bloodstream when mr. Trump tweeted the picture of him eating out of a taco bull on Cinco De Mayo. I have to ask as a trump supporter, would you have advised him to do this . Ah, well, the way i see it, he is just a guy whos having a taco bowl and marketing trumps grill. It didnt offend me. All of my friends, you know, having margaritas that night and tacos saying happy Cinco De Mayo and doesnt mean much to me. We live in a time where you are careful because you have, you know, the ability to offend the person next to you by doing anything. It doesnt mean anything to me. Im a business owner. I have a couple of clients who are former employees from mr. Trump. Both hispanics and they never had anything wrong to say about him. He was a great boss. Hes just dealing to hes used to deal with lot of people from different nationalities. Okay, okay, carlos, thank you so much. Your perspective is important as a hispanic and someone who supports donald trump. I appreciate that. Thank you, brooke. We are watching a a couple of minutes and this, the city of ferguson, missouri, swearing in a new police chief, First Black Police chief of unrest that followed the Fatal Police Shooting of Michael Brown. Cnn sat down with this man saying he is ready to clean house if needed. Well play that for you next. [woodworker] i live in the fine details. Thats why i run on quickbooks. I use the payments app to accept credit cards. And everything autosyncs. Those sales prove my sustainable designs are better for the environment and my bottom line. Thats how i own it. The city of ferguson, missouri, the flashpoint of civil unrest after the Police Killing of teenager Michael Brown, the city will swear in a new police chief today, the first africanamerican chief by the name of delrish moss. Live pictures as theyre getting ready to begin the official ceremony minutes from now. Moss, who rose to the rank of major in miamis police force, has his work cut out for him. He will have to heal a fractured community. He will have to navigate a mostly White Police Department in charge of a majority black city. He must reform a troubled agency all under the watchful eye of the department of justice. And cnns sara sidner sat down for a oneonone interview with the new chief and joins me live on his thoughts and what he has ahead of him. You were there covering ferguson from the get. What did he say to you . Reporter he is a very interesting person because of his background. Delrish moss is now taking over what is really one of the most scrutinized Police Departments in america. You alluded to the fact the department of justice is watching its every move so, is the community, and now he is the head of that, the first africanamerican to take the helm. He says hes uniquely qualified because of his past experiences at a black man in america with police, one of which included him as a teenager when a policeman stopped him, called him the n word, another time a policeman stopped and searched him with no probable cause. Its interesting that your initial experience was a negative one. Yes. Reporter but instead of hating the police, you became a Police Officer. Yeah, well, i have a grandmother who says you cant clean the house unless youre inside. And so i decided that if i wanted something done, if i wanted change in my neighborhood, i had to be a part of it. So i decided to become a Police Officer because i couldnt trust my neighborhood, my friends, my family to the Police Officers that i had met. I needed to be the person providing that service. Reporter will you have the strength to clean house if thats whats needed here in ferguson . I think so. I think one of the things that happens is i come from another community. I have no ties, really have no connection to the Police Department here. And so, you know, its about the mission. And there is really nothing clouding my agenda. Reporter now, delrish moss was just about to retire, actually, from the miami Police Department. Hes been through riots there in the 80s. There were several of them that he experienced as a young person and then also as a Police Officer. He says that also makes him qualified to try to take on a city that has gone through the same kinds of things. Lastly, really interestingly, i asked him about Michael Brown, had he gone to the spot where Michael Brown was killed, the place that started all this, brooke, and he said, yes, i went there, and i want to be able to sit down with his parents to hear their side of the story. Brooke . Powerful. So glad you talked to him. Well look for more on your interview on the lead in the next hour. Were still watching and waiting for the department of justice News Conference to happen any moment now. Should be hearing from the a. G. , Loretta Lynch herself, responding to the law in North Carolina regarding folks who are transgendered who want to use their appropriate restroom. The governor has defended the law. Were watching and waiting for the doj to respond with a lawsuit they have now filed. Stay here. This is cnn breaking news. Welcome to the lead. Im jake tapper. It is a heated showdown. The Obama Administration versus the government of North Carolina. The issue is complicated, but it does deal with Transgender Americans and their rights. Any minute, were going to hear from attorney general Loretta Lynch on this very divisive issue. On friday, the Obama Administration demanded that North Carolina address what the Justice Department calls discrimination, pure and simple. This was a reference to the states socalled bathroom law. The law would mean that transgender individuals would have to use Public Restrooms that correspond with the sex on their birth certificate, not with the gender with which they identify today. Earlier today the governor of North Carolina respondedo