Actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide. The president s personal attorney john dowd now says he was the one that actually wrote that tweet, but with the new detail that the president knew in january about flynn this raises new concerns about the president s conversation with thenfbi director jim comey the day after flynn was terminated because according to comeys testimony to congress the president said to him that he hoped comey would let the Flynn Investigation go. Joining me now is cnns kara skinnell and she broke the story on what the president knew. Give us the details about what President Trump knew and when he knew it because this is key. Right. It is very critical in this time line here. What we understand is that don mcgahn, the white House Counsel had informed the president after meeting with acting attorney general sally yates in january that in sum and substance what Michael Flynn had told the fbi was essentially what he told mike pence, the Vice President. And the fbi investigation of which sally yates was not providing any greater details, but what they did know was that flynn had in don mcgahns mind, he believed that flynn had misled the fbi and had lied to Vice President pence. Why is there it seems to be lack of clarity when it comes to whether mcgahn would have advised the president over whether this was breaking the law. I would expect, but perhaps this is illconceived that don mcgahn would say to the president this may be a violation of law. He could be in big trouble, but we dont know that that happened. We dont. What we do know is at the time of that first conversation they did not have any information other than what they had learned from sally yates and what he had perceived or interpreted of what she had said. They later learned a week later they had a transcript of the conversation that mcgahn had rut led him to believe that the statements were inconsistent, but mcgahn never told the president as far as our sourcing that flynn had broken the law. And flynn misled the fbi, but they really could only compare the transcript to what flynn had told pence because they knew exactly what flynn had told pence, right . Right. They did not know the questions or the answers between fbi and flynn so it was hard for them to make did determination, our sourcing tells us, about whether a crime had been committed kara skinamerica ell, great reporting. Thank you so much for that. Now for the white house prespons tpr response. Shimon prokupecz, the personal attorney, and this is not white House Counsel, this is the president s attorney, part of his separate legal team is reacting to the concerns about the president obstructing justice. We are talking about john dowd here who is the president s personal attorney. In one tweet over the weekend where he said that he helped draft a tweet where the president knew that flynn lied and today telling axios that the president cant be investigated for obstruction of justice. Let me read to you exactly what he said because this has caused a lot of noise today and certainly raising a lot of eyebrows on this strategy, and he said, quote, the president kv cannot obstruct justice because hes the chief Law Enforcement officer under the constitution, article 2 and has every right to express his view of any case. This comes from john dowd, the president , and this has certainly raised eyebrows within the Legal Community and people are asking questions about whether this even makes sense. Lets just say we have not heard from john dowd again today. There are a lot of questions now about whether he can proceed, even, as the president s attorney, a sort of illadvised statement from him, and an illadvised tweet over the weekend causing a lot of unnecessary noise and raising all sorts of eyebrows while the special counsel is still continuing to look at this investigation. Are your sources, shimon, buying that john dowd is the one behind this tweet . For Law Enforcement, i dont think that that is a big concern because if there is any obstruction and part of the case that theyre making out has really to do with the conversation that the president had with james comey about Michael Flynn, thats really the center of the obstruction investigation, and what was the president s state of mind at that time . What exactly did the president know, and in his statements in his conversation according to james comey, it appears that the president had some idea that the fbi was investigating Michael Flynn and thats why he asked him to let it go, perhaps to go light on Michael Flynn. So that is an important aspect of this investigation. A tweet over the weekend, certainly could probably that investigation, to that charge, if the special counsel decide to bring it. Look, this just creates a lot of noise, unnecessary noise and probably just keeps this going and keeps this conversation going concerning obstruction. All right, shimon. Thank you so much for that report. I want to take a deep dive and joining me is we have mike geragos, hes a criminal defense attorney and mike rash who used to prosecute cyber crimes at the Justice Department. Mike rash to you and this is a panel who i will be using both of your last names, obviously. How significant is it that the president knew in january that flynn misled the fbi . In order to obstruct justice there has to be some valid investigation that youre obstructing. So the fact that the president knew that flynn had committed some kind of a crime, that tells him what investigation that he would be obstructing, an investigation of false statements to the fbi. Mark geragos, what do you think . Well, look, an obstruction of justice, unlike some other of the crimes that could be investigated here requires a mental state and the mental state of the president , obviously, is going to be important. What he knew, when he knew it and what actions he took. Thats the gravamen of the obstruction of justice. Part of the problem here is is that, you know, there is sally yates in the time line telling him at some point in late january, telling the president that in fact, they had presumably intercepteded a conversation and that he was not being, that general flynn was not being straight up, and so based on that, he would have known that something was up. He knows that in realtime that general flynn had apparently misled the Vice President , firing comey or asking comey to let it go and those kinds of things, i dont know that at the end of the day thats going to be the exactly where the focus of this investigation is going to end up. Mark rash, when you see the argument from the president s legal team which was before that he did not obstruct justice and now their defense seems to be that the president cannot obstruct justice when we hear from so many legal experts that actually the president can obstruct justice. What do you think about that change in argument that were hearing . Well, sure. First of all, i think the change in argument means that the president s personal lawyer is now focusing on the facts saying even if the facts can be used to demonstrate an obstruction of justice case for an ordinary person, the president cant obstruct justice. Well, thats simply not true. While the president has the right to hire and fire people and the president has the right even to fire jim comey for particular reasons, if the president does so with corrupt intent to impede or obstruct the due administration of justice, thats a crime. Ultimately, for the president the question of whether or not there was an obstruction of justice may end up being a political question rather than a legal one, though. Mark rash, the state of mind that you mention and that geragos mentions, thats clearly so important here, but it seems like it must be so difficult to prove. Its funny because in the law there are all these different states of mind. Theres knowingly or recklessly or intentionally and the obstruction of justice keicarria unique state of mind, not just that you did something bad, but that you did it with an evil intent and the intent to obstruct an administration of justice and its a fairly high standard. Mark geragos, check out the tweet from john dowd. The president s lawyer. He said that he and not President Trump wrote this tweet. He said i had to fire him. At the time we understood it and now were learning from our sources that the president did actually know that flynn misled the fbi or had been informed of that by white House Counsel, but we did not know that until today. Weve had that news broken here on cnn today. Do you believe that john dowd really wrote that or is he just covering for the president in a tweet that could get him in trouble . Think the whole thing has been kind of almost silly from an evidentiary standpoint. Whether dowd authored it, whether the president authored it, theyve taken the position repeatedly that the tweets are offici official statements of the white house and theres been litigation having to do with the travel ban thats been admissible evidence. Even if john dowd wrote it and the president put it out there, its still, under the law, called an adoptive admission. You can imput that to trump whether he wrote it or not. So at a certain point it becomes much ado about nothing because it is going come in on an evidentiary basis, if that, in fact, is what theyre trying to do or what theyre focused on, and i think my counterpart mark is right. Ultimately, this is a political question. I dont think you will see a situation where the special counsel will be the one who will indict the president. I think if theres ever anything in the argument about whether the president can be obstruct cs down to whether or not that is a high crime or misdemeanor and then it would be thrown over to congress to deal with that a la what happened with president clinton, what happened previously with president nixon, both of which had in their bills of impeachment reference to be on strukobstruction. We really appreciate youren sights. Coming up, President Trump m makes it clear. He supports roy moore. He called him from air force one to express his support. So will this turn things around for moore who has been slipping in recent polls . And special Counsel Robert Mueller removes a member of his team after discovering messages that could be interpreted as antitrump. Could this pose a problem for his investigation . You might take something for your heart. Or joints. But do you take something for your brain. 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President trump knows that the future of his conservative agenda hinges on this election. That a lines with the president s twitter endorsement today, quote, democrats refusal to give one vote for massive tax cuts is why we need republican roy moores vote to, stop crime, illegal i imgrapgz, border wall, military prolife, judges, Second Amendment and more. The president gave this endorsement low key last month, but this is fullthroated support for roy moore. Youve been talking to voters. Does this change anything, do you think . Reporter yeah, brianna, now President Trump throwing his influence behind roy moore. Its hard to say what impact this will have among voters in alabama, because so many of the voters ive talked to theyve made up their mind as to whom theyre voting for or if they plan to vote in this special election. Now with President Trumps firm endorsement coming eight days out, i dont think that there are that many votes left for him to sway. President trump won the state of alabama by 28 points and the same people who voted for him are the people who have been standing by roy moore against or amidst these explosive allegations. So now when you hear that president bu President Trump is endorsing him in this way, you dont know if hes had an effect on how he supported roy moore. He believed his denials of the allegations and railed against jones, those words of the president have been used in moores ads across this state and if he was going to get any pop from him you would think that that pop would have already come. Now with trump visiting pensacola a florida, about 20 miles from the state line and we just learned that the president will be on the other side of the state in jackson, mississippi, on saturday, maybe the turnout, that is always a challenge in special elections could could be, affected by President Trump energizing some of those who otherwise didnt plan to vote in the special election. And this is i mean, this is coming up soon, right . This is a week from tomorrow, this special election. How is the race shaping up right now, kailey . Right now, the polls, brianna, no matter which one you look to. The margin is so slim between these two candidates and the latest poll from the Washington Post has Democrat Doug Jones with a threepoint lead over roy moore and thats within the margin of error of that poll. These two candidates neck and neck. So whats also interesting, though, to learn from that Washington Post poll, the fact that 28 of those polled still say they dont believe theal ga allegations of roy moore. When you think of the senate race in a state that hasnt elected a democrat in a quarter of a century, to see those numbers that tight you know those allegations have had an effect on those sagging numbers here. Will it play out . Youll see in about a week, kayleigh hartang. Despite the president s daughter ivanka trump saying there is a special place in hell for someone like roy moore when she responded to these accusations that he was engaged in Sexual Misconduct and Sexual Assault with girls as young as 14 years old. I want to get more from chris. Specifically Mitch Mcconnell, Top Republican senator. At first, we were hearing from republican senators that they could basically kick roy moore out. Yep, and would. Thats right, that they would and he completely changed his tune over the weekend and its more like the voters of alabama are going to decide and then well sort of see where we are after that. Yeah. So i think what youre seeing here with trump and mcconnell is something very similar which is political pragmatism on m pragmatism on mcconnells part because i think he thinks roy moore is probably coming to the senate. I know kailey mentioned the moore and the they had doug jones up three. It feels to me and theres a lot of other data out there that would suggest that roy moore is trending back from a clear dip he took after the allegations and mcconnell, they tried to get him out of the race. The race, as you point out, is in a week, basically. So theres not a whole heck of a lot else that you can do. For trump, trump wanted to be with roy moore from the start. He took mcconnells advice a he wound up endorsing luther the republican senator who was more beat and when he was in asia, all of these allegations came out with moore. He held off and he held off, but then he said roy moore might win and he views roy moore as a similar figure to donald trump which s you know, he believes hes denied all these allegations which is what donald trump did. He denied. Hes run against the establishment and hes brash. He wants to be for him and now because he thinks hes going to win its easier for him to be for him. But what does this do, if anything, to the republican brand . You have the party that is supposed to be family values and you have a guy who is accused and in pretty convincing terms by several young people people who were young women. 14 to 19. When roy moore was in his 30s, to be clear. Does this hurt republicans . The republican brand is not in great shape. Good point. Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose. Theyre in pretty bad shape, but, look, Mitch Mcconnell has said i believe the women and this person is not fit to serve and well let the people of alabama decide. I have a feeling the people of alabama are going to choose roy moore, and candidly, all of this talk that we heard in a week or two ago, that if they seat him, republicans will move to expel him. The last senator expelled from the senate was in 1862 for support of the confederacy. So its been a while. And this idea that while alabama elected roy moore, and the people of alabama know what theyre getting now with roy moore. Its not as though roy moore has painted himself as anything other than what he currently is and he denies these allegations, and i think it would be hard to overturn that and the most likely outcome eight days out is senator roy moore for the foreseeable future, which, yes, to answer your question in a roundabout way which is problematic even for a Republican Party that is not in a good place right now brand wise. An fbi agent reassigned from the russia investigation. He was booted from Robert Muellers team by the special Counsel Robert Mueller. This happened after an internal review found messages that could be perceived as antitrump. Well talk about what we know about that agent next. Plus, is the u. S. Moving closer to military action against north korea . We have a new warning from a senior seen tor who senior senator who is suggesting that American Families should leave south korea. So how old do you want uhh, i was thinking around 70. Alright, and before that . 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Download the xfinity my account app or go online today. President trump is slamming the fbi in the russia investigation after reports that special Counsel Robert Mueller removed a top fbi investigator from the russia team last summer. Mueller removed the agent because he sent texts that could be prirptetted as proHillary Clinton and antitrump. Trump hit back with a tweet over the weekend saying report antitrump fbi agent led clinton email probe. Now it all starts to make sense. I want to talk more about this now with cnn justice reporter laura jaret. I want you to tell us about this fbi agent. We do know this is someone who helped lead the email investigation and the clinton folks hated that and you saw the way it was dealt with right up into the election. This is a top russia investigation. Yeah. Hes considered a top expert in counterintelligence specifically. The number two guy in the bureau, and did lead the investigation into the Hillary Clinton email situation, but he also was considered such an expert he eventually went to Robert Muellers team, the special counsels team and later this summer we learned that he was dismissed or reassigned to the hr department. So clearly, a big shift from top counter intel to hr. You are really side lined when theyre pushing you from investigating down to the hr department. So, and this is becoming a political issue, as you might expect. You have the house intel chair devin nunes, i republicaa repub ally of President Trumps and theyre not really saying what happened here. Right. We learned over the weekend and we had some reporting on this that devin nunes, the chair of the Committee Even though he stepped aside has still been doing quite a bit of work and one of the things he wanted to look into why he was reassigned. A report broke in august that he had been restationed to human resources, but it didnt say why. Nunes team had gone to the Justice Department to find out why, but officials declined to comment on it at the time. Now the news is a little bit different and we learned that he will be interviewed in a closed session before the House Intel Committee some time in the coming weeks. Oh, that will be very interesting. Laura jaret, thank you so much for that report. And next, the president used the removal of that fbi agent to reup his attacks on the fbi. He said the agencys reputation is in tatters. A former fbi assistant director will weigh in on those comments next. Plus, we have more on our breaking news. Cnn learning that the white houses chief lawyer, the white House Counsel told President Trump in january that Michael Flynn had misled the fbi. 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The president tweeted this, after years of comey with the phony and dishonest clinton investigation and more running the fbi, its reputation is in tatters, worst in history, but fear not. We will bring it back to greatness. Joining me now is the former assistant director of the criminal Investigative Division chris sweker. You spent years with the fbi, what is your response to that wee tweet . As someone who was part of the fbi and i bought into the integrity, and to see the integrity take a hit is painful. Its extremely painful for those of us that served to see that happening, and i know that this agent is, by reputation, a very good agent, but he made a huge mistake and he is now a defense witness. You what do you think about the current fbi director staying silent on all of this . Well, chris wray is a very quiet person by nature. Hes not going to seek out the press even less so than former director mueller who had a reputation for not being out there in the press, but hes constrained. Number one, hes special counsel and he will not interfere in any way with that or comment about it. Number two, its a Personnel Matter whereby federal law and privacy laws he cant comment on so his hands are pretty well tied on this one. Weve been hearing that from a number of people. You say you stay out of Something Like this and dont make it political. Right. I do want your reaction. We do have breaking news that the white House Counsel actually told President Trump in january that Michael Flynn had misled the fbi. So thats something that he knew before we knew that he knew it, and this is raising some questions about the president urging the fbi director jim comb toe drop the Flynn Investigation. Some people have said this may be part of this obstruction case that could be built. What do you think . Well, ill tell you, as a lawyer, hes literally a nightmare as a client. Hes colonel jessup in the movie a few good men, he wants to show the one that hes in power and he ordered the code red and is always speaking out in ways that hurt himself and in this case he certainly didnt advance his cause at all at a critical juncture in this investigation. So, thats what but how bad can the way he speaks and what he tweets, and how badly can that affect if you bring up this example that were all familiar with in that movie and is he in a situation of selfincrimination when there is a tweet that went out where he said he fired flynn because he misled not only pence, but the fbi and you have his personal lawyer say no, no, no, i drafted that. How selfincriminating is he really . Is that something that will certainly get him in trouble or is it just noise . Well, personally, he misspoke because i dont know how he would have known at that juncture that flynn had lied to the fbi and the fbi was still sorting through that information through that time part but chris, what we learn side that in january he had been informed that he had been informed in january by the white House Counsel, that flynn had misled the fbi, and it was the next month when he fired flynn, when the Washington Post story came out so he did know. So its a long litany, a series not misstatements, but inculpatory statements on his part and ill underscore if, if hes in the crosshairs of an investigation or if hes in the crosshairs of a collusion investigation, something that involves some sort of quid pro quo with russia during the campaign, there are half a dozen staples that hes made that can be used against him as evidence. So if he hes not helping himself and hes certainly hurting himself by these statements. Yeah. And thats why lawyers advise their clients to stay mum. Chris sweker, i really appreciate your insight here. Coming up, north korea is warning, quote, a Nuclear War May break out any moment and you have a senator telling American Families they should leave south korea right now. Is the Trump Administration preparing a preemptive strike . I mean wish i had time to take care of my portfolio, but. Well, what are you doing tomorrow 10am . Staff meeting. Noon . Eating. 3 45 . Uh, compliance training. 6 30 . Sams baseball practice. 8 30 . Tai chi. Yeah, so sounds relaxing. Alright, 9 53 . I usually make their lunches then, and i have a little vegan so wow, you are busy. Wouldnt it be great if you had investments that worked as hard as you do . Yeah. Introducing essential portfolios. The automated investing solution that lets you focus on your life. Wont replace the full value of your totaled new car. The guy says you picked the wrong insurance plan. No, i picked the wrong insurance company. 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Fighter jets can be seen today flighting over south korea for combat exercises and theyre practicing a mock attack against a north Korean Missile launch site and theyre pushing it closer to the brink of a nuclear war. A senator fears the u. S. Is running out of time. I would urge the pentagon not to send more dependents to south korea. South korea should be an una unaccompanied tour. Its crazy to send spouses and children to south korea given the provocation, so i want them to stop sending dependents and its time to start moving american dependents out of south korea. Joining me now to discuss this as we hear that pretty scary warning there from senator graham, bob baer with us, cnn security analyst. Do you agree with senator graham . You talked to military families who for a long time looked forward to this assignment to go to korea, but with this escalating rhetoric and capability, Nuclear Weapons wise with north korea, its a very different story. Lindsay graham is not trying to alarm people. Hes basing this statement on the real possibility we could be at war with north korea. I think what hes advising the president is to get the families out now. This situation is getting worse by the day and with these military exercises in the south, the United States is carrying out south korean military, we are a lot closer to a fullon war with north korea, and if youre an american in south korea, now is the time to get out. What would a preemptive strike look like and what benefit would there be for a preemptive strike against north korea. Well, the first thing theyd want to do is assassinate kim jongun, hes the problem and then take out command and control immediately. Youre not going to be able to disarm north korea in the week of strikes or a month. Most of their weaponry is in caves and it is well camouflaged so its really the command and control, remove that in a quick strike and you might be able to prevent a true catastrophe, but i just simply dont understand, and im not sure we understand how capable the North Koreans are to responding to a preemptive attack. Thats a huge thing and the concern is that north korea can marry Intercontinental Ballistic Missile capabilities with a Nuclear Warhead and create a weapon, a Nuclear Weapon that could reach the u. S. That is the big concern. When you describe a scenario that would be an assassination of the north Korean Leader and taking out command, is that possible or is that would that be a hail mary . I think it would be a hail mary. The North Koreans understand how to go off the air. They know how to go under ground. They know how to move large units without alerting american intercept capabilities. Youd have to be pretty lucky, but what the president is up against is the next couple of months or a year, hes going to have a reentry capability for a miniaturized Nuclear Weapon that could hit new york city and washington, d. C. I mean, this president is under a lot of pressure anyhow and the last thing he needs to do is prove that he can take kim jongun could take out the white house which is not inconceivable within a couple of years and this is a real problem and its a dilemma and why Lindsay Graham is talking about the possibility of war and people say maybe its 20 or 30 . I would say its a lot higher. Where would you put it . About 50 . This is terrible options all around, too. Bob baer, thank you so much. Coming up, we will talk about stunning claims of harassment and discrimination from women in Silicon Valley. They say that their male coworkers engaged in Sexual Activity in the office and expected them to perform, quote, womanly tasks like cleaning up and washing dishes. 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Everybody talks about how to progresses and so forwardthinking. Reporter silicon volley promised to Code Solutions to the worlds problems, but it cant seem to fix one of its own. Gender discrimination, sexual discrimination, harassment. Reporter in may, Elizabeth Scott filed a lawsuit against her former employer, upload vr, its a powerful startup in Silicon Valley and also had a reputation for its parties. I thought these are young like me. Reporter daisy burns is another former employee. I was blown away by what i had gotten myself into. Reporter young founders, millions in funding, a Party Culture. It created a perfect storm according to elizabeths lawsuit. One male employee would talk about how he refuses to wear a condom and has sex with over 1,000 people. Male employees engaged in Sexual Conduct in the office. According to the lawsuit, there was a space called the kink room. We had a kink vr demo in there. Reporter the lawsuit says male employees used the space for sexual intercourse during parties. Insignal chat boards where, quote, random sex sessions were joked about. I would every once in awhile find underwear in that room and make jokes about it and have to clean it up. Reporter you had to clean up underwear from your office space . Yeah, that was part of startup life i guess. Reporter also according to the lawsuit, female employees were expected to act as, quote, mommies. Women are viewed as the people that clean up underwear and do the dishes. Reporter elizabeth says she was fired days after complaining to a manager. That was kind of the breaking point for me mentally. Reporter after seeing elizabeths lawsuit, daisy and other employees sent a letter requesting the founder step down. When they refused, she quit. Heres what the founders are saying now. I totally understand how a young woman just moving to San Francisco and then walking into an upload event where, you know, there was loud music and an open bar, i can totally understand how that could feel uncomfortable. Reporter the very specific claims of these women were more than, you know, oh, i was uncomfortable at a party, i was uncomfortable because i had to pick up underwear from the party. I was uncomfortable because there was a male employee talking about having sex with 1,000 women and not wearing a condom. I want to give you guys the opportunity to respond to that. Taylor . Yeah, i mean, i think the whole team has realized sort of the Party Culture nature of the company. Weve really put a lot of structure. We established an h. R. Department. Reporter were women expected to do tasks like the dishes were as men werent . No. I dont think that we had the experience early on to recognize that shift that needed to happen. Reporter but for some women, its just not enough. This has to stop. If its helped one person then i know i did the right thing. Reporter the question remains, now what . And its important to look at it were looking at Sexual Harassment through the lens of Silicon Valley, you have to remember these are a lot of young founders. Millions of dollars pouring in without an h. R. Structure and a lot of immaturity. I think you saw it there in that piece. I think its also important for us to realize the products created in Silicon Valley and coded by these people, they reach all of us so you need to to be a safe place for women and all sorts of people, brianna. Youre describing, it sounds kind of like female unfriendly, fraternitylike environment, but the thing that really bothered me about the report there, laurie, was when you said that elizabeth complaint elizabeth complained and found her employment terminated shortly thereafter. That is such a problem. I know youve been talking to a lot of people privately. You spoke to these two women on camera, but privately im sure people are very candid with you. What are they saying. I say at the tech conferences tell me what youre not allowed to say outside. Investors too nervous to meet with a woman after hours or grab a drink to talk about investment. Talking about being nervous in investing in women. What if this is a liability. What if we hug . So, you know, i think we have to have a real conversation about this. This is a real moment for women but its also a moment for men to come forward and have an honest conversation its obviously very polarized and sensitive right now. So with all of these stories pouring in now, you know, what happens . Whats is there any sort of change . What is the next step that youre seeing . You know, i think we have to keep adding pressure. There should be legal ramifications. A lot of tech founders are coming together and trying to come up with Technical Solutions to actually have data for reporting and trying to get around the h. R. Structure clearly in this case was broken, brianna. It sounds like they have one in place and certainly this will be a lesson for a number of other companies. Laurie siegel, thank you so much. Be sure to catch her full special divided we code saturday at 2 00 p. M. Eastern. Thanks for joining me. The lead with jake tapper starts now. Thanks, brianna. That 70s show. John dowd, President Trumps attorney suggesting the president is above obstruction of justice laws as the world learns that the president knew Michael Flynn had lied to the fbi before that alleged comey meeting where he told the fbi director to lay off flynn. Its a tangled web as a key democratic senator talks about the case against the president. More backing, more problems. 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