America is at war. With itself. Young people. Openly racist walking the streets of the United States. Cities turn to backgrounds. Another Beautiful Life stolen. Charlottesville. This is my town. Pittsburgh. Murdered because they were jewish. Charleston. He said he wanted to kill black people. In city after city. You are looking at your own backyard. An army of hate. Jews will not replace us. Whose numbers are soaring. The country is changing. The fear growing. And its spreading across the world. Why would you treat us like that . A fire hail trump. Fed by politics. Very fine people on both sides. Haunted by the past. Adolph hitler says we can learn from them. The roots of the crisis. There was a boom and there was nothing left. The flash point question. All men are created equal. You dont believe that . Of course not. Blood and soil. Blood and soil. No hate. No fear. The fabric of a country. White problemcy is not welcome here. Demands a call for action. We have never done all that could be done. Once upon a time in america, it looked like almost everyone was white. The idea of america as a white mans country, very powerful idea. In 1960, whites made up 89 of the country. Black people were decidedly secondclass citizens. Leave it to beaver. The only africanamerican who appeared on leave it to beaver appeared as a maid. Care for some more punch, boys . White, white, white, white. Then came the immigration act of 1965. I now declare each of you to be a citizen of the United States. Americas doors opened to immigrants from new countries. Nonwestern lands. By the 1980s, the white percentage was down about ten points. This land, its people, those are what make america soar. Immigrants kept coming even as the white birth rate declined. By the 2000s, the census beer owe had news for us. Minority groups will become the majority in the United States by the year 2043. Many americans celebrated the new diversity. But for one group, it was a fivealarm fire. White power. White our. We have to understand a sense of emergency as animating this movement because all of this is about a immediate and apocalyptic danger to the future. There are still plenty of white people, they deserve a future, not to be simply melted away in this multiracial mishmash that they did not choose. Jared taylor is a White Nationalist. Quite literally. He does not advocate violence, but he does want to create a whites only version of america. Im not at all talking about the entire United States becoming white, im talking about simply a portion of it becoming white. So the whites would secede . Perhaps. I can assure you that more and more white people agree with me all the time. They do not want to become a minority. Would that secession mean maybe creating a new nation . Ideally, yes . Well hear more from taylor later, but repeatedly he voices the biggest fear of the White Supremacy movement. Should i want my people to disappear . It is entirely profoundly more to fear that kind of replacement. Jews will not replace us. Replacement. The word has become a call to arms. Charlottesville did shock a lot of people. Whose streets . Our streets. Naziism. The United States of america fought a war against nazi germany. But the marches didnrs didn like nazis or the klan. Instead of hoods and swastikas, they wore khakis and golf shirts. Some of them call themselves the altright. Others, White Nationalists. Very, very clever rebranding. When people hear the phrase white nationalism, i think they sort of think of overzealous patriotism. This isnt that. Your americas gone, mother it soon became clear. Lets go. Coward they might have new names. Usa. But they were americas oldest nightmare. Lets go. White supremacy. Hey hey get him off of us. Holy shit. Holy hit. Grief and shock and charlottesville, virginia. One person is dead. The year after charlottesville, the number of White Nationalist groups soared. By one estimate, up almost 50 . It is now 30 seconds to zero time. Some have become especially violent. Wage war now. This group is named for the german word atopic weapons. The things that they were planning were horrible. One former member warned the police about deadly plots. They were planning to kill civilian life. Power lines, nuclear reactors, synagogues. Is the federal government fighting this . How come we dont have enough tools right now to pull these people in . At a recent hearing on White Supremacy, congresswoman rashida tlaib, a muslim, read a letter she had gotten in the mail. I was totally excited and pleased when i heard about 49 muslims were killed and many many more were wounded in new zealand. This is a great start. Lets hope and pray that it continues here in the good old usa. The only the only good muslim is a is a dead one. First, my empathy but listen to the way the money is spent. Those agents in the field that work domestic terrorism, about 20 . And we have about 80 working international terrorism. Thats right. Four times as many agents on international terror, even though last year just one person died from an islamic terror attack in america. 49 people were killed in domestic extremist attacks. There is a mindset that has to be dealt with. And this is not just an american story. There is now a Worldwide Movement of White Supremacists. Sharing their twisted ideas on the internet. In march, a gunman massacred 51 people at prayer in new zealand. In his 87page manifesto, the terrorist cited his inspiration. White supremacists in america, sweden, norway. All of these people believe that they are being replaced and must fight to resist it. And much of this discourse of supremacy is centered in the United States of america. How did this happen . Where did it come from . After slavery, the holocaust, the civil rights movement. The truth is race has been the central conflict in American Life from the day the republic was born. Weve witnessed extreme racism before in periods of upheaval and rapid social change. And now once again we are living in such a time. Hail trump. Hail our people. Hail victory. We need to make America Great again. Trump definitely energized the altright. Because we have this connection with him, we can inflect his policies. We are determined to take the country back. We are going to fulfill the promises of donald trump. Donald trump is not a white supremacist, but there is no doubt hes a hero to many in the movement. A current upsurge might have been triggered, however, because of another president. Thank you. Barack obamas election was a moment of joy and unity for millions of americans. God bless the United States of america. But some, perhaps many, were shocked by it. Clearly the presence of a black family in the white house deranged many millions of americans. Once obama was in the white house, the backlash grew and grew. You remember some of the racist caricatures of obama as a monkey, as a gorilla. Can you hear us now . Overt and ugly displays of racism became common. Afro leninism coming to you on a silver platter, Barack Hussein obama. Why doesnt he give his birth certificate . The incendiary charge that obama was not born in this country. No other american president was badgered to prove he was an american. The idea of whether he was born in the United States, i think thats a metaphor. Is he one of us . Answer no. Obama combined the two fires that feed White Supremacy, attitudes towards blacks and fears about immigration. Whether our forbearers were strangers who crossed the atlantic, the pacific or the rio grande, we are here only because this country welcomed them in. Throughout the history of this country, immigration has reinvigorated the United States. But it has also awakened the darkest american impulses. One little remembered chapter holds a frightening reminder of where those impulses can lead. Ellis island 100 years ago. Immigrants were pouring into the country. At times 100,000 a month. Packed body to body on rickety boats. Penny less, hungry, desperate to become americans. These newcomers were injured just inferior. Polish people or european people or southern italians. They were considered to be different races. People referred to ireland as a race, people from hungary as a race, the jews as a race. With new enemies to hate, membership in the klan soared. Some of americas most prominent men were under those hoods. Hugo black was a member of the ku klux klan. Until 1925. He went on to serve as a Supreme Court justice until 1971. Back then White Supremacy was an elite movement led by some of americas richest and most powerful. They came up with a solution. A pseudoscience called eugenics. Based on the belief that Many Americans were mentally defective. Among them, immigrants. America is degenerating. Eugenicists believed socalled defectives should not be allowed to reproduce. Sterilize women who were thought not capable of having the right kind of children. Thousands of women were sterilized as the fake science became a national craze. The Eugenics Movement decided it was time to bring its socalled research to capitol hill. Charts of data purporting to show that people from italy, from poland, from the slavic countries were genetically inferior to the northern european, the nordic, the aryan, the anglosaxon. A new law was passed in 1924 with draconian cuts and quotas for supposed undesirable people. They shut the doors and reduced immigration to the United States by 97 . Meanwhile, something even more disturbing was happening in europe. An ambitious young german leader was watching america closely. Adolph hitler had some real praise for the United States. Hitler was even meeting with the leaders of the Eugenics Movement. Adolph hitler said the United States is really on the money and we can learn from them. As hitlers power grew and his ambitions became clear, americans saw the terrifying consequences of White Supremacy. Most pulled back from the edge. Eugenics died out in america. Of course, hitlers plans did not. That idea of improving the human race, which is what eugenics is all about, definitely had echos in nazi policy of the 1930s and the holocaust is one horrific consequence of that. White lives matter. White lives matter. The White Supremacy of today has not reached the level it did a century ago. Blood and soil. Blood and soil. But some of its deeply troubling ideas are returning. You dont think all races are equal . No, i do not, and i dont see why anyone would. The White Nationalist jared taylor is a learned man, a graduate of yale like myself, but we dont see eye to eye, to say the least. I want the people of africa to make africa the best possible continent they can for africans. And africans, i believe, will be happiest not living in a society like ours. I think that you place so much weight on the fact that a Certain Group of peoples ancestors spent a lot more time in the sun than another group so their skin is darker. Do you really think do you really think that blacks and whites are basically identical twins separated at birth . That they are really indistinguishable and replaceable . Taylor believes that nonwhites have made america worse. Why are hispanics not okay . They are european. Spaniards are europeans, but the people who qualify as hispanic they can come from honduras or guatemala or mexico. Theyre genetically and visually and physically different from europeans. So in the 19th century, people thought of jews as a separate race. Are they a separate race . They are a subrace of whites. Eastern European Jews they dressed in odd ways, they behaved in odd ways. They were clearly alien. Apparently, taylor says, some jews are white. There are many Ashkenazi Jews that do not look white at all. Racism can become confusing. I want to know who is we and who is they . Mr. Zakaria, almost is there never confusion as to which race someone is. Almost never. Well, lets try one case. Mine. I think scholars would agree i have as good a claim on being caucasian as you do. Caucasian meant people who come out of central asia, out of the caucuses. In fact, the term aryan, which is often another one that is used, comes specifically out of india, which is where i grew up. So why am i not a caucasian . If you are advocating policies based on racial categories, i just want to understand where i fit in. I think most people would not consider you white. Its not a popularity contest. Either this is a scientific fact or it isnt. Most of the time its not all that difficult to tell. How . Even just from visual inspection. You look at people and try to figure out how white they were, even though you dont quite know what white means. 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He had contacts with other White Supremacists across the country. And the inspiration for his attack was a book thats been called the bible of american White Supremacists. It gave birth to a littleknown armed white rebellion. That continues to this day. This is just coldblooded murder any way you put it. To understand Oklahoma City and todays violence in charleston and pittsburgh shots fired. Shots fired. We need to understand mcveighs favorite book. Its called the turner diaries. Nationalism really is the wave of the future. It was written in the 1970s by william pierce. I did admire many things that hitler wrote. He was a onetime physics professor who became a leading figure in the white supremacist movement. Felonous, traitorous. In the 1960s, pierce saw his cause in disarray. I for one will die before yield for years, the allpowerful ku klux klan had led the charge. Threats. Beatings. Rapings. And, of course, murder. We shall overcome then came the civil rights movement. A crushing blow to the klan. Free at last. Free at last. Thank god almighty we are free at last. In its wake, klan membership declined. And White Supremacists were divided white revolution. Among competing ideologies. Pierce wrote the turner diaries hoping to unite the movement behind a story. Pierce knew that fiction would be more powerful than facts. It was the tale of earl turner, a soldier in a white rebellion. We are in a war to the death with the jew. Against the evil jewishcontrolled american government. Turner bombs fbi headquarters and other targets. Joining an elite terrorist group called the order. The group kills millions of blacks, jews and their allies on the road to victory. Spoiler alert, the book ends with turner flying a mega ton bomb into the pentagon. Pierces race war fantasy struck a chord. They got so many requests for the selfpublished paperback they started to stock it. Selling 500,000 copies in the years that followed. Its to this point the most influential piece of white supremacist writing that exists. And what began as fiction white power became a reallife rebellion. Powerful new white supremacist armies sprung up in the 1980s. Boasting tens of thousands of hardcore members. You could say were the front line soldiers for the movements. Many were directly inspired by the turner diaries. Weve offered ourselves up to try to save america. Officially declaring war on the United States government. Fire one group actually took its name from the book. Jews, get the heck out of here. The order. There was a sea change in the kind of activity carried out by the White Power Movement. The groups adopted the books terrorist tactics. They stole 4 million including armed robberies to get funding. Alan burr was murdered after and assassinations. Ten defendants were charged with conspiracy to overthrow the u. S. Government. The federal government tried to bring the movement down. Did you plan to overthrow the government . Indicting several of its ringleaders on seditious conspiracy and other charges but they were acquitted by an allwhite jury. The trial is really important because when it collapsed, the government got paranoid and really backed away from treating White Supremacy as a coherent movement. It is our young people who are going to reclaim america. Emboldened, these white power groups gained even more momentum in the 1990s, collaborating with other antigovernment militias. The White Power Movement grows into the militia movement. Then a bloody standoff. Weavers son, wife and a United States marshal were shot and killed. Between separatists and the government in ruby ridge, idaho. And the divide of the Branch Davidian cult in waco, texas brought the movement to a fever pitch. All these incidents are happening, the number of militia groups in the United States is skyrocketing. The number of white supremacist groups is leaping in tandem with that. Among those angry young men was a gulf war veteran named timothy mcveigh. He had been very interested in the turner diaries while he was in the army. He first got it, he read it constantly for three, four weeks. He kept wanting me to read it. He said you got to read this book. You got to read this book. After mcveigh left the military, he radicalized even more. Getting involved with a militia in michigan. He met with White Supremacists across the nation while on the gun show circuit. Where he also sold his favorite book. It just arrived today. He was outraged by waco. Somebody told me a lot of people would be scared which he visited in person during the standoff. The fiery inferno there drove him to action. He finally decides that this government is so dangerous to its own citizens that it needs to be destroyed. Holy cow. On april 19th, 1995, the twoyear anniversary of waco blown away. Mcveigh carried out what he considered to be his masterpiece. The attack was eerily similar to earl turners attack on the fbi in the turner diaries. It was the same kind of target, a federal building. A similar kind of bomb. Detonated at the same time time of day, just after 9 00 a. M. Mcveigh had become earl turner, his white supremacist hero. When he was arrested a few days after the bombing, he had pages of the turner diaries in his car and thats how people were able to connect the dots on these things. Today there are tributes to mcveigh and to the turner diaries all over the internet. Remember the deadly group said to be planning attacks on Nuclear Plants . Authorities discovered that they had explosives, Radioactive Material and a framed photograph of timothy mcveigh, along with a copy of the turner diaries. How do you gauge the greatness of an suv . Is it to carry cargo. Or to carry on a legacy . Its show of strength. Or its sign of intelligence . In crossing harsh terrain. Or breaking new ground . 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Oh, look, karolyn, weve got a mathematician on our hands check it out now you can schedule a callback or reschedule an appointment, even on nights and weekends. Todays xfinity service. Simple. Easy. Awesome. Id rather not. For White Supremacy to exist white lives matter. White lives matter. There has to be some standard for whiteness. People think they know what white is. If you walk down the street youll say, hey, that person is white, that person doesnt seem white, but as a scientific concept, its completely murky. Experts say visible differences among races are mostly a result of how much time their ancestors spent in the sun. There are differences in color between different peoples, but those do not go along with inner characteristics of intelligence or selfcontrol or anything like that. There are no racial qualities that some people have and other people dont have. You will not replace us. In other words, racial hierarchy is a social chris construction. And who is considered white at the top of the heap has always been determined by those in power. The case of thind tells the story. The thind case in the 1920s shows the absurdity of these racial classifications. Thind was an immigrant from india who had served in the u. S. Army in world war i and later married an american woman. At that time, thind was not allowed to become an american citizen was he was nonwhite. Well, question, who is white . Thind argued that he was white because his people from the state of punjab in india were descendant from aryans, the original caucasians. The term aryans finds its origins in india, referring to the people from central asia who are believed to have later migrated to india. And, remember, that caucasians refers to people from the caucuses mountains. What the court says is that would most white americans view you as white . If the answer to that is no, im sorry, no. Well, what kind of concept is that . The judges made the case that the purity of the aryan blood in india had been destroyed when aryans intermarried with the local population there, implying that thind was therefore not a pure aryan. Ironically, nazi racial policies were based on similar ideas, that the germans were the only pure aryans because the original ones in asia had intermarried. Americas racial distinctions were closely studied by the nazis. [ speaking Foreign Language ] and that learning leaves its imprints, least in part on hitlers nuremberg laws. Thefall but remember jared taylor . I think most people would not consider you white. You believe that whites are superior in terms of intelligence . Oh, the evidence seems to suggest that the smartest people in the world are Ashkenazi Jews, then east asians, then whites. Then hispanics are a very heterogeneous population, black africans and australian aboriginals come up at the bottom. While genetic differences between human populations exist, human beings are in fact 99. 9 identical in their genetic makeup. No less an expert than one of the geneticists who mapped the human genome, craig venter, put it simply, there is no basis in scientific fact or the human genetic code for the notion that skin color will be predictive of intelligence. Nevertheless, efforts to categorize people into a racial hierarchy go back hundreds of years. Whether its five races, three races, africans and mongoloids as they were called. And caucasians as whites were called. There is always this pseudo racial science which tries to give a supposedly objective grounding to a system of what is ultimately a system of prejudice. The case of plessy versus ferguson in 1896 shows just how arbitrary definitions of race can be in america. A man who was white by any definition, homer plessy, but he was considered black because, you know, maybe one black ancestor. Plessy intentionally boarded a whites only train car in louisiana, challenging the states separate but equal laws. The conductor came and said get out of this car, you are not white. When plessy refused to leave, he was arrested in what became known as the separate but equal decision, the Supreme Court ruled against plessy, ushering in decades of discriminatory laws. The idea was to separate black people, to ostracize black people. To put a marker on black people. It was the american cast system. Blood and soil. That is an idea deeply, deeply, deeply entrenched in american culture. [ dogs barking ] what about him . Lets do it. [ sniffing ] come on. This summer, add a new member to the family. Hurry into the mercedesbenz summer event today for exceptional offers. Lease the glc 300 suv for just 419 a month at the mercedesbenz summer event. Going on now. If you have moderate to thsevere rheumatoid arthritis, month after month, the clock is ticking on irreversible joint damage. 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Just, like, an animal. Why would you treat us like that . 51 people murdered during friday evening prayers by a white supremacist. You may have chosen us but we utterly reject and condemn you. The killers weapons were inscribed with names, racist messages and nazi symbols. One of the names was a young swedish girl killed in a terror attack in april of 2017. The new zealand terrorist mentioned her many times in his manifesto. To take very investigation for ebba, he wrote. The inspiration for his gruesome attack came from another white supremacist. Anders breivik committed the worst massacre in norways History History in 2011. An assassin dressed as a Police Officer opens fired a summer camp. He murdered 77 people, most of them teenagers, at a summer youth camp run by the labor party. Breiviks manifesto was a warning about muslim colonization and multiculturalism and a call to arms for other White Supremacists like the new zealand terrorist who echos many of the same themes in his manifesto. He called it the great replacement. Jews will not replace us. Remember, that was one of the chants from the charlottesville rally. But, in fact, the idea doesnt come from america. It comes from a french group of intellectuals, the european new right, that first emerged in the late 1960s as a reaction to the loss of frances colony, algeria. Any colonials who oppose any moderate settlement with muslims. The new right did not want muslim colonists or any foreigners living in france, but by the 1970s, most europeans publicly rejected that kind of racist talk. The Decolonization Movement made europeans very vary of using White Supremacy or cultural supremacy as people began to understand where some of those ideas had led. Colonization has been seen as a shameful chapter in europes history where europeans treated their foreign subjects brutally. For instance, at the end of the 19th century belgians massacred thousands in their territory in the congressco. The backlash to postcolonial gift, the new right, remained on the intellectual fringes for decades. Soon a new movement turned the ideas of the new right in to action. They call themselves identitarians. The internet gave the identitarians the ability to build an interconnected movement. Our culture is dying. It included racist groups across the world. Our movement is growing. Nationalism. Population replacement. The great replacement. They tweet and repost one anothers comments and statements. They watch one anothers videos. Theyre very much part of the same culture now. Then in 2015 the movement found its moment. The migrant crisis. Every day, every hour ships packed full of Illegal Immigrants are flooding the european border. An invasion is taking place. Genuinely large numbers of people began arriving in europe in very dramatic ways. I feel happy. As europe argued over who would take the migrants, sweden set an example and welcomed them in. In my europe, said swedens prime minister, we dont build walls, we help each other out. But instead, 2015 became the year walls and borders were back on the global agenda. Hungary has declared a state of emergency and has totally closed its borders to anyone. It was also the year of a series of deadly terrorist attacks that began to hit the heart of europe. It was ten days after the attack at the bataclan theater in paris that sweden suddenly reversed course. It was painful for swedens leaders to announce the country was restricting its borders, but sweden had quickly become overwhelmed. Percentage wise it had taken in more than any other country in europe. Meanwhile, White Supremacy groups seized on and exaggerated swedens problems. New level of criminality. The farright deliberately made sweden into a symbol of chaos and destruction of western culture. Even americas president jumped on the bandwagon. Sweden. Who would believe this . Sweden. When they hear donald trump using language that they know comes from their ideology. Theyre having problems like they never thought possible. They feel energized and they feel that theyve succeeded. Its wonderful hes addressing this and bringing this to the attention of the people. In fact, sweden has had a in fact, sweden has had a long history of successful immigration. In the most recent parliamentary elections, far right party saw success, including in sweden. Overall, didnt perform as well as predicted. Now there are signs that the political terrain is shifting. Liberal and green parties across the continent saw an astonishing and unexpected surge of support. That happened after this. Tens of thousands took to the streets across europe with an entirely different message. One europe for everyone. 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Everybody ought to read it. The idea is if we dont look out, the white race will be utterly submerged. The dominant race to watch out or these other races its scientific stuff. Its been proved, he says. Fitzgerald might not have been endorsing these sentiments, the character who mouths them is one of the least admirable ones in the book, representing a certain kind of unthinking, vulgar rich man. And yet in 1921, just a few years before he wrote the book, fitzgerald wrote a letter to a critic explaining his own views. The negroids sneak through. Raise the bars of immigration permit only scandinavians to enter. Fitzgerald seems aware his views were not politically correct. He adds in the letter, my reactions were antisocialist, provincial and racially snobbish. He persisted in his view of racial hierarchy. We are as far above the modern frenchman as he is above the negro. The reason i begin with this literary reference is to remind us all how deeply embedded is the idea of racial hierarchy in western civilization. In fact, in some ways its in the dna of the modern west because from the 16th and 17th centuries, as europe grew richer and stronger, it began to assume that its material success must be a result of its superiority, religious or ethnic or racial. This view built on centuries of western success has taken deep root and not just among whites. People across asia and africa prefer light skin to dark. I realize an obstacle was my skin. Spent billions of dollars on creams to make them whiter. In the black community in the United States, theres a preference for lighter skin. Ironically, this all persists despite the fact that were now living this an age where the Fastest Growing economies in the world are asian. Where china and south korea and india are demonstrating powerfully that they can be as materially successful as the whitest and most nordic people. The fact that these views are so deep seeded, subconsciously part of the modern psyche, is why we are unable to see the growing danger in our midst. The number of white militants has grown sharply. They have attacked more often and with greater brutality. And yet the authorities have always seemed to be surprised and unprepared. Perhaps unable to fully internalize the nature of this ideology and its violent ambitions. Its important to understand as america and the western world become more mixed, multicultural, the backlash will grow. White supremacists want to do more than just protest. They make this clear in their internal communications. They are planning for it every day. Lets hope we can all recognize this danger before they succeed. Im fareed zakaria. Thank you for watching. This is not a bed. Its a revolution in sleep. 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