Not because im so romantic. But i am a pragmatist. They often go where the opportunity is and our elected leaders act out of fear of consequence more than out of good conscience and he has to expand his base. Yeah. This was an opportunity. Well, i stick by my thing. This is not politics as usual. This is not about left versus right. Its about right versus wrong. This is about fact versus fiction. This is about reality versus alternate reality or alternate facts which its a great way of thinking but it doesnt play with this particular person. Hes never going to change. He likes being in power. He likes dividing people. He likes the chaos. He thrives on it. He does not want to be a uniter. He is a divider. By nature. Fine. Its not going hes 70 some years old, its not going to change. What we have to do is figure out what do we do with that . And quit wishing you know, wish upon a star, that aint going to happen, hes never, ever, ever going to change. He is who he is. And in some ways you have to respect that. Thats who he is. That is who he is. Hes true to it. I dont respect it because to respect it would assume that he knows it gets him to the right place. I dont see how he gets that rationale. On closing the border, its still possible for someone to get to him and say this is crazy talk, dont do it. Remember why i say what i say, even if he doesnt do it, it resonates with people around him. I dont think its a coincidence democrats found their way to the border. Resonates with who around him, his inner circle . No, forget about them, other people in power. They hear you saying theres an opportunity in this. If the president were to do this, hed look good, no one is stepping up. Theres opportunity here. Theyre looking for opportunity. I have to tell you i dont understand why the democrats are sleeping on the border, i see so much opportunity for them there to swoop in. The president has left this you know, hes left it there. Hes basically just saying you guys do something about it. Theres opportunity there. You give them resources, you give them emergency funding, you show that you care about these kids and these families, now thats something about being our best. Now thats an america that people can believe in. Do you think they could win if democrats did that theres a reason im asking you this question. Do you think they could win over evangelicals and christians who support this president . Some. Okay, because the reason i ask that, you had the fact checker on earlier, one of the things were full, meaning americas full, and it was false. One of the tenets of the bible is that were supposed to take care of the poor and the needy. But you remember the whole story about in the nativity scene with jesus there was no room in the inn and they didnt realize the person they were keeping out was actually jesus, the chosen one. And he winds up in a manger. So you never know who youre trying to keep out, if you believe in the bible, if you are a true christian. Even if you dont, the allegory stands. But you never know, the next person that could become the next senator, the next scientist, the next person who has a cure for cancer. Thats not to say that we should not have restrictions and laws and people should not follow them. 100 . But we should be more humane and if you believe in jesus and god then you should be more of a christian and you should follow the tenets of what your religion tells you. This is not doing that. This is doing the exact opposite. Oh, absolutely. There is a christian hypocrisy involved in it, no question about that. Listen, to your point, the reason that they have jesus in a manger, manger, you know, you like to use french, that is a french word meaning to eat because he was the food for life. He was the food for creation. And these people are the food of our future. Or at least part of it. I just see opportunity in there from a pragmatic perspective because its doing the right thing. And addressing an obvious need. Yeah. And theres opportunity there, don, there just is. I just dont understand why theyre not taking it. Listen, do unto others, just because there may be people who are coming in, im sure there are for nefarious reasons, but there are people coming in for the right reasons and if i were in their position i would want them to give me everyone to give me the benefit of the doubt and to do unto others as you would have them do unto you, very simple. Well said and true words to live by, but not always easy to do. No one does it. Everyone twists that whole bible christianity thing into what they want it to be, instead of exactly what it should be and then you get hypocrisy and then you get what you have now. The new christian perspective seems to be god helps those whom god has helped there are. So if he hasnt helped you before he must want you out the door. You know what i mean . Thats what theyre going on now and its completely hypocritical. Even if it means grabbing someone by the you know what, cheating on your wife, lying, all those things, saying you can shoot someone, you know, i they look the other way on the character counts. I grew up in the church all my life as a baptist, studied catholicism in catholic school, never taught me anything as to what is going on right now. Ive got to run. Hope you have a good weekend. Wait a minute, im going to see you, were going to have fun. See you tomorrow night. Did you just you are so weird. Why . Because you why cant men show affection. Why does it got to be an italian guy. Why must you always hit me with an italian stick. Code switching. Come on, man. Diglossia, who gave it to you . Im educated. I did it myself. Someone told me, i would tell you dont hate. I love you, lemon, thats why i kissed you. Youre embarrassing me, the audience is going its their favorite part of the day. I know. Everyones like when are you and chris going get your show together, do a show together . No, you all dont want that. Bugs bunny and daffy duck. His ego is too big. This is cnn tonight, im don lemon, what a difference a week makes, 168 little hours, think about how things have changed for this president , he started the week on a high, shouting total exoneration to anybody who would listen. Even though thats not what the what mueller said. And now its all empty threats. Its lies, its flipflops on his own favorite policies, all to distract and to deflect. So what doesnt the president want you to know . Think about that. What doesnt the president want you to know . Well, it sure seems like theres something in his tax returns that he wants to hide, to keep secret. A source telling cnn this is the hill, the administration is willing to die on, and theyre willing to take the fight all the way to the Supreme Court. Can you believe that . You dont Say Something like that unless you think its really, really important to keep those returns under wraps. The source also saying this about the battle for the returns this is a quote we will see you in court. Lawyers hired by the president have been preparing for months for this fight. And today they sent a letter to the Treasury Department claiming that the request for the returns is a transparent effort by one Political Party to harass an official from the other party because they dislike his political or his politics and speech. While the president says this. Im under audit. But thats up to whoever it is. From what i understand the law is 100 . I have said this before. It bears repeating every time since the president continues to use the issue of an audit as an excuse to keep his returns hidden, people. This is just the facts. Just the facts. The fact is, and if you dont believe me, just look it up. The fact is an audit would not prevent him from releasing his returns. Just as past president s have done. Okay . Every year dating back to the early 1970s the irs has audited the personal tax returns of every sitting president and vice president. That is not an excuse. A legitimate one. Its a false excuse, but its not a real excuse. Its a flatout lie. Since nixon every president has released his tax returns, except for gerald ford who instead made public a decades long summary. So an audit has nothing to do with it. But of course if theres something in there that you dont want anybody to know about youre going to fight tooth and nail, right . And then theres this president s photo op at the border today, photo op. He tweeted that he checked out the new wall on the border. Now, the president would like you to believe thats a new wall. Theres even a plaque claiming this is the first section of President Trumps border wall dont believe everything you read, even on a plaque. Customs and Border Protection said more than a year ago that the project was Replacement Border fencing, a local Infrastructure Project that had been in the works for some time. Not part of the president s promised wall. Shouldnt the facts matter . Especially if youre one of his die hard supporters and hes telling you this and hes lying to your face and youre making excuses, oh, well its a lie. He wants you to believe him and hes trying to trick you. Does that not bother you at all . The wall or no wall the president seems determined to double down on his antiimmigrant message claiming today the country is full. The system is full. Cant take you anymore. Whether its asylum, whether its anything you want, illegal immigration, cant take you anymore. We cant take you. Our country is full. Our areas full. The sector is full. Cant take you anymore, im sorry. If he really believes that you have to wonder whatever happened to the president s threat to shut down the border this weekend . Not only did he backtrack he claimed he never said it in the first place. I never changed my mind at all. I may shut it down at some point but id rather do tariffs. Never changed his mind, huh . Lets go to the videotape. Mexico is going to have to do something, otherwise im closing the border. I cant imagine it being any worse than it is right now. So theres a very good likelihood that ill be closing the border next week, and that will be just fine with me. Is it your intention, sir, to close the border this week, and what would it take to not close the border. I havent made that intention known. And im ready to close it if i have to close it. If we dont make a deal with congress, the borders going to be closed, 100 . He never said it. And yet there he is saying it. And speaking of the border, the president s nominee for i. C. E. Stabbed in the front today when hiss nomination was suddenly withdrawn, just as he was supposed to fly with the president to the border, awkward. Even the dhs secretary Kirsten Nielsen was caught by surprise and i. C. E. Leadership thought it was a clerical error. The president said this. Were going in a little different direction. Rons a good man but were going in a tougher direction, we want to go in a tougher direction. And by we, you mean stephen miller. Two officials tell cnn that miller told the president that vitiello was not 100 on board with closing the border. Lets not forget the rest of this very, very trumpy week. The president doing a 180 on health care, going from his empty promise of a plan that would be better than obamacare to postponing the whole thing until after the election. The Republican Party will soon be known as the party of health care. You watch. I understand health care now. Especially very well. A lot of people dont understand it. We are going to be the republicans, the party of great health care. We are going to have a plan thats so much better than obamacare. Thank you. Were going to always take care of preexisting conditions. I wanted to delay it myself. I wanted to put it after the election. When the plan comes out, which well be showing you at the appropriate time, its much better than obamacare. We should have done it when we had the position but were going to get it back. And its going to be a better plan. But were going to show it to you after the election. There was no time for a better plan when he had the house and the senate, its going to take two more years. Okay, that makes sense. Theres also his outrageous rant to Congressional Republicans urging them to be more paranoid about elections and implying that the midterms were somehow rigged simply because democrats won. Were going to watch those vote tallies. I keep hearing about the election and the various counting measures that they have. There were a lot of close elections that were they seemed, every single one of them went democrat. If it was close, they say the democrat. Theres something going on. Youve got to be a little bit more paranoid than you are. But we have to be a little bit careful because i dont like the way the votes are being tallied. I dont like it and you dont like it either. You just dont want to say it because youre afraid of the press. Yeah, its you know, you dont have an explanation for things and you just say a lot of words and things. Yeah. A word salad. You just hope no one catches on. I mean, honest, it happens to me sometimes. What did i just say . You all keep falling for the okeydoke. And of course theres mueller. And the constant drip, drip, drip of news that doesnt fit the president s exoneration narrative, some on muellers Team Breaking their silence this week saying their findings are more damaging for the president than the attorney general has revealed. That as the House Judiciary Committee approved a subpoena for the unredacted Mueller Report. And more revelations, could be right around the corner. None of that bodes well for this president. So its probably no surprise he has flipflopped on releasing the report now. Have a right to see the Mueller Report . I dont mind, i mean, frankly i told the house if you want let them see it. Let it come out. Let people see it. The attorney general but it wouldnt bother me at all. Up to the attorney general, wouldnt bother me at all. Attorney general said today that he intends to release the Mueller Report in full to congress and then the public. Do you agree with that decision or do you want the white house to take a look over it for privilege . I have great confidence in the attorney general and if thats what hed like to do, i have nothing to hide. I think its ridiculous. We went through two years of the mueller investigation. So theres no collusion. Theres no obstruction. And now were going to start this process all over again . I think its a disgrace. One of my late famous dear friends said, you can google this, lies, lies, and more lies. Lies on top of lies. Just look it up. Empty threats. Lies. And flipflops. All to distract and deflect. So the question is what is what is it the president doesnt want you to know . What doesnt he want you to know . Think about it. And will we ever learn the whole truth and nothing but the truth . So will congress and the American People settle for anything less than the full Mueller Report . Were going to discuss. Philip bump, max boot, april ryan, next. Six months, six pushups ready. Up. Up. Down. Down. Ah ah thats one. Up. Thats two. Down. Down. Get down, get down. Anna, do you yes those plans . I just wanted to show you something ive been wor. James r. And associates. Anna speaking. James r. And associates. Anna. [phone ringing] baker architects. This is anna baker. At northwestern mutual, this is what our version of Financial Planning looks like. Tomorrow is important, but youre ready to bet on yourself today. Find an advisor at northwesternmutual. Com. Did you eat all of your treats . Help i need somebody help not just anybody help you know i need someone the attorney general, william barr, set to testify on capitol hill next week about the his departments budget. But youve got to wonder whether questions about the Mueller Report will come up. Thats as barr is under growing pressure from democrats as well as republicans to release it in full without redactions. Lets bring in philip bump, National Correspondent for the washington post, also max boot, the author of corrosion of conservatism, why i left the right, and april ryan, the author of under fire, reporting from the front lines of the trump white house. Good evening to everyone. Max, were getting close to the 14day mark for the attorney general sending his letter to congress, battle lines are already drawn. Ing anything but the full report going to fly . No. It shouldnt fly. I mean, you know, barr has committed to releasing the report but theres a real issue as to how much of it is he going to redact . He can hide behind the fact theres classified information here, grand jury material but that should not be an obstacle because what the classified information, congress is clear to see that. They can see the classified report. Now, with the grand jury material its a little bit different but there is ample precedent for him to go to a judge and ask to unseal the grand jury material because there is an overriding public imperative here for the country to see the report. So he can do that. If he tries to hide it its not going to be credible. He has no credibility right now because were seeing members of the mueller team, after 22 months of silence, leaking that barr is distorting their findings. That is damning and devastating to barrs credibility right now. That is surprising theyve kept theyve kept quiet for so long. You have pored over the polling and you say theres one group that would not be surprised that barr is undersold this Mueller Report. Yeah, the only group that would not be surprised if barr is sort of oversold how trump got off was most persons. The majority of americans feel like are skeptical, are skeptical of what barr put forward. Theres good reason to be skeptical. He quotes mueller saying he wasnt exonerated in obstruction. Comes up with this rationale for why it doesnt apply. Quotes mueller midsentence about the issue of collusion or conspiracy. There are all these reasons to be skeptical, polling shows a the vast majority of americans want to see the full Mueller Report, b, they are skeptical that barr represented what mueller said accurately and or completely. Those two things combined if for no other reason, barr should release this. We dont know whats in that report and maybe its not incriminating, who knows, but i think people just want to know for themselves. And why should they . Take a summary as the gospel . Its not all that innocuous. Otherwise the administration would be rushing to release it, right . Do you think, april, that the president overplayed his hand when he falsely said the report exonerated him, basically, because we have only seen the letter . Yeah. Most definitely. The president overreached on this. You know, there is a cloud of darkness over this report. Im not talking about an april showers cloud, im talking about a cloud of, you know, truth versus a lie. The president is saying hes exonerated and then youre hearing his own Justice Department saying that, look, he was cleared on the issue of collusion, but not on obstruction of justice. People need to see the american taxpayers, those who even voted for this president , this is not about politics, this is about career clearing up any confusion that the president is putting out and his Justice Department is putting out. This is not politics, this is just truth. Go ahead. Very quickly, in barrs letter there is information that is not yet public that speaks to obstruction. He himself said most of this is public, not all of its public. We know theres information in there that speaks to that issue itself, still behind wraps. Before barrs letter the president attacked mueller countless times for months, 13 angry democrats, clearly worried before that barr letter came out but after the letter we heard this. Yes, yes. The Mueller Report was great. It could not have been better. It said no obstruction, no collusion, it could not have been better. So april, now were hearing from some on muellers team for the first time that they are frustrated with how barr summarized their investigation, max talked about that, you know, they kept quiet for a long time and now theyre speaking out. What will we see from trump when the report actually does come out . You know, this president is concerned, no matter what. He was able to shape the narrative before people saw the report. And he still is shaping the narrative, wrongly, maybe, but even so this president is concerned because once that report comes out it will refute, if the report is given in its entirety, and without redactions, it will refute what they will try to shift it, craft it, mold it in a way that makes the president look good. But right now the president is kind of concerned because he he says one thing, but he really feels another. He says he wants it to be out. But if it comes out it will just totally change what he has said. Okay. Everybody stick with me. We have lots more to talk about. The president visiting the border today and declaring that our country is full. Well, what a message for an american president to say. These folks, they dont have time to go to the post office they have businesses to grow customers to care for lives to get home to they use stamps. 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So max, the president visited california this afternoon and in this border city there is a twomile stretch of replacement barrier which was authorized prior to trump becoming president. Lets take a look at this. Theres a plaque calling it the first section of President Trumps border wall. Lies are being sign posts now. The lies are migrating from twitter into actual plaques on walls and thats scary because that means the federal government is basically cooperating in helping donald trump to deceive the world. Do people care . Well, clearly trump cares, he thinks that his followers care because he promised them this damn wall and its not it still hasnt been built but he has to pretend that it is being built. Do people care that hes lying . Thats like, you know, saying like putting a plaque on the statue of liberty, you know, the first place for something thats a total lie, wouldnt people be outraged if someone did that . They should be. People are inured to trumps lies according to the post fact checker he has uttered more than 900 falsehoods. A few lies from previous president s would stand out and wed be all over it for weeks. With him the cascade of lies is so heavy its hard to focus on any one lie and we kind of get used to rolling our eyes and saying thats just trump being trump. We should not accept this kind of daily assault on the truth from the president of the United States. That is extremely dangerous and destabilizing to our democracy. He limited his trip to be with just government personnel, Law Enforcement officers, did not visit any Detention Center and he had this message for anyone who may come to the u. S. Seeking asylum. Watch. Cant take you anymore. We cant take you. Our country is full. Our areas full. The sector is full. Cant take you anymore. Im sorry. The sector is full. That sounds like one of those movies. Sector alert, sector nine, someone has escaped. So the country is full . Yeah. No, its actually not. If you look around you we see lots of space to store people if we need to. The point donald trump is trying to make, being very generous, the point hes trying to make is that the asylum system in the United States has a massive backlog of cases, they come to the border, claim assume lumbar, go through a legal process, something the government has to adhere to in which they have a hearing and are evaluated whether or not they deserve asylum in the United States that is a process which is massive backlog and is a problem. Thats fair. Why not just say that . Its donald trump. This is what he does. He had the talking point there to say, look, we have the system is full but we had to extend it to the country is full. The United States is literally one of the least heavily populated countries in the world. Doing the math, just the houses that are right now vacant because they are rental properties or forsale, fit 45 Million People in those houses. April was the cruelty the point . Yes, most definitely. This president and his administration and stephen miller, we cant leave him out, early on they knew, they had zero tolerance on their mind. The only reason why they changed that is because of an outcry from americans. They want people to realize there is punishment for crossing the border illegally. And basically theyre saying even before this when the president sounded like he was talking about a cup of coffee being full or a cabinet being full, basically what theyre saying if you come youre going to suffer the consequences. We dont have any room. Youre going to go back. Were going to push you back. This is about the browning of america and they dont like it. Theyre trying to push back any way they can by any means necessary using that term once again for malcolm x. All right, thank you all, i appreciate it. 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Is he concerned that people might learn that hes not as rich as he claims to be or that he is cheating on his taxes or that he is not paying any taxes at all or little or not very charitable or hes not as good a business person as he says, what is he afraid of . All of the above, i dont know. Everything don, everything thats on your list, plus some other things. Remember, donald was tried twice for income tax fraud, lost both cases. So he likely has manufactured things on his returns. If he has revenues reported on his streams of income or expenses reported on his tax returns that dont match up with financial transaction records, which can be obtained later he could have other serious problems. So im not the least bit surprised hes trying to fight this. The problem he has is theres an absolutely chris call clear anticorruption statue. What donald is really saying is im above the law. Okay. Michael, an Administration Official says that the president is willing to take this all the way to the Supreme Court and this is the hill that theyre willing to die on. Why is any talk of finances always a third rail and always a red line and you cant go there . Why is that . Well, i think the president , and before he was president , businessman donald trump, is allergic to facts. So hes always resisted any form where theres actually raw numbers, in this case numbers that hes attested to and affixed his signature to. Its sort of like the issue with his health. You know, someone goes in, and they have a medical exam and then the doctor comes out and says, well, youre an inch taller than you really are and you weigh 30 pounds less. He can fudge it when its his doctor and hes going to try and give him a big job in the next day but he cant fudge it with the irs and he cant fudge it with banks. David also pointed to something really significant and that is that im sure his taxes and his Financial Statements do not align well. This is trouble for him. And then finally i think that the American Public will likely find out that hes paid almost no taxes because real estate is special when it comes to the income tax laws. Youre able to write off huge sums and then when youre done writing off that property sell it and roll it over into a new property, and then start writing that off too. Most businesses cant do that, and i think americans would be shocked to learn how little hes paid in taxes over the years. Interesting. So jennifer i have to ask you, one has to wonder if hes fighting so much to take this all the way to the Supreme Court, the hill theyre willing to die on, see my lawyers, what have you, wonder what is it people dont want is the law on his side . Its not. I never get to say this so definitively, but this is a slam dunk. The law is not on his side. Theres a very clear statute that gives the ways and Means Committee a clear path to getting this. Theres no legal obstacle in his way. Thats why the letter his lawyers wrote today was so weak. It had no legal argument in it at all. All it did was allege that this is a political issue, just his political opponents trying to get this for political purposes. And they have all sorts of reasons to get this pursuant to their oversight responsibilities, i mean, theres so many conflicts of interests here with financial dealings hes had so there are plenty of legitimate reasons, theyre going to win this legal fight. This is what his lawyers said, a quote, his lawyers arguing letter to the Treasury Department basically saying, the purpose for requesting the president s return, the purpose is not driving chairman neals request, insisting they dont like his politics and his speech. Is that no. Does that carry any weight or water . No, no. I mean, look, in order to win in court they would have to prove that this is a bad motive. They would have to prove that this is just political harassment and theres no legitimate reason to get these. But they have all sorts of legitimate reasons to get these. This is just their way to say were going to throw these out there, this is the argument were going to make and by the way the real thing theyre trying to do comes at the end of the letter where they say we think this is a really important issue, were asking the office of Legal Counsel to write an opinion about this and you have to wait for that. So what this really is is a stall tactic. They want justice to start writing legal opinions to the Treasury Department. Its all a way to delay the inevitable. Will ways and means get what they want . I think they will. Wow. But i also think prosecutors already have a lot of his tax returns, theyre investigating the business. If theres tax fraud, theyre going to find out and thats where he has trouble on the criminal side. His lawyers, david, are also arguing that this would set a dangerous precedent. Isnt the real dangerous precedent a candidate and a president not providing their returns like we have seen every president from every president since nixon . That is absolutely right. And we should probably have a statute enacted that president s returns are made public. Donald also files in new york state which strictly follows the federal government, except for retirement income. So state prosecutors in new york are looking at donald trump. He is not going to be able to escape this. If he gets to the Supreme Court, chief Justice John Roberts is not mitch mcconnell. He is not going to sully the Supreme Courts reputation to help donald trump evade the tax police and the chairman of the committee that oversees the tax police. Interesting. Michael, ive been wanting to talk to you about this since this story broke, i think yesterday, theres also the but theres also no doubt that donald trump always tries to seed the field. He wants to put people into whatever conflict he might be approaching who will rule in his favor, who will act in his on in his benefit. And so the strange thing about the administration, though, is that they have lost, by some estimates, 90 to 94 of the cases that have been brought against them challenging their policies. So this doesnt speak well about hiring all the best people. And im not sure this suggests that mr. Desmond is exactly the right person for this position. If its other than defending the president. So i would assume that thats part of the motive here. Thank you all. Appreciate your time. Certainly seems like joe biden is running for president even though he hasnt officially declared, with the democratic field growing bigger and bigger, is the party prepared to take on trump. 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I look at the opportunity to provide every person a real chance at creating their own version of the American Dream as one of the holdings of this country. And when i was mayor of denver we spent 30 months yes, im going to pass it. Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper joins me. That was a good response. You answered right away. You said a great country this is a quote from you, a great country should acknowledge its mistakes and that apology should come from the oval office. Er do you believe donald trump would do anything about reparations for enslaved it africanamericans . He certainly hasnt shown any indication so far. Slavery is a nagging, unrelenting shame of america. And i think that we have to tone, recognize it and i think at some point there has to be an apology. Why do you think so many people are so hesitant of any r even an idea of a commissions orrer the possibility of some sort of reparation . Well, i mean reparations could take a million forms. Its hard to figure out how you would divide reparations up. I mean older people get more or less. Other groups that have been treated unfairly i thunk you look at things like education and certainly one thing we should make a commitment to is make sure that every kid who is struggling to keep up with their grade level in terms of learning how to read in third grade or learning how to do fractions and Multiplication Division in fifth grade, that we make sure they arent left behind. The last thing. Are you concerned this is going to be a litmus test, this whole idea of reparations and that it can somehow lock you in or it may not be so favorable . You know, im not sure how thats going to come down. I dont really worry about that much. After i left nan, i spent the afternoon and evening in birmingham at brian stevensons museum and memorial, which looks at lynching all over the United States from about 1875 right up until 1950. And that is so sobering. If you dont really understand the reason why this country should apologize for allowing slavery to exist as long as it did and after slavery allow statesanctioned racial bias and discrimination going all the way from jim crow up to equal housing, equal employment opportunities. Come down to birmingham and spend a couple of hours in this museum and i guarantee you it will open anybodys eyes. I lived there and i know what youre talking about or visit the 16th Street Baptist Church where the four little girls were killed. Black voters make up some 20 all of democratic voters. How do you plan to energize those voters and convince them to support you . Well, you know, what ive done the eight years as mayor and governor, i tried to go to people, to go to every voter and go to where they are, their places of worship, their homes their meetings, symbolic places like certain memorials and museums and really try to listen and understand. Part of running for president is youre out there looking at the future creating a vision and describing your vision to the public and reflecting and understanding our history so we dont repeat it. I think thats very precious to many africanamericans and at some point i have to go and listen and really demonstrate that i can hear the issues that africanamerican voters care most about. John hickenlooper, appreciate your time, sir. Thank you. Have a good weekend. Its always a pleasure. Thank you. The fight Robert Muellers report heating up. Whats on the line . Next. Understand. Help i need somebody help not just anybody help you know i need someone billions of problems. Morning breath . Garlic breath . Stinky breath . Theres a therabreath for you. Therabreath fresh breath oral rinse instantly fights all types of bad breath and works for 24 hours. So you can. Breathe easy. Theres therabreath at walmart. To save 30 on all the medications we carry. So go directly to petmeds. Com now. This is cnn tonight. I am don lemon. As pressure mounts as attorney general barrs handling of the report, he is scheduled to testify on capitol hill next week about the budget but likely will face questions about the Mueller Report. Dont forget theyre demanding he release the full report without redactions. And Jeremy Nadler is vowing to issue it if barr doesnt cooperate. Hes also turning up the heat, demanding the Justice Department turn over communications between barr and mueller. So far he says hell release a redacted version by the middle of this month and that clock is