Have to worry about the sentencing guidelines. So i hear you on that. Let me bounce this to you, garber, because wheres the there there . There is no case. I get the sentencing guidelines, but we dont even have charges. So what is there to flip on, and what would he have to flip with . Yeah. So heres the problem. Ive represented a lot of folks under investigation, and the problem is before you even get to the sentencing guidelines, theres the investigation. I mean think of Michael Cohen. Think of being him and having your office raided, reading about yourself every day in the newspaper, having your career taken away from you, everything, and potentially losing your livelihood, everything, everything, everything. And that, that notion alone, focuses the mind. All right. And many of us in the media, we talk to Michael Cohen. I certainly do. This has been difficult for him, but we still dont know what the case is about, so we really dont know where the sympathies should lie. Another point for you, jeffrey,
on how real the flipping could be. If prosecutors believe that he knows something thats so valuable that it would overwhelm whatever they have on him, whatever that is, why Hasnt Mueller asked to talk to him . Well, we dont know that he hasnt. I mean, you know, theres a lot we dont know about this investigation. What degree now, he is under investigation now from the fortunately prosecutors in manhattan, the Southern District of new york. Right. Theyre the people who got the Search Warrant. But if there is a cooperation agreement, whether its immunity then its with everybody. Exactly. You cant pick and choose once youve agreed to cooperate. So, you know, you make a very fair point here, which is we dont know what, if any, crime he will be charged with. But, look, they got a Search Warrant to search his offices. They didnt pick his name out of the phone book. I mean they got a Search Warrant for a lawyers office. Thats very unusual. That usually requires a very substantial showing of probable cause or even more. So you could even tell in cohens interview with stephanopoulos, he knows hes at tremendous risk here. Thats why the change in tone, i think. You know, counselor garber, youre representing donald trump. Michael cohen is hanging out there in the wind. Do you allow him to be isolated the way they have apparently done to him . Do you not pay his fees, leave him out there, nobody talks to him. Lets him get beat up in the media. Theres nothing subtle about Whats Going On here with cohen. Are you surprised by how theyre playing this on team trump . So but heres the difficulty. The time to make that decision was probably earlier. The concern id have now, if i were on team trump, is making a move now to pardon him, making a move now to pay his fees. What about pay his bills and
say, look, this is an extension of what he was doing for me, im going to pay his bills. Im not even sure thats ethical at this point. Remember, he is a position to i mean cohen is in a position to cooperate against trump. If trump starts paying his legal fees, i mean i think guy petrillo, the lawyer, might not even but all of this supposedly extends from Whats Going On. And how do you know petrillo is not going to accept it . He wants to get paid, doesnt he . He does, but there are certainly ethical obligations on lawyers that you cant be paid essentially to fail to cooperate against someone. Garber, do you agree . Yeah, well, thats sort of my point. If what hes being paid for his fees are being paid for, you know, for his legal defense, as you say, chris, arising out of his activities with the trump organization, thats one thing. But if hes being paid to not cooperate, to not talk, that becomes problematic. And if i were representing
trump, id probably tell him, look, you should assume that right now, right now Michael Cohen is cooperating. So you shouldnt be talking to anybody about we know hes been cooperating, right . Everybody who asks him for stuff, he produces it. Were talking about something else. Were talking about him working with prosecutors on a but thats what cooperation is. I dont think we know that Michael Cohen is cooperating. He had his office searched. He didnt have any choice in that. But is he meeting with prosecutors . Is he telling him the full story of his relationship with donald trump, all of his Business Dealings including in the Taxi Industry . I dont think we know whether cohen is doing that. We dont, but let me say the fact that he had his office searched doesnt mean hes not cooperating. Ive represented cooperators who still have their offices searched. If i were on team trump, i would be very careful. If you were a prosecutor or agent right now, this would be a pretty interesting dangle. Youd want to dangle this out
and see how team trump reacts to it. Its also weird that they dont have anybody talking to him. Assuming that thats true, to just leave him out there, all right, you guys have convinced me. You dont want to pay his legal bills. I believe you guys. Two against one. But to have nobody talking to him, nobody telling him its going to be okay. Very odd in the world of politics. Very odd in trump world as well, jeffrey. And its going to be an interesting play here because Michael Cohen feels forgotten clearly. He does feel forgotten, but this is why lawyers tell everyone involved to shut up, because if trump were to Start Talking to cohen, that could be used against trump later on. It doesnt have to be him. Well, or someone it could be you. It could be someone who knows both, who is a liaison. I understand that, but that could be spun perhaps persuasively as an attempt to influence his testimony, and that, i think, is something that the trump team would certainly want to avoid. I dont even understand why
cohen did this interview with george stephanopoulos. I think he would have been better off just keeping his mouth shut. This is why lawyers tell people, keep your mouth shut. But what does it tell us that he did decide to speak. That hes freaking out. When you leave somebody out there, it should not be unusual to any of you watching us three good looking gentlemen watching tonight, that hes going to choose his family over somebody who used to be his best friend. Good to have you both. Welcome to the show. Good to be here. You know who else might have something to say about this . The one and only anthony scaramucci. A lot to talk to him about. Look at him there. Good to have him on the show. Lets get some insight into what the president is thinking on some very key things going on in our government. Right back with anthony, next. Ballpark. Ue [park announcer] all Military Members stand and be recognized. Sometimes fans cheer for those who wear a different uniform. No matter where or when you served, tmobile stands ready to serve you. Thats why were providing half off family lines to all military. If you have moderate to thsevere rheumatoid arthritis, month after month, the clock is ticking on irreversible joint damage. Ongoing pain and stiffness are signs of joint erosion. Humira can help stop the clock. Prescribed for 15 years, humira targets and blocks a source of inflammation that contributes to joint pain and irreversible damage. Humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. Serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. Before treatment, get tested for tb. Tell your doctor if youve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if youve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flulike symptoms or sores. Dont start humira if you have an infection. Help stop the clock on further irreversible joint damage. Talk to your rheumatologist. Right here. Right now. Humira. Rewards me basically aeverywhere. Om so why am i hosting a dental convention after party in my vegas suite . Because hotels. Com lets me do me. Who wants to floss me . Hotels. Com. You do you and get rewarded. [ drum roll ]. Emily lapier from ames, iowa. This is emilys third nomination and first win. Um. So, just. Wow um, first of all, to my fellow nominees, it is an honor sharing the road with you. And of course, to the progressive snapshot app for giving good drivers the discounts no, i have to say it
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with cohen talking to the media and putting out these none too subtle hints that he will take care of himself . Well, listen, i see it a little bit differently, and i did talk to michael this morning because i wanted to get some clarification from him, and i knew i was coming on your show. So lets go over the different layers of what he says. On the first layer, him saying that hes loyal to his family and his country is not incongruous with him also being loyal to the president , who happens to still be a close friend of Michael Cohens. So i think theres a little bit of an exaggeration going on in the media right now where thats a warning shot, indication, and all that other stuff. I think thats very consistent. Second layer has to do with the fbi. Michael said right after the raid, i think he tweeted it out that he was, you know, treated well by the fbi, and they about very, very professional to him. Right. And so, again, people are saying that thats against the president. I actually dont think so. The president s been very clear
that theres a very thin layer of people inside the fbi that he feels weaponized that agency. But he really loves the rank and file, and he loves law enforcement. Its a mixed message, but i agree with you that i dont think that thats whats playing here. It seems that cohen is taking opportunities. Yeah. To speak to the media that seem very purposeful. Well, i think, again, i think jeff made mention earlier. Do you talk to the media or not talk to the media when youre under the potential of investigation . Most lawyers would say no, but i think in this case, i think michaels trying to signal to people that he really doesnt feel that he did anything wrong, and hes trying to signal to people frankly that hes not a villain in the case. And so its 12 1 2 weeks, chris, since that raid on his familys residence and his hotel room, et cetera. So lets see what happens. When Paul Manafort had his problem, i think it was eight or nine weeks later they rendered
an indictment. Right. So i think once we know what that indictment is, then you and i can sit down and discuss what the potential much better because right now were talking about him flipping, and i agree. I get the speculation, especially with all these reports coming out with friends of his who say he might. There arent any charges. So well hold on this one until a person thats had a 12year very a person had a 12year very close relationship with then mr. Trump. I think the threshold standard here of, quote, unquote, flipping is very high. And the last point i want to make is if the president did anything wrong, and i take the president at his word, theres nothing to flip over, chris. That we dont know, and certainly hes allowed Michael Cohen to feel very isolated and underfunded for his own defense. Those were calculations. Well see how they come back. Well, i dont like that strategy. I agree with you on that. I can understand why you dont like it. Let me ask you about a couple other things while i have you
because i know time is short tonight. Second, why would the white house deny the request to lower the flags for the victims of the Capital Gazette newspaper mass murder . Why do that . Yeah. You know, its a tough one, chris. Im not really . You dont think its a nobrainer. I dont know what the Protocol Standard well, i certainly would do it. Right . But there might be some pushback as it relates to the military and when the flags get lowered and no, theres no protocol. They did it after vegas. They did it after parkland. They did it for barbara bush. Im not criticizing any of these moves, but he could have done it. Again, im not here to apologize for the white house. I certainly would have done it. It just seems like when the stuff goes straight up to the president , it gets done properly. And so my question would be to the people inside the white house, does the president know that because hes a very compassionate guy. You know, he switched the policy on the separation of the children once he got his arms around it. He started the policy of the
separation of the children. And then he put out an Executive Order that was fugazi as a 5 rolex. He didnt fix anything. Okay. Were going to push back on each other now. He actually did not start that policy. It started under the george w. Bush administration. No, not like this, anthony. It was partially prosecuted during the obama he did Zero Tolerance. Hold on a second. He told sessions to do it. He liked it. Chris, read my oped. I did. Read my oped today in the usa today. Its very declarative. It explains exactly how it got started, and you got to give him credit for reversing it. Lets stipulate that he did promulgate it to use your words. Give him credit for recognizing that he was wrong and making the reversal. He never said he was wrong. I think its very good of the president well, he said it by his actions, didnt he . He reversed the policy. No. You would say it. Thats what a man does in a situation like that. Thats what a leader does, man or woman. He didnt do it. He said he fixed it with an Executive Order that didnt fix it. Theyre still separated. Its still a mess. He he changed it, and weve got to put the families back together. The first ladys been down to the border twice. I agree with you that its a problem. I agree with you that its the wrong policy. Is it going to beat him in november . Quinnipiac poll comes out and says immigration has now taken over the economy in terms of what will drive peoples votes. He had high ground on this with enforcement. Then he crushed those kids. I agree. I agree with that, and i he handed it to the democrats with this one move. Well, i think hes going to fix it. Theres a long time youre from a political family. Theres a long time to go here between now and november. I got warm blood pumping through my heart. Thats how i understand this. You dont have to understand politics for this, anthony. It was an insensitive, inhumane move, and even trump had to back off. He didnt apologize like a normal leader would, but he had to back off. As surprising as it might be to your viewers, you and i are actually agreeing on this. Youre just agreeing with me. You dont want to give the guy any credit for switching the policy. Yeah, i dont. Not when you start it. It doesnt work like that in terms of accountability. But, anthony, you know what does count . You coming on Fourth Of July week even though your about five steps from my house in southampton. Go stop over there. Im happy to be here and i feel bad that youre not, chris. Ive got to do my job. Thank you for helping me do it. This quinnipiac poll. This is very unusual for immigration to be this high. I know theres a flash point right now. Who knows if it sustains . But what is the democrat play here . Abolish i. C. E. . This growing, rallying cry for democrats. Are they bailing trump out on the immigration issue . Were going to have a great debate about that. What do you say . Next. Does your Business Internet provider promise a lot . Lets see who delivers more. Comcast business gives you gigspeed in more places. The others dont. We offer up to 6 hours of 4g Wireless Network backup. Everyone else, no way. We let calls from any of your devices come from your business number. Them, not so much. We let you keep an eye on your business from anywhere. The others . Nope get internet on our gigspeed network and add voice and tv for 34. 90 more per month. Call or go on line today. No child should have to live in fear of a government tearing away their parents. But listen to this. 12yearold leah telling her emotional story at one of the nationwide protests to keep undocumented Families Together this weekend. I. C. E. Wants to take my mom away from me. I dont like to live with this fear. Its scary. I cant sleep. I cant study. I am stressed. I am afraid that they will take my mom away while she is at work, out driving, or at home. I dont understand why this administration Wont Support Mothers who just want a better life for their children. Now, kids like that could be the face of trumps trouble come november, all right . Yet what are we seeing from the democrats when it comes to this issue . Abolish i. C. E. That is the making of a great debate, and we have two great debaters. Nina turner and rick santorum. Thank you to both of you. I know this weekend this week
is tough for people. Thank you for making the time. Appreciate it. All right. So lets deal with what we just saw in the quinnipiac poll. Ive never seen anything like this before. The economy losing to Immigration Heading into the midterms. What does that tell us, rick . That tells us trump really went wrong with what he did with the kids. And now hes created an issue for himself. How serious do you think it is . You know, look, i think he handled the situation poorly, but, look, i think theres a deeper issue here, and that is that donald trump is standing up for working men and women when it comes to making sure that were not bringing people into this country in large enough numbers to undermine the lowskilled workers that we have in this country, who are, as nina will talk about, are struggling right now, are not seeing their wages going up and their quality of life increasing. So if trump continues to hit on those themes, which he does he doesnt stay on them as well
as he should. But if he continues to stay on those themes with respect to immigration and that thats the focal point of his immigration policy, i think hes going to be fine. Heres the rub. One we see in the polls hes not. You cant just hide in the base in the midterms. Hes got to widen that tent if he can. 60 , nina, are saying we dont like what happened down there. You have a twopronged argument coming back at him. One is this isnt true about the low skilled work easy. These people coming across, theyre not taking your jobs. Thats not your problem. But we are taking their kids and that is a problem for you. Is that a tough sell . Is it a good play for democrats to play on this issue . I mean just to hear the little girl i call them babies. I mean thats exactly what they are. Shes only 12. Theyre young children. Even today mothers are Writing Letters to their children. Were traumatizing children in america in the 21st century, and that should not be the case. The president , as you were talking to scaramucci, the president started this. He should be ashamed of himself, but hes not. This is about a moral imperative in this country that this president is failing. And so whether its to abolish i. C. E. My concern is that we need to abolish President Trump at the ballot box starting this year, next year, headed into 2020. You said the a word. Are you about abolishing i. C. E. , nina . I just want to get you on record. Do you like that play by the democrats, abolish i. C. E. . I know why people are saying abolish i. C. E. , but my concern is with this president , he will just replace that function with something else. We need to be about abolishing the Trump Administration at the ballot box starting this year with the midterm elections, into next year, and into 2020. But are you worried that youre bailing him out . Youve got him in a bad place on immigration. He screwed up. He did something that is inhumane and indecent, and people are calling him out for it of all kinds of political stripes except for one concentrated aspect of his base. Then, not since Roseanne Barr said what she said, only to be followed by samantha bee, who somehow wound up doubling down on dumb, have we seen the democrats help trump in a moment of need because abolish i. C. E. Plays right into youre about open borders. Youre not about law enforcement. Youre about letting anybody come in here even if theyre killers and drug dealers. Why make this play . Yeah, and thats not the case. We should stay focused. The first, second, third, fourth, and fifth position here should be about those children and reuniting those children with their parents, mothers, fathers, aunts, uncles, grandparents. That is the most compelling argument that the democrats have, and that is what is tapping, i believe, into that poll that you showed. Its about what is happening to children and what do we stand for in the 21st century as americans. But thats why hold on, nina, i here your case. Lets bounce it back to rick. Thats why trump is loving this abolish i. C. E. Stuff. That is creating a division
within the democratic party. I am exaggerating for effect how resonant and deep it is within the party right now, but there are big names, rick, who are coming out and saying maybe the most helpful thing to Donald Trumps ears. I think what nina is saying is de facto abolish. What nina is saying is anybody that comes over to this country illegally and crashes the border and comes in with a child is going to be a Catch And Release program, which means that we have no borders. No, i didnt say that. No, thats what you said. I did not say that. Dont put words in my mouth, senator, because i dont put words in your mouth. I never said that. What im saying is this country has a moral hold on. I cant hear anything. Wait. If you didnt say it, nina, then what is your position . If its not Catch And Release, what are you saying so rick can respond with accuracy . What is it . First of all, chris, he has some nerve trying to put words in my mouth. He needs to listen to what im saying and make his point instead of trying to control what im saying. Hes listening now. Im all ears, nina. This is the point is that this country we should not be separating children from their parents. Keep them together. Let the process work, but keep them together. Stop traumatizing these children. That has nothing to do with we definitely need to make sure that we keep criminals out, but your party keeps overlaying that every Single Person thats trying to get into this country is a criminal. It is about black and brown folks in this country that you guys continue to label as criminals, and were sick of it. Its wrong. Its absolutely wrong. Again, youre dont put words in my mouth. Well, you just put words in the republican mouth, which is somehow that has to do with race, and it has nothing to do with race. Oh, it has everything to do with race. Its about protecting our borders. I disagree with you. Thats fine. A country has a right to have borders, and what you said is that children and their parents should be kept together. Well, as you know, theres a law that says you can only keep a child in detention with a family for 20 days. Now, the democrats have not been
willing to change that law. There are ample opportunities for the democrats in the house and senate to support an effort to do exactly what you want, but theyre not. Neither are your guys. Im not letting the congress off the hook. But you guys arent changing it either. Republicans arent changing it. You control everything. But we should. But youre not. Why arent you . No, we dont control everything. You control everything. We dont control everything. You control, the house, the senate, and the presidency, and now the Supreme Court. You control everything. To do what the president asked was just to change that law, requires 60 votes, which means ten democrats have to join republicans. From what i understand, thats not there to pass that kind of bill. The reality is republicans would love to fix this problem, and democrats dont want to fix the problem because they believe their great political advantage to keeping the problem as bad as it is. Last word to you, nina turner. Its really a shame that the
republicans control both houses of congress and the presidency and all of a sudden they want to make this the democrats problem. The president started this Zero Tolerance policy, and he can fix it. If he wants the congress to fix it not by design. They did it. Not with any [ Overlapping Voices ] two wrongs dont make a right. Hold on. Scale matters when youre dealing with humanity. This isnt an aba cuss. Were not talking about bean counting. When you dont have judges and you dont have accommodations, you knew what you were doing. You did it anyway. Thats his problem. We see it in the polls. Well see where it leads. Rick santorum, appreciate it. Nina turner, as always, thank you. North korea no longer a threat, so relax. Thats what President Trump told you, right . U. S. Intelligence says otherwise. We have the experts. We have the information. We need to talk about the implications, next. Dear greatgreatgrandfather,
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administration official, at least one of the president s own Intelligence Agencies believe that kim jongun has zero intention of fully denuclearizing. Okay. So why do we see this and say this . Satellite images suggesting that north korea is making progress on a Ballistic Missile site. So how does all this jibe with the president s claim that there is no longer a Nuclear Threat from north korea . Lets discuss. Ambassador nicholas burns, a former u. S. Ambassador to nato and cnn counterterrorism analyst phil mudd. The threats over, phil. You heard it. I heard it. What was the president doing there . I mean hes talking to the American People, but if you look at what his spokesman on this, mike pompeo, has said, weve got a long way to go on this. Look, chris, weve been involved in nonproliferation before. Lets look at saddam hussein. The president gets off the plane after five hours of conversation with kim jongun and whats left on the table . First, are you certain of intent . What is kim jongun thinking . Im not. Second, the more complicated, intricate problem. I want a declaration of every facility where theyve tested, developed, stored a Nuclear Weapon or nuclear material. Right. I want to know every engineer, every scientist. I want to see every document. So the president gets off the plane. Theres no way he can get off the plane having an indication that the north koreans are going to give us a signal within five hours of whether theyre going to comply with the agreement. He said. He said the threats over. Well, he doesnt know what hes talking about. If youre going to do this kind of nonproliferation agreement, youve got to have the detail on all this stuff thats going to take years. Nick, the other side of it is, look, this is what north korea is about. Everybody knows this who knows anything. We expected this. Dont make a big deal out of it. It doesnt mean trump is wrong, that the threat is gone. This is just the process. Do you accept that argument . I really dont. I think i agree with phil. It didnt make any sense for the president to say that theres no longer a Nuclear Threat. Theres been no change to the north Korea Nuclear program. Its still a threat. So, chris, this puts the onus on secretary pompeo. Hes going to make a difficult trip this week to pyongyang. He needs a couple of things. He needs a complete accounting of the entire Nuclear Program of north korea because weve got to know what theyre not reporting. This is a test to see if theyre cheating and lying. And secondly, and john bolton talked about this two days ago, there has to be a specific schedule to dismantle all of north koreas Nuclear Program. Bolton says it should be done in a year. Thats lightning quick in these matters. Mike pompeo told congress 2 1 2 years. Wide gap in the administration on expectations. And the signals theyre sending. And if the north koreans balk on this, were going to have to put a Sanctions Regime back together again. That gets back to President Trumps statement. It didnt make sense to say there was no threat because then china and russia started trading
against with north korea. It made perfect sense because he wanted winning. Then bolton comes out and says we have our eyes wide open. Those are consistent statements but trump usually gets the benefit of hyperbole, which why more and more i believe he is the luckiest man in the history of president s. Lets look at it this way to both of you gentlemen. The chance of success, knowing what we know from the summit, knowing what we know from this intelligence report, phil mudd, what is the chance of success here with getting nukes off the korean plate . Okay. Lets make sure we have our question clear. You say nukes off the plate. My question is do you mean all nukes or some nukes . No. Its got to be all. Okay. The Administration Says it. Everybody says it. Nukes are all or none. You have to have it all off. 10 to 20 at best. Shortterm or longterm . Im talking about longterm that we sit back in three or four years and say this was a tremendous success. 10 to 20 . Im not saying thats a bad
choice. Im saying 10 to 20 . Nick . I think its 5 to 10 . I think the probability of this is quite low. That Singapore Summit was basically a short meeting with a photo opp, remarkably thin on substance, and it just doesnt stand to reason that north korea would give up its Nuclear Weapons for us. Thats its insurance policy. The chinese dont appear to be pushing the north koreans and they have the most influence. Wow. So the president after the Singapore Summit says the threat is over, and phil mudd, you dont even get him over the mendoza line, and nick burns, you say that hes only got a 5 to 10 chance of success. So then what are we looking at here in terms of the optimism, phil . What could come out of this in some type of time frame during this presidency that will be worth it . The Singapore Summit was not the story. The boring part of this, the diplomatic part of this, the part that ambassador burns would have been involved with, is the real story. The questions pompeo has to
answer, the big question, can we really confirm that what we think of denuclearization is the same thing that the north koreans think of . And then you get into the tough pieces. What if they declare ten sites and we say actually we think there are 12 sites that are significant. What if they start stepping back from Nuclear Weapons and destroy some, and in two years we say youve only destroyed 80 of what we think is there . The devil is in the details, and thats not what the president is strong at. This is where mike pompeo really has to earn a paycheck. Also, finally, where he has to talk to the American People if the president tries to snow us. And he needs friends, right . So you need china, maybe even russia, and that tees up heading to helsinki for the putin trump meeting. We of course will be there, and well be talking about all of this a lot more. Nick burns, phil mudd, thank you very much. Thank you. All right. So we follow stories here on Cuomo Prime Time even when theyre out of the headlines because thats part of the mandate of the show. One of the mothers involved in
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largely in part to your show and the pressure the media was able to put on them i finally got to see them, and i got to talk to them oneonone. They left me in a room alone with them, and i was very grateful for the opportunity to speak with them. The kids looked healthy, and i showed mom what they looked like, and mom was even able to say, they look a little fatter, which is good for her. She was very happy. The eldest boy got to go see the statue of liberty. Im very grateful for that. But whats it going to take to shes getting to go to see her kids. Shes not getting her kids back . Unfortunately, reunification tomorrow morning at 9 00 only means that shes going to be allowed to visit with her children. It doesnt mean she gets to walk out why not . Now the kids have entered the foster care system, and now theres a long list of requirements that cayuga and hhs and the office of refugee and
reset elment have put on it. Such as verifying where the children are going the address where theyre going. Whether or not the sponsor has a job to support these children. Whether or not the sponsor is of legal status or a citizen. So shes not going to get a job, she cant get hired right now. Shes not legal in the country and she probably doesnt know where shes going to stay. I know theres been a Volunteer Effort for people to help her. She has a lot of strikes against her. No status, no job. No apartment that is under her name. I dont know if the administration is prepared for this. We dont know. This is a gray area where no one knows whats going to happen. You could get the mother out on bond. You then find out theyre hiking the bond for familyies now you
have over a dozen clients from that one center of moms that are all in the same situation . Right. She had me promise that i would sit down with while i was waiting for her. She asked me to sit down with other mothers in a similar if not worse situation about some of them have not had a day in court, have not been offered a bond. Some have offered twice the bond that yenni paid. She paid 7,500. I dont mean her directly. She doesnt have that money. Moms throughout the country have donated 10, 20. Im in awe of these women and several other people what they come and say, i dont have the money to spare, but i felt obligated to donate to release this mother, because its wrong. And i saw your earlier interviews and how everyone agrees its wrong, fine, now, lets fix it. Were not seeing anything get done yet. Except that Executive Order which isnt worth the paper on my desk. As you get your updates, bring them back. Thank you. In the hours after that deadly shooting on the number down in annapolis. I know everything happened so fast. President trump defended the journalists, remember that . Why did the white house refuse a request to honor them by lowering flags. Does your Business Internet provider promise a lot . Lets see who delivers more. Comcast business gives you gigspeed in more places. The others dont. We offer up to 6 hours of 4g Wireless Network backup. Everyone else, no way. We let calls from any of your devices come from your business number. Them, not so much. We let you keep an eye on your business from anywhere. The others . Nope get internet on our gigspeed network and add voice and tv for 34. 90 more per month. Call or go on line today. Trump declines request to lower flags in memory of Capital Gazette shooting victims. I know everything moves so fast now. Its been four days since the recent Mass Shooting that robbed this world of five lives. Shattered families and added
another layer of shame on all lay makers for not doing something to stop the shootings. So why did this happen . Is there a broet toe kohl that would make it weird to respect the dead journalists . No, the las vegas shooting, the Parkland Shooting . Maybe not enough people . No, its not it either. The announcement of first lady laura bush. And billy graham. Important people, but it wasnt about big numbers of people. Why would the mayor of annapolis say he was turned down with a nobrainer request. Now, im afraid i know the answer. And its because President Trump doesnt like the media. I know that sounds extraordinarily petty and callous, but more facts. Trump is the man who mocked john mccain for being captured during vietnam. In fact, he allowed her to stay
at a job, and still attacks mccain with his thumbs down swipes about the senators vote on an insurance bill. A bill that would have taken insurance from more people. Trump unfortunately is entire when i capable of disrespecting people no matter their predicament. If it suits him or his interests. Look, look at whats happening on the boarder. Kids ripped from their families, still not returned. Despite promises to fix it all. Yes, trump did say he respects journalists after the mass murder, but why would you believe that . Why would you believe hes not lying again. I dont have time to play all the attacks on the media, you know the truth. And now you know even if they get murdered, the president wont respect the media