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Have to worry about the sentencing guidelines. So i hear you on that. Let me bounce this to you, garber, because wheres the there there . There is no case. I get the sentencing guidelines, but we dont even have charges. So what is there to flip on, and what would he have to flip with . Yeah. So heres the problem. Ive represented a lot of folks under investigation, and the problem is before you even get to the sentencing guidelines, theres the investigation. I mean think of Michael Cohen. Think of being him and having your office raided, reading about yourself every day in the newspaper, having...

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>> yeah. you know, it's a tough one, chris. i'm not -- >> really? you don't think it's a no-brainer. >> i don't know what the protocol standard -- well, i certainly would do it. >> right? >> but there might be some pushback as it relates to the military and when the flags get lowered and -- >> no, there's no protocol. they did it after vegas. they did it after parkland. they did it for barbara bush. i'm not criticizing any of these moves, but he could have done it. >> again, i'm not here to apologize for the white house. i certainly would have done it. it just seems like when the stuff goes st...

Because i know time is short tonight. second, why would the white house deny the request to lower the flags for the victims of the "capital gazette" newspaper mass murder? why do that? >> yeah. you know, it's a tough one, chris. i'm not -- >> really? you don't think it's a no-brainer. >> i don't know what the protocol standard -- well, i certainly would do it. >> right? >> but there might be some pushback as it relates to the military and when the flags get lowered and -- >> no, there's no protocol. they did it after vegas. they did it after parkland. they did it for barbara bush. i'm not crit...