Plus reporters deployed to the State Capitol with bulletproof vests. This is gear they needed in iraq and afghanistan. Now they need it in america. Later, the absolutely scorching statement from Rupert Murdochs son and big moves at fox news. But we begin at the end. The end of President Trumps term in office. With three days until president elect bidens inauguration, lets analyze the wars that he will inherit. These are conflicts that are part of trumps legacy. Though, he and his allies claim otherwise. Im proud to say with just a few days left in this administration that this is the First Administration in decades not to get america into a new war. Mr. Vice president , you are wrong. I know what you literally mean about forward engagements and i appreciate you were filling in as president this week trying to show leadership because trump cant, trying to show the world that america is okay. We are not okay. We are not okay at all. We are not at peace. There is a new war, a war at home. Look at washington this morning. There is a red zone and a green zone and a massive military presence. We have just received these incredible aerial images from a cnn drone. You see warriors outside the white house, outside black lives matter plaza. You see troops walking down some of the citys boulevards. The streets otherwise mostly empty closed off to traffic in ways that are really crippling the town for residents of washington, d. C. , to people that want to move around downtown, d. C. You can see preparations for bidens inauguration there at the white house. Amazing images. A city in crisis, a city in lockdown, and this is how the world sees america now. Just listen to how foreign correspondents from other countries are describing d. C. Right now. The threat which still remains is turning this normally calm capitol into a militarized zone. Thousands of National Guard troops found out. Washington is in lockdown. They call this the green zone. Security is being winched tighter now in the u. S. Capitol. It looks like a capitol under siege. It is so jarring to hear that, jarring to see the coverage from around the world. But these are the scars of the trump years. These are signs of the war at home. Now, remember the left wing protests on trumps inauguration. There was a limousine set on fire. Maybe this fire set by left wing radicals was foreshadowing what was to come. In general and especially now, i think we should all be restrained with war metaphors given the unique terror of true combat. But war has kept coming to mind these past four years with the president waging a war on the truth. Lately it seems a war on reality itself. A war with reality, a country at war with ourselves. Look, on january 6th, that riot of lies, some of those rioters pretended like they were at war. They dressed for combat. They fan tatized about a new several war. Thankfully they didnt get it. But thats a big part of the legacy of these years. A war at home. With me now is one of the most accomplished White House Correspondents of alltime, maggy haber man, White House Correspondent for the New York Times and a cnn political analyst. She knows trump like no other. Maggy, thank you for coming on. Thank you for having me. You reported on january 6th the president was watching the riot. He was engrossed in the coverage. Is that what hes doing now his final weekend is just watching tv. We havent heard from him because he has no twitter feed. He didnt want to use any other method of communication to talk. He had pivoted away from using television himself as we talked to people once those coronavirus briefs were calamitous during the year in 2020. But what hes doing is he has not accepted he lost, but he has accepted the fact that he is not going to be president after noon an wednesday. The white house is being packed up. He is ftaking farewell talks to aids. He is still telling people he won. The idea he has accepted the loss, he is not there yet, if he is ever going to get there. I think the question remains, brian, what we have seen him do. He spent most of friday in the oval office in a meeting with the secretary of defense talking in part about what this sendoff would look like on wednesday where hes going to get a 21 gun salute, where theyre talking about a flyover. There will be a military band. Well see if he ends up delivering remarks. That had not been the plan. He wanted a military parade in d. C. What about his media habits throughout the four years. I remember in 2017 people doubted you when you reported that trump watched four plus hours of tv a day. It was shocking when he reported that. Now, of course, it is obviously true and we saw it for years on his twitter feed. We all know the president is a tv addict. I wonder if you thought about then versus now, the start of the Trump Presidency versus the end and how it took a while for folks to realize how unusual he really was as a president. No. I think thats right, brian. I think there were two things. I think it took people a while to realize how different he was and it took people a while to accept the office was not changing him. If anything, he wanted to change the office. And i think he succeeded in many ways. I dont think that some of those changes, if any, are going to be permanent. I think joe biden is showing he will restore the office to some semblance of normalcy of the modern presidency. But, look, there was a lot of doubting about reporting about what he was doing and what he was up to. You had people, you know, discounting it from the political left and then you had trumps allies on the political right trying to undermine it. I think that time has proven that his media habits are just what they are. And if anything, four to five hours was a conservative estimate. The only thing i would mention in terms of his viewing habits, the tv was often just on in the background, brian, whether it was in the residence or whether he was sitting in that dining room off the oval office where he had a huge flat screen tv put in early on. It was background noise and if he heard his name mentioned or some other topic, he would stop talking and pay attention. He would fast forward through the nontrump segments. Trump gave 119 interviews to fox news during his presidency. Put on screen the graphic here. All the other networks had fewer than 10 interviews. And cnn stayed at zero the entire time, which is remarkable given in cnns history every president sat down with cnn. Trump had a president ial snub for cnn in his four years. Now he has no plans for a farewell address, an exit interview. As you mentioned, hes been largely absence from the fpress since election night. I suppose my question is why. Well, i think one thing that we cant ignore, brian, is that hes also the first president going out after being impeached twice because of his role in a rally that of his supporters that happened right before a riot at the capital that left five people dead. So there is that first two. Right. I think his advisers are aware look, part of how the white House Counsel was able to get the president to Say Something to try to stop the rioters as this was happening, which the president insisted on doing on jan 6th was telling him he had legal exposure. If not criminal, he certainly is likely to face, and they think, im basing this on what theyre saying, civil suits. If he goes out and talks more, he is simply adding fuel to the fire. The only time we have heard from him is this prerecorded video. We have seen many videos this president gave under duress and it was clear he didnt want to be doing it in his delivery. This one didnt sound like that where he urged his supporters not to engage in fresh violence next week. That video was heavily scripted by two of the lawyers in the White House Council and his speech writer steven miller. Thats part of why were not hearing him, hearing what he will say off the cuff in an interview. Thats a scary situation, and i suspect well find out these final days are scarier than right now. Trump always made it personal with you, maggy. Can you tell us when the last time you spoke with the president was . I dont talk about that, brian. Im sorry. And i would take issue with the word affection. I think the president looks for affirmation from the New York Times. Affirmation, thats the better word. For a specific reason. And specifically i get under his skin in terms of my coverage. But i think that, look, he is the New York Times holds a unique place in his psyche. I would urge you to listen to the taping of the daily that ag soles burger did or at least that michael bar barrio did around an interview because the president had tried to get ag soels berger to meet with him off the record and he wouldnt. But if you want to understand the role the times plays in trumps mind, its a worthwhile listen. What will you remember . What will you tell your hopefully some day grand kids about this experience covering trump . I need a little distance from it. Do you . What would stand out to me, the lack of sleep would probably be a part of it. I will say this is a very minor point, but just the constant sense of something is about to happen, which he created with the twitter feed. But also because of the firings and the, you know, sort of calamitous policy decisions and the back and forth on things. You know, i think thats i think that what stands out to me is there was just this constant sense of incoming. Yeah. I will probably have something more profound to say down the road. Save it for the book. I know you are working on a book. All week long i heard the media is obsessed with trump, that we cant quit him, that we dont know what were going to do when he leaves office. Do you feel that way a little bit . I certainly think that trump has a point when he says that he has been good for business. I think that is just objectively the case that people sort of consuming more media around him. I dont quite think that its what people who are saying that on fox mean, which is that people are interested i mean, i bristle at that because for the last four years hes been president and hes been president in a way thats very unusual and unusual for the presidency so, yes, that got coverage. But i do think its going to be a test of how the media handles himself Going Forward, particularly absent his twitter feed because those were rationals that people pointed to as to why they were covering him. I did not think that every tweet was newsworthy, but some people did. I do think that its going to present a challenge in terms of how hes covered Going Forward because his ability to just snap his fingers and get attention as president is obviously gone. He is still a dominant figure in the Republican Party regardless of the tensions that exist now after january 6th. He still has a majority of support among republicans, and he is reluctant to close off any avenue where he could run or Something Like that if hes under duress. So i dont know what it looks like. I think that were all addicted thing is a clever construction, but i dont think thats reality. Yeah. I think Going Forward after wednesday he will be a story. But obviously biden will be a much bigger story. Thats where attention now shifts. Correct. And should be, thats right. Thank you so much for helping us understand the trump years. Now, joe biden will take office on wednesday with a huge political disadvantage. Many americans will insist that he is not really president , that he didnt really win or that he stole it from donald trump. Cnns brandnew polling out this morning asked americans if biden legitimately won enough votes to win the presidency. 99 of democrats said yes. But only 19 of republicans said yes, biden legitimately won. That means 75 of republicans say they dont think biden really won legitimately. And of that group, more than half say there is solid evidence of cheating, even though courts and news rooms all looked and looked and found something material. Npr and cbs asked the question differently in their poll, but the results were the same. Only 12 , 12 of trump voters in that poll said they trust the results of the election. This is not a fringe point of view on the right. Disbelief in the Election Results is the mainstream position of trump believers. So what is that . Its a breakdown in trust. A breakdown in social bonds. Thats one of the story lines here. So many americans, especially republicans, said they have little or no faith in the media ond other u. S. Institutions. Shouting about reasons why they shouldnt trust anyone or anything. A breakdown in trust softened the ground for trumps election lies. Thats what january 6th was, a lie yacht of lies. It was also an awakening about far right radicalization, extremism in america. Rioters in d. C. Said they believed trumps lies and some say they felt directed to the capitol by trump. So now the experts who didnt get enough air time or attention before january 6th are getting lots of calls now and talking about the riot as the beginning of something, not the end. So what does the press need to know about covering extremism . What do you need to know . Here with some pointers are the partners of the krebbs stamos group. Fact checking false election claims. And alex stamos is the director of the Stanford University internet observatory and a former facebook insider. Thank you both for coming on and talking us through this. Chris, what are the different ways that you frame this story of extremism in america . Yeah. Thanks for having me on, brian, good morning. And alex, good morning to you over on the other side of the country. Well, you know, when you see last weeks events and we think about what might be happening in State Capitols across the country right now, it is important to realize that were not talking about a single block of activists and insurrectionists. There are factions. And, so, the frame work that i think about with the current challenge is is there is a set of actors or players on the field that are engaging. There is a sense of influencers driving them and seeking their own objectives. There is a series of america nichls using to coordinate and communicate. And, so, through these four different lenses or approaches, you can get a better understanding of really whats happening. So with those actors, there is a spectrum that goes from really intensity of intent, and thats the boog loo boys types, the perception to reset the political system and in moving through white supremacists, white nationalists, militias, conspiracy theorists and ending up in the disaffected voters that unfortunately have bought into the big lie that the president has been selling over the last several months. Right. There is a wide range. And you are saying different people want different outcomes, right . Some just want to feel like theyre being heard. Others do want civil war. There is a wide range. Yep. And then on top of that, there are these influencers, including the president. You know, hes on one hand trying to fundraise and continue the long con and the grift. And then on the other side of this, and this is an uncomfortable reality that were in is that there are still state actors that are fomenting unrest here in the United States. There is the russians, for instance, according to a report out from the u. S. Government earlier in this past week where the russians are trying to confuse who is actually behind it and continue to push that antifa was the group that stormed the capitol. Yet, the iranians who want at all cost it is president of the out white house and then the third that you have the chinese who continue to contrast their style of government against democracy that they see as inherently corrupt and, you know, on an unsound foundation. So we have domestic actors as well as foreign actors. Thats why, again, you have to think about the different players, the different influencers and ultimately what do they want to get out all of this. Right. Alex, what is your answer to how the press should be covering extremism right now . Yeah. Like chris said, there is a couple of different groups here. To me, it is that line of men in Matching Green tactical outfits with their hands on their shoulders snaking their way through the disorganized mob. A large number of people who are angry and believe they have been lied to by the right news about the election and who want to show that anger and they want to feel like theyre part of something. Within that disorganized mob, you have a small number of people who are highly organized and who really want to create violence. So i think one of the things we have to do is we have to be careful to try to separate those out and to not allow that small group of organized people to speak on behalf of everybody. That is one of the problems i think well have around Media Coverage of this, is that the 3 , the proud boys, folks like that that they will be given an out sized influence add their messages will be amplified over and over again because their messages are extremely scary. Those groups need to be treated like isis. There is a history between Law Enforcement and social Media Companies to be able to reduce the influence of those groups. Then we have to work on the broader disinformation problem to turn down the anger that you see from that huge percentage of republicans who believe the election was stolen. Biden denialism is very well and widespread, so is riot denialism. Both are happening. Both are happening from the same platforms. Both are problematic. Chris, what do you say to the following . We have to be clear eyed but also very careful not to exaggerate it, not to overstate or create undue fear in this country right now . I think thats absolutely right. We have to be very careful here. Just because someone may believe that the president did not win the election or the president elect biden did not win or that someone believes in qanon doesnt mean theyre going to go pick up arms and go riot. And this is the challenge that were facing. I dont think that as a society, certainty the Current Administration hasnt done enough to study and understand and consider this challenge, and thats in part what were trying to accomplish at the Aspen Institute with the commission on information disorder that i will be chairing, is look at the different factors from the federal government side, the International Community side, the private sector, Civil Society and academia. What are the roles we can pull over the shortterm and the longterm to restore some sign of normalcy back to the information space. Is that possible, alex . Will there ever be a solution to this information crisis that has been perpetuated in my view like facebook as well as twitter and others . It is really hard because whats happening is people are able to seek out the information that makes them feel good. That is whats happening. People have so much choice now. They can choose what their news sources are. They can choose what influencers they want to follow and they can try to seal out anything that helps them question that. I think that gets to a really core issue with how our freedoms as americans in the way we have treated press freedom in the past is being abused by these actors in that we have given a lot of leeway both in the traditional media and on social media to people to have a very broad range of political views. It is now in the great economic interest of those individuals to become more and more radical. One of the places you can see this is on the fact that you now have competitors to fox news on their right, which are carried by all the Major Cable Networks who are trying to outflank fox on the right because the moment fox introduced any kind of realism into their reporting, immediately a bunch of people chose to put themselves into a sealed ecosystem. They can do that both on cable. They can do it online. That becomes a huge challenge in figuring out how do you bring people back into the mainstream and try to get us back into the same consensual reality. And is that possible . Its hard. I think we got to do a couple things. There needs to be an intentional work by the social Media Companies collaborating together in the same way they worked on isis. When i started on facebook in 2019, the number one challenge from a content perspective was the abuse of social media by the islamic state. There was a collaboration between the Tech Companies and Law Enforcement to make it impossible for them to use the internet to recruit and radicalize mostly young muslim and at the same around the world. Now were talking about domestic audience in the United States. The challenge is going to be partially that isis did not have a domestic constituency in the United States congress, but there is over half of the republicans in congress voted to overturn the election. And there will be a continual political pressure on the companies to not take it seriously. First you have to focus on the violent extremists. And, second, we have to turn down the influencers to reach these huge audiences. There are people on youtube, for example, that have a larger audience than daytime cnn, and they are extremely radical and pushing extremely radical views. And, so, it is up to the facebooks and youtubes in particular to think about whether or not they want to be effectively Cable Networks for disinformation. And then we have to figure out the oann and newsmax problem that these companies have freedom of speech but im not sure we need them to be brought into tens of millions of homes. This is allowing people to seek out information if they want to but not pushing it into their faces is really where were going to have to go here. Alex and chris, thank you both for looking ahead with us. Thank you. Coming up, you saw during the insurrection on january 6th members of the press became moving targets. I will tell you about new security measures to keep reporters protected. Plus, breaking news about the bidens first press briefing. Plus, why Kamala Harris is front and center in the News Coverage about a new white house. Ir educ. With flexpath from capella university, you can complete your rntobsn program in 9 months and under 10,000. Capella university. Dont just learn, learn smarter. Want to make a name for yourself in gaming . Capella university. Then make a name for yourself. Even if your office, and bank balance are. Far from glamorous. That means expensing nothing but pizza. Your expenses look good, and your books are set for the month . Going up against this guy. And pitching your idea 100 times. No, no, no no. I like it. He likes it . And you definitely love that. Intuit quickbooks helps Small Businesses be more successful with payments, payroll, banking and live bookkeeping. Lets get checked for ourselves. Lets get checked for those around us. Lets get checked for a full range of conditions. Introducing letsgetchecked a Health Testing you do at home. Lets get round the clock support from a team of nurses. Lets get fast, accurate results. Know your health. Know yourself. Order now at letsgetchecked dot com. And they found themselves in a magical land. And then what happened . Wheres our family from . Was he my age . So nana and pops eloped . And then what happened, daddy . Well, before us, there were your great, great, great grandparents. Turn questions youve always had into stories you cant wait to share; with ancestry. Welcome back to reliable sources. Im brian setter. Nine members of the media were assaulted on january 6th and others were threatened and harassed. Now we are seeing news organizations take unprecedented steps to protect their crews in the field, from bulletproof vests to buddy systems. This is happening at national and local outlets. All steps up security measures. Im hearing about it every day. Two leaders join me now to discuss these new measures. Nicole carol and dan shelly, a nonprofit that just unveiled a Training Center with resources for reporters uncovering this unrest. Nicole, first to you, what are you doing to take care of your crews, your reporters in the field . I know we dont get too detailed about security. But in some cases armed body guards, other steps. What are you doing . Thanks, brian. We take this threat very seriously. Last week during the riots, they scrawled murder the media in the capitol. There had been calls for extremists to target journalists. So we take the threat seriously and we take the protection seriously. We consulted with professional security to make sure we have the right equipment and communication. We have done quite a bit of training with our teams, talking about the buddy system. You are constantly in touch with us. You are constantly in touch with your partner. So were taking it seriously, but were not going to stop doing our jobs. This is risky to go out, but it is more risky to not go out. It is more risky to let disinformation spread. Dan, what are you hearing from location stations . Im hearing news crews not doing live shots in the field. Instead, theyre doing taped segments. Im hearing about taking the logos off the micro foes, off of news trucks. All of those steps to make things safer. What are you hearing . Im hearing many of the same things, brian. I would also add to what nick code said, this is the most perilous time for journalists in the field in the modern history of the United States. I know thats saying a lot, but thats the reason behind the Safety Resources we Just Launched in partnership with our other press freedom groups that we worked with. This is really pervasive and its not just the u. S. Capitol. It is not just State Capitols. It is in communities large and small in all 50 states. Tell us where people can find those resources, dan. It is rtdna. Org. And i think the big picture point is journalists arent going to back down. This is about trying to do jobs as safely as possible but making sure we witness whats happening, especially these State Capitols where there is witness about attacks and violence. Exactly. We have folks all across washington, d. C. Of course. The threats have been made to capitols across the country. So were in more than 40 State Capitols right now. Again, were there to do our jobs. Were there to tell the truth. I saw your intro about the war on reality is great. It is true. Were the ones who present reality. Were the ones who tell reality. Thats making us a target, but it also shows why your jobs are more important than ever. What was it like this week, nicole creating a front page that said impeached again, you know, second impeachment . It feels like were living years of history every week right now. Its true. You know, we thought, you know, with 2020 behind us things might slow down. Thats not the case. We are living history. For us, we recognize the seriousness of it and were constantly working on the exact words. Were working on how we present this because we want to make sure because these are very grave actions and we need to represent the seriousness of them. Thats a great point. The big picture is local news plays a key role in helping people gain and regain trust. If you dont believe cnn when we say biden was elected maybe you will believe your local news anchor or your local paper. And Public Opinion has said that for some time, that its kind of like the old analogy, everybody says they hate congress but they love their own member of congress. That may not be as true today as it was once. People say they hate the media in the aggregate, but they sure like john smith that gives them the local news at 6 00 on channel 2. So there is a difference between perceptions of local media versus national media. And i think its up to the local media to take on this burden of special responsibility because the people who report, the photo journalists in local communities, theyre the neighbors of the people that theyre reporting for. Theyre serving the public. Theyre serving their neighbors. Theyre dealing with the same local issues that the people on whom and for whom theyre reporting deal with. I think thats an important distinction to make. This sounds trite, but journalists are people, too, and journalists are there to serve the communities in which they live. Trite, but i like it. Dan, thank you. Nicole, thank you very much. We will have more on this subject. We have a story coming out about safety and security. You can get it in the reliable sources newsletter. Sign up for free at reliablesources. Com. Trump leaving the white house. Fox news losing its grip. 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The network finds itself falling behind cn initial and nbc in Overall Television viewer ship. Really remarkable changes in the ratings. Look at this graphic that tells the story. This is the year to date. Fox is the red line. And normally that red line would be high at the top. Cnn is now number one in the viewer race. Its going on 9, 10 days now. Msnbc also surging but not to the same degree as cnn. What does this mean . What does it say . I think its a signal that people are looking for real lose about terror and abilout the pa dem ocratic right now. There are a lot of factors here. It is also fox feeling pressure from newsmax, pressure from the right like you see there. News max saying that fox is on the run. Rupert murdoch is reasserting himself at fox and that in part explains why the schedule at fox is blowing upstarting tomorrow 7 00 p. M. Anchor Martha Mccallum has been demoted to the 3 00 p. M. Hour. She was holding one of the other hours of News Coverage in a prominent position at fox news. Her News Coverage leaned dramatically to the right, but it still counted as news according to fox news. Now that program is losing its 7 00 p. M. Time slot. Lets talk about this, the cable news landscape and more with a panel of experts. Nicole is here, the author of messengers of the right. David is here and Eugene Daniels is here, White House Reporter and coauthor of play book. Nicole, what do you think of this change. Others hosting the 7 00 p. M. Hour from now on. I think it is a pretty clear sign that fox news sees newsmax as its big problem right now. Their 7 00 p. M. Hour has been drawing a lot of viewers. So they want to do is compete more in that opinion space. I suspect what we will see Going Forward is less of the kind of Chris Wallace fox news and more of that opinion hour and more of a newsmax turn for fox. Yeah. Thats what the tea leaves sure indicate. Lets look at your recent story for npr titled after the deadly capitol riot fox news stayed silent on its stars incendiary riot. What do you mean . You have seen a discussion first out in Corporate Board rooms pulling back on donations from politicians who wanted to invalidate the election in november. You have seen that with the Republican Party. You have seen it on social media platforms that yanked accounts from people pop pull gaiting the big lie about the election and that helped to foster the circumstances of the protests that turned so deadly january 6th. Where you havent seen it fox news and particularly through the guests it selects as amplified and promoted to both claim that this election was fraudulently stolen from President Trump and his supporters and also urge them with a battle cry rhetoric talk of betrayal that helped to incite the kinds of emotions we saw swirl and coaless in the capitol on wednesday. You havent seen that acknowledged on fox news at all. James murdoch is the son of rue pert. He had a message i think for his dad. He said those outlets that unleashed insidious and Uncontrollable Forces that will be with us for years. I hope those people now understand and that they stop. You wrote a book about the murdochs, david. This is a message from son to father. I think from son to father. I think from brother to brother. And fox news itself to a significant degree. And they havent really created parameters or guide rails of whats acceptable too often. They havent done it in this moment of National Crisis and this moment of crisis for fox news. Does the word news deserve to be appended . And james is also offering in some ways to the public a view of what a murdoch future could look like. It is not clear the hunger games are entirely done for what happens when murdoch relinquishes control. And while murdoch is the presumed heir apparent, he has the same number of votes and it will be a little bit of an open question. And fox newss name makes less and less sense the more they diminish the News Coverage at the network. Talk about the appetite for real News Coverage. That explains the high ratings for cnn, huge web traffic all across the board. You will be running the new politico play book. How are you thinking about the american appetite for news. What do people want right now from political reporters . It is going to be a completely different play book. People want a more wholistic look at what is going on in washington, d. C. And therefore what is going on in the country the way were looking at it is they want to hear from different people. They want to not just hear from the People Holding the power but from the people that are trying to get power. And that power struggle and that friction is going to dictate how these next four years for joe bidened and Kamala Harris go because that will be so important as we watch and see whats happening. Thats going on on the left and the right. 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Were not being called the enemy of the people by anyone who works for president elect joe biden or Vice President elect Kamala Harris. One thing im thinking about, were going to have to be more creative in covering this white house. You mean were not going to have a live twitter feed of what hes thinking about in all hours . Absolutely. Hes not going to be tweeting and firing people from that. Were going to have to be more creative. Even now, asking questions, theyre running a tighter ship than the Trump Administration to say the least. David, what are you anticipating from jen psaki and the other staff . Well put on screen some of the faces that viewers will come to see in the coming weeks. Is this going to be a reset . I think its the effort to be a reset. I dont think it magically makes disappear whats happened over the last four or five years in terms of the way the white house dealt with the press. I think biden is known in the senate as sort of gaffomatic. This campaign and his campaign was quite disciplined as well, professional, competent. They were able to get their message across and yet not have too many distractions. I think theyre going to have to show through a lot of efforts like the visitor log reinstallation, interested in transparency for the greater good even if its uncomfortable for them because it will invite greater scrutiny. Yes, it will. Nicole, last word from you . The Biden Administration is going to have to do more than a return to normal. Theyll have to rebuild norms. The press has a way of turning the Briefing Room into a place of information from the public. Thats right. Its going to take a long time. But at least enemy of the people wont be a constant attack line. At least this hate movement wont be coming from the white house. Eugene, david, nicole, thank you. As i mentioned, well see a lot of joe biden and Vice PresidentKamala Harris. Tonight abby phillip has this special report at 10 00 p. M. 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All that bubbled up when sara sidners rage turned to tears on live tv. She was there covering the crisis in the hospitals in california. Now shes in michigan covering extremism, another american infliction. Sarah, how do you juggle these american crises simultaneously . Reporter you do it because this is the work we do. These are stories, american stories, important to all the citizens in this country including those who have extreme views. We need to be able to hear from the American People no matter which side of the aisle theyre on or what their beliefs are. I think its important that the entire country know whats going on in this country, not just in their bubbles, brian. That is absolutely true. We have to tell their stories and let people know whats actually happening in the country. These are not, in some cases, fringe views even though were dealing with big lies that are dealing with violence in some cases. How do you handle the emotions of it all . Clearly i didnt feel i handled it well when it came to coronavirus. I want to give you an example. This gentleman here right behind me, hes being interviewed right now by another network. You see him there, standing there with an ar15. He is a member or was a member of the National Guard and he says hes libertarian but says hes a boogaloo boy. He says i am here because i feel like theyre putting laws in place that are against the constitution. I want to stand here and protest that. He says hes peaceful. We also know the boogaloo boy, some have been quite violent and with violent rhetoric. Hes an american and has an opinion. Sometimes we need to listen to what people are saying, brian. Absolutely. Sarah, thank you very much. To hear more from sidder in turn to reliable sources podcast wherever you listen to your podcasts. 72 hours until the end of the Trump Presidency. The truth finally cat up to donald trump after years of giving chase. The lies were finally too much. The past four years have proved that the American Press is stronger than any demagogue. The past four years have also proved how many people can be swayed by a man calling real news fake over and over again. Shared reality. Its gone. Can it be restored . Can it will rebuilt . Those are the questions wie wil start to ask this time next year. Thanks for joining us. A new chapter, joe bidens presidency set to begin behind a wall and thousands of troops with maga terror chatter. Off the charts. Im not afraid taking the oath outside. How safe will inauguration be . Incoming white house chief of staff ron klain is here exclusively