Transcripts For CNNW State Of The Union With Jake Tapper 20180715

I dont think ill have any gee, i did it. Diplomatic disruption. Stirs up trouble in britain. Muscles more money out of nato partners. Do you think nato is happy about that . I dont think so. The stakes for this rose on friday after the special councils investigation chose 12 Russian Military Intelligence Officers with interfering in the president ial election. In a brand flu interview President Trump set a low bar for success saying he has low expectations. It doesnt mean they have bad. I doesnt mean anything. The president of the European Union said america and the eu says whoever is spreading fake news. Air force one is headed here. We dont know if the president will be meeting alone with putinor if hell have aids and others in with him. We know the president wants to talk about syria of course. Will the president confront putin . There are no signs he will confront putin. We have not seenfully indication of that. It is embarrassing them in some degrees. It is what he said will be the easiest meeting of all. The only reason it could be true is if he decides not to confront the president on election meddling. The agenda shockingly less than 24 hours before the summit is not finalized or certainly set in ink. All right. Thanks so much. I would like to note that we invited the white house to join us this morning to offer their perspective on this historic summit. The white house confirmed we would be able to interview. We arraigned our show and scheduled and our crews and trucks accordingly. The white house cancelled the interview for bad behavior. Cnn is fake news. I dont take questions from cnn. Lets go to a real network. We are a real network, too, sir. We are told that bolton was prepared to do the interview and we invite him to do the interview at any time. I want to bring in mark warner ton Senate Intelligence committee. Thanks so much. I want to play for you what President Trump said this morning. Im not afraid to come on cnn. Even if the white house doesnt want to send someone im happy to be on your show. They had bad defenses. I heard they were trying to hack it too. They had much stronger defenses. Looking at efrlg we know shouldnt president obama have done much more . Jake, our committee will lay out what the Obama Administration and the fbi should have done or shouldnt have done shortly. The basic facts remain. The reason why we have difficult relations with russia is not because of the Mueller Probe but because russia intervened in our elections. They hacked into the Democratic National committee, hacked into Hillary Clintons team. They interfered in the electoral systems. They use social media. This is a full on assault on our democratic system. Matter of fact as the Intelligence Committee made they did it with the intent of helping trump and hurting clinton. Thats the reason why we have difficult relations with russia. I am stunned that this president will not call out putin or russias bad behavior. You didnt answer my question which is president obama did not do enough to stop this while it was going on in 2016. I think it seems obvious to anybody reading the indictments or reading the newspaper for the last two years. Do you disagree . I think that the fbi could have done more. Matter of fact when the october 7th letter came out with the Obama Administration did point out the threat of russian interference. Strangly enough it was the same day the emails were hacked and we laesed. It was the same day of the so called Bush Hollywood tapes. President trump was asked this morning if he would consider pushing for the extradition of these 12 Russian Military officials accused of interfering in the election. Take a listen to his response. I hadnt asked for that. They were doing whatever it was during the Obama Administration. So he says he hadnt thought about requesting the extradition of these 12 officials. What do you want President Trump to do when he meets in the building behind me tomorrow . I dont think putinwill probably deliver those 12 russian spies. I sure think the president of the United States ought to ask that these russian spies are actually released to the american Legal Process to continue. They attacked our government. It is to put it around the russian interventions. Do you have hesitation criticizing President Trump while he is overseas that politics should stop at the waters edge . Listen. I am saying to mr. Trump lets make sure we put more people in that meeting with putin, a trained agent. We need to make sure that the americans and for that matter the world gets a straight story of what happens in that meeting. Lets also examine the fact that this is a president throughout the last week who is basically treated our allies like adversaries that were totally inappropriate and continue to street our adversaries, try to act like they are friends. I dont believe its in the best interest of making america safer. . You raised President Trumps behavior at the summit. They said that President Trump has had success in pushing u. S. Allies to spend more on defense which has long been a charge of u. S. President s. Take listen to this exchange. The thing is that your message is having an impact. Thats u. N. Secretary general crediting President Trump with getting u. S. Allies to chip in more. Isnt it fair to say his strategy is working . Well, jake, clearly i think other nato countries should chip in more. It has been a goal of american through democratic and republican administrations for decades. At the end of the day well see if that actually happens. This president has a tendency to make bold statements after meetings. There may or may not be results afterwards. Lets go back to the president s photo op opportunity. After that he said he remembered that americans could sleep soundly because north korea is no longer a nuclear threat. We see it is not true in terms of our own assessments that north korea has done virtually nothing to denuclearize. The proof will be in the pudding. Lets see if the European Countries actually step up and spend more. I would be very pleasantly surprised if it proves to be the case. All right. The top democrat, thanks for your time, as always. And even after fridays indictments rand paul says he thinks theres no need for a special council. Well talk about that next. Your society was led by a woman, who governed thousands. Commanded armies. Yielded to no one. When i found you in my dna, i learned where my strength comes from. My name is courtney mckinney, and this is my ancestrydna story. Now with 2 times more geographic detail than other dna tests. Order your kit at ancestrydna. Com. The Digital Divide is splitting this country. 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It sounds as though you are saying that the United States has done the equivalent of what the russians did in the 2016 election. It is that youre offering that statement as an excuse for what the russians did. No. What i would say is its not morally equivalent. I think in their mind it is. It is important to know the way taper soo they perceive things. One of the reasons they didnt like Hillary Clinton is they found her responsible for some of the activity in the elections under the Obama Administration. So is United States is never done . The United States has never done what russia did . Im not saying yeah, im not saying that are equivalent or morally equivalent but im saying this is the way the russians respond. If you want to have better reactions you have to know their response. In a new interview President Trump said he hadnt thought of asking putin to expedite the officers. Do you think President Trump should ask for the extradition when they meet tomorrow . He is not going to admit that he did it. We cant take on face value anything they tell us. We have to assume and if we have proof that they did it we should spend our time producting ourselves everyone stead of having this witch hunt on the president. No evidence of the president s involvement at all on this. I think we should protect our elections from foreign countries. You called it a witch hunt. If it before not for mueller the American People would not know about the Intelligence Officers stealing voter information, releasing stolen information to influence the election. Isnt it a good thing this probe has continued . I think the muelle investigation is exactly what happened. I do think they already investigated the russians. You voted against it. There is consensus nato served in stabilizing europe which has prevented the United States to need to take military action and to check russian aggression. Russia has continued in georgia. Do you support nato . I think its short of chicken and the egg. They also said they want an open door policy in nato to admit any. I think it is very full to say well defend any country in the world and we are inviting any country that meets the requirements to come into nato. It is a recipe for disaster. Nato has had historic achievement and been part of what was deterrence to russia. The interesting thing now is that European Forces are bigger than russian forces. So right now theres an a digs advantage to the west. Im not saying we disband it but i dont think we should have an open door policy. I think people would be surprised to hear them describe russia versus nato in terms of confrontation and expansion as a chicken or egg proposition given that nato allows them to remain sovereign and takes over those chris. I dont think its chicken or the egg. What i would say is there were people, probably the greatest diplomat over the last country was george. He did predict that you would incite militaristic tendencies in russia. Im not justifying in ukraine or georgia. Im not saying they are equivalent. Im saying that the provocation after we promised when germany unified we would not go. The west would not go 1 inch beyond germany. A couple of years later we kept pushing and pushing and pushing. For every action we put out there there is a reaction. I think we need to think this through. It is not justifying behavior and it is realizing from russias perspective they see nato expansion as a threat and part of their nationalism may be inherent to the tides of the current century there. It is also in reaction to policy from the west as well. Thank you for your time as always, good to see you. Thank you. How is the russian president approaching tomorrows sum nit and whats it like to be face to face . Well talk to someone that has been there next. Stay with us. When i touch you like this and i hold you like that. 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He is declaring victory to get the summit to begin with . Absolutely. This is a huge change in american policy towards russia where apparently huge change over the last four or five years. He is getting the meeting with no agenda, no clear items that the american president is going in with and he gets to demonstrate to russia he has reestablished the bipolar world he has been promising. And President Trump seems to be imbif lent. Here is what he had to say. Take a listen. The fact that this meeting is still happening three days after a sweeting indictment of 12 russian Intelligence Officers who laid an indictment that laid out in great detail the way the russian government meddled in our election, you know, president obama cancelled a meeting with president putin after putin invaded ukraine which most dont care about. This meeting is happening for no clear reason. He is right now watching the world cup and watching his triumph kind of come together and it will go from one victory to the next. Trump having kind of beaten nato up all week, coming and meeting with him as equals with no note takers, no advisers. It already hands putin a win. There is no winwin scenario that exists in putins mind. And just moments ago President Trump put out a series of tweets. Journalists in russia is a way of ending up either in jail or dead. What do you make of President Trump calling it the right before a summit with putin . I think this is very much what he thinks. I think it reflects one of the reasons he is so eager to have this meeting. It is basically his affinity is insere. He is the guy who is most like him. They think alike. I think they will have a wonderful time and thats what im afraid of. They will sort of both glowing. Trump talking about what great friends they are, whether a wonderful understanding they have and that especially in stark contrast to what we have been witnessing over the last few days in regards to nato and americas allies. It is really a frightening prospect. I want to show pictures here of Putin Meeting here. Putin brought his dog to the meeting. She is obviously very uncomfortable if not scared. Do you think putin will put something to exert his dominance in his meeting with President Trump . I think putin is too smart for that. He knows how to work people. He was a pro going into it. I think he knows with our president what works is flattery. The same way donald trump said he wants johnson to be the minister of the united kingdom, thats what works with him. I think trump is going to come out of there feeling lovely and glowing that this very tough guy, the president of the other Major Nuclear power has showered him with praises, called him a genius. I think it will go a long way with trump. And whats your biggest concern . What might President Trump give away in your view in a summit like this with president putin that could cause problems for the world . First of all my biggest concern is that we have two leaders who are going to come out an tell us in the meeting. Putin wants to sort of negotiate in post world war ii world in which both have influence. I think it makes a sense to donald trump. All right. Thanks. Appreciate it. More tough talk as he jets to meet with putin. He is calling the European Union a foe. St stay with us. You wouldnt think of the European Union. Russia is a foe in certain respects. It doesnt mean they are bad. It doesnt mean anything. Cbs compare tg European Union i want to start with you. The president of the European Union tweeted in response to the president saying the eu are best friends. We are there a very strange world. So i think that its not surprising but it you know, in the play hamilton gives them you know, i talk less and smile more. What do you make of this . What are you hearing from european allies that are already concerned about President Trumps undermining of nato and embrace putin and russia. Thats right. Many people in washington were thinking that this week the idea that the president of the United States would come to europe and spend his time attacking americas allies while going onto have a friendly summit with someone who is an adversary. Its very interesting. It is sort of like this chief of the president. A few weeks ago during the g7 when trump was also attacking. I caught my eye with President Trump talking about his trip called the news media. Much is the enemy of the people. Mr. Kirby, on the eve of a summit who thinks his news media or the enemy of his people is alleged to respond by having many of them murdered, what does a Statement Like that do . We would normally get so immune so this. One more indication of how he is talking and making it very very comfortable for putin tomorrow. Yeah. I think if you look at what the president said you see the excellen comments. Who do you think made positive comments about it . It is people in the philippines. The turkish leadership which has transitioned into a military dictator ship. You look at them and they have characteristics in common. They sidelined political opponents and attacked the press. I think the president is a genius is saying i should have a hand in rubbing t running the government. Thats how i read this. What do you think . I want to change the subject. I just im surprised that the morning of, the day of they have this and spending a lot of time on twitter and playing golf. You know, most president s are real pros. A lot of times saying what do you do if he does this or does that. They do it like this and sort of blow it off. They say i play golf is not lets say its abnormal. What the putinlooking for beyond just the fact of this summit . What does he want from President Trump . Thats a great question. I think the fact of the meeting in some ways as someone put it to me is deliverable. He wanted to be welcomed back into the International Community after his 2014 illegal annexation. There are several other potential issue that is could be on the table whether it is sanctions or that into ukraine, syria is obviously something both sides said they would talk about. Acting in concert with iran and with the syrian government. It is an area of conversation. He wasnt going to do that. It was stunning taking a step back. It hold him and threatens actual consequences for any election interference. If he can be strong on that. It is to undermine the International Organizations that the United States has been such a leader of. And not only is he doing the summit a year ago lets put up the tweet from a year ago. Does it sound like a good idea to you . Putin has always got what he wanted. If the intention and it wasnt just election interference. We have a week that has embarrassed nato and embarrassed theresa may and he is coming saying the easiest meeting is with putin. Coming up, flatter ri, a little workout talk. Free former u. S. President s might have thoughts. Thats coming up next. L chassis just to lower the driving position 10 millimeters . Why forge intake valves out of titanium, simply to make them a few grams lighter . Why make Paddle Shifters out of magnesium when aluminum would suffice . Because when youre crafting performance. No measure is too extreme. The lexus lc and lc hybrid experience amazing at your lexus dealer. Hawaii is in the middle of the pacific ocean. Were the most isolated population on the planet. Hawaii is the first state in the u. S. To have 100 Renewable Energy goal. Were a very small electric utility. 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As President Trump prepares or doesnt to meet the russian leader he should remember that others have been there before him with very mixed success. President s clinton, george w. Bush and obama tried kicking things off. A man deeply committed with his country. The extraordinary work you have done. President george w. Bush looked a man in the eye. They both try today soften the russian leader by attempting to find common interest. I would like to congratulate putin for being the only that caught a fish today. The relationship between u. S. Leaders has been warm in the past. Now for the first time i can tell you that youre a disaster. Still, american president s have taken note of the former kgb agents some what unique. He says would you like to meet my dog and out comes a giant hound and he says bigger, stronger and faster than barnie. And with some putin officials it has laeead to some awkward diplomacy. We worked hard to get the right russian word. You got it wrong. Okay. 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