That is textbook abuse of power. But will the American People agree . Democratic caucus chairman Hakeem Jeffries joins me next. Plus, united front. Every 2020 democrat now backs the impeachment inquiry. But just months before the voice are cast, how will the uproar in idential campaign. The president ial candidate cory booker joins me in moments. Hello im jake tapper in washington, where the state of our union is in turmoil. The mood in washington is different this morning after a momentous week in american politics. And now congressional leaders on both sides of the aisle are preparing for what could be the most bruising political fight in decades. The possible impeachment of a president. President trump is already in defense mode, railing on twitter about the quote, new and most recent witch hunt, unquote, while Speaker Pelosi is defending her decision to move forward with an impeachment process after more than a year ago after saying such a thing could hurt the party politically. This would this pattern of behavior were to prevail, then its over for the republic. We will have the equivalent of a monarchy. So the times have found us. The house of representatives is already moving forward quickly on the impeachment inquiry. Subpoenas were issued on friday to secretary of state mike pompeo, demanding documents and witnesses related to the ukraine scandal, while the House Intelligence Committee chairman, adam schiff, tells cnn that hearings and more subpoenas could come as soon as this week. Joining me now, a key member of Speaker Pelosis leadership team, House Democratic caucus chair, Hakeem Jeffries of new york. You said this week, quote, its clear as day that donald trump betrayed his oath of office. Does that mean youve already seen enough, even before hearings, even before evidence, to support articles of impeachment . No, but ive seen enough to support an impeachment inquiry that has been launched by Speaker Pelosi with tremendous support within the House Democratic caucus. There are three areas of real concern. President donald trump has been caught redhanded, with his hand in the taxpayer cookie jar, by withholding, without justification, 391 million in aid that had been approved on a bipartisan basis to the ukraine. The president has also been caught redhanded trying to solicit foreign interference in the 2020 election by pressuring a foreign leader to target joe biden, an american citizen, for political gain. Finally, the president has been caught redhanded trying to cover up all of this wrongdoing by moving the rough transcript of the july 25th phone call to a topsecret server that is used for covert operations, such as the attack or effort to try to get osama bin laden. This is serious evidence of wrongdoing. The president has betrayed his oath of office. The president has abused his power in a matter that undermines our National Security and the integrity of our elections. President trumps defending himself by pointing out that ukrainian Prime Minister zelensky said earlier this week that he did not feel pushed to investigate the bidens. Take a listen to mr. Zelensky. Are you sure that we had, i think, good phone call. It was normal, we spoke about many things and so i think and you read it that nobody pushed me. In other words, no pressure. Does that hurt your argument . Not at all. The evidence of wroingdoing is clearly hiding in plain sight in the form of the july 25th rough transcript. Lets take a step back and look at what happened. The United States of america is the strongest country on earth. We are perhaps the only thing standing between Vladimir Putin and russia totally overrunning ukraine. The United States is strong, ukraine is vulnerable. And yet the president , without explanation, without justification, withheld 391 million in aid, that would undermine the safety and the security and the ability of ukraine to defend itself. So when the president of the United States says in a phone call that he wants to see an investigation into a political opponent in the context of aid having been withheld, that is what you call a highpressure tactic. It was an offer that the ukrainian president could not refuse. You said in march that the most important condition for moving forward with an impeachment process would be that, quote, public sentiment around impeachment is bipartisan, unquote. A new poll out this week shows that only 6 of republicans support the impeachment inquiry. You are moving forward with virtually no support from republican voters. And i dont think much support among republican members of congress. This doesnt seem very bipartisan, as of now . Well, in the midst of an inquiry, well see where we get with respect to articles of impeachment at the end of the process. Were going to follow the facts and apply the law, were going to be guided by the constitution and present the facts to the American People. What we do have, we know, is bipartisan support within the United States house of representatives, at least one republican is on record. There are others who, i believe, will support us moving forward, who havent come public yet with their perspective. But its bipartisan within the house of representatives. Even more importantly, there are more than 300 National Security professionals who work for both republican administrations and democratic administrations, who have publicly said, we support the impeachment inquiry. These are troubling allegations. Theres evidence of wrongdoing. The president solicited foreign interference in the 2020 election. You know, sir, that a dozen democrats in your caucus still do not support an impeachment inquiry. The vast majority do, but a dozen dont. And theyre in districts that President Trump won in 2016. I want you to take a listen to one of them, democratic congresswoman, Jeff Van Drew from new jersey yesterday. The odds are very high that its not going to bear any fruit. The odds are very high that this president will continue to be the president. The people of the United States of america are going to have an election now in a year. They can go ahead in the ballot box and impeach if they desire to do so. Thats a democratic congressman, sir. How do you respond to congressman van drew . Well, the house is a separate and coequal branch of government. We dont work for this president or any president. We work for the American People. And we have a constitutional responsibility to serve as a check and balance on outofcontrol executive branch. So we are going to do our duty. And these issues are serious. The security and the National Safety best interest of the American People have been subordinated by a president who then evaluated his own personal political interests. We need to investigate that, get to the bottom of it, and present the information to the American People. Let me ask you, sir. In may, the ukrainian prosecutor general told bloomberg news, quote web quote, we do not have any grounds to any there was any wrongdoing by joe or hunter biden, so these charges that the president keeps pushing have no basis in evidence. But senator harris, Kamala Harris yesterday said that she probably would not be comfortable with the child of her Vice President sitting on the board of a Foreign Company, such as hunter biden was on. Do you agree with her . No. At least three different ukrainian prosecutors have uncovered no wrongdoing with respect to the joe biden situation. Its my understanding that authorities in Great Britain looked into this situation, found no evidence of wrongdoing, no evidence of wrongdoing has emerged here in the United States of america. And, so, ill leave it at that. All right. Thank you so much, Hakeem Jeffries, congressman and chairman of the democratic caucus, appreciate your time this morning. Thank you, jake. Coming up, a handful of republican lawmakers are calling the president s conversation with ukraines president troubling. Could they be the first cracks in the president s support . Ill talk to the president one of the president s biggest defenders in the house of representatives, congressman jim jordan of ohio next. And the impeachment inquiry throws a wrench into the 2020 campaign. Senator cory booker, democrat of new jersey, will join me, coming up. Some great paint. Thats some great paint. Behr ultra, ranked 1 in Customer Satisfaction with interior paints. Great paint, new low price. Starting at 29. 98. 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Joining me now is the Top Republican on the House Oversight committee and one of President Trumps biggest defenders in the house, congressman jim jordan of ohio. Thanks so much for joining us today. You bet. Good to be with you. A number of republicans have expressed concerns, too. Take a listen. This remains deeply troubling and well see where it leads, but the first reaction is troubling. Theres a lot of disturbing allegations. I want to say to the president , this is not okay. It is that conversation is not okay. Thats your fellow ohio republican, mike turner there. The list goes on. Republican senator ben sasse called it very troubling. Republican governors phil scott and Charlie Baker support the impeachment inquiry. Do you have any problem with a u. S. President asking a foreign power to work with his personal attorney and the u. S. Attorney to, quote, look into his political rivals . A couple of things. I dont have any problem with the call. Weve now seen the transcript. The president of ukraine said there was no pressure, he was not pushed. Look, if democrats want to impeach because Rudy Giuliani talked to a couple of ukrainians, good luck with that. I dont think the American People think thats the appropriate course of action. I think they see this for what it is. This is just one of the many unending attacks the democrats have leveled against this president. The democrats just put us through three years of this phony russia collusion investigation, and now on the heels of that, they come right back with this. Weve all seen the transcript. Theres nothing there. So i respectfully disagree with my colleagues who think that there needs to be a further inquiry here. Well, lets talk about the transcript, because in that transcript, President Trump says, this is with the ukrainian president , who desperately needed hundreds of millions of dollars of aid, including military aid, to beat back russian aggression, President Trump says, theres a lot of talk about bidens son, that biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that, thats not accurate, but in any case, so whatever you could do with the attorney general would be great. Biden went around bragging, stop the prosecution, if you could look entitle, that would be great. Again, the description of the matters is inaccurate, but you dont have any problem with the president of the United States leveraging his power to push a foreign leader to investigate a political rival . What i have a problem with is what the democrats are doing. Understand what happened here, jake. You had a bureaucrat who didnt like the president wait, wait, wait, wait. What are you talking about . We know he didnt like the president. We dont know that. The Inspector General says theres arguable political bias. Thats washington speak for this guy didnt like the president. Lets go into that. I have a statement up here. Let me finish my statement. A bureaucrat says that the president did something wrong on a call. This guy wasnt on the call, someone else told him about the call. So the white house actually released the transcript. We see the transcript, theres nothing there. But the democrats say, we dont care. Were going to move towards impeachment. They dont care about the facts, they dont care about the truth. And you know why we know that . Because nancy pelosi did a press conference the day before skpan said she was going to move towards impeachment, the day before she even saw the transcript. That just shows you that these folks are bound and determined to go after this president , no matter what. They put the country through three years of this false trump russia collusion issue, all the way through. And it was Michael Cohen didnt do it, the john dean hearing didnt do it for him, the bob mueller hearing fell apart, the Corey Lewandowski so now they come with this. The latest attack on the president. So theres a lot you said there. Theres a lot of people that would look at whats in the Mueller Report and say, thats not nothing. You watched the mueller hearing. Lets talk about today. Lets talk about today. You just described this individual, this whistleblower, and im really actually surprised, because ive covered whistleblowers when you were on the committee during the obama years, and there was a lot more reverence for whistleblowers during that period from republicans than im hearing today. You said that he was a bureaucrat who hated the president or disliked the president , biased against the president. There is no evidence of that. Let me read from the Inspector Generals report. It says, although the icig, thats the intelligence communitys Inspector Generals political review unveiled some indicia, such evidence did not change my determination that the complaint related to the urgent concern appears credible. So first of all, that could mean that he interned for john mccain 20 years ago. We have no idea what it means. Second of all, he says that in same sentence, that it did not change his determination that could complaint is credible. Thats a trump appointee saying that. Two ninthings you look at. Im on the oversight committee. Two things you look at to determine the credibility of a socalled whistleblower. First, did they have firsthand knowledge . And second, what was their motivation . Was there some kind of bias . This individual has problems on both of those counts. He had no firsthand knowledge, he heard something from someone who may have heard something from someone no, no, his sources were firsthand sources. But he has no firsthand knowledge. And second, he has a political bias. That should tell us something about this guy who came forward with this claim. And now the democrats are saying, because of this whistleblower, were going to impeach the president. I say, look at the transcript, and the transcript gives you no reason to impeach this president , who overturned an election where the people spoke loud and clear. You know as well as i do, that you do not need to have firsthand knowledge to be a whistleblower. Well, you dont now because they changed the form. You used to. Theres no evidence of that. And we looked into this. I know what youre talking about, youre talking about that federalist story. Its not clear that thats accurate. And even so, experts ive seen the form it has never been true it has never been true that you need to have firsthand knowledge to be a whistleblower. But its something thats critical when youre assessing if theyre credible. Thats a major determination. So listen to this. Heres what the complaint says, okay . Quote, this is from the whistleblower. The president used the remainder of the call to advance his personal interests, namely, he sought to pressure the ukrainian leader to take actions to help the president s 2020 reelection bid. Now, the acting director of National Intelligence, joseph maguire, another trump appointee, just like the Inspector General was asked by congress about whether or not the transcript matched up with the complaint. Heres what he had to say. I would say that the whistleblowers complaint is in alignment with what was released yesterday by the president. So the acting director of National Intelligence says that the transcript backs up what the whistleblower says. And we also found out that the white house did, in fact, take the transcript and put it in this secret compartmentalized compartmented computer server to block anybody else from getting it. So those are the two main charges and theyre both true. You know why they put it in the classified server . Because this administration there was a study, jake, right here, done by the senate in 2017, more leaks in the first five months, state security leaks in the first five months of the Trump Administration than any other administration. They should be putting everything in there, with folks around you who are leaking information. We remember the call to the former Prime Minister of australia. Heres what it says. It is a fact that the Trump Administration has been besieged by leaks at a level that far exceeds i recognize you guys dont want the facts coming out. No, no, no, youve got to protect from the leaks. If i was the Trump Administration, i would be putting every communication in this the leaks are of accurate information. The leaks are of accurate information. You dont like the leaks coming out who are you going to believe . The guy who had firsthand knowledge, who was on the call, president zelensky, or the guy weve seen the transcript thats what im saying. The guy who didnt have firsthand knowledge and had a motive against the president. According to the acting director of National Intelligence, the transcript is in alliance with the whistleblower complaint. We all see it, zelensky wants military aid and President Trump wants him to look into the biased. I cant believe that thats okay with you. Zelensky says, he wants to drain the swamp. He says, can you do me a favor, can you find out what happened in the 2016 election . And then he moves on to the bidens. After zelensky says this important sentence. In addition to that investigation, i want to do all investigations in an open and candid way, only then does the president bring up biden. And my guess is, if you ask the American People, when you look at what happened with joe bidens son. What happened with joe bidens son . He got paid 50,000, jake zp . Jyeah. And the ukrainian prosecutor said theres no evidence of wrongdoing. Come on. What . The Vice President s son gets paid 50,000 a month and gets hired by a company in an industry that he has no experience in and thats fine, all you folks in the press, no problem here. Try taking that message to the American People. When they see the Vice President s son getting paid 50,000 a month in a field, in an industry he has no experience in, i kind of want i wonder what hunter biden did in those board meetings. Did he just look at his phone . Check out the sports scores that hes getting paid 50,000. And the company thats paying that money is under investigation, guess what . Daddy comes running to the rescue. The Vice President of the United States thats not what happened sir, sir, thats not what happened. The european union, the Obama Administration you dont think joe the International Monetary fund proclean government activists in ukraine thought that the prosecutor was not prosecuting corruption. So youre saying joe biden didnt tell ukraine to fire that prosecutor . I think he did he did, but the guy was he bragged about it but the guy was not prosecuting anything that was the problem the government of the United States and the west here are the facts youre not saying youre saying, here are the facts, youre not saying did joe biden tell him to fire the prosecutor . Because he wasnt going after corruption he wasnt going after corruption do you understand what im saying . Was that prosecutor looking into briz ma, the company that had hired joe bidens son according to the ukrainians, that investigation was dormant at the time. That investigation was dormant at the time. Did joe bidens son get paid 50,000 a month in a field in an industry that he has no experience in . If you want to push a law saying that the children of president s and Vice President s should not be doing International Business deals, im all for it. But youre setting a standard that is not being met right now. Im just telling you what happened. Joe biden no, youre not. Joe biden called him up and said, fire this prosecutor youre suggesting that biden called for the prosecutor to be fired to protect his son. Thats not what happened. And President Trump says, can you help me figure out what happened in the 2016 election you know what, congressman democrats just put our country through three years of this when there was a false accusation and no evidence of any type of coordination through the Trump Campaign and heres the thing. The president brings that up and he cant do that, but joe biden can do what he wants. I want you to take a listen to Vice President mike pence when he was governor, running for Vice President , saying that as a principle of the United States that foreign governments are not supposed to get involved in american elections. Lets roll that tape. Yall need to know out there, this is basic stuff, foreign donors and certainly foreign governments cannot participate in the american political process. That once was a principle of the United States. But now still is. No, its not. Because the president is calling for ukraine to investigate his rivals. Jake, youre missing the fundamental point. Im not missing anything. The democrats if you want to impeach if this is their argument. Rudy giuliani talked to an ukrainian Rudy Giuliani, the private lawyer of the president , so were going to impeach this president , give me a break. I think the American People are going, really . In light of how in light of what this president has been able to do leading in our country, in light of the economic growth, what hes done with our Supreme Court justices, what hes done with the embassy in jerusalem, a host of things, you really think the American People are going to go, wait a minute, the Rudy Giuliani, the president s private lawyer had a i think you came here and leveled a bunch of accusations and allegations about hunter biden i just said the facts. He got paid 50,000 a month. He was paid by a Foreign Company, yeah. But joe biden was trying to get a prosecutor who was not pursuing corruption fired. Its amazing the gymnastics you guys will go through to defend sir, its facts and i would think somebody who has been accused of things in the last year or two would be more sensitive about throwing out wild allegations i am not throwing out wild allegations. Im throwing out the facts. The prosecutor was not pursuing corruption. Thats why the entire west wanted him fired, including anticorruption activists in ukraine. I dont understand what you dont get about that . I get that im just talking about this specific case. That theres been reporting on. And the facts of that specific case are what he was paid per month, 50,000, like i said, thats more than some of the folks i get the privilege of representing in the Fourth District of ohio get paid in a year. Hes getting 50,000 a month. The Vice President s son. Hep got hired for what the president s daughter, right now, is having all sorts of copy rights granted in foreign countries. That doesnt alarm you . The president s sons come on. Are doing all sorts of business all over the world. That doesnt alarm you . Jake, come on. Whats come on . Either theres a principle that people should not benefit from their connections or there isnt. The previous administrations fbi went after this president. On july 31st they did a crappy job, then, because they didnt even acknowledge there was an investigation until after the election. They spied on two Americans Associated with President Trumps campaign. They put peter strzok in charge of that the guy who said okay. They allowed jim comey to leak documents to get a special counsel. Sir they used a dossier to go get a warrant okay, now were back to the dossier. Im just saying, thats what happened to President Trump. And none of that worked i understand you want to change the subject, but the president was pushing the president of ukraine to investigate a political rival. I cannot believe that that is okay with you. I cant believe its okay with you. If this is a principle its not okay because but he didnt do that. Its in the transcript. Weapon all read it. I read the transcript he says that the bidens need to be investigating. Thats what you guys do. You dont read things in context. The context is that that comes up when zelensky is talking about all investigations, open and candid. Congressman jordan, we appreciate your passion. Thank you so much for being here. New next guest is running to replace President Trump in the white house. Ill talk to senator cory booker about democrats impeachment push months before the first primary votes. Stay with us. I get it all the time. Have you lost weight . Of course i have ever since i started renting from national. Because national lets me lose the wait at the counter. And choose any car in the aisle. And i dont wait when i return, thanks to drop go. At national, i can lose the wait. And keep it off. Looking good, patrick. I know. vo go national. Go like a pro. Should always be working harder. Oney thats why your cash automatically goes into a Money Market Fund when you open a new account. And fidelitys rate is higher than e trades, td ameritrades, even 9 times more than schwabs. 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Welcome back to state of the union. Im jake tapper. Every democrat running for president now supports the impeachment inquiry into President Trump. What is not clear is how that inquiry will affect the democratic field as they try to convince voters they should replace President Trump in the white house. Joining me now, 2020 democratic president ial candidate, senator cory booker, democrat of new jersey. Senator booker, pardon me, youve been calling for impeachment proceedings to begin since late may, saying that the president has obstructed justice, per the Mueller Report, and refused to comply with congressional investigations. For now, however, house Speaker Pelosi suggests that the inquiry needs to focus on ukraine. Given that you thought that the impeachment inquiry should proceed for other reasons, is she wrong . No, shes right, right now. Look, this is a real moment in history and we should look at it not through a political eye, but through a patriotic one. We have a president that is undermining his oath to protect and defend the constitution of the United States. Part of that is essential to that is the checks and balances built into our constitution and our form of government. This president wasnt releasing documents. He wasnt allowing subpoenas, people to testify. So this impeachment proceedings process gives us a tremendous amount more leverage with which to make him comply, because hes not above the law, when he does something wrong or that has the implications that we see right now, he should be investigated. He should be held to account. So senator, the constitution says that a president can be impeached for, quote, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. Can you explain to our viewers what high crimes and misdemeanors the president has committed . Well, clearly, i mean, from the federalist papers to even past impeachments, we see that defined in a broader sense. And for me it comes down to fundamentally, have they betrayed their office . And i think we see a president right now, whats implicated in that transcript, in the whistleblower report, is someone that, frankly, was pursuing their own interest above our National Security interests. And someone who has actually visited ukraine, who sat with their military leaders, who have lost their fellow soldiers in a hot war while theyre being attacked by the russians, who are currently attacking our country, trying to undermine our democracy. We had a bipartisan agreement that we should give resources and aid to a desperate country. And this president seemed to be willing to hold that up in order to pursue his petty political aspirations. And that is absolutely unacceptable. If this is true, that is an impeachable offense. History will look back on what did we do when a president was willing to trash the constitution, act less like the leader of the free world, and more like a dictator or a thug in using American Power to pursue his own personal gain. I want to ask you about Hunter Bidens involvement in ukraine. And let me state again, for the fifth time on this show, the former ukrainian prosecutor journal, urie lutsenko told bloomberg journal, we do not have any grounds to think there was any wrongdoing of hunter biden. That said, do you think its acceptable for the child of a president or Vice President to be sitting on the board of a Foreign Company while their parent is conducting Foreign Policy . Look, i have a lot of beliefs about ethics rules and the need for our government in the United States to go far further in the rules that we have. But the fact that the republicans right now are trying to use this to distract from the president of the United States, and his own actions, is to me incredible. And so, yeah, i have problems with the way things happen. I have problems with congresspeople coming in, withholding their office and walking right out the door and going to work for lobbying firms. There are a lot of things i see in washington that need changing, and i intend to bring a whole new suite of ethics laws to the white house when i get there. But right now, we have a crisis in our country. It has been exposed that the president of the United States on potentially more than one occasion is using his office for his own political gain at the expense of National Security. Urgent National American interests. And this is the thing, you know, we i serve on the Foreign Relations committee, and perhaps its the most Bipartisan Committee i sit on, because when we look at the world and the threats against this country, whether its russian aggression or attempts to undermine our government, you see a lot of bipartisanship there. This is a president that when it comes to Foreign Relations is violating something that we all agree on. Which is that when we look out into the world, weve got to find ways to stand together as americans in defense of our country. This president seems to be violating that, and that is a serious, serious offense that we should be investigating, using an impeachment inquiry. I hear what youre saying, but just to put a button on this, it sounds like youre suggesting that in a booker administration, the child of a president or a Vice President , it would in the be okay for them to be joining foreign boards while the president or Vice President is conducting Foreign Policy, as required by the law. Am i hearing you incorrectly or hearing you correctly . Look, im watching whats going on with the trump family right now and Trump Properties and i just find that deeply offensive to just a any kind of independent sense of whats honorable, ethical, not to mention in consistency with the emoluments clause. I just do not think that children of president s, of Vice President s during an administration should be out there doing that. But this any implications right now, any whatsoever look, joe biden is a statesman. He is truly an honorable man. We may have differences in this campaign, i wouldnt be running if i didnt think i should be president and not him, but i will be standing firmly in defense of joe biden throughout this process, because this is in no way can besmirch his character, his honor, and his Incredible Service to this country over decades. So im offended by the republicans trying to shift the attention in this in what is trumps scandal. This is a trump scandal, and potentially a violation of office. It should in no way affect the Vice President in his pursuit of the nomination. So let me ask you about your campaign. You are right now just under 200,000 short of reaching the fundraising goal that you set in order to stay in the race. The clock runs out in 36 hours. Might this be the secondtolast day of your campaign . Well, it could be, but ill tell you what, what weve seen over the last week has been an avalanche of support. And we have nearly 35,000 donors that have been helping us make this goal. Weve raised 1. 5 million plus. Weve actually already crossed the threshold to make the november debates of 165 unique donors. So the surge and momentum is great, but i still need help. Were still hoping people in these final 36 hours will go to corybooker. Com and help us to not reach this goal, its not a goal, its a real number that we believe is necessary to stay in this race with the trajectory to win this nomination. Im in this to win it. Its not a vanity play. Im not sticking around for ego. I dont think you should be in this primary, this is my value, my lens, im not going to be in this primary unless i have a viable path to victory. We have that right now, but in the fourth quarter, were going to need help and im hoping people will help. 35,000 people about have already done so, but we need some more help in these last 36 hours. And i hope more people will come on to coryboork. Cker. Com and ma donation. 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Are you worried that your support for inquiry, just the process, might end your political career or puts it at risk, at the very least . Its just not about that. For me, i had to make a decision based on the fact that i have been in the National Security world my entire life. Im a former cia officer and pentagon official. And for me, the very basics of this issue turned it for me. We have the president of the free world, you know, the strongest man in the world, calling a junior partner and asking for dirt on an american, on a political opponent. That cant be okay. I dont want a democrat reaching out to china to ask for dirt on a political opponent. That to me just made things very different. Its about a future election, not the past. And its about our oath of office and protecting the institutions that make up this country. So, what i have tried to say very clearly, to my constituents, is that i hope, whether they agree with me or not, that they say that i did this judiciously. I thought about it, i was compelled to do it based on my oath of office and a sense of integrity. David urban, youre a corporate lobbyist and also an adviser to the Trump Campaign. How the Trump Campaign is already attacking congressmen and women who are supporting the inquiry. Does the argument she made not hold water . Listen, i applaud her independence. I disagree with her. But i applaud her independence and she thinks shes doing what she thinks is right. I heard Speaker Pelosi talk about the facts. If the facts were, adam schiff wouldnt have sat on the dais and made up a story. If facts were there, he would have done it. Hakeem jeffries said, i support impeachment because of three reasons. The president withhold cash, he pressured the ukrainian president and theres a coverup. Well, the president didnt withhold cash. Theres testimony and statements out there from republican senators on the Foreign Relations committee saying the president and the committee were very concerned about legitimate corruption in ukraine. Were making sure this president was prowestern. In terms of pressure, whether he was pressured or not, the ukrainian president zelensky said, i didnt feel any pressure. And at the time the conversation took place, he didnt even know the money was being withheld at that time. So there could have been no quid pro quo. And finally, the coverup that these documents were stored on a tssci secure server, this president has been burned twice in the past with leaks of classified information on mexico and australia and sure, theyre stored there. Actually, susan rice has said at the same forum in texas, well, the Obama Administration did likewise. The president released a transcript rice said it about not about politically sensitive matters, but stuff that was actually National Security sensitive. But this is not a unique circumstance. This was being covered up. This was in the normal course of business. And if the democrats are going to hang their hat on though these claims, its completely hollow. What do you think, ayesha . Whats not a unique set of circumstances is that we have a president thats literally obstructing justice at this point in time. If there is nothing to cover up, the question becomes, why does the president keep sending out his talking heads to deliberate this on television as opposed to actually showing all of the receipts for everything that congress has been asking him for for months. So thats what this is about . Thats what this is about . If theres nothing to cover up, the president should say so now we know. Let her talk. The president and the administration should say, hey, we are very concerned about some particular National Security issue, that maybe some things are classified that we shouldnt know all the details, but they should come forward and say, look, we are concerned, we are protecting and defending the American People in this way. I want you to know that ive got it. Here, congress, are the things that you need to understand thats supporting this, but lets all Work Together to do whats right on bhaft of the American People. Lets let bill talk. Do you think do you have any concerns that democrats are getting out over their skis . Youre a trump critic, but also a republican. What do you think . I think theyve made some mistakes and errors of judgment, just what they said. But at the end of the day, the democratic position, as i understand it is, we want to have an impeachment inquiry. We would like to know all the fact asbestos what the president said in different conversations, having released this one transcript, which is pretty damning in my opinion. We want to know what Rudy Giuliani transmitted on behalf of the president. Giuliani has said many times he kept the president fullry briefed. And the Trump Administrations position is, we dont want to know no facts. Is it your position that the investigation should go ahead or not . Congress has oversight. Theyre a coequal branch of government. And youre in favorite of kurt volcker testifying for them and dan coats and Rudy Giuliani . Absolutely. I think there is a legitimate oversight responsibility. What i dont think is that when you have Rashida Tlaib and al green saying, publicly, we dont impeach him, hes going to get reelected. When you have cory booker on here saying, this is a chance for us to get at. And you hear aisha saying, were very unhappy with everybody coming up before the congress and saying, were exerting executive privilege. Thats what this is about . And. No, i want the congresswoman here and her colleagues to have the opportunity to actually sort through the facts and be able to understand them and explain them back to the american public. And rowan, theyre unable to do that, because this administration is blocking, at every juncture, their ability to access the documents that they should be so thats what this impeachment is about . Thats what not about ukraine. Let me bring in the congresswoman. It is true that congresswoman Rashida Tlaib said on her inaugural party, lets impeach the mfer. She didnt use acronyms, but lets impeach him. Congressman al green has been in favor of impeaching President Trump since the beginning. Do those members of your party and do the ones who are especially gleeful about this moment, does that undermine the seriousness with which you and other colleagues of yours want to proceed . Well, listen, i cant speak on behalf of every other member of congress. I know that my district does not want me participating in the kind of vitriol that they see coming out of washington generally, so thats not what im going to personally be doing. I can only tell you why, after many, many months of being extremely judicious about this, i feel this is different. I think that the American People are exhausted by the back and forth, even just the basically conversation that were having here today. People have lost the thread of what is actually going on. I think we need a very clear process that is an impeachment inquiry that sorts out these facts. That we do it calmly, that we do it cleanly, and we do it efficiently. We focus on the facts at hand and we present that calmly and cleanly to the American People. Because i think weve lost that conversation. And people just feel its purely political. If it were purely political, trust me, this was not something that would have been loved in my district. So when adam schiff sits there, congresswoman, and reads something that doesnt economist. I think he was intending it to be a parody. Its not a parody, jake. Hes the chairman. Im not justifying it what about the transcript that actually exists. Why didnt he just read that . This is pathetic. No, whats pathetic is did chairman make mistakes i bet he did it isnt about chairman schiff. Its about the president of the United States. Why didnt he just read the transcript . Do you defend the president s behavior . Im defending the truth, bill. And do you think President Trumps behavior was proper . Do you think President Trumps behavior was proper . Is it proper for adam schiff to read something thats not true. No, he should not have done it. Im willing to say adam schiff should not have done that. But what do you think about the actual transcript . So what did he do thats wrong, bill . He said do me a favor, thats what he did. Its completely illegal. He withheld money he didnt withhold money youre making up your own facts. Yes, he did you know why he withheld money . The reality is this is all lies. And because of the lack of judgment unfortunately the congressman youre not even bright enough to know that its lies, so then offered up this not even transcript, but essentially this summary of a call that then makes the point that he was wrong. And you all are still going to sit around and try to gaslight americans. We only have 15 seconds left. I want to ask the congresswoman you want facts, lets have the facts. Are you concerned about this being what the house of representatives this is what people associate with impeachment hearings, which is why it is up to us to present something that is different, strategic, clear, and efficient and let the facts speak for themselves. Lets hope it is strategic, clear, and efficient and we actually get to the bottom of it all and theres no rush to judgment on anything. Thank you all for being here. Lets appreciate it. What are the next few months going to be like in washington . A look ahead at a historic and tumultuous time. Please stay with us. Whoohoo greattasting ensure. With nine grams of protein and twentyseven vitamins and minerals. Ensure, for strength and energy. I have moderate to severe pnow, theres skyrizi. Things are getting clearer, yeah i feel free to bare my skin yeah thats all me. Nothing and me go hand in hand nothing on my skin thats my new plan. Nothing is everything. 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Now, as we enter what will surely be an even more tumultuous period, congress will perform its duty to consider the merits of the whistleblower complaint and we, as citizens, need to do our duty to listen, to be informed, to consider the evidence, to be worthy of this democracy that we love. Fareed zakaria is next. This is gps the Global Public square. Welcome to all of you in the United States and around the world. Im fareed zakaria. Well begin todays show where this wild week began, with britains Supreme Court finding Boris Johnsons actions unlawful. And with the u. S. House of representatives launching an impeachment inquiry into the actions of President Trump. Impeachment for that . Ill discuss both in an exclusive interview with britains former Prime Minister, david cameron. Then well dig deeper into the other nation at the center of the