Governing part that you herald would go better if he exhibited perhaps a little bit more control. Look, its unconventional to say the least, but i think where we in the media and punditry divert from where your average american is, theyre much less interested in playing armchair psychologist about why the president does what he does or why he thinks what he thinks or who he is mad at or who he is not. Theyre pretty interested in what that tax cut looks like and how it affects their family. I think in that regard it has scored the president some points. For those of you just joining us, we just got a glimgs into President Trumps thinking on a variety of issues hovering over the white house. Top of the president s mind this afternoon. He was asked about it, of course, was the russia investigation. President trump repeatedly insisting there was no collusion, there was no collusion. He called the russia probe a, quote, democracy hoax, but avoided a question about whether he himself would be willing to sit down for an interview with Robert Mueller. Take a listen. I can only say this, there was absolutely no collusion. Everybody knows it. Everybody committee. Ive been in office now for 11 months. For 11 months theyve had this phony cloud over this administration, over our government, and it has hurt our government. It does hurt our government. Its a democracy hoax. Certainly ill see what happens, but when they have no collusion and nobodys found any collusion at any level, it seems unlikely that you even have an interview. With time running out to help the d. R. E. A. M. Ers facing the risk of deportation, those art around 700,000 undocumented immigrants brought to this country illegally through no fault of their own when they were children, President Trump also tried to clear up some confusion that resulted from his 55minute televised meeting with congressional leaders on immigration yesterday. Today the president said he would not sign any deal to help the d. R. E. A. M. Ers if it doesnt include funding for a border wall. Joining me to talk about this and much more is retired fourstar general michael hayden. He served as a director of both the cia and the nsa. General hayden, thanks so much for being here. Thanks, jake. Really appreciate it. Youve served both democratic and republican president s. What do you make of the president s claims that this is all a hoax and this is all just created by democrats . Its not a hoax. Its not all created by democrats. There is now historical record on which we can all agree on which there were contacts between the campaign and agents of the russian federation, there was some cooperation, synchronization of active between the campaign, the russians and wikileaks. Now whether its collusion or criminal, a completely different matter, but there is some there there. And what struck me about the president s comments is he needs he wants, he should be pursuing closure and he doesnt get closure until he talks to bob mueller. And here he made that very ambiguous as to whether or not that would ever happen. And one of the other things is he tried to make it all about collusion, where it seems clear from what we know about the Mueller Investigation in terms of information he has sought and interviews hes conducted is that he is at least looking into whether or not President Trump obstructed justice, either through the statement he helped dictate in which donald trump jr. Was not forthcoming about the real reason for that meeting with the russian lawyer or firing james comey or whether or not he knew that general flynn had lied to the fbi and on and on. Bob mueller is very conscientious. He is very thorough. You can see the increasing concentric circles moving outward in the investigation from criminal collusion, whatever that might mean, to obstruction of justice, perhaps even to other ancillary kinds of activities like the transfer of money and with whom you cooperate or dont cooperate. If you worked for President Trump well, you know what, let me rewrite this question. Do you think president politically can avoid sitting down with Robert Mueller if Robert Mueller insists on sitting down with him . Again, the president im really trying to speak here on behalf of the president s best interests. Right. The president is served by closure. This is a cloud over the administration. Whether or not hes responsible for it is a separate matter. The cloud exists. And the only way to get out from under the cloud is closure that this has been as complete an investigation as possible and i dont see how that happens if bob mueller wants to talk to the president and the president doesnt talk to bob mueller. Today, President Trump tweeted that, quote, republicans should finally take control, unquote, of the russia probes. He refused to answer a question shouted to him at the pool spray about what that meant. Right. We already have republicans in the House Intelligence Committee and in the Senate Judiciary committee accused of doing too much to protect the president. Things seem to be working out in the senate Intelligence Committee as of now. Then there is the mueller probe. How do you interpret that, republicans should finally take control . There are kind of multiple tracks here. Youve got the one going on on the house, which i think was fatally compromised last summer with all the activity that took place with regard to unmasking. The senate cooperation seems to have been more bipartisan. Its got longer legs, it has lasted longer but now were beginning to see that fracture as well. And youve got bob muellers criminal investigation over here. Thats going to go to the end. I know director mueller, i know how he works. You have a lot of respect for him. I do. I worked fwith him for many yeas within government. Thats going to go to this point. I think, jake, thats going to be insufficient. I think the American Public deserves more than just a legal resolution as to what went on here. There needs to be a political resolution. There is a difference between that which is illegal and that which is clearly inappropriate. And that second category is the kind of thing that could be developed at the political level by the second Political Branch of government, the congress, and i fear with the events, particularly in the last 48 hours, were not going to get that. Yesterday we learned that the british spy Christopher Steele, who worked on that trump russia dossier on behalf of this Opposition Research group being funded by democrats. Steele went to the fbi in july of 2016, not at the behest of this Opposition Research group or the democrats but because the research he was doing about any possible ties or compromising of trump or the campaign by the russians so alarmed him he went to the fbi. Heres is a quote from Glenn Simpson, the head of fusion gps, which is the Opposition Research firm. Chris said he was very concerned about whether this represented a National Security threat. He thought from his perspective there was an issue, a security issue about whether a president ial candidate was being blackmailed. Whats your reaction to that . So weve got a couple of examples now of genuine friends of the United States, members of the five is alliance, an australian ambassador and a retiree from britains mi6 having concerns about the wellbeing of americas democracy. They followed their conscience and made their concerns known to the appropriate organs of the United States government. Thats about as far away from a political motivation as you can get. Thats the instigation of what were seeing now. Now, has it been politicized since then . Oh, my god, yes. But the origin of it come from genuine friends being genuinely concerned. And did you ever you were at the nsa, did you ever work with Christopher Steele . No, i never have. Do you know his work at all . I have talked to friends in mi6 and ive been told he was a solid officer for britains intelligence services. So Dianne Feinstein, the top democrat on the Senate Judiciary committee, she unilaterally released this transcript and she saided to that she regretted not informing grassery that she was going to do it, the republican chairman. And President Trump tweeted, quote, the fact that sneaky Dianne Feinstein, who has on numerous occasions stated that collusion between trump russia has not been found would release testimony in such an underhanded and possibly illegal way is a total disgrace. Must have tough primary. It is true, she is facing a primary challenge from the left, but i dont know that her release of this at all was in violation of the law. Look, im not a lawyer, but my instincts are not in any way. Frankly, jake, what she did was a counterpunch to what two republicans on the committee had done with regard to the referral to the fbi about steele and potential criminal activity. I think her releasing the document was unfortunate in the sense that she was forced to release it unilaterally. It would have been far better if the committee had just made it public, as the testifier requested be done, because he was being accused in the press and by other parts of the american political process of at least untoward behavior. He wanted it out there. He did. Requested so in a New York Times oped. Last question, sir. I know this is an issue you care a lot about. Ben cardin put out a scathing report today that accuses President Trump and the Trump Administration of negligence when it comes to making sure there is not future election interference in 2018, 2020 in this country. Quote, without leadership from the president , any attempt to marshal such a response will be inherentlily weakened at the outset. Its been a year this month since the Intelligence Community has put out their report. Has anything improved . Are we safer . I dont know that we are. There is a lot of energy in the private sector and the think Tank Community around here that is looking at this question and they are actually learning a great deal about what the russians did and how they did it. Jake, this was an unexpected attack against an unknown weakness in the american political process. It hit a scene between public and private, a seam between Law Enforcement and intelligence. A seam before federal and local. And the open way you can come back from that is through an extraordinary effort. Let me ask you a question coming back at you, who is the goto guy in the u. S. Federal government now to make sure we fix this . And let me answer my own question. I dont know. We dont have a goto guy. Okay. As we develop even more information, where does it go for action . And without president ial leadership, perhaps even extraordinary structures like we did after the terrorist attack with the National Counterterrorism center, i fear even though we learned more, we wont act more. All right, general, always a pleasure. Thank you so much for coming in, sir. I appreciate it. The House Intelligence Committee investigation is at an impasse and the Senate Judiciary committee seems close to one because of partisan divisions. Is President Trump in that tweet today saying republicans should finally take control . He s. He referring to the senate Intelligence Committee . Is he referring to special counsel Robert Muellers investigation . When asked what he meant today, the president ignored the question but cnn senior Congressional Correspondent manu raju joins me now. And, manu, how are republicans on capitol hill responding to this call from the president er . Reporter well, republicans on the senate side say theyre still moving forward with their investigation, theyre largely ignoring what the president had to say, richard burr, the senate Intelligence Committee chairman said earlier this afternoon, saying i dont Pay Attention to the president s tweets. But in a lot of ways that was geared towards the Senate Judiciary committee in the aftermath of Dianne Feinsteins release of that transcript from fusion gps, cofounder Glenn Simpson talking about that steele dossier of russia and trump connections. I got a chance to ask chuck grassley, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee, about the president s call to take control of the investigation. This is how he responded. I dont intend to have a discussion with the president on that point and i hope he doesnt call me and tell me the same thing that you said he said. Reporter grassley suggesting, jake, that actually the release of this transcript will not undermine his investigation going forward. He said theyve scheduled other witnesses to come forward and i asked him specifically about jared kushner, the president s soninlaw, i said does this mean he is off the hook given the concerns that kushner may not come forward now. He said, no, hes not off the hook. Jake . Manu, grassley also said he was disappointed that his scleeg, the top democrat on the Senate Judiciary committee, senator Dianne Feinstein released this transcript. You spoke with feinstein. What did she have to say . Reporter shes saying sorry to chuck grassley. Shes apologetic she did not inform him ahead of time to release the transcript. She defended her decision to release the transcript. Saying the reason to do this it had been abused for so long. The testimony over Glenn Simpsons the public needed to see exactly what he said behind closed doors. Jake, she pushed back on the president s tweet. She said she did nothing illegal as the president alleged she may have done earlier today in his morning tweet. She would not respond to the president calling her, quote, sneaky. She said she didnt want to discuss that specifically, but pushed back pretty aggressively on the president s suggestion this was done to help her politically. She said that was absolutely not the case. She release this for the Public Interest but said, again, she did not do anything illegal as the president alleged, jake. Interesting. There is this other story, manu. Michael cohen, the president s corporate lawyer thats gary cohn. Thats the wrong cohn. Cohen, Michael Cohen is suing fusion gps, which is behind the dossier as well as buzz fe Buzzfeed News for publishing the entire dossier a year ago. Ive talked to some legal experts. This could be a risky move for Michael Cohen. Reporter no question. He presumably would have to sit for a deposition and his wife perhaps would also have to agree to do that. The standard for evidentiary standard in the discovery process is pretty low, jake. That means a whole range of documents could presumably be requested from both sides as they investigate this further. Of course he would be the closest person to the president to fight this in in the legal system, fight the dossier in the legal system. We just dont know what would come out, and clearly thats got a lot of people interested about what may emerge from these lawsuits going forward, jake. All right. Manu raju on capitol hill. Thanks so much. Dont go anywhere. We have lots more to talk about, including the president bringing up Hillary Clinton on his own just now, calling her his opponent. Stay with us. 75 million of us suffer from the gritty and frustrating symptoms of dry eye. We need theratears®. Theratears® is more than just eye drops. Its eye therapy. 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And, you know, im sure secretary clinton would love nothing more than for donald trump to keep her name out of his mouth but he just cant stop because hes obsessed with her. Why does he keep bringing her up . Here is my theory, as they say, as joe biden used to say, dont compare me to the perfection he had a much better way of saying it, but compare me to my actual opponent. President trump beat Hillary Clinton. He beat Hillary Clinton. President trump on his own having some troubles, but maybe when its him versus hillary, he feels like, well, thats a fight i can win. You know, i think its a little bit more like when you go to a favorite band concert and hear the new stuff and youre like, yeah, you know, i like that. Then they break the greatest hits out, you know, i think this is his greatest hits. His free bird. Its Donald Trumps free bird. Absolutely. His supporters love the comparison to Hillary Clinton. They love contrasting everything that this president does with what Hillary Clinton would have done and he knows that. So he brings it up. For him its his best stuff. There is also that he cant let go the fact that he lost the popular vote. Remember, he was trying to convince people that he didnt lose the popular vote. There are these i think youre right, he cant quit her. And shes also, to your point, this perfect foil, this villain that he can just keep on, you know, pulling out and burnipunc at. The president began his day by tweeting his frustration about the russia probe. He was still clearly feeling the frustration this afternoon when it was brought up by reporters. But, you know, its interesting because the last week has been focused on issues having really not much to do with the russia probe, having to do with the Michael Wolff book and fire and fury and the book in which the president cooperated and his team cooperated raising serious questions, perhaps unfair and perhaps inaccurate questions, but raising questions about his Mental Fitness and yet he turns the subject back to the russia probe. That seems like thats not going from a solid ground to solid ground. Again, i think he is obsessed. Donald trump does not like these questions about the russia probe. I was surprised that he took them with such ease actually today, because i thought he would get a lot more frustrated than he actually did. I think he goes back to the russia probe because he thinks thats a fight he can win. He saw what he said about his that he was the smartest person and basically like a genius fell kind of flat, but he thinks he can win on the russia probe. There are folks within his base that repeat the talking points that he frequently says. Again, not a smart place for him to be. It almost seems like someone has told him to not attack it to vehemently because in that New York Times interview he was like, dont worry about the russia probe. I dont think about it a lot. No collusion. Did i mention no collusion . Its how hes approaching it. I think youre right, it is a little different. I believe the Washington Post reported a day or two ago that he was behind the scenes amenable to a mueller interview. And today and in june, he said he was 100 ready to talk to mueller. And then today he said well have to see. To where that change came from i think is interesting and i dont know that we know the answer to that yet. The one thing that we didnt note, though, they havent asked him. I do not think it would be appropriate if the fbi asked the president of the United States for an interview and he declined. Do you think politically as a political matter this is something that the president could withstand if he refused to give an interview to the special counsel . Is that i mean, president clinton did an interview before a special counsel. President reagan did one for irancontra. Hillary clinton did one during the campaign about the emails. Can he avoid it . Jake, think the most important thing here is closure, wherever it comes, however it comes. If mueller can get to the end of this investigation, whether its through a written set of answers, whether its through an interview, not through an interview. If they can get to the end of this, thats whats good for President Trump and his administration, period. In what manner sort of is immaterial, i think. The president s mixed messages on immigration and the d. R. E. A. M. Ers have thrown everyone for a loop, from conservatives to d. R. E. A. M. Ers themselves. That story next. If you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis,. 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Ask your dermatologist about otezla today. Otezla. Show more of you. And were back with the politics lead. A federal judges order along with the president s remarks have confused seemingly everyone about what might happen to roughly 700,000 socalled d. R. E. A. M. Ers. These are undocumented immigrants brought to this country illegally through no fault of their own as children. A Circuit Court judge in california is forcing the Trump Administration to keep accepting renewal applications for d. R. E. A. M. Ers to continue to have temporary status even though this Program Expires in march. D. R. E. A. M. Ers and their advocates and immigration hardliners are questioning how congress can move forward after the president reiterated today no immigration deal can happen without funding for his border wall. Cnns sara sidner spoke with both sides. We are americans by all means, except on a piece of paper. Reporter left behind, melody came to the u. S. At age 9, a year after this picture was taken. Just thinking back to that 9yearold girl who had so many hopes and who just hugged the her mom for the first time. Reporter this woman was brought to the u. S. From mexico as a baby. I came at 6 months. I wasnt even able to walk or talk. Reporter undocumented until 2015, they both became recipients of the deferred action for childhood arrivals or daca, which allowed them to live and work in the u. S. Without fear of deportation. We felt like we actually mattered, like i could actually go get a library kartd. I wasnt able to do that before daca. I couldnt even rent a book. Reporter two years later, the Trump Administration announced it was ending the policy, affecting about 700,000 d. R. E. A. M. Ers. I remember every single second of the announcement at 8 00 a. M. Clearly. Reporter then confusion after this bipartisan meeting where the president seemed willing to consider a path to legal status for d. R. E. A. M. Ers. The latest cnn poll says 83 of americans support allowing d. R. E. A. M. Ers to stay in the u. S. This should be a bipartisan bill. This should be a bill of love. Reporter but some conservatives say this is the opposite of being tough on illegal immigration. Ann coulter tweeting, nothing Michael Wolff can say about donald trump has hurt him as much as the daca love fest right now. These people are spitting mad. They are all or nothing people. They thought in trump on the issue of immigration that they had somebody who was not just going to talk tough but actually walk the walk. But i think at the end of the day here trump is looking for a win. Reporter republican strategist john thomas says that means a wall and ending chain migration would have to be part of the deal. Then hours after this meeting, a federal judge blocked the Trump Administrations attempt to shut daca down. This administration has been a roller coaster and it will continue to be a roller coaster until actual legislation is passed. Reporter in the meantime, these two are in college. Melody graduated earlier with a masters degree at usc and now works with an Immigration Rights group. I was the first in my family to graduate from college. I could have never imagined that would be my life coming from such humble backgrounds. Reporter now they try to imagine what comes next. Now shes two young ladies say, look, they believe in policy, they believe in legislation, they believe in Court Decisions but they do not necessarily believe the words coming out of politicians mouths, including the president of the United States, but they do realize that they have to convince legislators to make laws so that they can come out of this legal limbo that theyre living in, and i do want to mention this, they have been coming to washington with another group of people regularly knocking on doors physically, trying to talk to legislators to get them to see it their way. Jake . All right. Sara sidner. Thanks so much. Were going to talk to a congressman working on immigration fuselage years. Congressman Luis Gutierrez joins me next. Stay with us. When a cold calls. Achoo . Answer it. With zicam cold remedy. It shortens colds, so you get better, faster. Colds are gonna call. Answer them with zicam zicam. Get your better back. Now in delicious fruit drops. And were back with the politics lead and the uncertain path forward on immigration with President Trump now pushing for funding for his border wall as any possible deal with the d. R. E. A. M. Ers. Joining me now is democratic congressman Luis Gutierrez of illinois. Hes worked on legislation involving immigration policy for the last 25 years in congress. Hes retiring from congress at the end of this term. Congressman, it sounds like there is a deal possible. D. R. E. A. M. Ers get some sort of protected status as long as there is funding for Border Security, border wall, whether its fencing or whatever. Whats wrong with that deal . Why are democrats insisting on purity, just d. R. E. A. M. Ers . Thats actually not true, jake. Im ready. Youre ready to go with Border Security . Look, i have been reluctant, but i am ready and my democratic colleagues know i just want to so when Chuck Schumer and nancy pelosi walked out of the meeting with the president in september after labor day and then they had chinese food a week later, the deal was more Border Security, we would get a d. R. E. A. M. Act. In other words, the ransom for taking the d. R. E. A. M. Kids hostage was more Border Security. Okay, were there. Cnn reported yesterday that there are democrats and republicans working, and they have a deal for more Border Security. Hurd, republican from texas and one of my colleagues in the hispanic congressional caucus. Applause. But then they changed the goal posts and say no, no, no, there is moran some. Now we want to take family reunited nations, whi reunification. Chain migration. Chain migration is a term coined by extremists, antiimmigrants. Bringing people in from your family who are not immediate family, brothers, sisters. I come to the United States and i petition for my wife. Its about family. You would think that donald trump of any president would understand that since his father was in charge of the Real Estate Company he became in charge of the Real Estate Company and now his children are in charge of the Real Estate Company. Thats the way we think immigration really works in america. That is, if i come to america, who is going to make me stronger and more prosperous than my dad, my wife, my children . Hires eres my question, dems dont control anything. You dont control the house, you dont control the senate, you dont control the white house. If the president is willing to im willing to do something for the d. R. E. A. M. Ers but we need a border wall. He said yesterday im willing to compromise but we need to make changes when it comes to the immigration system. Maybe we have more people who come here on meritbased visas as opposed to diversity visas or family visas. Yes. Why not make that compromise, given that you dont have any leverage here . So, heres what they said, were holding the kids ransom, were taking them march the 3rd, its over. Let me just say, its important we deal with this immediately. Today, 300 of them lost their ability to its drulktiestru in terms of your life. I understand that and they understand they hold that over our heads. We have this very extreme love and caring and commitment to this group of young people in america. You put them on the news every day. Everybody knows you can hear them speak english. There is really no difference between them them and employ own children. I say that very, very clearly. So why change the goal post . Now they want to take the diversity because they control everything. I get that. But tell me what the ransom is. Stop changing the terms of it every time your antiimmigrant core of your Republican Party that surrounds you and influences you tells you to change it. Is there a deal to be made, even if it includes some changes to the immigration system, what you call family reunification . Is there a deal to be made . Here is where i think the constructs of the deal can be made. You want more Border Security . When i introduced the bill in 2005 with jeff flake, we were in the house and mccain and kennedy. The first chapter of 800 pages of comprehensive immigration reform, 150 pages, go and check it, jake, were all about Border Security. When we did the immigration bill in 2013, i dont know if you remember but the democrats and the republicans got together at the very end in order to get three or four more republicans, they threw 40 billion more dollars. Can i tell you what kind of Border Security . Lets do an everify system so everybody in america in order to get a job has to be qualified by the federal government. And verified. Thats going to stop people because today they dont care about the border at jfk, nor the border here at dulles, right . Or l. A. X. As you note, more people i believe more undocumented immigrants come in through airports. Today they are than the border. Because they have they will tell you. Look what theyre doing to tps. Theyre saying to salvadorians youve got 18 months to leave the country. I hope the public reads, state department issued guidance to americans, do not go, it is too dangerous. How does the richest country in the world send 200,000 people to a place where were saying to americans do not travel to. Congressman, good luck to you. I hope there is a deal and this problem gets resolved. I want to tell the American People we are ready to pay the ransom and if that is more Border Security now, and i want to do comprehensive immigration reform. Congressman Luis Gutierrez, thank you so much. The white house Just Announced a big plan to allow offshore drill but why could the Sunshine State be exempt . Stay with us. There are two types of people in the world. Those who fear the future. 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Republican congressman mark sanford of South Carolina saying the exemption reek gsz of politics as usual and is selfserving. It allows the president to avoid looking out the window to see oil rigs that south carolinians will be forced to see. Cnns rene marsh bring us this story. Reporter the Trump Administration has unveiled a plan to open up virtually every coast along the United States to oil and gas drilling. Florida was on the list but is now off lipperts. Republican governor rick scott rejected the plan. Interjuror secretary ryan zinke met with him and a deal was struck. Zinke giving scott the credit, saying as a result of discussions with Governor Scott and his leadership, im removing florida from consideration for any new oil and gas platforms. If this is not a sign of politics as usual, i dont know what is. Reporter scott is the only governor whose state is exempt from drilling so far. I hope this man right here, rick scott, runs for the senate. Reporter the white house hopes scott will unseat Florida Democratic senator bill nelson, and sparing floridas coastline just served scott a political win. Bipartisan governors from new jersey, maryland, virginia, north carolina, now South Carolina, have all expressed concerns, very much the same ones that Governor Scott expressed and theyre not taken out. So were really flummoxed as to why the administration has taken florida out. Reporter the deal florida brokered twiggered tweets from lawmakers from coastline states who want the same thing. Maine republican senator Susan Collins opposes offshore drilling there. New York Governor Andrew Cuomo asks where to sign up for a waiver and californias attorney general weighed in. Unless donald trump is again ignoring the law and playing favorites, he should treat california the way hes treating florida. Reporter environmental concerns, memories of oil spills like the 2010 deep Water Horizon Oil spill and its devastating impact on local economies is whats behind the opposition. Nearly every governor with a coastline opposes it, including several republicans. Maines governor the lone one to show some support. An interior Department Spokeswoman said there is no politics behind the florida waiver. If other governors would like to request meetings with the secretary, theyre absolutely welcome to do so. Zinke has pitched the plan as a step towards Energy Independence and potential 15 billion in federal revenue. This dramatic Drilling Plan is a proposal for now and has yet to be finalized, but this could open the administration to legal challenges. Some states could argue that these decisions are being made arbitrarily. Legal challenges and congressional action could also throw a wrench in the president s plans. Several republican lawmakers from coastal districts, jake, they they are opposed to this. Rene marsh, thanks so much. I want to bring back my panel. Let show the difference in this plan. Here is the original proposal, as you can see. It hits most of the coastal states allowing offshore drilling. Here is the updated version with florida now excluded. The interior secretary said this is related to the unique tourism in florida. To be honest, South Carolina, virginia, georgia california. California. All of these states have a huge tourism industry. Jackie, let me start with you. Doesnt the administration have a real credibility problem when it comes to exempting one state run by one of the president s closest gubernatorial allies . You know, if im Chris Christie im like, what the heck, im an ally, why didnt i get that meeting . Yes, this is a huge credibility problem. Not to mention that Governor Scott is rumored to run for senate. This would be a great thing for him to point to. It doesnt necessarily make it right. Yeah, and you have a job trying of help republicans get elected to the senate and you must admit that thats a nice ad. Rick scott, he fought to keep, you know, to keep offshore drilling off of the, you know, away from floridas coast. I mean, thats nice. It has the added benefit of being true, right . Dont hate the player, hate the game. This is a situation wow. Where Governor Scott lobbied against it, brought zbichinke d there. They made a deal and florida is not on the list. If youre a floridaen. Was there a deal or they made an agreement, okay, fine, i wont. Your map showed florida fall off the list. That seems like a deal to me. Hes not giving anything in return . I dont know of any announcements, but my point is that this is effective representation. Not to mention this is a president who managed to was complaining about talked about wind mills earlier. He has a special hate in his heart for wind mills because he protested wind mills going off the coast of his golf scores in scotland. Smaur maralago is in florida. Josh says dont hate the player, hate the game. I dont think this is this time of situation. It would be different if the Trump Administration had this broad sweeping policy and swayed by something that Governor Scott said and now theyre changing their policy. No, theyre giving Governor Scott one thing because they want him to run for senate. Like, come on. This isnt 45i9ing the player, hating game. This is the game not being fair. The game is rigged. The system is rigged. Symone, come on. Its rigged. It seems a little swampy, you have to admit. Real swampy. It is florida. Nice. But if youre a governor of i mean, you heard mark sanford in that. He was really upset. His Congressional District is on the coast, i believe. You dont want this off your coast. Youre a republican. Youre a loyal republican. Youre a governor. Youre a member of the house and youre like, wait a second, why is rick scott getting this just because they want him to run for senate or just because hes actually closer to the president than my governor is . Well, sure. But also there is a history of this, too. Republicans have dealt with trying to open offshore drilling for as long as ive been active in politics. And every single proposal we ever put together in congress has always exempted florida. Is that right . Part of the reason for that is it really is a toxic issue in florida. There are split differences in South Carolina. There are differences in georgia. There really arent in florida. I moean, it is absolutely 100 f one mind. Its fallen out of every energy plan. Stick around. Weve got more to talk about. Another republicans heading for the door. Who . I work overtime when i can get it. I need my blood sugar to stay in control. I need to cut my a1c. Weekends are my time. I need an insulin that fits my schedule. 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Covered by most insurance and medicare plans. Tresiba® ready were back with my panel. California republican darrell issa announced today that hes not going to run for reelection. He was expect today run for reelection. He had a tough race last time. That makes 32 republicans who have sid theyre not going to run for reelection to congress. 15 democrats. Is this because, josh, a fear of a democratic wave, which would not be abnormal in a Midterm Election . Yeah, i mean, look, if you look at historical standards, its really only twice in the last 100 years where a party with an incoming primary hasnt lost seats in a Midterm Election. Darrell issa actually went overtime it was so tough. Yeah, a recount. Last time around. Sure, i think thats part of the reaction to it and i think were maybe not done. I hope so i hope were done, but, yeah, there is no question there is a reaction to that. Californias, hes the second one this week, right . Ed royce also from california also announced hes retiring. There are parts in california where these republicans are going to have who probably havent had a race with the exception of issa in awhile. Dana rohrabacher is one of the people in the margin signal districts now. I think there are five of them among some of the most vulnerable republicans. Its definitely a state to watch and see how some of these other republicans, either, you know, mount a defense or decide this is the last symone, i think there about 23 house seats where there are republicans in districts that Hillary Clinton won. That Hillary Clinton won and Darrell Issas seat is one of those seats. He had a very tough time during the health care fight and he was faced with different town halls and just a lot of british. So i think we will see a number of other folks be challenged coming up for 2018. Thanks one and all. Really, really appreciate it. Be sure to follow me on facebook and twitter jaketapper. 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