The days top stories from around the world, from politics and money, to sports and pop culture. The battle to save lives as President Trump sends a tweet about the fire that baffles even his own staff about the cause of it all. Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to the lead. Im jake tapper. In the politics lead, rick gates, former number two on the Trump Campaign grilled right now about the plea deal by Defense Attorneys for former Trump Campaign chair Paul Manafort. Gates describing today in vivid detail of he says manafort engineered an elaborate scheme to avoid taxes. Prosecutors say manaforts own emails show him directing the money to multiple offshore accounts. Now, although conspireing with russia on the 2016 election is not officially on the docket, the sub text of it is looming over the trial. Gates says that manafort gave some control over a bank account in cyprus of a man of a
up until 2012 for consulting work for a ukrainian billionaire. Gates went into detail about how Shell Companies were used to move money into hidden accounts in cyprus. In one instance, according to gates, a payment supported lobbying in the United States. Gates stated that manafort reported some of the payments to u. S. Tax officials as loans. Though they were, in fact, income. Adding that manafort was, quote, trying to decrease his taxable income. Prosecutors demonstrated that manafort directed these activities through emails. There were hundreds of these gates said in court. Adding, quote, typical prak us the wiz mr. Manafort to send me a list of wire requests. Gates admitted that he used information provided by manafort to create invoices or fake amounts of money for wire transfers but the money never actually went to the vendors. Instead, it went to the banks. The purpose of this, according to gates, so that the wire
transfers would not be recorded on u. S. Business records. Nonetheless, on monday the prosecutors elicited testimony from mr. Gates and from one of mr. Manaforts accountants that tied manafort more closely to russia. The accountant Cindy Laporte testified mr. Manafort received a 10 million of deripaska, a Russian Oligarch close to president Vladimir Putin. She said she saw no evidence the loan was ever repaid. Our thanks to jim for that report. Lets talk about this with the experts. Michael, lets start with you. The case is not directly about 2016 election and any alleged russian conspiracy with any americans and in fact the prosecution said theyre not going to introduce evidence about that. And yet, we keep hearing about these politicians in russia that have ties to putin, deripaska,
theres the other klemmnick and alleged to be russian intelligence. I know the judge slaps the prosecutor for introducing it. What do you think they are doing there . I dont think theyre trying to directly introduce this evidence but its relevant to understand how manafort was behaving. Who he owed money to, who he was, you know, the subordinate of as an intelligence matter because i think he joined the campaign in part because of this debt they had to russians, as a way to reingratiate himself with them. This stuff is on the fringes of what theyre Talking About but the heart of the case is tax fraud and bank fraud and bank fraud conspiracy. What do you make of this, introducing the stuff that makes it sure sound like Paul Manafort had a lot of ties to and owed a lot to people with strong ties to Vladimir Putin . Yeah. I mean, you know, in a strange
way the topic is not helpful for President Trump at all but in a strange way this trial and what theyre Talking About i think strangely is. Because whats pretty clear is mueller and the team through the Underwear Drawer of Paul Manafort and rick gates and know whats there and brought a whole host of charges and looks like they have a locked down case. Whats not introduced is any sort of Collusion Piece that would suggest that any transfer of funds given to Paul Manafort for any kind of collusion with the russian government and the Trump Campaign and the core of what we are getting at with the mueller investigation. You know, i think in a weird, strange round about way its helpful. Theres a great and interesting story in the Washington Post after joining the campaign manafort sent a message to an employees in kiev about his rising profile and new credibility because he had joined the Trump Campaign and he asked, quote, how do we use it
chairman. Chairman. People paying attention may see a witch hunt, a trial, A Guy Named Manafort and a clear headline that will give mueller more credibility i think in the public eye. Maybe not among his core supporters but certainly people waivering in the middle. You never know. It may for people who have Involvement Lead them to come forward with more information so this is just the beginning. It is important to draw a connection between manafort and his what he owes, the financial ties because this is about the money. A russian puppet thats thats who he worked for. Exactly. Thats also important for people to know. Michael, its interesting. This is the prosecutions case right now. The defense is going do get a whack at it, as well. One assumes theyre not going to rest and have to present a case. Would you recommend that Paul Manafort testify . Is that something that you as an attorney if you worked for paul
manafort would want him to do or do you think its too risky . You have to see how the crossexamination of gates goes. What the defense is trying to do here is say, gates is still a liar. He pled guilty to lying. He cheated on his wife. He is a bad actor. And you cant believe anything he says. If they feel that they have established that, then maybe dont put on a defense and argue reasonable doubt to the jury. If it doesnt go that way, they have to make a tough decision about manafort. I think hes vulnerable for crossexamination because the Documentary Evidence here so overwhelmingly shows his hand in the direction of this whole scheme. And you cant put your client at that risk. But theyve really, you know, shot the moon here in not pled pleading to the case in the first instance. Depends on the crossexamination. Jen, manaforts accountant
testified and you had the testimony of gates, as well, about russian billionaire deripaska Loaning Manafort 10 million in 2006 and we know in 2016 manafort according to the Washington Post offered a private briefing to deripaska on the state of the race. Also, this interesting stuff about the guy indicted by mueller. And having some control over one of manaforts accounts in cyprus. Right. Never going to be that president putin having Conference Calls with manafort. Right . Probably going to be an oligarch, somebody with money, close ties to putin, the government doesnt work there like it does work here. All the ties. What is interesting here is i think anybody could have told you that manafort was a corrupt guy with ties to questionable governments before he was hired by the trump team. That wasnt exactly new. That wasnt exactly new. Not surprising. I was joking with josh and
probably Wasnt The Rising Star of the Republican Party either. So the fact that he was hired by the trump team with these russian ties is also something that should raise questions and google. You didnt need a big investigation to know that. Yeah. It was an odd pick. We wrote about it at the time. If the case is no collusion, whatever how we define collusion, but i think we are getting closer and closer to overall the entirety of the information we know now suggests not a lot of innocent meetings with russians and substantial and the treat ovweet over the w were close to collusion and what was the collusion and the extent of it and did donald trump know about it . What was the island . I think we have to be careful to separate because what were seeing right now, no question. Paul manafort. He is a bad guy. Right . Rick gates. Seems to me like he did a lot of bad stuff. But that is not proof that
donald trump has anything other than some questionable Hiring Practices in the campaign. We know that donald trump ran an Unconventional Campaign and an unconventional white house. Kind word for it. Generous. Unconventional. Such a sweetheart. A consequential decision of President Trump, whether to sit for an interview with bob mueller and the repons to the worst wildfires in the state of california. White house aides have a difficult time explaining it. Stay with us. But do you take something for your brain. With an ingredient originally discovered in jellyfish, prevagen has been shown in Clinical Trials to improve shortterm memory. Prevagen. Healthier brain. Better life. And something amazing happens. Thats our inspiration for fancy feast medleys. Wild salmon primavera. Tastes amazing. Also in pate. Fancy feast medleys. Booking a flight doesnt have to be expensive. Just go to priceline. Its the best place to book a flight a few days before my trip and still save up to 40 . Just tap and go. For the best savings on flights, go to priceline. Whenshe was pregnant,ter failed, inlaws were coming, a little bit of water, it really it rocked our world. I had no idea the amount of damage that water could do. We called usaa. And they greeted me as they always do. Sergeant baker, how are you . They were on it. It was unbelievable. Having insurance is something everyone needs, but having usaa now thats a privilege. Were the bakers and were usaa members for life. Usaa. Get your insurance quote today. Hawaii is in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Were the most isolated population on the planet. Hawaii is the first state in the u. S. To have 100 Renewable Energy goal. Were a very small electric utility. But, if we dont make this move were going to have changes in our environment, and have a negative impact to hawaiis economy. Verizon provided us a solution using Smart Sensors on their network that lets us collect near Real Time Data on our power grid. colton this technology is helping us integrate rooftop solar, which is a very important element of getting us to our Renewable Energy goals. shelee if we can create our own energy, we can take care of this beautiful place that i grew up in. And today can save your life. We are back with a politics lead. The latest chess move in the ongoing negotiations over a potential interview between President Trump and robert mueller. Rudy Giuliani Said he plans to send a letter as soon as today response to the offer of questions of possible obstruction of justice. Giuliani said, quote, we have a real reluctance of questions of obstruction. Cnns jeff zeleny picks up the coverage of new jersey where the president is staying at the golf resort bedminster. Reporter one of the hottest questions of the summer. Will President Trump sit for an interview with special could ns mueller . Theyre closer with an exception. Rudy giuliani telling Washington Post, we have a real reluctance of questions of obstruction. The president s lawyers made clear their concerns about mr. Trump sitting for a face to face interview. Hes always been interested in testifying. It is us, the team of lawyers including me, that have the most reservations about that. Reporter if they have left open the possibility the president will override the objections. The president may decide at the end to not take his lawyers advice. Thats up to him. Hes the president. He makes that decision. Reporter hes also getting input from others during his Working Vacation at his golf resort in new jersey. Including dinner with right wing Media Friends and South Carolina senator lindsey graham. This is an interesting dinner. Melania was there and its a good dinner. Sean hannity and mark levin and me. Really interesting dinner. Reporter many friends warn against talking to mueller. My political advice to the president not to sit down with bob mueller. Reporter yet the president repeatedly says he wants to. I would love to speak. I would love to. Nobody wantings to speak more than me. Reporter so if the president does refuse that interview the question is, is bob mueller going to subpoena the president . Of course, that would be without precedent. It could go to the supreme court. The only real historical precedence from the watergate era, of course. Thats secret recordings of the white house, not a president ial testimony or interview from a special counsel here. So well see by the end of the
Working Vacation if the answer to the question is no, will the president sit down or not . Jake . All right. Jeff zeleny with the president in new jersey. Thank you so much. Lets talk about this with the experts. Michael, you said in the last block were you advising Paul Manafort you would not have him testify. Hes too vulnerable. What about if youre working for President Trump . Who wants to talk according to his public pronouncements. Who says he has pnt done anythg wrong. Purely as a lawyer, i would say, dont talk to mueller. Its too dangerous. You dont have a good enough command of the facts. You lie and therefore its unsafe. But its a political case, too. And its not that easy as a lawyer to say to a political client dont talk because it looks like youre Hiding Something so what i think theyll try to do is negotiate like bill clinton did some type of interview on prescribed
topics for prescribed period of time. Perhaps like with reagan, some in writing and some orally. I think that in the end they have a hard time keeping him out of a conversation with bob mueller. Does this become politically difficult if it does go before the House Of Representatives . Lets say in this game of theoreticals democrats win back the house and some report it goes to the house and something for House Members to vote on. Does it become more difficult for republicans to defend a vote in favor of the president if the president has refused to testify or does it matter . I dont think it matters in this environment. I mean, he if theres no precedent, except for watergate as jeff zeleny just said, living by a different set of rules relating to what republicans will and wont defend so i dont think it matters for those purposes. I think the risk politically even with him testifying and perjuring himself and caught in
lies but under oath is worse. Alan dershowitz defended the president on the charges has said that its not per se a perjury trap, the idea to be lying. Its the idea that he might Say Something that is in contradiction to someone elses memory and accused of perjury. Does that hold water you think . Seems polite. The president gives speeches saying inaccurate things regularly. The odds of saying something false is pretty high. I would question the premise. Hes saying he wants to talk since december. If donald trump wanted to talk to mueller, he would do it already. I think he might want to say i want to talk and not want to talk. Whats interesting, josh, is even some defenders of the president are starting to get a little soft i think in terms of what might have happened. Take a listen to fox news own Andrew Napolitano and talking
about the case and whether theres a potential crime that occurred. If theres an agreement to receive dirt on hillary from the russians, if those agreed at least one took a step then theres the potential crime for conspiracy. He went on to say that doesnt involve President Trump. But since he says he doesnt know about the meeting. Here you have people normally sympathetic voices to the president Talking About, hey, might be something here. I think hes providing the legal analysis here. I think if we take a step back and look at the calculations that go towards whether he speaks with mueller or the team or not, i think not just a calculus on behalf of the president and the mueller team has one to make, too, here because if you are to focus your investigation or your interview entirely on obstruction or false statements, at this point without proving under any circumstance the underlying case that gave rise to this, being
russian collusion, you are in risky political territory and not suggesting you dont follow the law where it leads even to the oval office. I believe you should. However, theres a Political Risk here that you run when you bring an obstruction case, a case that is just about the invest, not about the underlying facts but just about the investigation to the american public. Is that what happened with bill clinton . Bill clinton committed perjury. Look what happened. Right . Huge public backlash. Isnt an interview about obstruction, as well, or obstruction of justice. Right. Two parts, the firing comey being one part which is that which Executive Privilege covers the most with advice. Then theres the obstruction of justice, the flynn firing. Telling comey to lay off of flynn. Yeah. Asking burr to develop the investigation, asking the intelligence people to ask the fbi. Theres that. Theres the collusion. There are three parts to this thing. All has to be played out. Stick around. Next, the candidate president
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Congressional District at the polls right now in a special election but this congressional race isnt even supposed to be close. Its a district that trump won by 11 points in 2016. Its one that hasnt had a democrat representing it in decades. But cnns ryan nobles explains why republicans are today scrambling to keep this trump stronghold. Reporter voters casting ballots tuesday in five different states and President Trump is inserting himself directly into the two biggest contests on the map. We must elect Troy Balderson. Reporter republicans have held the seat in ohios 12th Congressional District more than three decades but this special election is surprisingly close. The states Governor John Kasich who once held this seat blames the president for the tight race. But the gop candidate Troy Balderson has embraced trump support. Its brought so much enthusiasm out to have both the
Vice President of the United States and the president of the United States here within six days of each other. Its just huge. Reporter the Democrat Danny Oconnor has avoided the topic of trump. Thats the russia investigation . Robert mueller . Barely ever comes up. Reporter the president s decision to go all in on a republican Rescue Mission in ohios special election is a winning streak of sorts in the primaries. Since june, hes picked winning candidates in 12 straight gop primary contests. A rally that could be at risk in kansas. That is where the president broke with many in his party tweeting his support of chris kobach challenging the governor. At the end of the day he went with his gut and President Trumps gut is almost always exactly spot on. Reporter he failed to come up with the significant evidence of the widespread abuse of trump claimed. If hes the nominee, democrats believe it opens the door for
them to take control of the kansas governorship First Time Since 2011. Both sides attempt to glean a broader message from the elections and primaries in august are much different than general elections in november. And the candidates in these races believe local issues are what will determine the winners and losers. Whats at stake cannot be understated. This is what matters. 12th Congressional District. Thats who im running for. Reporter the looming presence of the National Political conversation is inescapable and bound to resonate beyond central ohio. Despite the National Attention this race is getting there is a very local issue that could have a big impact tonight. Last night during a rally Troy Balderson said, quote, we dont want someone from Franklin County representing us. Danny oconnor is from franklin
county. It is a significant swath of voters impacted and democrats are targeting the voters making sure they heard what balderson had to say. Theyre hoping in a very close race this could be the difference between who wins and loses tonight. Jake . All right. Ryan, thanks so much. Lets talk about this. Okay. So this is a district trump won by 11 points. Democrat not represented it in literally more than three decades. This is john kasichs old seat. Why is it competitive . Theres no more difficult task for a party in power to get the voters out in the middle of august two and a half months before a midterm. You have discrepancies in Voter Enthusiasm no matter what. You have huge discrepancies in the middle of a traditional Vacation Month and the member would serve for basically 30 days so describing how thats kra really live or die to a voter is
difficult and a problem seeing in the race. You know . The other thing is you know democrats are coming. Right . We know we have the evidence in pennsylvania. You have the evidence in alabama and virginia and all the things over the last year and a half. Theres no question about the enthusiasm of democratic voters showing up. The question is whether the republicans match it. This is close because its middle of august, difficult to match. Yet the republican Voter Registration is much higher than the democratic Voter Registration. You have to think that balderson the republican has an advantage going into it. Certainly. While the polls have been kind of closing and looking slightly more favorable to the democrat as we have gotten closer to election day, it is a race that favors the republican. The makeup of the district is affluent suburban district an you have seen big swings, big dropoffs from trumps numbers in places like pennsylvania where voters typically voted democratic but swung to trump and then swung back in these specials, this is sort of
traditional republican territory. So the question really is, are traditional Republican Voters who have a habit of turning out, will their Turnout Pattern Match that of the democrats or exceed that of the democrats seeing the surge of enthusiasm with low propensity voters. You heard of Balderson BadmouthingFranklin County. Its where there are a number of people who might have voted for trump and might actually not like trump anymore. White women voters highly educated, suburban voters, that sort. Right. To win a special election or any election you need more votes. The democrat to use this, oconnor can use it to get people out and proud of their place theyre from then perhaps he could swing it. Ultimately the problem republicans have at a National Level here is that they spent a lot more money on this race in this district. No doubt its a race they should
win and if they dont win or come close they have to look at the resources for the next two and a half months and try to figure out what to do. This is a race to win. There are a lot more competitive races than this. Perry, i want to ask you about chris kovach running for governor and republicans nationally fearful President Trump was going to endorse him as a big trump supporter, part of the voter commission, the Vote Fraud Commission thing they formed the try to find a way to make it true that 3 million to 5 million illegal votes for Hillary Clinton happened but they didnt prove it because it didnt happen and then President Trump endorsed him. Democrats were excited about that. Why . So he was trump before trump was. Hes hawkish on immigration. Also trump being told not to do Something Like of course he did it. Not surprised. He ignores the political advice and a republican state and still probably win but he is a much
more controversial figure even in conservative kansas and the democrats think its a more chance to win this state over brown and fairly unpopular in kansas and i think makes a more winnable race for the democrats and still think kobach has the advantage. This is an obviously pattern with President Trump. The party advised him stay out of the primary. And then hes involved in the florida governors race. Primary race. Picked a congressman over the frontrunner and in georgia endorsed kemp for governor and won. South carolina obviously against mark sanford and he lost the seat in the process. Why do you think he does this . How frustrating is this for the establishment . Ill be honest. I dont think theyre actually is a whole lot of evidence that he has been totally unconventional in this area. Talking about a few where theres been disagreement in the party of who to endorse and the
vast majority of races and hes pretty much endorsed who the Republican Party would want him to endorse. Kobach. Thats the riskiest endorsement to date. In florida he has momentum. This is somebody that because of trump. Doesnt he have the momentum because of trump . Potentially. The campaign was working anyway. My point is hes not going out and taking on a Freight Train here. I mean, hes endorsed a candidate that looks like theyre going to win in almost every one of the races. There have been times where he has taken advice from the Political Class in a way thats luther strange. Surprised me. Criticized trump over the access Hollywood Tape. Wound up getting primaried. Having to go to a runoff and then trump sort of forgave and endorsed her and she made it
through safely and there have been moments. I was just going do say thats a really good point and not Talking About tuesday is the missouri primary for senate. Right . Which is the president very quickly put together, you know, the entire political apparatus of josh holly. Right. A ton of those stories around the country that hes actually played a constructive last week, trump did not endorse and endorsing people probably going to win anyway. Thats smart, good. All right. Stick around. Next, the moral argument to impeach the president , Vice President pence disagrees mike pence on the matter. What am i Talking About . Stay with us. Theres a lot to love about medicare. Theres also a lot to know. The most important thing . Medicare doesnt pay for everything. Yep. Youre on the hook for the rest. So consider an aarp Medicare Supplement insurance plan, insured by Unitedhealthcare Insurance Company. A plan like this helps pay some of what medicare doesnt. So you could end up paying less. And these are the only plans of their kind endorsed by aarp. Selected for meeting their high standards of quality and service. Call Unitedhealthcare Insurance Company now to request this free Decision Guide, and learn more. Like, Medicare Supplement plan, give you the freedom to go with any doctor who accepts medicare patients. Its nice to have a choice. And your coverage goes with you, anywhere you travel in the country. We have grandkids out of state. They love our long visits. Not sure about their parents, though. Call unitedhealthcare and ask for your free Decision Guide today. Call unitedhealthcare if yor crohns symptoms are holding you back, and your Current Treatment hasnt worked well enough, it may be time for a change. Ask your doctor about entyvio, the only biologic developed and approved just for uc and crohns. Entyvio works at the site of inflammation in the gi tract and is clinically proven to help many patients achieve both Symptom Relief and remission. Infusion and serious allergic reactions can happen during or after treatment. Entyvio may increase risk of infection, which can be serious. Pml, a rare, serious, potentially fatal Brain Infection caused by a virus may be possible. This condition has not been reported with entyvio. Tell your doctor if you have an infection, experience frequent infections or have flulike symptoms or sores. Liver problems can occur with entyvio. If your uc or crohns treatment isnt working for you,
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in his company. But again, lets talk about this with the experts. This was a very, very strong moral stand by someone thats devout and serious about his faith. We can harm our families, employers and friends. The president of the United States, if he falls in bad moral habits he can incinerate the planet. Called for him to resign or be removed from office. Bill clinton. Bill clinton, yes. The internet can be inconvenient. This is the right time to remind people if he was not the running mate for President Trump he would have probably lost reelection and no political future. This is a guy desperate to be in the good graces, hes had to be loyal to him because hes his Vice President and obviously put his own moral compass to the side in the process. In 1998, pence said, quote, in a day when reckless Sexual Activity is manifesting on the staggering rates of divorce now more than ever America Needs to look to her first family as role
models writing about bill clinton. I think it gets at something in the culture which is very devout christians conservative kind of willing to look away from Donald Trumps personal life. This is shown up in the polls. About once a month or so a study coming out taking a look at attitudes on Something LikeExtramarital Affairs or moral behaviors condemned by the evangelical leaders and you have seen this shift, this pretty wild shift in the last year and a half, two years of the evangelical community writ large and especially those leetdeader used to say its wrong but i excuse it. Its a difference of younger evangelicals and those leaders who have been more flexible. Older ones . Younger evangelicals view the faith and what they expect out of leaders in a different way and this is something thats shown up in poll after poll,
this sort of flexibility. Cnn spoke with voters who voted for trump in 2016. Take a listen to one womans view of him now. I worked with A Hot Of Hispanic evan gel kaels that are pro life. Caring about family, jobs, faith and education. Top for us. President trump delivering on those things. This rhetoric of he tweeted this or he does this, i dont care about that. Is that where we are . About actions. Josh will know neil gorsuch. Brett kavanaugh. They have rewarded Trump Governing in a way i didnt expect. More conservative on policy on like issues of abortion and 2016 Trump Campaign is moderate. Governed in a conservative way and mike pence is not as loyal to trump and arguably the most loyal Vice President i can remember. Theres been very little,
considering how much trump bungled, i cant think off the record he objected to. I think if its a mike pences policies enacted by Donald Trump Mike Pence is not president. And i mean, just to remind our viewers, this is a president whos now lied about a payment to a porn star for an alleged affair, theres a whole other scandal involving the 1998 Playboy Playmate Of The Year karen mcdougall. Are we in a period now where the conduct of a president s personal life, talk about democrats president s at another time i suppose, Doesnt Matter anymore for people whom religion is very important . Two observations to make. One, i think what we found out in late 90s and the American People have not a lot of tolerance for moralizing. What they care much more for is what happens. And what a president is actually doing. And with bill clinton in the late 90s you saw republicans take a bath as a result of
moralizing with him and with democrats you see perhaps something similar happening with those core conservative voters. Second observations is with the voerts, these are not flippant voters. Theyre they have core convictions. They vote on issues and for time and time again, they have been told a lot of stories about things that dont happen. And what theyre watching with this president what do you mean by that . People pro life or theyre you know, marriage or pro life, core to that constituency, they believe they have been told a lot of stories by politicians that have not come to fruition and watched with this president in the year and a half is govern more conservatively than any republican president before them so theyre not looking for a perfect messenger. Theyre looking for somebody with results in the policy realm and what they vote for and i think perfectly articulated by that segment there. Let me ask you to put the
shoe on the other foot. Are evangelical voters not just what feminist voters were in the late 90s, vote for what they do and not the personal life . Any feminist looks at bill clinton life, personal life, find a lot thats wanting. Look. I think thats an interesting comparison. Im wrapping my head around it. Theyre more happy, focused on what president clinton or President Trump are doing for them and less focused on the personal life. A point that i agree with actually, people decide what they care most about and put to the side and rarely a perfect politician, no matter what your interest is or what issue you care about. So in this case, that may be it. Look. I think i have an issue with feminist perhaps universally voting for bill clinton just as i have an issue with evangelicals voting for donald trump because saying your biggest issues are moral issues and a devout follower of jesus
then how can you follow this guy . And, you know, i think you can make the same argument fairly of people following a guy who had an affair with an intern. Its fair but i think were in the present day and theres a conflict, like a conflicting morality issue with evangelicals i cant get myself orr. What would mike pence make of this . His comment in 1999 versus now . I mean, in public to list Donald Trumps policy no, no. Sodium pentathol. He was Talking About the porngs of a preside importance of a president leading a Moral Christian life. Delivering on policy. Okay. A snl skit in the room with his wife saying one day that guy will be out and ill be in and i
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