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And George Orwells 1984 was fiction, but Rudy Giuliani with a new assault on facts by saying, quote, truth isnt truth. But up first, fury and fear over at the white house. The fear stems from uncertainty over what the White House Counsel Don Mcgahn told special counsel Robert Muellers investigators. The New York Times reports that mcgahn spent 30 hours in interviews with the mueller team. The fury is evident in the prthprt president s increasingly angry attacks on mueller and his investigators. In a tweet today, the president referred to the, quote, disgraced and discredited bob mueller and his whole group of angry democrat thugs. He went on to say, quote, muellers angry dems are looking to impact the election. They are a national disgrace. Lets go to our chief White House Correspondent jim acosta. How concerned is the president and his legal team about what don mcgahn may have said to mueller . Reporter well, wolf, i think you can tell by what Rudy Giuliani said on meet the press yesterday, that whopper he said, that the truth isnt truth, that theyre trying mightily to do some verbal and mental gymnastics to explain their way out of this. But i did talk to a source who is familiar with the president s legal teams thinking and was a part of the process when they gave don mcgahn the permission to speak to muellers team. This person was telling me, and were just reporting this now, that the thinking inside the president s legal team at that time is they were not exactly waiving don mcgahn in terms of executive privilege. They wanted to allow him to cooperate, but according to the source, wolf, the president s legal team at the time was thinking that they were still going to maintain executive privilege over the information that don mcgahn provided to the special counsels office. The thinking being that at some point in time if muellers team wanted to use that information, there could be some kind of battle over how that information is used, that obviously they wanted to cooperate with the mueller investigation, they wanted to provide don mcgahn in terms of his talking to the mueller team, but according to this source familiar with the president s legal teams thinking, they still believe that theres executive privilege over what don mcgahn said at that time. So wolf, there could be a question down the road when Robert Muellers Team Presents their information in their report to Rod Rosenstein at the Justice Department in terms of what don mcgahn said during that 30 hours of questioning. The source that i spoke with earlier today, wolf, was saying that they still maintain executive privilege over what don mcgahn said. So this narrative, according to this source, that the sky is falling and the house is on fire because of what don mcgahn told muellers team is not exactly accurate because they still believe theres executive privilege thats been asserted over that information. Amidst all of this, jim, theres a lot more fallout emerging right now over the president s decision to revoke the former cia director John Brennans security clearance. 175 former u. S. Officials spanning several agencies, administrations going back to the Reagan Administration have added their names to a list of intelligence officials denouncing the president s decision. Brennan is considering now, what, going to court to fight all this. Whats the latest youre hearing from the president . Reporter well, wolf, we can point out the president , in addition to going after Robert Mueller, has been escalating his attacks on the former cia director john brennan. He put out a tweet earlier this morning saying that he hopes john brennan will sue in this case. Its interesting. Heres the tweet. I hope john brennan, the worst cia director in our countrys history, brings a lawsuit. It will then be easy to get all of his records, texts, emails, and documents to show not only the poor job he did but how he was involved with the mueller rigged witch hunt. He wont sue. Interesting to note about that tweet, wolf, thats exactly whats been said by critics of the president when he threatens to sue people, when hes threatened to sue news organizations and all sorts of things in the past. People have said, well, if the president does that, that would of course subject him to the discovery process of the legal system where all of his texts and emails and so on and so forth could be made part of the process. Its interesting that the president would use that exact same rationale to say he hopes john brennan brings a lawsuit against the administration. But wolf, this only underlines this battle that exists between the president and john brennan and some of these intelligence officials who are coming out very publicly. You cant really emphasize this enough, how extraordinary it is to see so many intelligence professionals from the Intelligence Community going back decades now, coming out and supporting john brennan and saying that this use of revoking security privileges by the white house, by the president is just flat wrong. You have the Intelligence Community pushing back against the executive branch, which its a part of, in ways that we havent seen before in many, many years, wolf. All right. Good point. Thanks very much, jim acosta, at the white house. Lets discuss this and more. Joining us, cnn political analyst april ryan. April, lets get to don mcgahn, the white house counsel. Hes the lawyer not for the president. Hes the lawyer for the white house. Hes a government lawyer. He went and spent 30 hours talking to mueller and his team. And the president doesnt like it. The bottom line is don mcgahn understands the severity of this. He understands that if you are asked to come, and even if the president says theres executive privilege, this is a very serious investigation. Ive been told by those lawyers for some parties involved in this that, you know, this deals with a lot of this is focusing in on that june 9th meeting. It deals with the lecelections issues. This is very serious. This is not about the court of public opinion. This is about the rule of law. And thats what don mcgahn understands. Even though the president doesnt like it. He gave those 30plus hours, from what were hearing, for a reason. The reason, presumably being, among other things, that he was concerned about his own legal stance in all of this. He wanted to show that he had nothing to hide and was willing to cooperate. Thats actually quite stunning, the conflict he felt. Theres really a question there as to whether that should have been something that would give rise to his own resignation or disclosure of what was happening. Whats important to keep in mind here is that government lawyers arent like private lawyers. Private lawyers have a duty to represent their client. Theres an Attorney Client privilege. For government lawyers, theres a broader objective of serving the public interest. The court has been various courts have been really clear, even when it comes to privilege claims. If there is no government interest in withholding information thats relevant to a criminal investigation. So mcgahn is in a difficult situation thats made even more complicated by this particular president , who tends to, as was mentioned, take the rule of law and just shred it, throw it up in the air and see where things land. Were a bit flummoxed across the board as to how to sort these legal issues out because the president doesnt respect the law. Seth is going to sort it out for us now. How do you see it . Piece of cake. Well, listen, i think this is a legal team that has a strict duty to throw strikes. They have just many unforced errors here. Just looking are you talking about the White House Legal Team or the private Trump Legal Team . The private Trump Legal Team led, among others, by Rudy Giuliani. I think mr. Giuliani is putting his client in significant legal peril. If you look at whats going on right now, there are significant unforced errors. The situation with don mcgahn, there could be arguments either way as to whether or not the president wanted to waive privilege or whether he could or should. At the end of the day, thats not necessarily a bad strategy. Whats utterly shocking is when you waive privilege and you find out that don mcgahn has been speaking with the special counsels office for 30 hours and youre learning about it when youre reading it in the New York Times, thats absolutely shocking. Now were hearing that they think they can still claim executive privilege when i can tell you they absolutely cannot. The case law on this is clear. Once waived, its waived permanently. You know that don mcgahn did not speak for 30 hours. It had to be broken out in days. Every single day the president s lawyers needed to be sitting down with either mcgahn or at least his attorney trying to figure out what in the world is going on. Theres a lot of misdirection going on, and the president is in significant legal peril. And wolf, part of this problem is that Rudy Giuliani, the president s personal attorney now, is doing a lot of these things without the white house knowing whats happening. And don mcgahn is trying to save himself. Rudy giuliani is the wild card. You dont know what to expect. Ive said this before. Sarah Huckabee Sanders got upset. Theyre just not knowing whats going on with what Rudy Giuliani is doing. Shes saying Rudy Giuliani is saying hes worried the president is going to make inconsistent statements. Thats exactly what Rudy Giuliani is doing. Hes changing his story about trump tower. Hes changing his story about whether there was collusion. Even if there is, its not incapsulated in the federal code, which is technically incorrect. A lot of misdirection, a lot of unforced errors here. Giuliani goes on television and doesnt even know a lot of the facts involving that trump tower meeting in june of 2016 when the russians were pitching an idea to help the president get dirt on hillary clinton, and they made it clear in the email exchange, the Text Messages they were sending with donald trump jr. This was coming from the russian government. Yeah, i mean, Rudy Giuliani is shooting from the hip like his client. I dont think hes actually functioning as an attorney, as was mentioned in the traditional sense. Mcgahn is at least trying to adhere to his ethical obligations. I think this misinformation, this notion that facts arent facts, that we can shift our story and it all depends on whoever is speaking undermines our entire civil and criminal justice system. Rules of evidence, both at the federal level and state level, are designed for decades, if not centuries, to make sure that the information that goes before the juries is accurate and supported by facts. So what giuliani is doing is not just undermining the interest of his client, but it undermines the interest of the American People and the rule of law and the criminal and Civil Justice system. Let me play a clip from giuliani yesterday talking about the trump tower meeting. Listen to this. All they knew is that a woman with a russian name wanted to meet with them. They didnt know she was a representative of the russian government. And indeed shes not a representative of the russian government. Well, she was a representative of the russian government. In the email exchange that donald trump jr. Had with rob goldstone, who was setting up this meeting with the russian, the intermediary, it says clearly, this is obviously very high level and Sensitive Information but is part of russia and its governments support of mr. Trump. Clearly this was a meeting that was designed to provide information. They didnt get it necessarily from the russian government to the trump team. What the problem is that Rudy Giuliani is doing, hes out here giving what he wants to give, and he understands hes trying to play this in the court of public opinion. He clearly understands that whatever he puts out there, the trump base is listening. Theyre trying to play this in the court of public opinion. The president s Approval Rating on russia when it comes to his base is so high. And hes giving wrong information. Again, this is about the rule of law. With that june 9th meeting, you could have President Trump you could have and this is what im hearing possibly as an unindicted coconspirator. You could have other trump names come out. You could also have issues of conspiracy, election issues. Theres so much that comes just out of the june 9th meeting. This is serious. I cannot stress how serious this meeting it. He doesnt know the facts of his own case. He doesnt know the law of his own case. Hes completely silent as to the security clearance revocation issues, which i know is really kind of on a different strand. But i think thats relevant because it is illegal to attack people who are participating in the conducting of a lawful federal investigation. In order to do that, if hes going to be interfering in that, there is its not a good look as far as obstruction is concerned. All right, seth, kim, and april. Thank you, guys, very much. Up next, new signs prosecutors may be closing in to charge President Trumps former fixer and lawyer, michael cohen. What this means potentially for the president. 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Goes with you when you travel anywhere in the u. S. Call today for a free guide. Theres more support today for former cia director john brennan as President Trump goes on the attack once again. 175 former u. S. Officials have added their names to a letter denouncing President Trump for revoking brennans security clearance. They join more than a dozen former intelligence officials and 60 former cia officials who put out similar statements last week. Brennan is promising a court fight if necessary. I have been contacted by a number of lawyers. They have already given me their thoughts about the basis for a complaint, an injunction to try to prevent him from doing this in the future. If my clearances and my reputation as im being pulled through the mud now, if thats the price were going to pay to prevent donald trump from doing this against other people, to me its a small price to pay. So i am going to do whatever i can personally to try to prevent these abuses in the future. And if it means going to court, i will do that. President trump shot back on twitter today, daring him to file a lawsuit, calling him a, quote, political hack, and saying Intelligence Community critics are only concerned with losing the money and prestige they have that a security clearance brings. Lets bring in democratic congressman ted liu from california. Congressman, thanks so much for joining us. So is the president going through what his critics are describing as an enemys list, trying to inflict whatever damage he can . Thank you, wolf, for your question. Thats absolutely correct, and i think its important to understand that just because a president has the power to take an action doesnt mean its legitimate. So for example, if someone were to bribe the president , say im going to give you 10,000 in exchange to get a security clearance and the president agreed, that would not be legitimate. So similarly, if the president s revoking John Brennans security clearance because of free speech issues, that is also not legitimate, and i think john brennan would have a very reasonable and probably victorious First Amendment case if he were to bring it. Did brennan go too far describing the president s behavior as and he threw out the word treasonous. I think different people can look at what the president did in helsinki, the way he ckowtowd to president putin. Im not sure i would have gone to that length. But i think john brennan is within reason to have made that conclusion. People can also look at the trump tower meeting and reasonably conclude that was collusion. Collusion is different than treason. Yes, it absolutely is. And by the way, donald trump today tweeted that theres no crime as collusion. Thats true. Its just called conspiracy in legal terms. But yes, treason is a strong word. I agree with that. All right. As you know, the weekend reporting that the White House Counsel Don Mcgahn has been cooperating extensively with Robert Muellers russia probe. The president says he encouraged that kind of cooperation, but its unclear what mcgahn said. Is this mcgahn trying to protect himself legally down the road . Hes the white house counsel. Hes not the president s personal attorney. There was one thing don mcgahn had to do before he could take office. He had to take an oath. That was not an oath to donald trump or to any political party. It was an oath to the u. S. Constitution. Ultimately, don mcgahns client is the constitution and the rule of law. Thats what he was doing when he was cooperating with the special counsels office. I think don mcgahn absolutely did the right thing. As you know, the president was doing some spin control on mcgahns 30 hours of q a with the mueller team, refuting any suggestion that mcgahn is, in the president s words, a john dean style rat. John dean, of course, was the nixon administrations counsel, a whistleblower. Is his decision to drag john dean into this a warning to mcgahn . I thought it was very telling that donald trump used the word rat in his tweet. An innocent person would not view a cooperating witness as a rat. But a criminal mind would. As a former prosecutor, ive dealt with lots of different criminals. This is how criminals think. They think anyone who cooperates with Law Enforcement is a rat and is somehow going to rat them out. Again, this is another statement that is inconsistent with actions of an actually innocent person. Since don mcgahn is a white house counsel, not the president s personal attorney like Rudy Giuliani, did he have any choice in testifying and agreeing to q a with the mueller team . I think ultimately if Robert Mueller had subpoenaed him, he would have had to do so. According to donald trump himself, he gave don mcgahn permission to go do these interviews. Now the president appears to regret it. Again, if youre actually innocent, you wouldnt regret don mcgahn doing this. You would have nothing to hide, but it looks very much that donald trump has a lot to hide from the American People. Congressman ted lieu, as usual, thanks for joining us. Thank you, wolf. Just in, theres some eyeopening new polls showing the majority of americans have little confidence in the white house staff and dont believe the president hires, quote, all the best people. For just 59. Ancestrydna can open you to a world of new cultures to explore. With two times more detail than any other dna test. You can get a new taste of your heritage. Only 59 our sites lowest price ever. And if you get lost, just hit me on the old horn. Man toms my best friend, but ever since he bought a new house. Tom its a 10 cover . Oh, okay. Didnt see that on the website. Hes been acting more and more like his dad. Come on, guys jump in the waters fine tom pritchard. How we doin . 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That number remaining fairly consistent this year in that poll despite the russia probe, the summit controversy, the former associates facing legal issues, but this new poll shows many people do lack confidence in the people surrounding the president of the United States. The director of the Monmouth University polling institute, Patrick Mauer r patrick murray, is joining us now. Give us the upshot on the president s Approval Rating. You just mentioned 43 to 50 disapprove. The disapproval is a few points up from the last time we measured it, but that was right after his meeting with kim jongun where he got a slight bump in that meeting. Its been really consistent. There has not been anything thats moved his numbers significantly. Looking at your polls in june after helsinki, his disapproval was 46 . His approval number was 43 . Its 43 now. Theres another number that always jumps out at me as a political nerd. Right track, wrong track. Is the country moving in the right track or wrong track . Right now, 35 of the American Public believes the country is moving in the right direction. 57 think the country is moving in the wrong direction. Thats a number political analysts look at closely, especially in advance of the midterm elections. Right. And i think its going to have an impact on the midterm elections and whos in power. But weve seen this number to be negative for ten years now. This goes back through the obama administration. And that is really why we keep seeing this constant changeover in who controls congress and the presidency and so forth. The public is not happy with the direction of the country. When theyre not happy, they take it out on whoever is in charge. This year, the republicans in congress have to be worried about that. But you would think, you know, that with the economy in pretty good shape, the stock market in pretty good shape, unemployment numbers, job creation, if its the economy stupid, as James Carvell once said, youd think more people would think it was moving in the right direction. Its not just the economic numbers but how people feel its affecting them. This is one of those economies where people dont feel all that benefitted by that. In fact, were going to have numbers coming out later in the week of a question that we asked about is this economic recovery really giving you something at your kitchen table. A lot of people say no. So basically these numbers, right track wrong track, approval number, disapproval number suggest the republicans could be in trouble in november . Absolutely, yes. What about confidence in the staff that the president has surrounded himself with . You know, after what happened last week, the manafort trial, omarosas book came out, so we asked this question, does donald trump hire the best people . 58 say no. 30 say yes. Theres a big partisan divide. Weve always seen this partisan divide. Nearly all democrats say no, he does not. Whats interesting is only twothirds of republicans say he does. 29 say either he doesnt or give a mixed response. They just you know, even though theyre going to stand by the president , a good number of republicans say they dont think hes surrounding himself with the best people. Patrick murray, thanks for coming in. My pleasure. A brand new Monmouth University poll. Theres more news were following, including Rudy Giuliani goes full orwell, saying truth is not truth. Hes now explaining that comment. Well explain what hes saying. Plus, as Melania Trump spoke out against Cyber Bullying today, her husband was actually intensifying feuds on twitter, calling the special counsel, quote, a thug. 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Im knot goinot going to be into having him testify so he gets trapped into perjury. When you tell me that, you know, he should testify because hes going to tell the truth and he shouldnt worry, well, thats so silly because its somebodys version of the truth, not the truth. He didnt have a conversation truth is truth. I dont mean to go, like no, it isnt truth. Truth isnt truth. Truth isnt truth. But its not the first time weve heard a message like this from the president and his team. Listen to this. Youre saying its a falsehood, and theyre giving sean spicer, our press secretary, gave alternative facts. In a situation like this, you have, over time, facts develop. What youre seeing and what youre reading is not whats happening. If tact counting is anything, weve never had anybody with the level of audacity he has. Its in the eye of the beholder. No, facts are not in the eye of the beholder. All right. Lets discuss this and more. Republican congressman Francis Rooney of florida is joining us. Thanks so much for joining us. Let me get your reaction to that alternative facts, truth isnt truth. Whats your reaction . Well, as a former ambassador to the holy sea, im a big believer in the objective truth. If you dont have objective truth, you have relativism. Im sure that the mayor meant something about the advantage a prosecutor has over a testifying person in a deposition, but what he said is a little hard to understand. It was hard to understand. Let me get your reaction to the president revoking the former cia director John Brennans security clearance. As you now know, 175 former u. S. Officials are adding their names to a growing list of intelligence officials spanning multiple administrations going back to the Reagan Administration, denouncing the president s decision. Where to you stand on this . Well, i think criticism of our intelligence agencies was not necessarily the best thing. These people risked their lives to do a very difficult job around the world. Ive had the honor and pleasure to be associated with a lot of them. On the other hand, however, mr. Brennans personalization and politicization of intel is a little disturbing too. Its kind of like the business at the fbi of strzok and mccabe. We need to have respect for our institutions, and we need to respect the people that do the hard work of protecting our country. So you think the president was right in stripping brennan of his security clearance . I dont know what the legalities are, but he does make one point that i thought was kind of interesting. Why did all these people need a security clearance after they finished doing their jobs . Well, sometimes theyre brought back to consult with current intelligence officials. The current cia director, the current director of National Intelligence may have a perplexing problem theyre dealing with and want the recommendation, they want the advice of somebody who may have actually dealt with that individual, that problem years earlier. Thats why they maintain security clearances. Oh, im sure of that. And that happens all the time. Also, people go back into the government. But during those times, theres probably a way to have a limited clearance to do certain things without having a bloroad one. If youre going to have security clearances, youre going to have security clearances. If youre going to be called back for advice, if the director of National Intelligence wants to call back the former director of National Intelligence for advice and share Sensitive Information, that individual has to still maintain a security clearance. Well, thats true. I mean, ive had one for many, many years. Occasionally its used. A lot of times its not. You do make a good point. But i think the big thing here is this politicization of these different Government Agencies and the hardness of the rhetoric on all sides cant be doing good for our institutions and for the feeling of the country at large. What did you think of the president s description this morning of Robert Mueller and his team as a bunch of thugs . Well, thats kind of what i mean about the harsh language on all sides. I dont know how that really serves the president s interests when it just makes people maybe feel sorry for prosecutor mueller when they dont need to. Or maybe its going to influence people that will be called to pass judgment on what the prosecutor comes up with. Yeah, its pretty shocking to hear that kind of description of Robert Mueller. Theyve been working on this now for more than a year. A bunch of thugs, thats pretty, you know, disgusting when you think about what these individuals are doing. Thugs, thats a pretty strong word. Especially a man with the reputation of prosecutor mueller. Hes got a stellar reputation in the military and fbi, et cetera he served in the fbi, the fbi director for a dozen years or so. Were also learning now and i quickly want to get your reaction, congressman that the current White House Counsel Don Mcgahn sat down were some 30 hours of q a with the special counsels team. Mcgahns attorney said that the president was authorizing this kind of q a and didnt really have anything to worry about. What does it say to you that 30 hours of testimony occurred . Well, im sure that he had the president s blessing to go do it. Otherwise, i would wonder if he would still be white house counsel. But 30 hours is a long time. I would think you better be really on your game if youre going to spend 30 hours with prosecutors of the caliber of mueller. Do you think the president should sit down for an interview . I dont know. Thats really up to the president. He has to weigh the pros and cons. You know, thats what the fifth amendment and all that is all about. Hell have to decide what works in his favor to either be called, if thats possible for a president. Ive seen arguments on both sides of that. Or if it puts him in a better light to volunteer. Congressman rooney, thanks so much for joining us. Thank you for having me on. All right. More news were following. Take a look at these live pictures from the courthouse in alexandria, virginia, where jurors in the Paul Manafort trial are deliberating now for the third day. What the time frame may say about those deliberations. Well go there for a live report. And cnn goes to syrias final rebel stronghold where people say they have no escape from a potentially imminent government onslaught. We have an exclusive report. Well be right back. Little things can be a big deal. Thats why theres otezla. Otezla is not a cream. Its a pill that treats moderate to Severe Plaque Psoriasis differently. 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It was a meeting between the defense team, the prosecution, and the judge, all this sealed, meaning the transcripts of what happened inside those two bench Conference Also not be unsealed and released until after the verdict. So we out here in the press and the public have no idea what happened in those. But they were relatively short. In the meantime, the jir now going on hour five of their third day of deliberations. We have not heard a peep out of this jury today. Last week, we only saw two notes. The first one last week asking four different questions, including what reasonable doubt meant. The next day on friday, the only note for them was that they wanted to call it a weekend early, getting out at 5 00 p. M. Now. Not a peep from the jury today. This jury has not been sequestered. They were allowed to go home over the weekend. They go home at night. They are not allowed to read or Research Anything or talk about this case overnight. Driving through hell. 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Turning to another cnn exclusive, this one from the last remaining rebel stronghold in syria i had lid. The regime is closing in on nearly 3 million syrians who are languishing there. Arwa damon speaks to parents who lost their children in brutal air attacks telling their stories of courage under incredible fire. Reporter there used to be an ice cream shop on the corner. Kids playing in the streets. A sunset the violence would not strike here, at least not like this. A sense that the violence would not strike here, at least not like this. Its if i have days after multiple air strikes hit this once quiet neighborhood in i had little bit province killing dozens of people shattering whatever illusion of safety that may have existed. For years now, it has been documented. Whats the point in all of your filming this man wants to know. For there is no humanity in this . In the worlds response to syrias heartless destruction. Reporter only one of eastbound re hims five children survived. Its just memories now. The family next door displaced from elsewhere, were all killed. Seven of them. Also killed was a media activist. He was just 20 years old, a nurse, and First Responder by training, a role he played in his native aleppo before the family was forcibly dispoliced to i had little bit as idlib he when the regime took over. When he saw First Responders werent there he threw his camera aside to help a little girl. But another strike came in, killing them both. His parents seem stoic together, proud but in pain. But later as his mother shows us his clothes, she breaks down. In the room next door his father shows us his photos. Tears he cant cry in front of his wife. They did everything together. A Father Son Team documenting their nations pain, now directly a part of it. The sluggish summer pace of life as we drive through idlib seems the belie the violence. It is the last remaining rebel stronghold. Turkey and russia have been negotiating to ostensibly come to some sort of an agreement to prevent a total massacre here by the Syrian Regime and the russian backers. The assault on idlib has been called a red line. The border has been closed. And a turkish says his government is pouring millions of dollars into refugee camps. He was just saying he remembers when there were just a few tents here and the rest of it was just the olive groves. Now you take a look, and it just has such an aura of permanence to it all. The Rolling Hills a stones throw from the Turkish Border has been transformed into a sea of homes of lost souls. Idlibs population has doubled in recent years as more syrians arrived. Its also where, as other parts of the country fall back into government control the regime relocated residents and rebel fighters. For those here, normal and gnome have been irreversibly redefined. We cant go become, ever, he says. He doesnt trust the assad regime. And with nowhere left to go, many feel like they are just waiting for their death sentence to be carried out. Arwa damon, cnn, idlib province. Awful situation. Thats it for me. I will be back at 5 00 p. M. In the situation room. In the meantime the news continue right now. All right, wolf thank you so much. Hi, everyone. Im brooke baldwin. You are watching cnn. The president is intensifying his attacks against special counsel Robert Mueller. Today he called muellers team of prosecutors, quote, thugs. Al