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Knight. N will the Prime Minister join me in congratulating parents of provisionalternative academy, providing vital places for those with complex behavioral means. Will he also agree that the offices that would scrap free schools would deny Parents Choice in children opportunity . Prime minister cameron my honorable friend is right. The preschools movement is bringing what we need in this country, more good and outstanding schools. We have over 250 such schools in existence. He wanted see 500 set up during this parliament. What we have seen as one quarter of classes are outstanding. Instead of the education spokesman speaking out today, he should praise the fact that a quarter are outstanding schools. In addition, these are not just yummyscendingly called mummies, and we should be proud of the people who set the schools up. Speaker order. Can i ask the Prime Minister about the refugee crisis . This is the Largest Movement of people across europe since the second world war. Over 50,000 refugees are arriving in greece, thousands more setting off from austria to hungary. We would accept 20,000 Syrian Refugees over the next five years. Musthese people, 2020 seem a lifetime away. How many will be allowed to come to the u. K. By the end of the year . Iime minister cameron before answer the question, im sure the house will join me in paying tribute to her 28 years of french bench front bench service. She has served with distinction, twice is stepping into the breach as her parties active leader. She has always been a robust adversary across these boxes, and a champion for womens rights, leading the way in changing attitudes in our country for the better. Although we have not always seen eye to eye, she has served her constituents with distinction and i wish her well as she continues to serve this house from the back benches. Turning to the specific issue, she is absolutely right. This is the biggest crisis facing europe. We have to act on all areas, using our ahead and our hearts. We are committing to 20,000 people. I want us to get on with that. There is no limit to the amount of people who can come in the first year. We have to go to the camps, find the people, make sure they can be housed, we have to find schools for their children, work with councils to make sure that when these people come they get a warm welcome. Can i thank him for his generous words about me and say that, for me, it has been an absolute honor and privilege to play my part in this great party. We have to do all of those things he set out in relation to the refugees. We still need to know and have a commitment about the numbers that we will take this year. This is an urgent crisis. If he cant give us a number today, can he commit to consulting with local authorities, government, voluntary organizations, and come back in a month and say how many this country will take this year . It is welcome that the Prime Minister says we will take in refugees from the camps, but he has ruled out those who have already made it to southern europe. We understand that this argument is not wanting more people to put themselves in danger but we have got to deal with the reality, and the reality is that there are already thousands, including thousands of children without their parents, who have arrived. We take 2002 this country. We should be playing our part to help the most Vulnerable Children even if they are already in europe. Will he reconsider this . Number we can achieve over the coming year, the first meeting chaired by the secretary and Community Secretary. We want secretary. We want to invite representatives of the lga to make sure we can plan. It is one thing to give a commitment to the number, which it is the 20,000 i think it is right or Something Else to make sure you can find out, get them here. I hope the whole country can come together and making sure we deliver the affair properly. The second reality in europe i would say is also a bigger reality, which is 11 million syrians who have been pushed out of their homes. Only 3 has so far decided to come to europe. Its in the interest of the serious people and all of us to do everything we can to make sure as many people as possible stay in the neighboring countries and refugee camps and return to syria. Britain has led the way funding refugee camps, jordan and will continue to go on doing that. They will go on to the excellent work theyve done in a number of oxford organization with the dangers of taking children further away from their parents. Those that have arrived in europe currently safe. The ones in the refugee camps, lebanon and jordan can discourage more people from making the journey. They can see britain playing her role, funding refugee camps, and taking 20,000 syrians to welcome into our homes. Its very important indeed and we support that. What about the thousands of children already many, many miles away from their homes who are already in europe but have no home. Surely we can play our part in helping some of those children. I do urge him to reconsider. Planning has to be done for receiving refugees in the camps. Its right he should be meeting with local government. When his Development Plans he should come back to the house. A month is enough time to come back and say how many we will take this year. This is urgent. Can i ask about the situation of child refugees from the camps who will be allowed to come here. They need security and the deportation. Can he assure there will be viable when they turn 18. The reason with these fiveyear humanitarian visas is because you dont have to go through the normal asylum process. The assumption at the end of that if people want to stay they can apply for applications to stay in there would be able to stay. Some may want to go back if theres any settlement. Let me answer other questions. Obviously i will come back on a weekly basis to answer questions and making statements that i will permit to make sure the home secretary and Community Secretary regularly update the house because this is an enormous National Exercise to give warm welcome and im happy to do that. Members want to feed into the process at the offers and ideas from local councils. To the point about children, we will be taking children as we have already including orphans from camps in the region but listening to the advisor to advise advise caution on relocating children and apply that to the children of come to europe as well. They dont tell us not to take children from this camps in europe they are without their parents. I do welcome what he said about not having a threat to deportation over the serial children that do come here. It is right that we dont lose sight of those still make in a perilous across the mediterranean from libya. Our navy has rescued thousands already been important to level a search and rescue is made king. Can you update the house im not . So far was rescued 6,700,000,000,000. It is replaced by hms enterprise but has continued this very good work and will continue in doing this work with allies and others as long as necessary but also using the cut ends. We should be honest and recognize we have to been a case of economic migrants on the african root break the link between people getting on a boat and getting settlement sooner. All the evidence from the migration crises in the past, particularly spain in the Canary Islands need a way of returning people to africa who are leaving for a better life. You cant break the link and an increasing number of people on the perilous journey. Of course we need to find ways of returning people where that is right but weve also got to make sure we stop them drowning at sea and i know he agrees with that. The e. U. Must have a robust and realistic plan. Today the European Commission has announced further steps. The Prime Minister would look at whether there was a need for a special summit of e. U. Leaders. Theres one scheduled for october but if there ever was a late first summit, that time is now. Will he call for one . Im happy to keep this under review. Id does this in the last couple days. The meeting of the ministers will be taking place in a couple days time. This must be a comprehensive approach. If it gone refugees that wont solve the problem sends a message thats a good idea to make that journey is not just my view. I think hes absolutely right. The answer is not quotas. Quotas will play to the hands of those of vulnerable refugees. Of course your pastor reaches of answers for those countries. Britain has done borders and ability to make her own sovereign decisions are approaches to say we are a humanitarian mission within moral conscience but we want a comprehensive approach that puts money in the camps and solve the problems as they returned to season their government in libya. We have to address these issues in britain as a sovereign nation will do just that. This is not just about us as a sovereign nation doing what we can and should. This is about us working together with other countries. The refugee crisis remains a daunting problem which we are all striving to tackle, but we also have to address the underlying causes which are conflicts, Global Inequality and poverty and there are no simple answers but we can only address them working with other countries. The responsibilities we share as well as the threats we face reach across borders in a globalized age. To be british is not to be narrow, inward looking and fearful, but to be strong, confident and proud to reach out and engage with the rest of the world. The government should rise to this challenge of our time and i urge him to do so. I agree with every word of what she said. Britain uniquely amongst countries meet their 2 nader spending target and play a role in defense and security countries and which are 97 gdp. No other country in the world meets those two targets and im proud we do. She talks about the causes of the crisis and shes absolutely right. Particularly the mediterranean crisis is because they have assured others and millions have fled syria and we can do all we can is the moral humanitarian nation of taking people and spending money in helping refugee camps but we have to be part of the International Mind that says we need an approach in syria which has a government look after his people. Some of that will require not just sending money, not just upon the sea but Hard Military force. The last exchange is the most important. We with other countries have more than practical responsibilities. Meeting both the commitment and spending to expand how each helps us deal with the situation in syria. The point i make is defending on aid is vital because you have 11 Million People forced out of their homes. Some remain in syria. Some refugee camps may support and many are looked after and turkey in those countries need our help set the budget which has always been a controversial issue can now see the connection between the money we spend and the National Security would help enforce in the u. K. The point im making is not to change the debate about what happens in syria but we have to keep thinking about the fact there is nothing in the end travelmate isil go away other than a confrontation and we should be clear steps were being degraded and defeated if not just in this countrys interest of civilization more broadly. Thank you, mr. Speaker. The threat level from terrorism is listed as severe in the u. K. And many challenging decisions of the Prime Minister in protecting Public Safety and parliament to consider for months for reestablishment and the Prime Minister explained what role he holds and what role they will fulfill. The honorable gentleman is right that the current level is severe. That means we believe an attack is highly likely. The levels are set independently of government and intelligence and security does work today to see its reestablishment and i hope you will be part of that committee and be able to be briefed in the ways that the members of the committee are briefed. Is there a role for the intelligence and Security Committee with already expanded to do even more to scrutinize the actions of the services and government that may well be the case. Sa announced wouldve happened, what weve done in terms of straight in a country against which we are not current to war is a new departure and its important they are scrutinize. For the Prime Minister to come to the house is the accountability. But to look at these things, im very happy to discuss that with the new chair who i hope will be appointed in the coming days. The Prime Minister talk about the importance of intelligence and Security Committee. We learned this week at a u. K. Policy against terrorism suspects and regions whether its not parliamentary perusal for military action. For the Prime Minister provide relevant information to the taligent and Security Committee said it can conduct a review . Is such a sad im happy to discuss that when their appointment. What i meant to say was elected by members because that is what greatly happens. Im happy to do that. The intelligence and Security Committee cannot be responsible for overseeing Current Operations. The responsibility for Current Operations and the government explain that. I will not subtract her counterterrorism policy to someone else. I take responsibility but it is important after the events have taken place at the highest he can make these investigations. Rebecca powell. [shouting] thank you, mr. Speaker. Over the past week ive been facing severe difficulties in many sectors. These industries are lifeblood in my constituency. Could the Prime Minister give assurances that all aspects are being made to help the industry through this time as far as having been campaigning on the streets to highlight. My honorable friend is right to raise this because Commodity Prices are right across the european union. We let cause in the council in brussels yesterday for urgent action in urgent action and there is a 500 million euro package of measures to help farmers. Weve taken steps to help include and get a fair deal at the supermarket to do more on public procurement and authorities are buying british food and also making sure we look at farmers to give them a better deal at this difficult time. Two weeks ago the work and pensions Secretary Department not only admitted to testimonies , but they also publish data on the desks of people which shows they are four times more likely to die after the secretary of state told them they did not exist. Given the offensive remarks this weeks referring to people without disabilities, when will the Prime Minister take control and respond to be investigated to reaching ministerial . First of all, let me deal directly with the publication of the payday. I promise it would be published in a way never published and is the first one. [shouting we should be clear about what this data shows. It does not show people died as a result of benefits taken away. Listen to the organization full text common i have to say to newspapers have printed the fact and had to retract it. The Fact Checking Organization Says it was widely reported thousands of people died. You should read that before our next billion. [shouting] in 2011 the Prime Minister confirms to the house the prohibition on the tronic monitoring of members of Parliament Still in force. Unfortunately july 24th this year the government and also a complaint from the honorable lady at the wilson doctrine is not legally binding and according to places no obligations. This is clearly inconsistent with this statement in the doctrine into the house today. Ive got nothing to add to comments but im happy to write to the honorable gentleman and set out the position. [shouting] mr. Speaker, the refugee crisis is filled by a complex which in turn is heard in part by the grub worms straight. The u. K. Has supplied weapons in many areas from which people are now seen in yemen and libya. They once again host the largest in the world. Is it time the government recognized the link between the tragedy unfolding around us. We have district has rules anywhere in the world for selling arms to other countries. If she thinks the reason why so many people are fleeing syria is something to do with the arms trade, the fact is because assad is butchered his own people was that a terrorist Organization Running a large part of two countries. Those of the problems we have to confront. [shouting] the u. K. Is a social enterprise and it is about developing prosperity raids across england. Can i ask the Prime Minister when he will see our area stimulate growth and everything. Is a real opportunity to make some decisive steps towards rebalancing our economy and building the powerhouse and a big part of that is the local government and specifically accountable to communities and resources to drive Economic Growth in areas. Weve had over at her to areas making proposals as well as city regions. I very much hope youll be in the vanguard. [shouting] mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister will be aware over 900 people and my constituency with the perception across the industry the u. K. Government has been encouraging and supporting to relocate many jobs. Can i ask what they do to support the markets . Im aware of this issue not this because the local members of parliament in the grimsby area cant see me to talk about this industry. What matters is we dont want being an economy that will attract businesses and growth in jobs and that means keeping inflation down, taxes down i would also argue keeping our country together. S p, my constituent the Diamond Jubilee will next be hosting a job fair which over 130 employers will be added. We have seen the lowest level of their and youth unemployment down by two thirds. Can my right honorable friend had dissemination to finish the job i used unemployment . Im grateful for what my honorable friend is doing and what is happening. What we have seen is employment rise by 2 million the Unemployment Rate for 25 consecutive months. It is not going to get harder as we dig down to those people after the labor market have challenges for getting jobs and we need to work hard to make sure the apprenticeships the trading and help his air. In the Prime Minister tell the houswhether he thinks he has led Public Opinion or followed it . Wouldve done it consistently to be frank, Public Opinion has an always supported the 9. 7 weaker to the gdp aid and in the most difficult of economic circumstances the government led to the worlds forests. Thank you, mr. Speaker. Will the Prime Minister join me in welcoming the chancellors announcement of funding to kickstart improvement and agree with me this is some vital project that will continue Economic Growth and jobs which is Economic Policy already delivering. One of the things that struck me on the many visits ive made to his tissues in the runup to the election is the coastal towns are completely reliant as an absolutely vital artery and thats why its good there is a 3 Million Pounds of funding to develop the case for improvement. We will keep on this because we know how vital the road is. Every year thousands of people of medical emergencies, whether its cardiac arrest every minute without cpr reduces survival chances by 70 . First a true life skill that the majority of teachers and parents of emergency first aid and scored the Prime Minister look closely at my private members bill which aims to do that and make every child a life saver. I will certainly look closely at the bill because the truth is this is the availability of cpr equipment, whether Village Halls or pubs are schools can say many, many lives. Thats why the budget is for buying defibrillators for public space and training in many schools will take advantage of this. Nigel adams. Be aware that new wonders and my constituency or consulting closure that provides 4 of the electricity and the announcement that also it has gotten legal action against the government over changes to the tax regime. The reality is they are taxed out of existence with Power Capacity issues next year. Will the Prime Minister meet with me to discuss the way forward for the industry and people in my constituency whose jobs are under threat. Im very happy to meet with the honorable gentleman. If we have sufficient capacity that is something nice meetings regularly to make sure that is the case. We do have a difficult situation of wanting to see over time a phasing out of unabated coal that needs to happen if we meet our Carbon Emissions but also replacing hole with Renewable Technologies and we need to make sure its affordable and how much we are prepared to add the bill because this has to be paid for. The u. K. Steel industry is facing huge challenges and 25,000 people rely on steel. Will they call the steel summit and take the action necessary to secure its future. Ive discussed this issue before and im sure we will meet and discuss this again. That government can help with the energy bills and with a 35 Million Pounds towards that. Weve also sat out the infrastructure needs of the country so steel consumers can plant or how much needs to be produced and will do everything we can to support this vital industry. [shouting] the constituency advises the changes near the start. What does my right honorable friend see as a successful franchise to continue to offer is good or service is available now and maybe even better. My right honorable friend is right to raise this in the point about the franchise process is to see an improvement in the services. Riccardi spoken about getting rid of the popular Northern England and adding extra welfarism 500 services a day to increase the morning peak capacity and the outdated retired. Is a good program and one we can secure through the franchise. Experts say delivery a civic. How will the Prime Minister get a project back on track and budget by the delivery date of 2018. We are committed all the way. We are making record investments and many of us including members are privileged to be here for the opening of the factory providing the state of our built in japan, but here in the 700 new jobs in the northeast of england. Mr. Speaker, does my right honorable friend recall the debate about syria voices around the chamber argues the area and elsewhere have nothing to do with fascination and all of us. Isnt it clear the failure of western Security Strategy in the middle east and elsewhere is the main driver antennae and doors hiss requirement for full spectrum response to isis in which he considers setting this house and a comprehensive white paper to feed the opinion. First of all, i want to say to the honorable gentleman who should be clear about who is responsible for the refugee crisis in syria. How to play at the door of assad isil today are terrorizing communities and driving people to take to the road and that their country. They are the ones responsible but he makes an important point when we dont involve ourselves in these issues and take difficult decisions, that is a decision in itself and it has consequences and thats a joke we can debate and discuss. As many different ways of presenting information. We do a great job not protected by the education. That means my constituency is, almost 20 of the funding over the last five years is almost 30 . Unlike previous governments wouldve gone a long way to equalize funding between schools. Weve made a lot of progress. [shouting] we are just days away from the worlds Third Largest sporting event, the road the world cup. In addition, will the Prime Minister agree this represents a great Economic Opportunity to my talent would welcome visitors around the world to the birthplace of the games. I certainly look forward to welcome britains bouquets. Im happy to wish clark and what is going to be a compelling contests. This was a gift to the house of commons that the people at disneyland. While we are grateful, we want one of the home nations to win this. Thank you, mr. Speaker. The Prime Minister will be aware that your degrees father went to murder in belfast has escalated to new heights with the arrest today of the chairman in connection with the incident another leading members. Be warned about this earlier this week. With an average sevenpoint and gone beyond the tipping point. The Prime Minister is aware that met the secretary of state this morning. Casey now accept unless he and others take action we are in a state as far as the evolution is concerned and seek government but only those committed gambian government. Does the Prime Minister agree . First of all, i agree we are in a difficult phase of these discussions in Northern Ireland. I obviously cant comment on the Police Operations taking place. But there is no justification for the Power Military organizations in Northern Ireland or anywhere else in our country. There applied to in our society. They should be disbanded on every occasion and on every side. The only thing i would appeal to members and the dep, members who dont take their seats in this house as someone who sat on most pages have watched of the Peace Process was put together in the arrangements in place, it is one of the most inspiring things ive seen to say politicians put aside distance and concerns and things in the past and decide to Work Together in the appeal and make to all of you if please have that spirit in mind. It was an amazing day when he formed the administration will do everything we can to help him. Lets do it again. [shouting] announcer you have been watching Prime Ministers questions. Question time airs live on cspan2 every wednesday at 7 00. Again on sunday 9 00. Watch anytime on cspan. Org, where you can find video of past Prime Ministers questions. Next, cspan interviews with republican candidates George Pataki cant rick santorum. In august, cspans steve scully sat down with gop candidate George Pataki. During the interview, he talked about his life and why he is running for president. The interview is part of a series of conversations with declared candidates, as part of cspans go to the white house coverage. The interview is 35 minutes. From new joining us yorks former governor George Pataki, a 2016 republican candidate. Thank you for being with us. Candidate, thank you for being with us. Gov. Pataki good being on with you. When you first enter this race you said that you could win if voters Pay Attention to you. Are they . Gov. Pataki right now, there is one major distraction focusing the Media Attention but it is early in the process. The honest answer is not yet, but i believe there is a very good chance that they will. Steve how do you get there . What is your method . Willpataki i think people want government that works. Table want a leader is a proven record of being able to bring people together they want a recordwho has a proven of being. Able to bring people together. Record as af my republican in a deep blue state. I grew up on a farm. You learn it is not about the words, it is about what you do. When you look at the words of these candidates about what they have done and what they do, we need a mature leader who has shown they can govern and that would be me. Steve you are a fiscal conservative, but you are prochoice. How will that play out in a republican primary . Gov. Pataki that gets to what i was just saying that it is all words and nothing happens. It has been 42 years since roe v. Wade, and we continually elect prolife republicans but nothing changes. Let me tell you what would change. We would have a permanent ban on funding using taxpayer dollars for abortion. We would defund planned parenthood. I think it is outrageous that they showed such a despicable disregard for life in the marketing and selling of oregons organs of a baby. That is reprehensible. And third, i dont believe i have the right to impose my religious leaf which is that religious belief which is that life begins at conception. We have separation of church and state. There comes a point where it is not religious but science. Weeks wheret 20 science says this is a viable life that can be sustained outside the boom. In that outside the womb. In that sense, what the politics are a could not tell you, but when science says it is a life, you have an obligation to protect it. Steve if president pataki were to appoint a Supreme Court justice, would this be a litmus test issue . Gov. Pataki no litmus test, but the constitution clearly lays out the laws are to be enacted by the elected members of congress by the people not the Supreme Court justices based on what they think is a good policy. I would have Supreme Court justices who believe in the constitution and understand that their role is to interpret the law and not make the law. You passed on this four years ago, but entered earlier this year. What is different today . Gov. Pataki the need for changes that much greater. Americas stature in the world has declined. Our National Security is at risk in a way i have not seen since september 11. Orther it is radical islam an emerging russia. I think our National Security situation is worse, and our economic condition is very fragile. We saw the gyrations in the stock market. We are not having the job growth and the economic recovery. We dont have that sense of optimism in the economy Going Forward that we should have. It all comes down to one thing, a failure of leadership in washington, whether it is the economy or americas standing in the world, we can turn it around. Steve how did a lawyer from peekskill, new york become the mayor of new york outside that city . V. Pataki i went off and become and got a great education, i started at a law form law firm, but it wasnt for me. I wanted to go home. I moved back to our family farm, and ran the farm with the family. I decided that if you like a community, and do not believe in the leadership. You have two options. Sit on the outside and complain or get involved and try to change it. So, i ran. It was a democratic city against a democratic incumbent. That has been the story of my political life. People believed in me and gave me the chance to lead that city. I believe i left it in a better condition than when i took office. Steve how did you win that race . Gov. Pataki hard work. Doortodoor. Not being partisan. In that city, democrats were first, independents were second and republicans were third in and rolled. Third in enrollment. I knew i had to forget about partisan politics and had to have ideas that appealed to them. It is ideas and a vision that appeal across party lines. That was a great lesson for me in my first race and has been a lesson that america could lose could use more of. People should not have this blind, partisan loyalty. Once the elections are over, we are all americans. We will reach out across party lines and govern based on solutions and not partisanship. Steve let me ask you about the farm. The New York Times writing about your appearance regularly in the west village. It is safe to say that you are the only candidate that operates the farmers market, or sells beef at the farmers market. Gov. Pataki i think that is pretty likely. It is something that has been in my blood since i was a little kid. My dad with the horse and wagon selling vegetables from the farm. Now we have the farm way upstate in new york where we raise Grass Fed Beef cattle and market it in new york city. You are connected to the land. It is something tangible, not pushing papers or making money with a stock deal on wall street. You actually grow something, picket, sell it pick it, sell it to a consumer. Steve what makes your beef different . Gov. Pataki [laughter] now you want me to be a marketer . It is grass fed, hormone free, antibiotic. It is good and healthy for you. That is something different. We have a young guy who moves the cattle every day or two on a horse from one attic to another one paddock to another. Farming teaches the value of hard work. It doesnt matter if it is cold out or you are sick. You have to get the job done. He cant cover it up by blaming someone else. It teaches you that words dont matter, that you have to get the job done. It doesnt matter if you claim that you did something, it or you did it or you did not. Mother nature either you did it or you did not. Mother nature can be pretty severe. You think you have things ready to go and the storm comes along. You have to pick yourself up and do it again. It is a great life lesson about hard work and sticking to it regardless of the ups and downs. Of peekskill, new york in the 1980s and then you ran for the state senate. Why . Gov. Pataki i always ran against democratic incumbents. When i was mayor, i thought i did a very good job in getting the city headed in the right direction. It was always so frustrating that so much of the control was from government at a higher level. The state level. Iwanted to change that, so ran and got involved. The assembly was overwhelmingly democratic, so it was hard to get my ideas through. I worked well with the majority and did get some things done. Every republican who wanted to be in the state legislature, wanted to be in the senate because that is the majority. I got there and within a month i hated it. They were more concerned about getting reelected, taking care of the constituents that helped them, then changing the state. We had a very liberal failed State Government at the time. Instead of trying to change it, they accommodated it to get reelected. Within a month or two, i said this isnt for me. I will be in a position where i can change the state or i will get out of politics and do Something Else. Let me ask you about the issue of corruption. There have been a number of lawmakers in new york who have been convicted of influence peddling and taking bribes. Gov. Pataki it is just awful what has happened. We see legislator after legislator indicted and too many convicted. Part of it is that the separation of powers prevents the executive except under rare circumstances, from going after the legislature. When i was there we put in a number of reforms. The commission that went through and recommended a series of reforms to change how executive agencies and authorities functioned. We implemented them all but they would always exempt themselves and it was ultimately the legislature where the vast majority of this corruption has come from. Finally we have prosecutors and press going after it. It is a good thing, it is tragic that it occurred. One of the problems that i see is that legislators stay there 10 years or 30 years. They think the law does not apply to them. Not just albany, but washington, too. Washington passes obamacare and imposes it on every american but exempts himself themselves and their staff. They think the laws dont apply to them. But they do. One thing that i want to change is every law that applies to the American People will apply to congress, too. In late 1994, state senator George Pataki announces that he will run for governor. What did you see that others did not that led to your election . Nobody thought i had a chance. I never raised any money. I was an outcast in the senate because i oppose my own partys nomination of mario cuomo, but i knew that the people wanted to change the direction of the state. I understand that new yorks government was failing at people. We were dead last in jobs, the highest taxes, the worst credit rating. One of every 11 people on welfare. This was failing. We were the most dangerous stay in america. I knew if i could get my message out there, that it was the government failing the people, not the people failing then i could have a chance to be mario,. Mario cuomo. That is why im running for president. People understand that the government is failing us, and they dont like the partisan position of an ideology on either side. I did it in new york and overwhelmingly a democratic state. I know that i can do it in washington as well. Steve in that race, mayor giuliani endorsed Governor Cuomo and not you. What was your reaction . Gov. Pataki it was a shock to me, because he was well known and i was unknown. He said, here is a republican who does not like pataki, he is an extremist. It hurt. But earlier, when you grow up on a farm you think you have the best crop and the hurricane comes along. You pick yourself up and go forward anyway. Thats what we did. That is what he thinks, but here is why i can leave the state and change things. Ultimately i made the case, fought the fight and one. And won. I was way behind in the polls against cuomo. I understand i am way behind in the polls now, but there are a lot of serious issues facing the country. I know i have the ability to resolve those issues, working as a conservative republican but with democrats as well. I hope as it gets closer people will say that pataki is the right guy. Steve in that race, against cuomo, in the last weeks it really began to turn in your favor. What happened . Gov. Pataki hard work. Making the case that yes, mayor giuliani endorsed cuomo, but that did not change the fact that the state was failing the people. He did not have the job you wanted. We were dead last in jobs. I had a positive agenda to change the tax laws and the criminal justice laws, to replace welfare with opportunity. People said yes. Hisont know the sky, but we dont know this guy, but his ideas make sense. I think the state would be grateful because we did manage to change the state completely. Steve after you were elected, what was the conversation like between you and giuliani . Gov. Pataki it was fine. I always thought that if you look back and think, this person did that and that person did the other thing, you will never get things done. It is about the future and governing successfully. He was a very successful mayor in new york. We worked well together as governor and mayor. York, you have the governor and mayor that barely speak to each other and not in civil terms. We Work Together because we had a common agenda and looked to put it behind us. That is what you do in as well. N, it isnot about your ego, about the challenges facing the country. I have always been looking at those Solutions Based instead of what people looked at in the past. Cuomo regarding governor he passed away earlier this year, did it surprise you that he never ran for president . That was one of the things mentioned in the eulogy and obituary. Gov. Pataki it did surprise me. He was the great liberal icon of the democratic party, and had he run he would have had a great deal of support. It is a personal decision and i respect the fact that he made the decision not to run. I also respect the fact that after i beat him, he was extreme a gracious. He never sang, i told you so or look what he is doing. You can have those philosophical disagreements, you can run against each other politically, but ultimately we are all americans. Too often, people in politics forget that. You have to remember that we have different ideas about what the solutions are, but so long as we Work Together, we can put aside those differences and find the Common Ground that you need to go forward successfully. Steve in 1994, you vowed to serve two terms, but ultimately served three. Why . Gov. Pataki we took new york from being the most dangerous state in america to being the fourth safest. We had over one Million People off welfare and onto the employment. We turned around the economic climate. Then the horrible attacks of september 11. Instantaneously through off everything we had been trying to do. Loss, a horrible human which i will never forget. But also an economic catastrophe. Million square feet of office space and one morning. We lost 100,000 jobs in an hour. We lost over 300,000 jobs. People did not want to come to new york. You cannot have all of these businesses concentrated in one geographic area. New york was facing another crisis. You dont walk away from a crisis, you lead through. Lower manhattan today it is one of the most exciting places to be. The memorial is one of the most moving places people can be. Andow have congress rising, the freedom tower. When you have a crisis you do not walk away, you lead through it. Make sure that you lead leave the People Better off than when you started. 2001, on that morning in where were you and at what point did you realize the magnitude . Gov. Pataki i was in the city. My daughter called me and said debt a plane hit the tower and turn on the tv. She was rattled said dad, a plane hit the tower and to turn on the tv. She was rattled. I said it was probably an accident, then the second plane hit the tower and i knew it was an attack. We had to get the Emergency Response system. I called president bush and asked him to shut down the airspace and he had already done it. Then we went to work that day and you can never anticipate it, nobody knew what might happen next. It was a horrible time but a time when you had to put aside the other concerns and to do whatever you could lead to the crisis whatever you could to lead through the crisis. I spoke to mayor giuliani, he had been out of pocket for a few hours because he was trapped under a building when the command center was destroyed. He called back and said i am

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