Transcripts For CSPAN2 Charles Love Race Crazy - BLM 1619 And The Progressive Racism Movement 20221102

Stephanie trussell. I have the pleasure of introducing charles. Love charles love is the executive director of seeking excellence. Im sorry seeking Educational Excellence a nonforprofit Whose Mission is to empower disadvantage students to reach their full potential. He is the host of the charles love show on am 560 the answer he is the cohost of cut the bull podcast charles is a scholar at the 1776 unites contributing writer at city journal and the author of now three books. The latest book race crazy comes out on tuesday. He has been he has his work has been featured in the New York Post real clear politics, newsweek. And on the Rush Limbaugh show. Yeah, he has appeared on fox news newsmax and various radio programs podcasts and local tv shows. He writes frequently on race politics Current Events and cultural. Issues and its passionate about Solutions Rather than political partisan bickering. It is my pleasure to introduce charles love. Hey, stephanie. Thank you. Let me adjust this because i know some say it needs to be louder and i apologize in advance because i speak a little fast. Is that better . Yeah, im a quick talker. Ill try to be slower, but i want to be able to allow you to ask questions and speak at the end. So what i want to do here today is talk about the book why i wrote it what its about who the target audience is and let you ask some questions and talk about that in the end. But before i talk about the book, i want to talk about how i ended up here. So i like many of you were just a regular guy going about my life seeing what was happening, but not really so concerned with it. And i wrote my first book as stephanie mentioned. I wrote three books, but the first one was just more like starting off as a collection of notes. It was after obama had won and my friends were talking a lot about politics and they hadnt done that before but what they were saying and i kind of like a history book this didnt really make sense. So i wrote the book. Its called logic the truth about blacks in the Republican Party, but it wasnt really an endorsement of the Republican Party because i wasnt a republican at the time then i was and now im not again well get to that but so but i wrote it because i said if you are a liberal or you have liberal ideals and you want to vote for democrats because they align with your beliefs you should do that is with this country is about but i didnt understand why they were believing this boogeyman view of republicans like they were out lurking corners in the out to get you so i kind of wrote that to debunk some myths that they were believing and you know sharing amongst themselves about republicans, but then i just went back to my life. I didnt do anything else and then i noticed the culture was shifting in a dramatic fashion, and i said somebody no ones really talking about this the way i think it should be talked about and so i said i got a busy life and wife and kids and a job like anyone else so if im gonna do this i need to be saying something that other people arent saying so i wrote my last book we want equality how the fight for equality gave way to preference and the point was we used to have legitimate fights and the best proof that things are better now is that people are manufacturing fights. Right, so i i take the things that they say and then i would say but is it true and a different approach that i take too, which is really important. I like many conservatives right about what the left does that i disagree with so ill say they say this and this is wrong and i do the same thing, but i dont do it in an attack mode, but beyond that i have a second argument where i say, lets give them their argument. So lets assume youre right. So now you cant debate me because im not seeing you wrong. So we both agree that always erases or the country is, you know, robin black people. Whatever theyre doing police are hunting down black men. So lets assume thats true. And thats just simply ask is what youre doing going to lead to a solution. Its that simple right . So even if youre right, were still in trouble because youre not doing anything. Youre not focused on a solution. You dont talk about a solution. And so that was the point of the book. So i was fortunate after writing a book meeting some people at five sixty got a radio show and i was the odd man out i was talking about cultural when everybody else on the station was talking politics, right and theyre like, well, why are you talking about this . Im i say its important. We all hear that politics is downstream from culture, but were only talking about the downstream right . So i just kept going about my business pushing on and you know, it was fine until 2020. So now George Floyds killed things, you know erupt and its an Election Year and its very partisan. So everybodys even doubling down on the political talk and here i am talking about the culture and when i wrote that book, i think i wrote it in 17. It came out in 18 and i was saying this culture is going to shift further to the left and its going to be incredibly toxic and about races probably in about five or six years is what i thought and to george thing just kind of accelerated it. So i got an opportunity. I had moved to new york. And so i love to show i was on here and i was like, oh, lets see what i do next and Sean Thompson who you all know had the opportunity to sit in for steve cortes because he went to work for trump. So i took over his show the liberty hour now if you ever listen to his show his show is all constitution and politics, you know cigar in one hand and the constitution in the other hand, so i was like, itd be great to do that. I was doing 13 weeks leading up to the election. The Election Year i said, but i like, you know, im building my own idea when my approach i dont want to shift. What do you want me to do . They say well do the show the way you do the show. So here i am stepping in seans highly partisan political shoes, and im talking about the culture. So people were calling in and like well, why are you talking about this race thing . We already know what to do. We got the blueprint either from the Civil Rights Act and the movement right Martin Luther kings words or from the bible. You know, i love the my neighbor as i love myself solves a problem, but my argument was that that makes sense in its logical but youre not dealing with logic. So if youre not talking about race and theyre talking about race you lose the race conversation. Its like politics. Its like the schools. Its like Everything Else if if youre a republican and you wonder why blacks agree with you on certain issues, but they dont vote for you. Its because you dont go to the black community and all they hear is the democrat in that community telling them what you believe and let me tell you it aint good. Right and youre not there to defend yourself. So i just kept going along with the culture and i said this is whats going to happen the other piece because seeking Educational Excellence. We work on education. So i had a lot of guests on talking about how we fixed the problems in education and we talked about an issue whether its discipline, whether its the curriculum whether the kids the country as a whole sliding behind the rest of the world and they would all say i say get to the end. Its about solutions. So what do we do and they all say School Choice and i say wrong. And its not because im not an advocate of two school. I am and what i said was what youre missing and this is where i become president. I said what youre missing. Is that why youre in this fight and the other sides opposing you so its a fight youre fighting to get School Choice and we had to win in illinois. You have wins another places. Youre gonna win all over the country. Youre gonna say yay. We won this thing and youre gonna look up and find out that because you werent paying attention to the culture. Check this out. Youre gonna laugh because this was two years ago where youre gonna find is that those vouchers you get to go to these better schools. Youre going to be sending these this disadvantaged kids to schools that are just as bad at the schools. They were there to clean her theyre safer, but theyre teaching the same toxic ideology that youre trying to get them out of and look at what were doing today. Look at what the main argument is, and now i shouldnt say because its rude, but i told you so so now what so, you know i wrote i was writing about what was going on. George floyd was killed. I wrote an article about this. I think i called it white woteness about white who felt seek for blacks and theyre saying and they were speaking in extreme matters, and it doesnt mean that theyre not issues in the black community. Theyre not racism and races out there who you know think whatever they think or some things in the system that needs to be changed, but they were all absolute. They were like all blacks are being hunted down all blacks are are being shot in the street. All blacks are in the criminal Justice System and theyre wrong. Even if you think theres an issue, so i wrote this article and i was upset at the time. So i just started writing and this one just went viral and they picked it up and then the major newspapers picked it up and Rush Limbaugh. Read it on the show. And so then i said, okay. What is missing . How do i address this . So thats where race crazy came from . I wanted to talk about what i call in the book the Progressive Racism Movement and i always say dont put adjectives in front of the thing because when you put an adjective in front of it you change it right so you cant say social justice if you want justice you just want justice. Why do you need social in front of it . Its justice when you put social in front of its different, but this is kind of a play on that. I say progressive racism when really its just racism, but i call it progressive because in their mind they do the same thing. So the races from 1840 said i am white blacks are inferior. So we must separate them and we all say thats racist. And the guy today says well whites are inherently bad. The whiteness is being centered everywhere and we need to break that up and we need to separate that us the country from that and we need whites to admit that their guilty and own this guilt from 50 years ago. So saying that theyre genetically different is the same thing that the other people were saying. No, no, but its different because our intent is different. Were doing it from a good place. So its not racist. So i say okay fine. Its not racist. Its progressive racism. Thats what it is and i figured the two best examples i can use would be blm and the 1619 project. And blm, i wrote about first and i took the same approach. I said blm is wrong. I write in the book about how its a false premise are there issues . Yes. Are we being hunted down . No are the police just indiscriminately shooting black men. No, can you prove it . Yes, are there black people in jail . Yes, because you complain about mass incarceration. So i say, howd they get there . Because if the Police Wanted to hunt down the black man, the easiest ones to shoot would be the ones who break the law yet somehow they end up in jail. Why are they shot before they get there . Because no ones hunting them is simply not true. Now if you want to fix the problem, this is why its important because how you go about fixing a problem is dependent upon how bad you think the problem is if we think that yeah, we have a problem. Its not, you know taking over the whole country, but it needs to be addressed we can get heads in the room and we can think about what works and we can work on it, but if you think the country is wholly racist and its hunting down black people and killing them for no reason. Of course your solution is going to be the burn the whole system down. So thats why i point out why theyre flawed. But beyond that i know my target audience is really conservative to because i may say i agree with you, but i think you need to try a different approach and actually liberals and i know some conservatives dont agree with me, but i think there is a difference between liberals in the far left. And so liberals dont like republicans. They dont like most people in this room. They dont like your politics they disagree with you. They have a different view of government. However, they love free speech. And they dont like the fact that theyre being called races right now if you dont believe me go look up Brett Weinstein and and bill maher and and look at the things that they are saying, right . Theyre liberals. They didnt politics didnt change. They just like, you know, i was on your side left and now you call it in todays left. Im a racist. Its silly. So we need to talk to them we need and because the media is not on our side. We need more foot soldiers. Its not enough of us physically. Theres many of them. So if they start to go out and speak it, you know, makes it easier because they can talk to an audience that we cant talk to. So to them. I say i give them the argument so all blacks are being hunted. So we agree on that. So lets not, you know debate that what we can do though is say if thats the case. How do we solve it . Because the far left is saying burn it all down. Right, you dont agree with that in the liberals. Like of course not so why dont you join us in solving this cultural slide and this racism and then and its radical left and then, you know we can argue about issues after the fact so thats what i do in the book. So from the 16, i mean from the blm standpoint, i explained what they really believe because thats a george floyd was killed. We had people giving all this money people feel Bad Corporation signed on were gonna give new holidays, were gonna give them all this money and many people saw that and said, this is crazy. Look at how much money they get it and theres a problem. And wheres this money going . Im like we can look for that for days and i explained the book why thats gonna be hard to do kudos to rand paul if he can pull it off, but i doubt it, but and i talk about why in the book but what i say is forget about where the moneys going thats a hard fight. But what we can do is we can go to the people who are giving them money and clearly explain what they believe and say if you believe this after knowing what they believe and you still want to give them money by all mean do it, but i dont think they do like i dont think they know. That for instance the police. You heard the debate between defund the police and people on the right would say thats bad. Itll be itll lead to dangerous neighborhoods. And the people on the left said well, we dont really mean to fund. Thats just a euphemism. We really just mean, you know reallocates resources and give them some support and bring in some some social workers to help them go to domestics not true in their own words. We are abolitionist. We want to abolish all prisons jails immigration detention centers. We dont want police in school. We dont want security guards. We dont want surveillance kind of hard to you know, take those words out of context. But most people dont know that because its not on the blm website when i was doing this research for the book originally it was gonna be like debunking the blm movement finding out what they say, but i couldnt find anything. Anything. Im like, this is weird. So in doing research i found this article about a Group Getting a hundred Million Dollars over five years, but it didnt say blm the article said the headline said blm, but in the article, they didnt talk about it was this organization gives it to this philanthropist which gives it to creates the black lead movement bond, which takes that money and gives it to the movement for black lives. And so i looked up all the organizations and with you if take you take nothing else from this when you leave look up m4bl. Org the movement for black lives. I found it and it was a treasure trove. Its insane. They have acts that they have written that theyre ready to give congress once they move far enough to the left. They have a preamble like a constitution. Its all about, you know, all the things that they believe all the demands that they have and its anticapitalist. Its a reparations for migrants. Its lgbtq gender focuses. I think they use a word that they made up. Im good at it now, but i couldnt read it at first called sis heteropatriarchy. Multiple times in a book we stand behind we push to the front of our movement gay trans lesbian queer queer affirming gender nonconfirming, uh precariously housed cash poor all the stuff, but its not about whether you agree with it or not. You just have to ask is that Police Brutality . Because i thought thats what your movement was about. Right, its simple. So you say that to a liberal you have them read that you know, they might be like oh, so the goal is really baby steps. Stop read this stop giving them money. We work on the rest later. And then the other piece is the 1619 project. And this really bothers me. So again, you know the crt movement and i talk about the only thing i say in the book about crt is why i didnt write about crt. And the reason was mostly that the conversation surrounding that was really starting when i wrote the book, but it still doesnt matter because and im not against that fight chris rupaul writes a blurb on the back. So its not that i say dont have that argument. Theres different ways to attack a problem. But the issue is if you notice you watch the news, what do you hear you hear crt is terrible for our children . Were not teaching to crt. Yes. You are. You dont even know what crt is. We just want to teach black history and then you go nowhere. Right, they cant do that with the 1619 project. So i take three approaches why cr the 1619 project is more important than crt one. No ones going to tell you. Theyre not teaching in schools. The project was written at the end of the summer in 2019 by the fall that was in 4500 schools, dc baltimore and all of chicago had adopted it. So its in the schools. Theyre never theyre bragging about it. Its everywhere. You know, its in the school. So you lose that piece of the argument it falls away. Two in my mind, technically. Im kind of a literal guy. Its worse than crt because crt says, you know race is important and endemic to the country so we cant ignore it. So we have to bring it into the schools and talk about it fairly and let the kids understand what its about. So the country is centered around whiteness and whites control everything. So we need to have that focus and we need to you know, amplify the voices of blacks disagree with it agree with it doesnt matter to one i disagree because they say stuff like we want to teach, you know, culturally relevant pedagogies. That means we need to add culture into every class. So this cultural science thats black math blacks will do better. You want black to do better at math teaches the way they learn it, which is the same as everybody else. So im not saying its not bad. Not saying its not bad now soak that in and contrast it to the 1619 project. The cincy 1619 project was founded to the founding of america. Framing it around when the first black africans were brought here slaves. And what they say is slavery and antiblack racism is endemic to american to america, but for it america could not have been founded and it is in the dna of america. Now what i went to school its been a while, but i thought dna your dna could not be changed that thats your dna so it kind of lends to my logical argument then if its in the dna of the america and im giving you your argument not saying that i agree, but lets assume i agree. Why are we trying to change it . Why are we even fighting what will it do . What good will it do if you tear down the system because its in the dna. Its still there when you rebuild the system guess whats going to be in it . White racism its still there because its in the dna and it makes no sense. But the other thing they say is its about 14 essays that everybody writes at essay on all different topics trying to explain, you know, their problem in the process with the country and why its a problem. And theyre all framed around slavery not racism and what it says is every problem we face in America Today can be directly linked to slavery. Right if blacks black wealth is lower slavery. If education is bad slavery. If more blacks are in jail slavery. Right, so i think that is worse than what crt is pushing and its in the schools and nobodys saying its not right. So what do we do . So in the book i write a chapter on every essay in the 1619 project and i say this is what they say. Oh, i forgot to tell you the third reason why i so dangerous. Its because its mostly true. They do they i have to be honest. Its well written. Its i dont know. I throw a number at the 90 true. So you cant really . Instantly just dispute and say thats not true. So they talk they get they paint wonderful pictures of slavery. Theyd use the individual stories because people love and learn from stories, right it drags them in. So tell a story of about a black man who threw all the racism found the way to make money and the racist whites in his neighborhood killed them just because he was making too much money. He was too uppity look it up. Its gonna be true. The problem is they master the lie of omission and they leave a lot out. So if youre teaching this in school and you go to you know 11th graders who dont know much and this is the first learning and you teach them this and theyre like, let me just check and see if its right. They looked at up that parts true, but they dont know what you left out. They think this is all of america and what will it do . Its gonna make for you know, angry disgrunted citizens who just love hate the country. But what they dont say, so for instance they talk about the founders and they say the founders own slaves. Is that true . But and now Nicole Hannah jones has a book the founder of the project has a book coming out. My book comes out tuesday hers comes out the following tuesday, and i saw a printout of an interview she did and she said in the book. She corrected some of the inaccuracies and she admits. This is another thing. How can you deny it . You cant say im wrong. She said it that she should have been better with her words, and she should have said some and not all some wise and not all thats true. But what she talks about the founders and what i write in the book is so the founders on slaves, but she never said some now. Shes saying that she never said that some of them not only didnt own slaves but were abolitionists. She never talked about abolitionists. They talked about reconstruction. But they mentioned haze. Rather be hayes the oneterm president and the 1876 election and never missing grant the Union General who won the world twoterm president who wrote two civil rights moves including the kkk antique kkk act of 1871. Still mention because they cant be any positives in the project. Other issue there are no positives in the 1619 project. Nothing. Not one. Not one thing. Nothing positive about whites and the only slight positive is blacks made money, and then they killed them. Blacks did this and then they strung us from trees, right . Theres all that imagery, but no one talks about you know, they talk about a couple stories of blacks who has some struggles and their families, but they dont mention booker t, washington or Benjamin Banneker or any of those people forget about what they say about whites. Can you at least give me something good about blacks . And lastly like crt like blm, there are no solutions. Nobody says well all this is bad. So this is what we should do. So you have 14 essays from harvard law grass and attorneys whose argent cases at the supreme court. The edit of the New York Times magazine all these people writing these wonderful essays and nobody even offered a solution. Not one. Nobody talked about how many blacks are in elected office and what they can do to help this suppose that racist system nothing and we think we should be teaching this to kids. Its terrible. So this is a problem with the Progressive Racism Movement. And what i try to approach in the book it is to simply say that. Things arent as bad as youre painting them and if they are youre not doing anything to make them better. So, i think its a great tool to give to your liberal friends if you know because im sure those of you who havent just thrown your hands up and moved away. You kind of getting these heated debates. Dont debate just say read this in fact if theyre really you think theyre really on the on the custom. They wont listen to that. Dont read this but dont i hide it for you dont even read charless words my rebuttals to what they say my explanation of why they shouldnt, you know, believe what they say just read that quotes and thats the other thing to be fair as much as we talk about the media and they are biased theres another piece on tv, especially you only get a small finite amount of time. So people are gonna be like wow, but to be fair, i think everybodys tweeted unfairly in the media. More so on the right, but even nasty pelosi because what happens if nancy says something shell speak for 11 minutes and theyll play at 30 30 second clip right ted cruz to say something. Theyll find that clip play 30 second clip. So what i wanted to do was make sure that i give you enough that you say im not taking it out of context you might two paragraphs of a quote. You might get what they said the research they used in a quote. And they write essays about weird things. So sugars racist. Let me tell you some of the things that are slaves that that linked to slavery sugar. Its right. You ever been caught in a traffic jam whos been calling a traffic. Jam. Thats that segregation and race in slavery. Now really, its interesting not making a house. Oh, heres what i always forget to ask. How many of you have read the project. Often thats the thing. So its in your kid in the kids school your grandkids school. The argument crt on the tv this is factually in the school. Probably 10 15,000 schools and nobodys read it. I am not making this up. So if you dont have time to go and link it and find and get behind new york time pay walls get the book turn to the chapter on whatever essay. I say what they say who the person is. I give their bona fides. I say what they write and ill say they are right about this, but they didnt mention xy capitalism is racist and what i like about that so theyll say american capitalism is brutal and racist this flavors of capitalism now. I thought capitalism was an economic system. What is americans say, so other capitalism is good. But american capitalism is bad. But but they claim that but heres a funny thing these people claim they love the country. Right if you see them in interviews or you look them up. Theyre like no. I love the country. I just want to be theres no way you can love the country and write the things youre right slavery and racism is in the dna. Why would i hate that country . What do you mean you love the country . That country is horrible . Right, it makes no sense. And so, you know, they talk about, you know, people will say well blm is this Marxist Group of this . Whatever. I just think thats too high in the average persons not not really gonna listen to that but to leave you before i open with questions with some hope the best thing we have going for us is people are starting to wake up. They need to read more of what theyre saying, but you know the left has control of the media not even the liberals the liberals have lost the media to the left. So the left controls the medium and thats true, but its kind of a bad and good being here for a radio station, but the problem is and i talk to my friends and family and i get it and i dont know if how youre so active you. We all get caught in what were working on whether is you know abortion or education or criminal justice. We focus on that thing and we dont hear the noise and see whats going on. So what is important for you to understand is this . The country is 330 Million People. Go look it up. Find out how many people whats the most popular show on fox news . Im assuming its tucker. Whos the most popular show on msnbc maddow . Go look up how many viewers they have. Right find your most famous New York Times right on the left or right or whomever your John Mcquarters or your whats the guys name the economist freeman and see how many how many of the circulation of New York Times . My point is were still focus on this. We see how bad it is and were concerned which makes sense. But sometimes you got to take a step back. 330 Million People my guess and i think im conservative. Its 200 Million People dont know whats going on no idea. Dont know what crt is dont know what to say. I used to say theyre just keeping up with the kardashians, but thats too old. So they just watching the real housewives. I and it goes across socioeconomic levels race. I always talk about my brother. Hes been on myself so he doesnt care my brothers in his 50s. Hes a blue Collar Worker didnt graduate college get four kids. Theyre all grown. So he has no kids in school. So i tell him some of the stuff hes like, what are you talking about that either so what do you do i go to work get something to eat. I watch a movie. I dont listen to this stuff. I say you ever heard this no. Hes the people we have to reach but how do we reach them . Then i encourage anymore and then some of the churches works woke so we cant do that. Theyre not watching the media so i can do as much media as i can and i do because i think its important message, but you know, i get on tucker and people like thats a win you were on tucker two million. People saw me. Theres nothing im trying to reach 330 Million People. So you have to keep doing it, but the real key is you you all have cousins and coworkers and you get in ubers and you go to starbucks. Well, maybe thats something you go get coffee, right so i always tell people whenever i talk to people get a chance to talk to people. Talk to everyone. But thats why i use my guy now when you talk to conservatives you can get all those that like, i dont write anything political gonna put i dont think i mentioned democrat at all. Dont mention republican. I think i mentioned trump once but its in an ancillary way because thats just the goal. So use that method when you do whatever you do with the service, but when youre talking the liberals are just random people you just got just questions just play be like i write new books. They say be like columbo just be like, well, you know, just one more question. I just dont understand. Let me just let me ask you a question here. So you say when you say why is the races you mean all of us . So you mean me and you dont even know me and you so youre racist right . Well then if thats the case, how do you get to speak about races if racism if youre racist, im just trying to understand it. Im just trying to understand not saying youre wrong. Just trying to understand so if you take that april, so what i do is i remember being in a coffee shop once getting some coffee few people in the shop. They got the tv on his local news here in chicago, and i dont know what the topic was, but trump came on the screen, you know, you can read the bottom, but you cant really hear so trump comes on and it was about whatever the hot topic was that day. And so a guy looked at the tv and say crazy, huh, and im like, yeah, man, what do you think . Is he saying trump is crazy or is he saying the topic of people attacking trump is crazy. I dont know lets find out so he says something so lets say he says something antitrump or whatever and i say thats like well trump is doing theres a domestic. Yeah, thats true. But just do agree that you know, i just give it to him right say yeah trump is he hates black . He was a gay does but what do you think about that racism in the school . You think thats okay . Oh, what do you think about whites being the reason that black people, you know rob people or something like, you know, there was a robbery neighbor there was a shootout and five people got shot. Do you think trump had to do with that . You know, and its hard so ive created this little little tiny brand that im trying to grow so i dont talk about politics so i get on a lot of media and most of its cool because theyre talking about whatever my topic is, but sometimes, you know, im pushing the book so ill go on anybody but invites me on so theyll say come on, but we cant just talk about your book. Were timely new so we want to talk about whatever happened to us. So i went on Shannon Bream and it was like we want to talk about the Virginia Election and i and you know, you dont want to turn down i was like love you shannon been on before i want to do im not gonna because me on a panel with a democrat strategist. I am not going to be a republican strategist. So ill come on say no, thats fine. So i just so so i just say what i believe in the way. I believe it without talking about democrats and republicans. Not that i dont have an opinion. But i dont think it helps to get into all that because thats its the cultural problem. Not a political problem. I was on eric bolling and it was after the Police Officer was shot and killed in chicago and we were talking about that. I was on with the fop president and asked him a question goes to me and he turns to me, you know how to do it says so charles Lori Lightfoot. I mean this progressive mayor, shes just crazy. Shes doing a terrible job. What do you think about her being a man . I pivoted because im so good. I was like look. Theres a lot of problems going on a lot of students in chicago, but lets be fair to lori. They were shooting with ron was mayor and they were shooting before rom. This is a cultural problem. So we want to stop the shooting we get focused on lori like that. You like that good. I got to pay it all laurie, but i wasnt giving it because thats not why i was there. So thats how you talk to your liberals. I mean because all your friends and family who dont want to talk to you and dont want you on thanksgiving because you want to jump trump why you talking to them about trump . Thats all that argument is over that you nobody won that argument. Neither side. I want to hear anything good or bad about so just move on to other stuff. So you talk about the issues because we dont talk about issues anymore. Ask your friends and family. What do they think about dont say crt because they dont believe the talking point say its not in schools. Just say do you think that because i go to Parents Group so parents send me stuff for my organization, you know, kind of like whistleblower stuff so i know what theyre doing. So do you think that a 12 year old should be asked his sexual preference. And theyre like no. Its like okay. Do you think an eight year old should be have a form that they can fill out and say what do they want to be called . His names bills. Like i want to be called james and then theres a box he could check and say do you parents know and if he checks . No, they dont tell his parents and they keep the secret from his parents you cool with that all 100 of my liberal friends. They know thats crazy or ill say so heres a good life. This is the last thing im saying to the black community. I talked to my black prince. Were kind of liberally leaning but theyre not left us and they get it what you need to understand it most black people on your side, but they just have that theyre just like well, i i disagree with it like from the race thing. Its of course, its silly to call white people racist, but you know, we had to go through some unfair and if the worst it is that theyre being called racist. Its no big deal. So they agree with you, but then ill pick up a sign and go fight with you. But the gender thing they will fight for for one thing and from the race standpoint the one thing they will say what you want is when i tell them this so do you think all white so racist . No, so why is you say anything . Not my fight . Okay. Lets talk about that culturally relevant pedagozy. So do you agree with the fact that they say blacks can only learn math the way they learn math or i tell my friends talking my friend from high school the other day. Hes like thats ridiculous. I told him about the music thing and they were saying that, you know, get rid of shakespeare all this kind of stuff. No bog, no Classical Music and all that kind of stuff and they want to take that away because blacks cant really learn culture unless you unless they can relate to it. So lets use jay z and stuff. He was like what thats crazy. He said not only is it crazy and its not gonna help their vocabulary. Its not gonna help them excel. Its all so racist because you all still get to learn if youre white. You still get to read shakespeare. I just dont get to read it. My kids dont get to read it. So you putting us at a deficit so you get to learn stuff that i dont get to learn. How is that equality . Oh, they dont want equality more. They want equity. Yeah, its not a yeah, and then you guys talk about the d. I think what does equity mean versus equality. So if you approach it that way, i think that you will get more people on your side. Our army will get bigger and then we can fight about issues later. So that is all i have and if you all have any questions, let me know. I wont answer that question any other questions they didnt hear you. Okay . Oh, i dont know. What about the ones in the front walk around . Oh, he said that he has a mic so they can actually hear your question. And as you want to talk loud, he has a mic for you. You just got to go step right by the table. Its a short walk. Oh, you didnt want to line up. Yeah. There you go. You can all just get it get in line one, sir. Kind sir question asking sir. Hello. Wow, im tall back here. Im not sure the name of it, but wasnt there a 16 20 project that tried to come up and and refute some of the 1619. Theres a lot of things there is a guide for 767 1776. Bob woodson group. Im one of the scholars theyre glenn larry and will riley and John Mcwhorter and all them. Yeah, so we do that but there was a theres a nas had a a whole thing about it. I got a friend whos writing a book next year about it. So lets start to push back about but we lost the fight. No one stop trying to bring it back up again. Nobodys talking about it because theyre arguing crt, but theres some out there, but itd be interesting to see what Nicole Hannah jones says in this new book because she says shes fixed some things. Did she fix the racism because if there doesnt matter. Hi charles, i want im dr. Yeriks dr. White. I just wanted to tell you i do agree with you. I think theres a big difference between the left and liberals. I think actually that we actually as you know, i ran for United States congress against a white supremacist. So, you know, you know who i am. So anyway, my point is is that i think we need to actually unite unite actually liberals within in prolife liberals. Especially we need to actually, you know, get out there and get the undecided get the independence, you know, get the you know, and and also the libertarians and i think we need to actually go ahead and unite that i think thats a possible. I mean the left is americas deadliest virus because i left spreads lives and the left kills our freedom your point your point of view. Well, thank you, but i will say i got a question you say you ran. A white supremacist, so im assuming i was a Junior High School Elementary School parent. No because you know there was that yeah. Yeah, right, right. Oh anyway, no arthur joness name. You dont talk. Things like that. But anyway, but thank you very much for what you doing something else. Thank you. Hey, berlin. How you doing . Look charles. You are you too. Well, i want to ask you when you took a pass on that question about Lori Lightfoot and the crime in the urban communities. You dont believe that her policies and kim fox policies contribute to the violence thats happening in our communities and with those policies in place like the police not be being able to do a foot change or stop people for a minor infraction that may lead to a bigger infraction. It may have doping the trunk, but they had to pull them over for an expired play. They cant do that anymore. So you dont believe that those policies contribute to the violence and if you dont how do we help these urban communities . Youre like if you dont whats wrong with you right now. Im not saying that that i dont believe that any of the issues that i mean. Im sure they i you know their issues that she has that i agree with and thumb that i dont and and thats the case and but a lot of that is more fox of course, but beyond that its true, but you know, im speaking to a National Audience and im thinking about everywhere right . So every state and every city doesnt have the same policies. Some of them are pushing like in new york. I wrote an article about the problem with eliminating qualified immunity in the american mind, so i wrote about it openly said, but i dont think attacking people is gonna solve it so i dont have to say loris bad. I can say letting people out of jail is bad because i want to change the folks. I dont want the focus to be that but because with loris gone and somebody elses mayor, you know is anything gonna be different we could think about it. We said the same thing about rom right wrong was bad. We were like rob is bad and now people saying this ones worse because change is not always the solution right . Well, he didnt put put forth policies like this mirror. This mayor is an object failure and shes putting polic. That we follow and the police have to follow and they cant serve and protect if they cant if they cant stop criminals, right, but youre asking you but thats too. Youre arguing. What is part of the problem because it makes it easier for a criminals. Are they get back on the street fast, or they dont get arrested at all. I got personal story about that for chicago for sure, but beyond that im saying if you want to solve the problem, you cant solve it at the policing level. You got to solve it at what i mean. You still need to like a violent criminals 100 but you need to want you need to figure out why its happening and thats not lori life, but why is happening why people why the culture has got dissolved to a place in the black community where we dont necessarily condone it, but we dont speak out against it, right . We talk about snitches getting stitches or we say, you know, i dont trust the police so i dont support them or we say things like well, its not really their fault. Thats far worse than any policy because were saying its okay, and were allowing it to happen, but she plays footsie with black lives matter go away. Im not gonna spend the rest of my time talking like no, im in trouble, but lauries great. Haha. Hello. Good morning. Hes got to help you out. Thats okay. Thank you. Okay. Im not. Parent okay never had kids but you know people with kids you can talk to them. Absolutely. Okay . Yeah. I know i missed out on a lot of good stuff, but boy some of the stuff i hear im glad im out of parent. Shes got i want to know what are they teaching because they were tearing down or defacing a statue of Abraham Lincoln because he was a slave owner. Bank, and then theyre not teaching cursive. Okay, thats fine. But i heard and i dont know if this is true, maybe some of the parents can speak out that theyre not teaching civics or government when i was in eighth grade. I couldnt graduate from now. Im 70 years old when i was in eighth grade. I couldnt graduate unless i passed civics when i was in high school. I took government in Summer School because then id have two chances to pass it because i wanted to graduate and if i flunked it in Summer School, id have another chance. And then what they are making available to some people now its not required reading but there are books in the library declare. Pornography pornography and the last thing i want to say is i am not criticizing people that are transgender. I dont understand it and you know what . I dont think some of them understand it either but theres a guy in the radio one day thats is proponent of transgender and lets you know, lets make sure these people have their rights after all. Ive got a transgender threeyearold. And im like, oh, oh my gosh, thats important. As i got time. Lets take me about a minute and a half to do that. So i remember more because oh i remember so its i like to do brought that up because i didnt get a chance to mention that one. Im not 70 and i had to learn civics before i graduate. Okay, they are still teaching government though, but the civic speeds actually i partnered with amity slaves at the Cougars Foundation and were doing a Civics Initiative next week. Ill be in dc where were bringing kids to dc to to give them a its like a contest so that the best ones get to flown out to dc. They get prizes they get a tour to kind of incentivize people because we got to do it outside the schools that we got to work on two prongs, right . So we have to fix the school so they bring it back but until that happens we still need to get it in this you write about that. What was the second piece . I know what the third piece what was the second one . You wrote it down. No, that was the last what did they teaching . Oh, what did i teach him right like cursive and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. So the the problem with what theyre teaching. Is that like like we spoke about earlier. Theyre teaching math english all the same things, but theyre infusing culture and everything so we have to teach science in a certain way and we have to teach all this stuff as a certain way, but we know certain people arent learning a grade level anyway, so were not focusing on bringing them up to grade level, which is a problem, but the the trans thing and the genderqueer thing thats funny too because oh you mentioned Abraham Lincoln . Ill get that. But its funny. Its because remember a year and a half ago. About a year ago. They started removing books, right . They were like we cant teach huck finn because you know of words that were in there that are divisive. We cant really to kill a mockingbird, right you take that out, but they replacing them with this so we cant say certain words, but we can have these visuals and this is like the crt argument though. They get around that but theyll say like you said theyll say thats not in the correct. Show me a curriculum that says they can read this trans stuff. Its not but you put in a library and you put it in the class and the book is open and its on a certain page and you know you promoting it, you know rent in, you know loan out any book you want get genderqueer for free. So, you know, its kind of like theyre pushing it right so but its not in the curriculum so i dont have the whole curriculum argument about whether youre teaching or not. But its there. We know its there but like what theyre teaching the teaching the examples i gave you theyre asking kids. So youve all heard the gabby clark story the woman in novato whose son. Shes suing the federal government because her son was told to pick whether he was an oppressor or presence. So she was on my and shes talking about that and shes telling us the story. Shes talking about race and just as in the past again, ask my son to do this whatever and they said he had to identify either as an oppressor or express and this that the other and hes half white whatever and then as an aside and then they asked him what a sexual preference was. I said stop. Time out youre bearing the lead. Ive seen you i brought you here because you make a National News about this story on race and nobodys asked you about the fact that they asked your 17 year old who he likes. Why are you even asking that it makes no sense and to the trans thing listen to my show the charles love show him 560 the answer you go find the podcast and go back. I interviewed a trans woman about the movement and one of the things i asked was do whatever you want. Thats fine. But why are we moving helen or and changing legislation for you know less than 1 of the population cant we protect their rights without you know forcing it this on everybody what i havent, you know, all these factchecking things without creating new laws without putting it in the schools. So the fact that people are that trans kids even even gina was saying stop even gina was saying whatever youre doing. I dont think you should be telling kids at three four five six years old that theyre trans are writing the book about the article how they were saying we call them babies now instead of babies and let them pick their gender you think but think about it you think liberals agree with that . No, this is another reason why you need to talk to them. Thank you. Okay, just i just want to say one more thing. You said something about not taking things out of context or make sure you listen to the everything that the person said right . Im sorry, but the day that Nancy Pelosis held up obamacare and said we passed it now we can read it. I mean, thats the end of it. I dont want to hear anything from that woman. I didnt have to hear the rest of her speech. Hi charles. Hello. First of all, i just want to tell you that was a great presentation and wanted. Of the things that im you really struck me about was when you said that, you know blacks cant learn shakespeare and they cant learn Classical Music. So thats racist. Yeah, and i just wanted to tell you about a corporation that i know of where theyre instituting Racial Equity program and one of the officers says we need to give our black employees a box to stand on. So that they can see over the fence like the rest of us. I love that picture makes me yeah, you know what i said the first time i saw the picture theyre like, you know, yeah the three different boxes. So they feel the first thing i say when i say instantly somebody said, what do you think of this . Im like, i want to know why the hell theyre still in the baseball game. Tell those vagrants to go get a ticket. Gonna be really reality. Theyre leaving out some of the people so theres three people one on the ground two on the box, but theres 10,000 people in the stadium, arent they people too . So i think you know that lets focus on these three, its madness. Im sorry. Go ahead. No, thats okay my own my only question to you is is dont blacks find that insulting. Yes. So leave the message. They should be in this upheaval. Yeah, but the media is telling them. Yeah that i mean i have friends that openly say i dont like democrats but my option is the devil so i dont want to get shot in the face by the races so i go with them so it is and if nobody and to be fair to them, it sounds silly, but all they ever think about on the reverse and i agree with them because they converge im a white kid grew up in a majority white town. All my friends are white my parents. Dont say anything about race positive or negative. Right and i turn on the tv and all i see are not today. Lets think about when i was young so, you know, you got all the blacks on tv are playing drug addicts and and pimps and all the stuff you watch the news. Theyre perp walking blacks after black after black into prison and then you watch movies in this late movies. Why would not think that that must be the condition of blacks on a normal basis . So its the reverse is true if i dont know many white people, i grew up in a black neighborhood in every white whos coming through. My neighborhood is telling me how bad the republicans are and you dont come say no. Im not let me show you what im really doing then i assume it must be true. Got due to work unfortunately. Well, thank you. Thank you. Hello charles. Im the republican precinct committee. Im very sorry that youve left the Republican Party. Im a republican precinct commitment of precinct 81 and wild township. Its got a lot of really pretty houses. And in front of some of these houses there are black lives matter signs. And there is im asking you this. How do i reach those people or you know why you dont they giving you a sign not to talk to me . Im not lets be ready to talk to. Left wasted seven minutes talking to that guy. No, no you actually you should not gonna go and say thank you now. I know not to waste my time with you bumper stick is honest and no im not telling you to talk to the left. Im telling you talk to liberals and people who are politically agnostic one more question because i dont want to go over theyre gonna yell at me. Yeah. Well talk after anybody elses out there. Im here signing all the books. Youre gonna buy but go charles the the question or maybe the issue i think maybe you should address and i dont know that its addressed enough. It seems like the attack is on the white culture, you know, this white evil culture now, i know when i was a kid, you know, thered be some millionaire and my mom would say you could be a millionaire to you lazy bum if you didnt get off your behind, you know, if you get off your behind, you know, and to me its like hold on a second. That guy successful dont i want to do what hes doing dont want to have a family and get married and and get a job and you know, oh he built cultural wealth. And you know, my folks came over on you know, my group ancestors came over smelling a diesel oil from the hole that a ship or coal or whatever it was. You know, they came with nothing they built past a little more on to their family. I mean it to me that should be the issue that stressed. Hey, those guys are successful. Lets keep doing that. I might be when i feel about my parents when i was little but me and my friends would see a guy in a fancy guy go by. Oh, i wonder what he does. I want to do that. I want to be successful and now people go buy the fantastic guys. Like who did he steal that from what he do . Yeah. Hey capitalism and all that kind of stuff, but i think its bigger than that. Its not just should we learn from the rich guy . I say that whatever you assuming giving them their argument all white to races, but if were gonna fix the problem and theyre over 60 of the population shouldnt they be at a table . Its the problem with the defund the police people. They dont want police other people who represent them at the table. So were gonna fix policing. But no one whos actually policed gets to talk, but ones that know what when you come up with a crazy idea because theres somebody i mean me you if we never done it. We think what about trying this and it might be the dumbest thing that would never work, but weve never done it. Theyll say you cant do that. Let me tell you why i didnt even think about that, but theyre not in the room to explain that so well have cops, you know with throwing marshmallows at people like stop that stop thief and then trying to hit them with marshmallows because we didnt know marshmallows wouldnt stop crying. All right, really last one really really go. I i just have a comment. My name is dawn i got this our sixth year coming to the Freedom Summit and these are our two youngest in the front with we used to homeschool because we didnt like what was being taught in school, but we sent some of our kids to public school. Can yall hear me by the way, just fine. Yeah, and its really important like we would just have dinner time like at least three or four times a week and we will talk about what we believe politically and religiously things like that. Our kids have told us and their teachers are say im so glad your kids are here in school because theyre the only one of 30 students that speak up for the other side. So im just here want to make a comment about how important it is to talk to your kids and so that they can defend what they believe so that theyre not put down by peer pressure. So thats the best thing to leave on dont leave the kids in the school and think theyre the parent. Theyre gonna do everything you have to teach them as well. Thank you