Transcripts For CSPAN2 Simulcast 20240628
We are live from georgia a key battleground estate in the race for the white house. In just moments, the current u. S. President will debate the former u. S. President as their partys presumptive nominees, first in American History. We want to welcome our viewers in the United States and around the world to our studios in atlanta. This is the cnn president ial debate. This debate is being produced by cnn and is coming to you live on cnn, cnn international, cnn. Com, cnn max and s daniel. This is a Pivotal Moment between President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump in their rematch for the nations highest office. Each will make his case. The American People with just over four months until election day. Good evening im dana bash and coanchor of state of the union. Im jake tapper, anger of the lead and coanchor of state of the union. Dana and i will comoderate. Our job is to facilitate the debate between the two candidates tonight. Before we introduce then we want to share the rules of the debate. Former President Trump will be on the left side of the screen, President Biden will be on the right. A coin toss will determine their position. Each candidate will have two minutes to answer a question and one minute each for responses and rebuttals. An additional minute for clarifying response is that the moderators discussion. When its time for the candidates to speak, his microphone will be turned on and the opponents microphone will be turned off. Should the candidates interrupt when his microphone is muted, it will be difficult to understand for the viewers at home. At the end of the debate, each candidate will get two minutes for a closing statement. There is no studio audience tonight. Pre written notes, props or contact with Campaign Staff are not permitted to during the debate. By accepting our invitation, both candidates and their campaign agreed to accept these rules. Now please welcome the 46th president of the United States, joe biden. And please welcome the 45th president of the United States, donald trump. Gentlemen, thanks for being here. Lets begin the debate and start with of the issue voters consistently say is their top concern, the economy. President biden, inflation has slowed but prices remain high. Since you took office the price of essentials has increased. For example a basket of groceries that cost 100 then now cost more than 120. And a typical home prices have jumped more than 30 . What do you say to voters who feel they are worse off under your presidency then they were than they wereunder president t . You have to take a look at what was left when i became president , what mr. Trump left me. We had an economy in freefall and so badly handled. Many people were dying and all he said is its not that serious. Inject a little bleach into your arm. Youll be alright. The economy collapsed. The Unemployment Rate rose to 15 . It was terrible. So what we had to try to do is put things back together again. That is exactly what we began to demand created 15,000 new jobs and brought a position where we have 8,000 new manufacturing jobs. But theres more to be done. The working class people are still in trouble. I come from scranton, pennsylvania. A household where at the Kitchen Table things were not able to be met wasnt a problem. The price of eggs, gas, price of housing, all things. Thats why im working so hard to make sure i deal with those problems, and we are going to make sure to reduce the price of housing. We are going to make sure we build 2 million new units and cap randy so corporate greed cant take over. The combination of the corporate greed is the reason we are in this problem right now. In addition to that, we are in a situation where if you take a look at all that was done in this administration, he didnt do much at all. By the time he left, things were in chaos, literally chaos. So we put things back together and created jobs and made sure we had a situation where we now put down the price of prescription drugs, which is a major issue for many people. Fifteen dollars for an insulin shot as opposed to 400. No senior has to pay more than 200 for any or all drugs beginning of next year. The situation we are going to make that available to everybody, all americans. We are working to bring down the prize around the Kitchen Table and thats what we are going to get done. Thank you. President trump. We had the greatest economy in the history. Weve never done so well. Everybody was amazed by it and other countries were copying us. We got hit with covid, and what we did we spend the money necessary so we wouldnt end up in a great depression, the likes of which we had in 1929. By the time we finished we did a great job and had a lot of credit for the military and no wars and so many other things and everything was good. We should have credit for getting us out of that covid mess. He created of mandates that wasa disaster for the country. We have given back a country where the stock market was higher than pre covid and nobody thought that was even possible. The only jobs he created are for Illegal Immigrants and bounce back jobs, bounce back from covid. Hes not done a good a job. He did a poor job and inflation is killing our country. Its absolutely killing us. Thank you. President biden. The greatest economy in the world, hes the only one that thinks that. I dont know anyone else that thinks he had the greatest economy in the world. The fact of the matter is we pride ourselves on the situation where his economy, he rewarded the wealthy. He had the largest tax cut in history, 2 trillion. He raised the deficit larger than any president has in any one term. The only president other than Herbert Hoover that has lost more jobs than he had when he began, since Herbert Hoover. The idea that he did something significant, and the military you know, when he was president , they were still over killing people in afghanistan and he didnt do anything about that. When he was president , we didnt have a notion we are a safe country. The truth is im the only president this century that doesnt come of this decade, that doesnt have any troops abiding anywhere in the world like he did. President trump, i want to follow up if i can are you going to let me respond to him . You can do whatever you want with of the minute we give you. You want to impose a 10 tariff on all goods coming into the u. S. How will you ensure that doesnt drive Prices Higher . Not going to drive them higher, just drive the countries ripping us off for years like china and many others in all fairness to china, forced to pay more money, reduce the deficit tremendously and give us a lot of power for other things. But he made a statement the only thing he was right about his i gave you the largest tax cut in history. I also gave you the largest regulation cut in history. Thats why we had all the jobs and the jobs went down and bounced back and hes taking credit for that. You can do that. He also said he inherited 9 inflation, no, he inherited almost no inflation and it stayed that way for 15 months and then it blew up under his leadership because they spent money like a bunch of people that didnt know what they were doing and they dont know what they are doing. It was probably the Worst Administration in history. And as far as afghanistan is concerned, i was getting out of afghanistan but getting out with dignity, with strength, power. He got out and it was the most embarrassing day in the history of our countrys life. President trump, over the last eight years under both administrations the debtor soared to record highs and according to a nonpartisan analysis, your administration approved 8. 4 million while so far President Biden, youve approved 4. 3 million. Former President Trump, many tax cuts are set to expire next year. You want to extend them and go even further. With the u. S. Facing deficits and record debt, why should top earners and corporations pay even less in taxes than they do now . Because the tax cuts spurred the greatest economies weve seen prior to covid and even after covid it was so strong we were able to get through covid better than just about any other country but we spurred that. When we cut the taxes, as an example the Corporate Tax was cut down to 21 to 39 , plus beyond that. We took in more revenue with much less tax, and companies were bringing back trillions of dollars back into the country. The country was going like never before and we were ready to start paying down debt and using the liquid gold right under our feet, the oil and gas right under our feet. We were going to have something nobody else has had. We got hit with covid, we did a lot to fix it. I gave him an unbelievable situation with all of the therapeutics and all the things we came up with. We gave him something great. Remember, more people died under his Administration Even though we had largely fixed it. More people died under his administration van our administration and we were right in the middle of it, something a lot of people dont like to talk about it but he had a far more people dying in his administration. He did the mandate which is a disaster, mandating it. When the vaccine went out he did a mandate on the vaccine, which is the things people most objected to about the vaccine, and he did a poor job, a very poor job. And i will tell you not only poor they are but throughout the entire world would no longer respect as a country. They dont respect our leadership, they dont respect the United States anymore. We are like a third world between weaponization of his election was trying to go after his political opponents. All the things hes done, weve become like a third world nation and its a shame. The damage hes done to our country and id love to ask him and well, why he allowed millions of people to come here from prison, jail and Mental Institutions, to come into our country and destroy our country. President trump, we will get to immigration later in this block. President biden, i want to give you an opportunity to respond to the question at the national debt. He had the Largest National debt of any president in a fouryear period, number one. Number two, it benefited the very wealthy. For example, we had a thousand trillion acres in america, i mean, billionaires in america and whats happening . They are in a situation theres 8. 2 in taxes. If they paid 24 , 25 , either of those, they would raise 500 million, billion dollars i should say, in a ten year period. We would be able to help make sure that all the things we need to do, child care, elderly care, making sure we continue to strengthen our healthcare system, making sure we are able to make every single solitary person eligible in dealing with everything we have to do with look, if we finally beat medicare thank you, President Biden. President trump. Hes right, he did beat medicated to death and hes destroying medicare because all these people are coming in and putting him on medicare and putting him on Social Security. They are going to destroy Social Security. This man is going to singlehandedly destroy Social Security. Millions and millions of people coming in, trying to put them on Social Security. He will wipe out Social Security. He will wipe out medicare. So he was right in the way you finished the sentence and its a shame whats happened to our country in the last four years is not to be believed. Foreign countries have friends with a lot of people. They cant believe whats happened to the United States of america. We are no longer respected. They dont like us. We give them everything they want and they think we are stupid. They think we are very stupid people. What we are doing for other countries and they do nothing for us. What this man has done is absolutely criminal. Thank you, President Trump. Dana . This is the first president ial election since the Supreme Court overturned roe v wade. This morning the court ruled on yet another abortion case, temporarily allowing emergency abortions to continue in idaho. Despite the states restrictive ban. Former President Trump, you take credit for the decision to overturn roe v wade, which returned the issue of abortion to the states. However, the federal government still plays a role in whether or not women have access to abortion pills. They are used in about two thirds of all abortions. As president , would you block abortion medication . First of all, the Supreme Court just approved the abortion pill, and i agree with of the decision to have done that and i will not block it. And if you look at this whole question that youre asking, complex but not really complex. Fiftyone years ago, youve got roe v wade and everybody wanted to get it back to the states, everybody without exception. Democrats, republicans, liberals, conservatives. Everybody wanted it back. Religious leaders. And what i did is put three great Supreme Court justices on the court, and they have and to vote in favor of killing roe v wade and moving it back to the states. This is something that everybody wanted. Now ten years ago or so they started talking about how many weeks and how many this and getting into other things, but every legal scholar throughout the world, the most respected wanted it but back to the states. I did that. Now the states are working it out. If you look at ohio, it was a decision that was an end result that was a little bit more liberal than you would have thought. Kansas i would say the same thing. Texas is different, florida is different. But they are all making their own decisions right now. And right now the states control it. Thats the vote of the people. Like ronald reagan, ill be leaving the exceptions. Im a person that believes, and frankly i think its important to be leaving the exception some people you have to follow your heart, some people dont believe in that but i believe in the exceptions for rape, incest and the life of the mother. I think its very important. Some people dont. Follow your heart, but you have to get elected also and because that has to do with other things, you have to get elected. The problem they have is they are radical because they will take the life of a child in the easement, ninth monday and even after birth, after birth if you look at the former governor of virginia, he was willing to do this. He said we will put the baby aside and determine what we do with the baby meaning we will kill the baby. What happened is we brought it back to the states and the country is now coming together on this issue. Its been a great thing. Thank you. President biden. Its been a terrible thing what youve done. The fact is the vast majority of the scholars supported roe when it was decided. And thats this idea that they were all against it is ridiculous. And this is the guy that said that the states should be able to have it. A state where into six weeks you dont even know if youre pregnant or not but you cannot see a doctor and have him decide on what your circumstances are when you need help. The idea that states are able to do this is like saying we are going to return civil rights back to the states, let each state have a different rule. Theres so many young women that have been, including a young woman who was just murdered and he went to the funeral and the idea that she was murdered by an immigrant coming in. They talk about that. But heres the deal, theres a lot of young women raped by their inlaws, by their spouses, brothers and sisters, just its ridiculous and they can do nothing about it. They tried to arrest them when they cross state lines thank you. Thereve been many young women murdered by the same people he allows to come across our border. We have a border thats the most dangerous place anywhere in the world, consider the most dangerous place anywhere in the world and he opened it up into these killers are coming into our country and they are raping and killing women and its a terrible thing. As far as the abortion is concerned its now back with the states, the states are voting and in many cases its frankly a very liberal decision in many cases it is the opposite. But they are voting, and its bringing it back to the vote of the people, which is what everybody wanted including the founders, if they knew about this issue, which frankly they didnt. But everybody wanted it brought back. Ronald reagan wanted it brought back. He wasnt able to get it. Everybody wanted it brought back, and many president s have tried to get it back. I was the one to do it and again, this gives the vote of the people, and that is where they wanted it. Every legal scholar wanted it that way. Staying on the topic of abortion, President Biden, seven states, i will let you do that this is the same topic, seven states had no legal restrictions on how far into a pregnancy a woman can obtain an abortion. Do you support any legal limits on how late a woman should be able to terminate pregnancy . I support roe v wade. Theres three trimesters. The first time, between a woman and a doctor, second time between a doctor and an extreme situation. The third time between the doctor, i mean, between the woman and the state. The idea that the politicians, that the founders want the politicians to be the ones making a decision about a Womans Health is ridiculous. No politician is making that decision. A dr. Should be making that decision. Thats how it should be done. Thats what we are going to do it if im elected im going to restore roe v wade. So that means he can take the life of the baby in the ninth month and even after birth because some states, democrat run, take it after birth. Again, the former governor of virginia put the baby down, then we will decide what to do with it. So, he is willing to, as we say, ripped the baby out of the womb and the ninth month and kill the baby . Nobody wants that to happen. Democrat or republican, nobody wants it to happen. That is simply not true. Roe v wade does not provide for that. Thats not the circumstances. If the womans life is in danger and shes going to die thats the only circumstance. But we are not for lateterm abortion, period, period. Under roe v wade you have a late term abortion. You can do whatever you want depending on the state, you can do whatever you want. We dont think thats a good thing. We think its a radical thing. We think the democrats are the radicals, not the republicans. For 51 years that was the law. Scholars said it was the law. Fiftyone years and was taken away because this guy put a very conservative member on the Supreme Court. He takes credit for taking it away. Whats he going to do, in fact if the republicans he gets elected and control the congress and they pass on the universal ban on abortion, period, across the board at six weeks or seven, eight, ten, something very, very conservative . Is he going to sign the bill . I will veto it, he will sign it. Thank you. Lets turn to immigration and border security. A Record Number of migrants have illegally crossed the southern border on your watch. Overwhelming border states and overburdening cities such as new york into chicago and in some cases causing safety and security concerns. Given that, why should voters trust you to solve this crisis . Because we work very hard to get a bipartisan agreement that not only changes all of that, it made sure that theres no there is nocircumstance where te across the border where the Border Police are now. We increased the number of asylum offices. The Border Patrol endorsed me, and endorsed my position. In addition to that, we find ourselves in a situation where when he was president , he was separating babies from their mothers putting them in cages, making sure the families were separated. Thats not the right way to go. What ive done since i changed the law, i have changed it in a way that now you have a situation where 40 fewer people coming out across the border, its better than when he left office and im going to continue until we get the total ban, the total initiative relative to what we are doing with more Border Patrol and more asylum officers. President trump. I dont know what he said at the end of the sentence. I dont think he knows what he said either. Look, we had the safest border in the history of the country. All he had to do is leave it. He decided to open up our border, open our country to people that are from prisons, people that are from Mental Institutions, insane asylums, terrorists. We have the largest number of terrorists coming into the country right now, terrorists all over the world not just south america, all over the world, from the middle east, everywhere. All over the world they are pulling in. And this guy just left it open and he didnt need legislation. I didnt have legislation. I said close the border. We had the safest border in the history and that final couple of months of my presidency, we had according to Border Patrol and by the way, who endorsed me for president but i want to say that they endorsed me for president , just to speak to them. But look, we had at the safest border in history. Now we have the worst border in history. Theres never been anything like it and people are dying all over the place including the people coming up President Biden . The only terrorist that has done anything across the border is the one that came along and killed and his administration killed three american soldiers, killed three american soldiers. Thats the only terrorist. Im not saying no terrorist ever got through, but the idea they are welcoming these people is simply not true. There is no data to support what he said. Once again, hes exaggerating and lying. President trump, staying on the topic of immigration, you said youre going to carry out, quote, the largest domestic deportation operation in American History, unquote. Does that mean you will deport any undocumented immigrant in america including those that have jobs, including those whose spouses or citizens, and including those whove lived here for decades . And if so, how will you do it . Just one second, he said we killed three people. The people we killed our alibi e greatest terrorists in the world that had a huge impact on everything not just a border, on anything. He is the one that killed people at the border including hundreds of thousands of people dying and also killing our citizens when they come in. We are living right now in a rats nest they are killing our people in new york, california, and in every state in the union because we dont have borders anymore. Every state is now a border and because it is ridiculous, insane and very stupid policies, people are coming and killing our citizens at a level that weve never seen. We call it migrant crimea. I call it biden migrant crime. Killing our citizens at a level weve never seen before and its like these three incredible girls over the last few days, one of them i just spoke to the mother and just had the funeral for this girl, 12yearsold. This is horrible whats taking place. Whats taking place in our country, we are literally an uncivilized country now. He doesnt want it to be. He just doesnt know. He opened the borders, nobodys ever seen anything like and we have to get a lot of these people out and fast because they are going to destroy our country. Take a look at where they are living. We are living in Luxury Hotels in new york city and other places. Our veterans are on the street to dying because he doesnt care about our veterans. He doesnt like the military at all and hes a doesnt care about our veterans. I had the highest Approval Rating for veterans taking care of the va. He has the worst. Hes gotten rid of all the things ive approved. Of all the Different Things that ive approved, they abandon. We had by far the highest and now its down to less than half because hes done all these great things that we did and i think he did it just because i approved it, which is crazy but he has killed so many people at our border by allowing all these people to come in. Its a very sad today in america. President biden, you have the microphone. Every single thing he said is alive. For example, veterans are a hell of a lot better since i passed to the act. 1 million of them now have insurance and their families have it, because what happened when there was agent or range or they were burned because they are all being covered now, and he opposes. We are also in a situation where we have Great Respect for veterans. My son spent a year in iraq and came back with stage four blessed oma. I was recently in france. I went to the world war ii cemetery, world war i cemetery. He was standing with a fourstar general and told me i dont want to go in there theres a bunch of losers into soccers. My son wasnt a loser. That is a madeup. Failing like many of the magazines, he mailed it up, put it in commercials. We had people that said i didnt say that. Who what to say im at a cemetery were talking about our veterans, because nobodys taken better care of. Im so glad this came up and he brought it up. If theres nobody that has taken better care of our soldiers than i had. To think that i would in front of generals and others say that they are suckers and losers and theres people that said it was never said by me. It was made up just like russia was made up and the 51 intelligence agents are made up, just like the new thing with the 16 economists talking, the same thing. Fiftyone intelligence agents said that the laptop was russia disinformation. It was indicated that came from his son, hunter. It wasnt russia disinformation. He made up this suckers and losers, so he should apologize to me right now. A fourstar general was on your staff and said you said it, period. Thats number one. Number two, the idea, the idea that i have to apologize to you for anything along the line, weve done more for veterans than any president in American History. The only obligation we have as a country is to care for our veterans when they come home and their families and equip them when they go to war. Thats what we are doing and with the va is doing now. They are doing more for veterans than ever before in history. Thank you so much. On the topic of Foreign Policy i want to begin with russias war against ukraine, which is now in its third year. Former President Trump, russian president Vladimir Putin says he will only end this war if russia keeps the ukrainian territory it has already claimed and ukraine abandons its bid to join nato. Are putins terms acceptable to you . First of all, our veterans and their soldiers cant stand this guy. They cant stand him. They think hes the worst commanderinchief, if thats what you call him, that weve ever had. They cant stand him so lets get that straight. And they like me more than just about any. Thats based on every single bit of information. As far as russia and ukraine, if we had a real president , a president that was respected by putin, he would have never, he would have never invaded ukraine. A lot of people are dead right now, much more than people know. They talk about numbers. You can double the numbers, may be trouble the numbers. He did nothing to stop it. In fact i think he encouraged russia from going in. He was so bad with afghanistan, it was such a horrible embarrassment, the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country that when putin watched that and hes all the incompetence that he should, you should have fired the generals like i fired the one you mentioned. So hes got no love lost but he should have fired those generals. No general got fired for the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country, afghanistan, where we left billions of dollars of equipment behind. We lost 13 beautiful soldiers, and 38 soldiers were obliterated into by the way we left people behind, and american citizens. When putin saw that he said you know what, i think we are going to go in and maybe i talked to him about it, the differences he never would have invaded ukraine, never just like israel would have never been invaded in a million years by hamas. You know why, because iran was broken. I wouldnt let anybody do business. They ran out of money. They were broke, they left him no money for hamas or anything. Thats why you had no terror at all during my administration. This place the whole world is blowing up under him. President biden . Ive never heard so much malarkey in my whole life. The fact is we are in a situation lets take the last first, iran attacked american troops, caused brain damage for a number of the troops and he did nothing about it. He said they are just headaches thats all it is. He didnt do a thing. Number one. Number two, weve got over 100,000 americans out of afghanistan during that lift. Number three, finding ourselves in the situation where take a look at what trump did in ukraine. He told trump do whatever you want, do whatever you want, and thats exactly what trump did, do whatever you want. Listen to what he said when he went in. We are going to take kiev in five days because its part of the old soviet union. Thats what he wanted to reestablish. And he in fact didnt do it at all and they lost thousands and thousands of troops. Thank you. For one minute i just want to go back to my original question which is our putins terms acceptable to you . Know they are not acceptable, but look this is a war that never should have started if we had a leader in this world he lead everybody along and hes given 200 million now or more to ukraine. 200 billion, that is a lot of money. I dont think theres anything like it. Anytime that zelenskyy comes into the country and walks away with billions is the greatest salesman ever and im not knocking him or anything. The money that we are spending on this war, and we shouldnt be spending, it should have never happened. I will have that war settled between putin and zelenskyy as president elect before i take office on january 20th. I will have it settled. People being killed so needlessly, so stupidly, and i will get it settled and fast before i take office. You have a minute. The fact is putin is a war criminal. Hes killed thousands and thousands of people, and hes made one thing clear he wants to reestablish what was a part of the soviet empire. Thats what he wants and you think he will stop there, do you think he will stop if he takes ukraine . What do you think happens to those nato countries and so if you want a war you want to find out what hes going to do because if in fact he does what he says and walks away, by the way, all that money we give the weapons and not the money at this point and our nato allies produce as much funding for ukraine as we have. Thats why we are strong. Thank you. Moving on to the middle east. In october, hamas attacked israel killing more than a thousand people and taking hundreds of hostages. Among those are five americans. Israels response has killed thousands of palestinians and created a humanitarian crisis in gaza. President biden, you put forward a proposal to resolve this conflict, but so far hamas has not released the remaining hostages and israel is continuing its military effect. So, what additional leverage will you use to get hamas and israel to end the war . You have two minutes. Number one, everybody from the United Nations Security Council straight through to the g7 have endorsed the plan i put forth. Which is three stages. The first is the hostages for the ceasefire. The second ceasefire with additional conditions. The third phase is no the end of the war. No one wants the war to continue with hamas. They are the only one standing out. We are still pushing hard to get them to accept and in the meantime, whats happened in israel the only thing denied was 2,000pound bombs. They dont work very well in populated areas. They kill innocent people. We provide all the weapons they need and when they need them and by the way, im the guy that organized the world against iran with a fullblown Ballistic Missile attack on israel. No one was hurt, we saved israel and are the biggest supporter so there are two Different Things. Hamas cannot be allowed to continue. We send our experience like we got bin laden, you dont have to do it by the way theyve greatly weakened hamas. They should be eliminated. Youve got to be careful for using certain weapons among the population centers. Back to ukraine for one second. We have an ocean separating us. The european nations together have spent 100 billion or maybe more than that, less than us. Why doesnt he call them and as a youve got to put up your money like i did with nato. I put up hundreds of billions of dollars the secretarygeneral of nato said the trump did the most incredible job ive ever seen. They wouldnt have any, they were going out of business spending almost 100 of the money that was paid by us. He didnt do that. Hes getting all, youve got to ask these people to put up the money. Over 100 billion that has a bigger impact on them because of location because we having an ocean in between. As far as israel and hamas, israel is the one that wants to go. The only one that wants to keep going is hamas. Actually israel is the one and you should let them go and finish the job, he doesnt want to do it, hes become like a palestinian but they dont like him because he is a bad palestinian, he is a weak one. President biden, you have a minute. Ive never heard so much foolishness. Hes going to pull out of nato . The idea we have our strength that lies in our alliances as well and if we are able to avoid a major war what happens if in fact you have putin continue to go into nato, we have an article five agreement attack on one is an attack on all. He keeps talking about go ahead, let putin control ukraine and then we will move on to other places. What happens then . He has no idea what hes talking about. And that is 50 other nations around the world to support ukraine including japan and south korea because they understand this has a serious threat to the whole world peace. No major war in europe has been able to be contained just to europe. Just to follow up, would you support the creation of independent Palestinian States in order to achieve peace in the region . I would have to see but before we do that, the problem we have is if we spend all the money, so ive made great trade deals with the european nationals because if you add them up, they are about the same size economically, the economies are about the same size as the United States and they dont want anything that we have but we are supposed to take their cars, their food, their everything of their agriculture. I changed that. But the big thing i would change, the only reason he can play games with nato is because i got them to put up hundreds of billions of dollars. And hes right about this. I said no im not going to support nato if you dont pay. They asked me the question what you guard us against russia in a secret meeting of the 28 states and at that time, nations at that time and they said no if you dont pay, i wont do that and you know what happened, billions of dollars came flowing in the next day and the next month but now we are in the same position paying everybodys bills. Lets turn to the issue of democracy. Former President Trump, i want to ask about january 6, 2021 after you rallied supporters. Some of them stormed the capital to stop the constitutionally mandated counting of electoral votes. As president , you swore an oath to preserve, protect and defend the constitution. What do you say to voters who believe that you violated that oath through your actions and inaction and worry that youll do it again . Let me tell you about januar. On january 6th, we had a great border, nobody coming through, very few. January 6 we were energy independent. We had at the lowest taxes ever, the lowest regulations ever. January 6th we were respected all over the world, all over the world we were respected and then he comes in and we are laughed at like a bunch of stupid people. What happened to the United States reputation under this means leadership is horrible including weaponization, which im sure at some point you will be talking about when he goes after the political opponent because he cant beat them fair and square. You have 80 seconds left. What do you say to the voters who believe that you violated the constitutional oath through actions and inaction january 6, 2021 and worry that youll do it again . I didnt say that to anybody. I sit peacefully and patriotic. Nancy pelosi if you watch the news from two days ago on tape to her daughter that is a documentary filmmaker, no its my responsibility. I was responsible for this. I offered 10,000 soldiers on National Guard and she turned them down in a matter of, in writing by the way, in writing turned it down, the mayor of dc. They turned it down. I could see i had virtually nothing to do, they asked me to go make a speech and i go to see what was happening. Everybody was saying they were going to be there on january 6 and i said thats a lot of people coming. You could feel it and they are going to have a National Guard or whatever and offered it to her and she now admits she turned it down and it was the same day she was, i dont know, he cant be very happy with her daughter because it made him into a liar. I take full response ability for january 6th. President biden . Look, he encourages folks, number one, number two i sat there, he sat there watching for hours being begged by his Vice President in a number of colleagues to do something to call for it to stop. Instead they talked about being patriots and patrons of america. In fact he says he will now forgive them for what theyve done. He went to every single court in the nation, scores and they said this guy is responsible for what was done and didnt do a thing and these people should be in jail and they should be the ones held accountable. Now we have a blood bath . Thank you President Biden. President trump . What theyve done to some people that are so innocent, you ought to be ashamed of yourself what youve done and how youve destroyed the lives of so many people when they ripped out many of the cities, you go to minneapolis, what theyve done with the fires all over the city if i didnt bring in the National Guard it would have been destroyed. When you look at all of it they took over big chunks of seattle. I was all set to bring in the National Guard. They saw that coming and they left immediately. What he said about this whole subject is so off, one other thing the un select committee that is basically to horrible republicans that are all done now out of office and democrats, they destroyed and deleted all of the information because they found out we were right. We were right and they deleted and destroyed all of the information. They should go to jail for that. If a republican did that is able to go to jail. I want to give you a minute. The only person in this state that is a felon is the man im looking at right now and the fact of the matter is what hes telling you is simply not true. The fact is there was no effort on his part to stop whats going on on capitol hill. All those people, every one of those is to serve to be convicted. The idea they didnt kill Somebody Just went in and broke down doors and broke their windows, occupied offices, turned over desks, turned them over statutes, the idea that those people are patriots, come on. At the first debates that we had the first time around i said i will tell them to stand by. What we denounced the people that we talk about now, the people that attack, what are you going to do . Im going to give you a minute for the followup question i have. After a jury convicted you have 34 felonies last month you said if reelected you would have every right to go after your political opponents. You talked about members of the select committee january 6th going to jail. Your main political opponent is on stage with you tonight. Can you clarify what it means feeling you have every right to go after political opponents . I said my retribution is going to be success we will make it successful again because right now its a failing nation. Its going to be success but when he talks about a convicted felon, his son is a convicted felon and a high level, his son is going to be convicted probably numerous other times and should have been convicted before but the Justice Department let the statute of limitations lamps on the most important things. But he could be a convicted felon as soon a c gets out of office with all of the things that he is done. Hes done horrible things. All of the death caused at the border, telling the ukrainian people we are going to want a billion dollars otherwise you are not getting a billion dollars, if i ever said that, that is quid pro quo. We are not going to do anything. We are not going to give you a billion dollars unless you change your prosecutor. This man is a criminal. Youre lucky. I did nothing wrong. We would have a system that was rigged and disgusting. We did nothing wrong. Youve said, im coming right to you, sir you want to respond i will give you a minute to respond. Of the idea that i did anything wrong relative to what youre talking about is outrageous, simply a lie. Number two, the idea that you have a right to seek retribution against any american just because your president is simply wrong. No president has spoken like that before. Number three, the crimes you are charged with and think how many billions of dollars for molesting a woman in public and doing a whole range of things, having sex with a porn star while your wife was pregnant, what are you talking about . I didnt have sex with a porn star, number one. Number two, that was a case that was started and ruled, they moved a highranking official, doj into the Manhattan Office to start that case. That case is going to be appealed. We had a very terrible judge, horrible judge, democrat, the prosecutor, all highranking democrats appointing people at both the civil and criminal. He basically went after this political opponent but when the public found out about the cases because they understand better than he does, he has no idea what the cases are but when he found out about the cases, you know what they did, the numbers went way up and we took more money in the last two weeks than we have ever taken and in the history of any campaign i dont think any campaign has ever taken. Hundreds of millions of dollars because the public knows its a scam and its a guy after his own political opponent because he cant win fair and square. You have said donald trump and his maga republicans are destroying american democracy. Do you believe the tens of thousands of who are likely to vote for President Trump will be voting against american democracy . The more they know about what hes done, yes. And theres more coming. He has a lot more cases. Hes got a whole range. I dont know what the juries will do but i do know he has a real problem and so the fact did you ever hear any president to say im going to seek retribution or say i got hit by some good ideas, what got me involved to run i said i wasnt going to run again until i saw what happened in Charlottesville Virginia people coming out carrying swastikas on torches and singing the same antisemitic song they sang back in germany and a young woman got killed. I spoke to the mother. They said what do you think about this and they said i think theres fine people on both sides. What american president would ever say nazis coming out of the fields with torches singing, carrying swastikas that they are fine people . The good things done, thats what he said. No sense of american democracy. President trump . Both of you know its been totally wiped out. 100 exoneration so he just keeps it going. He ran because it was his last chance. Hes not equipped to be president. You know and i know we have a date and we are trying to justify the presidency. Without a question, the worst presidency in the history of the country we shouldnt be having a debate about it. He made up the charlottesville story and its debunked all over the place. Every reasonable anchor has debunked it and just the other day it came out where it was fully debunked. A nonsense story. He knows that and he didnt run because of charlottesville. He used it as an excuse. It happened. All you have to do is listen to what was said at the time and the idea that somehow thats the only reason i ran. I ran if he thought there were good people coming out of the forest carrying those torches, he didnt deserve to be president at all. The idea hes talking about all this being fabricated, you saw what happened to january 6th and people breaking windows, use all the people occupying. His own Vice President said theres a reason why the top cabinet officers the Vice President hadnt endorsed him this time, so why . Why are they not endorsing him . Thank you. We are going to be right back with more from the cnn president ial debate. The house will be in order. This years hes been civil rights 45 years of covering Congress Like no other. Since 1979, weve been your primary source providing balance, unfiltered coverage of government taking you to where the policies debated and decided all with the support of americas cable companies. Cspan, 45 years and counting, powered by cable. The state to make America Great again. For progress and for peace. Anyone who says they wont is not telling the truth. We are in the midst of a springtime of hope for america. We are the party that believes in the american dream. Read my lips. [cheering] i still believe in a place called hope. Here is the question for the American People who do you trust in this election. 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Black mothers are still three times more likely to die from pregnancy related causes, and black americans are in prison about five times the rate of white americans. What do you say to black voters that are disappointed that you havent made more progress . Acknowledge we made a lot of progress, number one. Second, there is more small black businesses that have been started ban any time in history. Number two, black unemployment is the lowest its been in a long time. Number three, we are finding housing [inaudible] that exists among that collude to keep people out of houses. In addition to that, we find that the impact, the choice that black families have to make relative to childcare is incredibly difficult. And we did the first major piece of legislation in the past i was able to reduce black childcare costs, i cut them in half. Weve got to make sure we provide the child care costs and make sure because when they provided the childcare protections, your increasing their Economic Growth because more people can begin the job market. So theres more to be done, considerably more to be done. But weve done a great deal so far. You have 49 seconds left. What do you say to black voters who are disappointed with the progress so far . I say i dont blame you for being disappointed. Inflation is still hurting badly. I provided for the idea that any black family, firsttime homebuyer should get a 10,000 tax credit to be able to buy their first home so they can get started. I made sure we are in a situation where all those black families and black individuals are provided Student Loans and anything to do with volunteerism if they pay their bills for ten years, on their student debt, the rest is forgiven after ten years. Millions have benefited from that and we are going to do a whole lot more for black families. Thank you, President Trump . And he caused the inflation. Hes blaming the inflation. Is right its been very bad he caused the inflation and its killing black families and hispanic families into just about everybody. Its killing people. They cant buy groceries anymore. You look at the cost of food, where its doubled and tripled and quadrupled. They cant live, they are not living anymore. He caused this inflation. I gave him a country with no, essentially no inflation. It was perfect. All he had to do is leave it alone. He destroyed his with his new scam and all the other, all this money thats being thrown out the window. He caused inflation. As sure as you are sitting there, the fact is that his big deal with the black people is the millions of people hes allowed to come in through the border, theyve taken black jobs now and it could be 18, it could be 19 and even 20 Million People they are taking lack of jobs and taking hispanic jobs, and you havent seen but youre going to see something that is the worst in our history. President biden . There was no inflation when i became president. You know why, the economy was flat on its back, 15 unemployment. He does i made the economy. Thats why there is no inflation at the time. There were no jobs. Provided thousands and millions of jobs for individuals who were in the communities including minority communities. We made sure they had health insurance. We have covered, the aca, i made sure there are 8,000 per person for a family with health care. But this guy wants to eliminate that. He wants to get rid of the aca again and they are going to try again. We find ourselves in the position where the idea that we are not doing i put more, we put more police on the street than any administration has. He wants to cut the cops and providing for equity and making sure people have a shot to make it. Theres a lot going on. The inflation, he caused it by his tremendous malfeasance into the way he handled the pandemic. Thank you. Another challenge is the Climate Crisis. The 2023 was the hottest year in recorded history in the communities across the country and they are confronting the devastating effects of extreme heat, intensifying wildfires, stronger hurricanes and rising sea levels. Former President Trump, you vowed to end your opponents climate initiative, but will you take any action as president to slow the Climate Crisis . Let me go back to what he said about how close. Almost every police group in the nation from every state is supporting donald trump. Almost every police group. And what hes done to the black population is horrible. Including the fact that for ten years he called them super predators. We cant forget that. A super predators was his name. And he called them and theyve taken great offense and now they see it happening. But when they see what ive done for criminal Justice Reform and for the historically black colleges and universities where i funded them and got them all funded and the opportunities with as you know tim scott was incredible, he did a great job, great senator from south carolina. He came to me with of the idea and its one of the most Successful Economic Development acts ever in the country. Opportunities into the biggest beneficiary are blacks and thats why we have the best numbers with them maybe ever. They are saying ever. I read this morning he is lost much of the black population because he has done a horrible job for black people. Hes also done a horrible job for hispanics. But where do you see these millions of people pouring into the country, and they are going to take the jobs and its already started. You havent seen anything yet. Its want to absolutely clean air. We had it. With the best numbers ever and we werent using all forms of energy. All forms, everything. And during my four years i had the best environmental numbers ever. My top environmental people gave me that statistic just before i walked on the stage actually. I do not know where he has been. The idea that he said is true i passed the most expensive most extensive Climate Change legislation in history, in history. Find ourselves and by the way black colleges, i came up with 15 billion for hbcs Historic Black University and colleges because they do not have the kind of contributors to build these laboratories and the like. Any black student is capable of doing what any white student can do if they have the money. Now they will be able to get those jobs in high tech. A situation where the idea that he is claiming to have the cleanest water . The cleanest water . He has not done a thing for the environment. The piece climate accord i immediately joined it because 1. 5 degrees celsius and there is no way back. The only existenial threat to humanity is Climate Change. And he did not do a thing about it. He wants to undo all that i have done. The paris escort is going to cost us a trillion dollars. China nothing and russia nothing and yet nothing for it is a ripoff of the United States. And i ended it i did not want to waste that money because they treat us horribly. Where the only ones it was costing us money nobody else was paying into it. And it was a disaster. But everything he said just now. Ill give you an example he said insolent im the one that got the insulin down for the seniors. I took care of the seniors what he is doing is destroying all of our medical programs because the migrants coming in once everybody. Look i have the biggest heart on the stage i can guarantee that i want to take care of people but we are destroying our country but they are taking over our schools, our hospitals are going to take over Social Security. He is destroying Social Security, medicare and medicaid. The idea that we in fact, we are the only ones of consequence who are not, are not members of the paris accord. How can we do anything if the United States cannot get it under control . We are making significant progress by 2035 we will have. We have made significant progress. We are continuing to make progress from set up a climate accord thousands of young people learn how to deal just like a peace corps. We are moving in directions that will significantly change the elements and because of pollution. But the idea he claims he has the biggest heart appear and he is really concerned about pollution and about climate, i have not seen any indication of that. And by the way with regard to prescription drugs, one company agreed they would reduce the cost to 35 which was one of volunteered i made sure every country in the world every pharmaceutical company. And by the way. Every day millions of americans struggled just to make ends meet. For many older American Social security provides a critical lifeline. President biden if nothing is done to Social Security seniors will see their benefits cut in just over 10 years apart will you name tonight one specific step you are willing to take to keep Social Security solvent . X yes yes make the very wealthy begin to pay their fair share but right now everybody making unwanted 70000 pay 6 of their income of their paycheck everything will time to get a paycheck when theyre 18 years old. The idea i am proposing millionaires pay 1 , 1 . Not raise the cost of Social Security for anybody under 400,000 but after that you begin to make the wealthy begin to pay their fair share. By increasing from 1 to be able to guarantee the program for life. Is ~ 82 seconds left there at the any other measures you think would be able to help keep Social Security solvent or is that what enough . That will keep it solvent for the biggest thing will do if we defeat this man because he wants to get rid of Social Security freethinkers plated cut in Social Security wants to cut Social Security and medicare both times and if you look at the program put forward the House Republican caucus that he supports is in fact wants to cut it as well. The idea what we do not need to protect our seniors is ridiculous. By the way the American Public as trade healthcare Coverage Today than ever before. And as i said your are in a circumstance where 400,000 people i mean 40 Million People would not have insurance because of a previous condition. It allows them to have insurance is the fact that they in fact are part of the naca. The other thing we are in a situation i talk about education for black communities. I have read the amount of money for pell grants another 8000 people making under 70000 a year will be able to get 15000 towards their tuition. He just does not know it is talking about a quick thank you President Biden, President Trump . I have dealt politicians all my life. I have been on the side of the equation for the last eight years. I have never seen anyone light like this guy. He could look you in the face and so many other things, too. We mention the laptop we mentioned russia, russia, russia, we mentioned ukraine. Everything he does is elides misinformation and disinformation. The losers and sucker story he made up was a total lie on the military. It is a disgrace. But Social Security, he is destroying it because millions of people are pouring into our country and theyre putting them onto Social Security. Theyre putting them onto medicare and medicaid theyre putting them in our hospitals. They are taking the place of our citizens but they are doing to the va to our veterans is unbelievable our veterans are living in the streets these People Living in Luxury Hotels. He does not know what hes doing and its really coming back i have never seen such anger in our country before. President biden . The idea veterans are not being taken care of i told you before and by the way what i said suckers and losers he acknowledged he fired that general that general got fired because he is the one that acknowledged thats what he said he was the one standing with trump what he said it. Number one. Number two the idea will be in a situation all of these in millions and millions the way he talks about illegal aliens are coming into the country and taking away our jobs. There is a reason why we have the Fastest Growing economy in the world with the reason why we have the most successful economy in the world. Were doing better than any other nation in the world. By the way he talks about being phony those economists all said if trump is reelected were likely to have a recession and inflation is going to increase and go up. By the way the worst president in history one or 59 president ial scholars voted him the worst president in history than isaacs of america expressing biden thank you so much as turned to the cause of child care at many family struggle to afford President Trump both you and President Biden have tried to address this issue the average cost of childcare in this country has risen to more than 11000 a year per child for many families the cost of childcare for two children is more than their rent. In your second term what would you do to make childcare more affordable . Could be go back the general got fired because he was so good. And it be said that thats what he made it up. We have 19 people said i did not sit there very highly respected much more so than him. The other thing is he doesnt fire people up or he never fired people ive never seen him fire anybody i did fire a lot i fired calm he was so got up fired a lot of the top people at the fbi drain the swamp. They were no good. Not easy to fire people you pay a price for it they were no good i inherited these people i did not buckle me there he was no good. I fired him. This guy is not fired anyone. He should have fired every military man that was involved with that afghan horror show. The most embarrassing moment in the history of our country. He did not buy or did you fire anybody . Did you fire anybody thats on the border that has allowed us have the worst border in the history of the world did anybody get fired for allowing 18 Million People many from prisons, many from Mental Institution said you fire anybody that allowed our country to be destroyed . Joe, our countries being destroyed as you and i sit at. Waste a lot of time on this debate this should not be a debate he is the worst president he just said it about me because i said it. Look he is the worst president in the history of our country he has destroyed our country it now all the said hes trying to get a little tough on the board he came out with a nothing deal. Reduce it a little bit, a little bit like this much it is insignificant. He wants open borders pretty wants our country to either be destroyed or he was to pick up those people as voters. We cannot let it happen. If he wins this election our country does not have a chance not even a chance of coming out of this rut we probably will not have a country left anymore that is how battery it is hes the worst in history by far. Thank you President Trump, President Biden . Works are the most admired country the world we are the United States of america. There is nothing beyond our capacity of the finest military in history of the world the finest history in the world. Th. No one wants to screw around with us, nobody number one. Number two the idea we are talking about worchester president i was not joking look it up or go or 59 or 58 i donte exact number president ial historians have had meetings and voted who is the worst president in American History . Best to worst they said he was the worst in all of American History parade that is a fact that is not conjecture. He can argue they are wrong but that is what they voted with the idea hes not doing anything to deal with childcare he did virtually nothing with childcare that should significant receipt childcare tax credit we should significantly increase the availability of women and men Single Parents go back to work and we should encourage businesses to hold. Have a. President trump a question was what would you do to make childcare more affordable a joy to take the minute progress just you understand we have polling, we have other things they treat them the worst because what hes done so bad. I will show you i will show you they reach meet one of the best. If i am given another four years i will be the best i think i will be the best. Nobody is ever created an economy like us. Knowing cut taxes like us. He is the only one i know he wants to raise your taxes by fourtime sealants to raise everybodys taxes by four times he wants the trump tax cuts to expire including the two of you will pay for five times but nobody heard of this before all my life i grow up and see politicians talk about cutting taxes. We cut taxes as i said we did more Business Apple in all of these companies were bringing money back into our country for the worst president in history by far and Everybody Knows it. President biden question. The fact of the matter is he is dead wrong he has increase tariffs he will increase the taxes on middleclass people. I said i would never raise the tax upon anyone making less than 40000 i didnt. This tariff this a 10 tax everything coming into the country and with the economist say . Thats gonna cost the average american 2500 a year or more because theyre going have to pay the difference in food and all the things that are important. Number two he is in a situation where he talks about he has not raised he somehow helped the middleclass. The middle class has been devastated by you. Now you want in your tax cut of 5 trillion of the next 10 years which is going to fundamentally bankrupt the country. If the largest deficit of any president in American History number one. Number two you have not in fact made any contact any progress with china. Where that lowest trade deficit with china since 2010. Thank you President Biden for thank you President Biden. Lets discuss an epidemic impacting millions of americans that both of you have made a top priority in your first term. The opioid crisis. And for both of you the number of Overdose Deaths in this country has gone up under your term it went up under your term it went up. Former President Trump despite the efforts of both of you have made more than 1000 americans are dying from overdoses every year primarily from fentanyl and other opioids. What will you do to help americans right now in the throes of addiction who are struggling to get the treatment they need . To finish up we have the largest deficit in the history of our country under this guy but we have the largest deficit with china. He gets paid by china heat gets money from china. I think he is afraid to deal with him or something. But do you notice he never took out my tariffs because we bring in so much money with the tariffs i impose on china. He never took them away he cant because its too much money it is tremendous. There is more to come but he is not done that. He is not cut the tariffs because he cant because its too much money but hes got the largest deficit and the history of our country but hes got the worst situation with china. China will own is that you keep allowing them to do what they are doing to us as a country. They are killing us as a country and you cannot let that happen. You are destroying our country. President trump gives 67 questions left. When you went you to help americans in the throes of addiction who are struggling to get the treatment they need . We are doing very well at addiction until covid came along we had two and half almost three years of like nobodys ever had before any country in every way. And then we had to get tough is drugs pouring across the border, started to increase weve got great equipment. We bought a certain dog with the most incredible thing youve seen the way they can spot it. We did a lot. We were getting very low numbers but very, very low numbers and he came along. Have use in the numbers now . Thats not on the 18 Million People i believe is even low the got a ways they dont talk about god always. The amount of drugs and Human Trafficking in women coming across our board the worst thing i have ever seen. No numbers nobodys ever seen under the him because the border is so bad. The number of drugs coming across our border is the largest weve ever had by far per. President trump thank you, President Biden . Sentinel and the byproducts of fentanyl went down for a while but i wanted to make sure we use the machinery that can detect fentanyl. These big machines roll over everything that comes across the border and it cost a lot of money that was part of the deal we put together this bipartisan deal. More fentanyl machines, more to detect drugs. More numbers of agents. More numbers of people at the border. When we had that deal done he calls his republican colleagues and said dont do its going to hurt me politically. He never argued its not a good bill its a really good bill. We need those machines. We need those machines we are coming down very hard on every country in asia in terms of precursors for fentanyl and mexico is working with us to make sure that all the technology to put it together. That is so we have to do we need those machines. Thank you President Biden. President trump again the question is about americans and the throes of addiction right now struggling to get the treatment they need. This does pertain to it. He ended remain and mexico but he ended catch and release and made a catch and release and mexico not catch and release here. We had so many things we had that hard negotiations with mexico we got it all for nothing. Its like we have a hostage 6 billion for every time with the hostage. Now we have a hostage a wall street journal reporter. I think a good guy. He is over there because of putin is laughing at this guy probably asking for billions of dollars for the reporter i will have him out very quickly as soon as i take office before he takes office i said literally as soon as i win the election i will have that reporter out he shouldve had them out a long time ago but putin is probably asking for billions and billions of dollars because this guy every time we had two cases paid 6 billion for five people i got 58 people out and i paid essentially nothing. Thank you President Trump. Lets turn to concerns voters have about each of you. President biden, you would be 86 at the end of your second term. How do you address concerns about your capability to handle the toughest job in the world well into your 80s. The first of all i spent half of my career being criticized being the youngest person in politics as a second youngest person ever elected to the United States senate and now i am the oldest bird this guy is three years younger a lot less competent but look at the record, look at what ive done link how it turned on the horrible situation. 50 million new jobs. These are manufacturing jobs. More investment in america over billions of dollars of investment and enterprises we are growing. By the way we brought an awful lot of people. The whole idea of computer chips we invented those chips and we lost it he was handing people the cheapest jobs overseas and bring home a product. So i went to south korea. I convinced samsung to invest billions of dollars here in the United States and guess what, to build these chips they pay over one her to thousand dollars you do not need a College Degree for them and theres a billions about 40 billion are to be invested in being built right now in the United States creating significant jobs for americans from all over the world too. President biden 40 seconds left a joy to add anything . Yes i would. The idea that somehow we are failing country but ive never heard of president talk like this before. Name me a single major country president who would not trade places with the United States of america. All of our problems and all of our opportunities with most progressive country in the world getting things out the strongest country in the world. We are a country who keeps our wort and everybody trusts us. All of our allies. And those who he cuddles up to from kim jongun when he sent love letters to and putin et cetera they do not want to screw around with us. Thank you. Former President Trump to follow up you would be 82 at the end of your second term. What do you say to voters who have concerns about your capabilities to serve . Ask i took two cognitive tests and i aced both of them as you know it we made it public he took it not i would like to see him take one, just won a really easy when growth of the first five questions he couldnt do it. I took two cognitive test i took physical exams every year and knock on wood wherever we may have what i am in very good health. I just want to Club Champions not even ceded to regular Club Championships to do that you have to be quite smart you have to build hit the ball a long way and i do it for he doesnt do it he cant hit a ball 50 years he challenged me too a golf match he cannot hit a ball 50 yards. I think im in very good shape i feel i am as in as good a shape as i was 25 or 30 years gone probably a little bit lighter. I am in as good a shape as i was years ago. I feel very good. I feel the same. I was willing to take a cognitive test and if i didnt do well, i aced them. Doctor Ronny Jackson who is a great guy he was the white house doctor took another 18 similar one one of them said theyd never seen anyone aced them. Thank you President Biden . You can see he is 6foot five and only. [inaudible] pounds. You said six four. Anyway anyway just take a look at what he says he is. And take a look at what he is. Ill be happy to have a contest i got my handicap when i was Vice President down to a six. And by the way told you before im happy to play golf just carry your own bag, think you can do it . Is a six handicap too. I was eight handicap cooks ive seen this when i know your swing. President trump chrysalis not act like children. You are a child. Its a concern voters have about you will you pledge tonight that once all legal challenges a bit exhausted you will accept the results of this election regardless of who wins . And you will say it right now Political Violence in any form is unacceptable. I should not have to say that but of course i believe that. It is totally unacceptable. If you would see the statements i made on twitter at the time and also the statement i made in the rose garden you would say is one of the strongest statements you have ever seen. In addition to the speech i made in the largest crowd of ever spoken to nobody ever talks about that. They talk about a relatively small number of people that went to the capitol. In many cases were ushered in by the police and his nancy pelosi said it was her responsibility not mine. She said that loud and clear. But the answer is if the election fair, free and i want that more than anybody. And i will tell you something, i wish he was a great president because i would not be here right now. Id be at one of my many places enjoying myself i would not be under indictment because i would not have been his political opponents because he indicted me because i was his opponent. I wish she was a great president. I would rather have that, i would not be here i dont mind being here with only reason i am here is he so bad as a president that im going to make America Great again. We are going to make America Great again we are failing nation we are seriously failing nation. We are a failing vision because of him. His policies are so bad. His military policies are insane. They are insane. These are wars that will never end with him he will drive us into world war iii we are closer to world war iii than anybody could imagine we are very, very close to world war iii and he is driving us there. Kim jong un and a president xi of china, kim jongun own of north korea and putin they do not respect him. They do not fear him. They have nothing going with this gentleman is going to drive us into world war iii. You want world war iii and state do what you want just to do what you want this is article five in the attack on one as an attack on all with a required response. The idea i cannot think of a single major in the world who not trade places with the job i have done with what they have done. Because of the people to step up when they arent needed. There needed to protect the world because her own safety is at stake. Again you want to have a war let putin go ahead and take make sure statement wants to have us in poland, hungary and other places along that border. Then you have a war. President trump as i come back to you for a followup the question was or will you accept the results of this election regardless of who wins . Just to finish what he said if i might, russia they took a lot of land from bush. They took a lot of land from obama and biden. They took note land, nothing from trump he knew not to of the not going to play games with me he knew that i got along with him very well but it knew not to play games he took nothing for me. But now hes going to take the whole thing is aware that never started never wouldve started with me. He is going to take ukraine. You asked a question before would you do this . He has got us in such a bad position right now with ukraine and russia because ukraine is not winning that war he said i will never settle until such time or they are running out of people, theyre running out of soldiers they have lost so many people it is so sad for they have lost so many people and lost those gorgeous cities with the golden domes are a thousand years old all because of him in stupid decisions but russia wouldve never attacked. The question was will you accept the results of the election regardless of who wins yes or no please. If it is a fair and legal and good election absolutely. I would have much rather accepted these but the fraud and Everything Else was ridiculous. If you want will have a News Conference on and a week well have another one of these in a week. I will absolutely print theres nothing i would rather do. Be much easier for me too do that then running again. I was not going to run until hesaw the horrible job you did. He is destroying our country. I will be very happy to be someplace else and a nice location someplace. And again no indictments, note political opponents up its the only way he thanks he can win. But unfortunates driven up my numbers and driven them up to very high level because the people understand it. Lets see what your numbers are when this election is over. Lets see you are a whiner when he lost the first time you continue your appeal in your appeal to courts across the country. Not one single court in america sit any of your claims that any merit state or local, none. You continue to promote this lie is this ms. Representation for all the ceiling there is no evidence of that at all. And i will tell you what i doubt you will accept it because you are such a whiner. The idea if you lose again you cant stand lost. Something snapped in you and you lost the last time. Bucks we will be right back with more from that cnn president ial debate live from georgia. Once again awaiting for the cnn president ial baby tim President Biden former President Trump to resume a reminder will get your reaction to what youve seen and heard tonight as soon as the debate is over. Live a simulcast continues from atlanta and just a moment. It is now time for the candidates to deliver their closing statements as predetermined by a coin toss. We are going to begin with you President Biden you have two minutes. We have made significant progress from the debacle that was left by President Trump in his last term. We find ourselves in a situation where number one, we have to make sure we have a fair tax system i asked anyone out there in the audience, anyone out watching this debate you think the tax system is fair . The fact is as i said no one working under 40000 has a single penny increase in their taxes and if i am a reelected theyll be the case again. But, this guy has increased your taxes because of the deficit number when hes increase inflation because of the debacle he left when he handled the pandemic and he finds himself in the position he was a tax you more by putting a 10 tariff on anything that comes into the United States of america. What i did for example he wants to get rid of the ability of medicare for the ability for us to be able to negotiate drug prices with big pharma companies. Guess what. We have got it down to 35 per insulin instead of 400. No more than 2000 for every senior no matter how much prescription they need putin with that did . That reduce the debt might 160 billion over 10 years because the government tried not to pay the exorbitant prices. In going to make that available to every senior, although its happening now. And everyone in america. He wants to get rid of that. Parent going to make sure we have child care. Theyre going to see an increase in credits people have for child care. Were going to make sure we do something about what we are doing on lead pipes and all the things that are causing Health Problems for people across the country. We are going to continue to fight to bring down inflation and give people a break. Think you President Biden for President Trump you have two minutes your closing statement pic looks like so many politicians this man is just a complainer. He said we want to do this, we want to do that, once he rid of this tax in that tax. But he does not do anything. All he does is make our country unsafe by allowing millions and millions of people to pour in. Our military does not respect him and look like fools in afghanistan. We did not stop israel it was a horrible thing that wouldve never happened it should have never happened. Iran was broke. Anyone that did business with iran including china they could not do business with the United States they all passed iran it was broke they had no money for hamas or hezbollah no money whatsoever. Again it ukraine should never have happened he talks about all the stuff he did not do it for three and half years we are living. We have the palestinians we have everybody else writing all over the place pretty talk about charlottesville is 100 times charles the 1000 times the whole country is exploding because of you because they do not respect you and they have to respect their president they do not respect you throughout the world. What we did was incredible we rebuilt the military without the largest tax cut in history that largest regulation cut in history. The reason he has got jobs is because i cut the regulations and gave jobs. He is putting a lot of those regulations back on. All of the things we have done weve never seen anything like it in for that medical standpoint right to try it we can try space age materials instead of going to asia are going to europe and trying to get when youre terminally ill you can go and get something for you to sign a document theyve been trying to get it for 42 years. You know what we did for that military was incredible choice for our soldiers. Instead of waiting for three months to see a doctor they can go out and get themselves affixed up and ready it up and take care of themselves. They are living highest Approval Rating in the history of the va. All of these things we are in a failing nation is not would be failing anymore going to make it great again. , President Biden. Stay with us because we have full analysis of this debate. It starts now on cnn. That is eight wrap the first president ial debate of the 2024 election cycle is in the books. President biden former President Trump addressing several issues tonight with moderators jake tapper and dana bash the economy, immigration, Foreign Policy and abortion among others. Cspan coverage continues tonight of the first president ial debate. A look and now inside the spin room live coverage where the Start Talking to reporters to give their analysis of the evening cspan cameras are of course there on the ground. We will be bringing highlights for the next hour or so. We will also take your calls until midnight tonight but at that point we will re air at rc tonights debate in its entirety. We want to hear from you first. What is your reaction to tonight debate . What did the candidates say that resignation with you . What did you want to hear that you didnt hear . We divided the lines this way if you are supporting President Biden