Transcripts For CSPAN2 Summit On Human Exploration Of Mars Part 2 20170817

And thats saying a lot. Hes also been at nasa since 1979 and he knows what nasa is all about. Jim. Thank you very much. [applause] i think we have a wonderful International Panel this morning and i will introduce each of our Panel Members. The first one is sayyid and sayyid is part of the Strategic Planning team to mars and his duty is to make the uvs journey to mars will be sustainable, leaving an everlasting effect. He is also the cofounder of a Youtube Channel that aims at making science and Technology Accessible to our use in that area. That has been quite successful. Site. [applause] next, the on he works at the Mission Operations for Integration Center of Human Spaceflight Technology director in japan. He received his degree in the Space Systems engineering special design of an intelligent controller or an economist walking robot under a microgravity environment. He is currently in charge of the japanese human and nonhuman expiration as the main lead in the Architectural Design of Space Systems to the moon and mars. Lets introduce him. [applause] our third panel member this morning is. [inaudible] hes from the Space Corporation and he is bent the xo mars project Design Authority and carlos holds a degree in physics from the university of genoa. He has specialized in control systems and Digital Electronics and System Engineering and is currently the Design Authority of the robotics exploration product line and head of the Systems Engineering managers of space for italy science and exploration activities. Carlo. [applause] how we have organized the panel today is i will provide a broad overview of some of the activities going to mars relative to the science and then each of our Panel Members will talk about an individual aspects of the International Program and developing a mars. This is of course a truly exciting time and mars, for many years was that mostly us and Russian State Agency endeavor and what we have seen happening over the last several years is not only new additions to mars with the Indian Space Research organization but new plans that will make this decade really exciting from an international perspective. Mars, today, our Science Mission has shown in this overview and what the plans are and we have a significant number of orbiters that are doing great, working well and these are the mars odyssey missions from nasa and the mars express and nasas mars recognizance orbiter and nasas maven orbiter and, as i mentioned, israels mom orbiter. Currently on the service we have two rovers that are operating quite well and one is opportunity that has landed in 2004 and that 90 day wonder that keeps on working and is doing an outstanding job continuing to do very exciting things. Sitting in gail crater at the shoreline of the ancient ocean is curiosity. Gail crater and its going quite well, landed in 2012 and is continuing to make some spectacular measurements as it starting to head out. In 2018, may of next year, nasa will be launching the Insight Mission and this is not a rover but a platform. It will sit in a location just a few Degrees North of where curiosity is and as a platform its designed to take measurements by drilling into the service and measuring the heat flow as the planet continues to emit heat and start cooling down from its initial secretion, for in a billion years ago and it will also pop down onto the surface a seismic instrument in the seismic instrument is the most sensitive seismic instrument ever made and at mars it will detect what we believe our natural mars breaks but also impacts that are occurring on a regular basis based on meteorites that are coming into the Martian Atmosphere all the time. With that we hope to be able to unlike the interior and understand much more about the structure of mars but also the potential how those resources can be used for human expiration. The 2020 opportunity that begins in july will begin with a huge array of missions. You know, i think every six months its like a highway to mars opens up and in that highway it will be packed. We start out at the top of that opportunity with space x launch of a red dragon. That will be followed at the end of the opportunity, we believe, with another red dragon in those have been announced by space x. In addition to that nasa will be launching a mars 2020 rover and this is a rover for which we havent exactly selected its site but there are three sites in contention in two of which, northeastern major and just a row crater are areas where we would consider on the shoreline of the ancient and another crater where we believe theres a been a flowing of water, hot springs if you will, thermal activity deep in its path. We have to down select for most of those coming up soon. In addition to that, in 2020, nasa will launch its xo mars rover, its a spectacular rover that indeed will make a number of measurements and nassau has a small portion on that mission but china has also announced that it launching an orbiter and a platform that will land and have a rover and begin to interrogate the surface. The uae has announced their full permission that will be in orbiter for making measurements of solar wind interactions with Martian Atmosphere and other aspects of mars. What a spectacular opening of the highway and what will be happening. Then, as we move into the decade, 2024 it was announced that martian moon exploration mm ask, is designed to interrogate the two moons of mars with the sample return. As i always like to think, they are really the space station of mars. Later on in the decade as more plants become firm up there are plans and discussions about bringing samples back both from potentially the 20 that even china has stated that there quite interested in sample returns. There is a brief scientific overview of what is happening not only in the near future but as we begin this next exciting decade of the science expiration of mars. Exploring mars is not star trek. Its not go where no human has gone before but its the pioneering effort of the science efforts that are being executed by many countries now that will be critical laying the foundation for human expiration. So, with that, let me turn it over to saeed to talk about uaes activity. Thank you. The uae we believe that, as jeff said, were at the cusp of a new age of expiration and the new space race that affects literally every human on earth. You can say that we believe, as well, that in order for us to move into the future and in order to embrace the opportunities and challenges of the future based expiration is especially and i will goal simply is to be able to collaborate and to be able to contribute to humanitys effort in the cosmos. Im supposed to have a clicker but i will just move to the next slide. What jim forgot to mention is i am the Program Director of the uaes new program of the mars 2117 program. Move to the next light. As i said, our mission and our vision is quite simple. We would want to enable the uae to contribute to committees efforts in interplanetary travel in interplanetary living and so on. Now how we might achieve that vision is by establishing a lasting colony on mars by the year 2117 with international collaboration. Very good. The pillar of this program our education we want to embed a culture of discovery and a cultural expiration into the next generation and generations to come. We want to focus, as well, as research and development and contributing to the global effort of colonizing the red planet and other bodies in our solar system as well as collaborating and building effective and lasting collaborations with individuals and with institutions and space agencies as well as and this is Important Pillar as in enable. We want to enable the active role in enhancing the global efforts to the red planet and other planetary bodies. We understand that this is a global effort and we cannot actually do this and will do everything. Based on the resources and the challenges that are presented and opportunities, we seek the role to this program and if you click on yes. One we see ourselves as supporters of this project and some we see ourselves as orchestrators where we bring two different entities together and we put them on the ground and let them run. We also want to serve as activators and leaders of some of these niche programs in areas that have not been explored yet. Now, some of you why are you really doing this . Simply, we live in the uae in a rough neighborhood as far as the world. With the neighborhood that has over 100 million use with 35 unemployment. In the uae we see to pass and one is that these numbers create a negative effect im sure you know what i am talking about or it creates a positive impact. This is one we are betting on. We want to show the region and the use that if you invest in science and technology and if you contribute to amenities efforts then you will be able to be a frontier of Scientific Technology with the rest of humanity and if you show the message that for science and technology through Space Exploration we can add it to humanitys knowledge. This is a brief review and im open to questions. [applause] switch now. Thank you. First of all, id like to thank you very much for giving me a chance to do this scenario. We made japanese integrated space expiration scenario 400. [inaudible] we have just finished the examination and to make the integrated expiration scenario. Picture is our integrated scenario and as you can see, the upper left side we put on the internet so is an example from mars expiration in this scenario integrated not only science points but we look to the future for human exploration mission. This integrated scenario is very easy to divide it. So, most of the important parts and of course, our final goal is to put a human to mars. How do i say . The mission is important. That mission is needing to. [inaudible] another good point is how to make a convenient way for the human to the mars mission like a possibility or effective ability. This integrated scenario is a very, very big picture so we need international thats important for the electability. So, our next step is. [inaudible] our final step is human to the mars but we stop on the topic of the moon so next slide, please. [inaudible] as shown on the side, next step is to utilization of the topic of the moon. If we can find water on the surface of the moon weekend use that for the few or the launch vehicle. It is the one idea to make a much more Human Mission to make it convenient. Yeah, this one is our assumption of our japanese integrated scenario so i prefer her that its bleak in the total scenario so hopefully we can introduce more. Thank you. [applause] next yes, here i am. I am not a big scenario to show you up. Instead, i will talk a little bit about the mission in which i have been involved in the last years and the xo mars mission and the xo mars mission is articulated on two launches. One is the launch that has taken place last year in march and taken a rover to mars together with. [inaudible] the Second Mission is going to leave in july 2020 and you can see from this slide that this representation has launched by means of a russian vehicle. The First Mission launched in 2015, as i said, is made of two spacecraft, the orbiter which provides the communications between mars and for the future assets to be launched to the red planet. And to the landing which you may have known as a not completely successful mission, i would say in october of last year. It arrived at the 4 kilometers and then to do the last part of its mission because of problems. The Second Mission is the one of which all the focus is now provided in europe, at least for the part of the interplanetary expiration field. Its also launched by. [inaudible] and articulated with more complex. [inaudible] this will bring to mars a big lander containing a rover. With 350 a lot kilograms approximately this is to explore the. [inaudible] the doctor nice asian which is an Italian Company and this organization asked the major contributors. [inaudible] for the 2020 mission we have a major contribution from germany of what concern the design and development and the larger contribution to the module is from russia and the international corporatization. Italy contributes with a significant for the guidance and navigation and control of the module itself is based on the experience we have acquired in 2016 mission. Finally, the rover has produced by the uk with also a good contributions which will provide the rover operation center. To come back to the 2016 mission there was a primary objective for that visibility of the landing on mars and i am used to saying that. [inaudible] i would say with a very good simulation and forecast we didnt do the landing, unfortunately, we did a hard landing, i would say. Nevertheless, we now have rover around mars and doing well and its landing and im used to identifying the space with human with the heat and she but it is going to. [inaudible] it has already provided a good support to the landing providing the communication between the most module during its landing and we seek meaning of the missions not a lot but full of. [inaudible] which will use for the 2020 mission. The rover will provide a science important science contribution by looking at the traces of gases in the Martian Atmosphere which might be an important trace of existence or life on mars. The 2020 mission, as i said before is much more complex and the main target of the mission is to find a proof of the existence of ice on the red planet. For this there is a very complex analytical which will provide old experimental means to find of the existing or existing li life. The rover is also equipped with a drill which will allow to dig into the mass down to a depth of 2 meters at which it will supposed that the affect of the navigation let me say, therefore is the reason the possibility something is still alive this will be the depth to start with. This is a orbiter which was first mounted on top of the spacecraft and the diameter internet which is used in the trace gas orbit to communicate. Here,. [inaudible] the name of the famous astronomer to the study of the red planet at the end of the 80s and the 19 century and this is the front shield which was supposed to perfect the high friction in the atmosphere and it didnt work. We have to prove that the lander was perfected and it was done correctly and that the the module which was 1200kilogram module rover and on the right that is coming in is the module which is the first one which is being manufactured and this is the module which is now ready for the testing. Of course, this is a model and this is no electronic. Finally,. [inaudible] on the left side we are finally deployed and the navigation camera are mounted. On the right you have a drone and a model of the which is the important scientific point of view. Its a complex system which is now in pairs know we are mounting, assembling, the qualification module of it. In fact, this is a view of the. [inaudible] from the left side of the model which is a good representation and on the right side the station of the qualification model which is being tested now. I have seen it working two days ago in our assembly room. I think this is it. Thank you very much. [applause] this gives us a great opportunity for questions that you may have. If we can turn up the lights and be delighted to entertain questions. Here we go. Thanks to all of you. Im larry from mit and there remains an interest in the treatment of microgravity and countermeasures for the humans to mars mission and among the many that have been discussed is trying to prove the adequacy of artificial gravity during the interplanetary portions. I know there has been consideration in japan of the possibility of demonstrating human artificial gravity inside the hdtv. Could you tell us about that . Yeah. How do i say. [inaudible] of course, our Budget Planning consider is Important Program and the main problem is to be. [inaudible] course, how do i say assuming for extra missions so maybe it is not decided yet. Maybe we can try to, how do i say antigravity vindication for our transfer vehicles. We wish you success. Thank you so much. The morning. My question is for the uae specifically. With all your success in more than africa you been able to provide such beneficial products for the weather and improving the life of those living in the farmlands and everything. With that comes your Political Support that i presume finances your success now. In regards to that social pressure that you are feeling, how and what do you think youll provide that leadership with the quality that you mentioned with getting humans to mars . In europe your question. In regard to the social pressure that you will face because you currently make products that are great for the average citizen but what does mars have to do with them in regards to that social pressure what will you provide that you mentioned earlier . Thats a very good question. That was a question that we still get today even though, for example, the emirate is currently in a cbr this week and facts. For us people dont understan understand and im sure you can understand why they dont get why humanity is venturing into but whenever you start to explain that a lot of that Water Systems used today and used in rural areas, as a direct spinoff from space and then you get the aha moment and then they go okay, yeah. Invest more in that. Ultimately, once we show them the spinoff and how todays modern society is based on Space Exploration to a larger extent people start to understand and its that aspect of the awareness is not there yet. A lot of the effort in the Mars Missions is actually from the awareness aspect that this is the first interest Planetary Mission and allowing the people to understand why we are doing it is a vital aspect in making sure that the impact is sustainable. We are focusing on awareness and is an aspect of all of our missions, in fact and we are gradually starting to see the acceptance of getting and going to mars. One aspect and thats where we have to have the positive feedback is a lot of countries in the regions are telling us that we commend you and your investing in space and in venturing because someone has to. The arab world and the uae believe that it is a homegrown model of expiration and of utilizing science and technology. Good luck. Ill try to adjust the mic. Im jonathan and with Mechanical Engineering in new jersey. Its exciting to see this great panel of multinational people coming in from different parts of the world especially from the uae and theres a mars mission coming up. I commend you for your efforts. From one of the questions from the last panel that talks about multilateral work and the bilateral i wanted to ask all of you how has the multilateral work between working with countries to get to mars helped you and how do you hope to learo bring the knowledge from your Current Mission to help other countries with their future missions in years to come. Thank you. Ill start with that by saying quickly nafta appreciates the International Partners and we contribute to some of their missions and they contribute to our missions and i think that is important. We will continue to do that and grow as other nations become partners and have the ability to go out into the solar system. We welcome that. If i could i understand from the questions here that there is a lot of interest and concern on what is the path us of the scientific exploration of our solar system and if we can get the right to do that from people and and i think that we are one of the, lets say, important important points because the human destiny is the humanity and also to explore and, lets say, try to improve and i would say independently from the final task is what is inside the human kind and therefore, i think, there must be a bit of pride of investment to do these big efforts to go to mars. We have to design our future in this way. If i might add for us, we started our Space Program along 15 years and we transitioned to the Space Program within ten years. The net bid in which we do this collaboration that are mandated to educate and transfer of knowledge is very important to and we are working toward transitioning that knowledge to others that want to contribute into the sector and Space Exploration. We are seeing a lot of movement in that endeavor without greater region. I remember we first introduced to the mars mission and we had people all over social media who wanted to hang out and be a part of the mission. That morris is a platform of creating hope and allowing them to new dream big if you can get to mars you can do anything. I have a question on the mars mission. I assume you are well aware of those experiences and the live it and one by one with the exception of that crime investigator and that resonates with all of us. Msnbc explanation of last resort. With exactly the same issues and to answer this question with those scientific aspects and with that analysis from the terrain and there are three experiments to perform this type of analysis. In the laboratory with the possibility and from that subject eight through 2 00. With that probability of success and that is correct or things like that. And that is with the famous experiment with the of a possible life but not by a the other experiment by definition. This is a very exciting time. [applause] your program says a mystery guest from hollywood regrettably that is not happening however i have something just as good to in engaged and educate which is a good thing i will say with the change that tries to reinvigorate the hunger for science. [applause] [laughter] good morning. Standing up in front of an audience expecting a hollywood celebrity is Risky Business absolutely. But nevertheless i of help to the transition as to a discussion focused on one aspiring the marcions of tomorrow. That requires a clear technical plan with those multiple required missions. And with that teacher workforce. Then motivate a broad audience to actually care about humans going to mars and why were going and what we will do to make them feel involved in the process. And then to be disappointed to turn on the lights and the camera to tell the story of the Mars Exploration to make him a part of the of human venture so project mars is an activity later this month to an by colleges and early career professionals to visualize the journey to mars. So with the orion partners and remain open for an entire year to culminate in a screen yvette at multiple e venues fall 2018. And getting back to those hollywood film celebrities we will have some key figures as judges for the final selection. If youd like to know more please visit our web site. And to learn about are more human venture to mars. It is a longterm community so we will also like to help the current children to be a part of the human story and encourage them to become part of the future work force. With all of those analytical skills to do the important job and also to communicate and also of the ink creatively to foster but we have been discussing of the engagement and innovation and collaboration will take us to get to mars. Like to briefly mention the developing a science activity that children can do three recurring contest through more through bars if you want to hear more let me know and as you are about to hear and that this of future of march exploration. And help with this important task. To inspire the world about space to get the humans to mars. Thank you very much. [applause] now for that future generation and then in 16 years time to me 75 going to mars and much of a like to go i am simply too old and i would not pick me if i was in charge of picking people because there must me under better suited people but the next people and in the Palm Beach Gardens to have a passion for space policy and public speaking and we are very happy to have him with us here today. [applause] i am so excited to be here today to be a part of the of mars movement. And of those policy makers and experts from nasa and beyond. And that is a necessary part of rea existence that is utterly something that we should do but that we need to do to make scientific advancements to colonize a different planet a future reality. Certainly to follow the words of Ralph Waldo Emerson he said so go with there is no path. Said to have an undeniable opportunity that is larger than ourself and truly beneficial to the entire human race get one thing is for certain with passion and intellect for those across all ages and stages success is not a farfetched dream but a reality. The next few minutes why we need to go to mars and my generation will leave the charge to do so and to be implemented at my school and the skills required to reach the red planet go where no man has gone before. Incense mars and earth has many similarities and to the improved of way of life. And with the United States of america the very country that landed the first man on the moon scientifically it has improved and that has brought Great Technology such as elie d artificial limbs and Highway Safety advancements and best of all 10 tang. [laughter] how to live on foreign planets and also live on earth with the agriculture on mars. To see how different substances react to the Martian Atmosphere and to explore the planet in a better way morris will help us to pioneer new ways of technology as well as conducting research. There is a big possibility if we find life on mars is a colossal full colossal discovery. Their british astronomers said you cannot rule out the fact of midday on earth kicked off terrestrial life and to determine if we do find life on mars but it would be a monumental discovery and going to mars will allow us to colonize and other planets. And as these ingenious people say it is not an option. Abandoning number of ways but just to explore the planet but also economically and politically to gain those important resources that allows us to have a jumping off point for a future space mission. Because if we dont take the initiative other countries will. This is so pivotal mars is something it is a of a curiosity to explore worthy unexplored and in order that to advocate for congress for exploration my generation continues to work this is very important when trying to go to mars. The school like a cross the country we go beyond that we conduct High Altitude balloon flights and with those zero spays classs we started a program in 2015 and in february we learned with this launch an initiative for a launch in 2018. As a part of the program we will launch into space beside this we get handson experience that institutions used as the Script Research institute and the university of florida and also for highschool students. In that army corps of engineer we hope to lead the way to to better prepare the generation for the job that needs to be done in the future so to pursue these goals future missions are rigorous scientific questions continuously involved as we make new discoveries with technologies to explore mars the way we have never before. With precision landing and Service Mobility and a return of martian soil and rock samples. In order for this to be a success we have to come together to realize it benefits us all too great scientific advancements and new technology. For those many inspiring people is up to us to pass that knowledge on to our leaders. Thank you. [applause] that was inspirational and now with this bus exit the building and go left again. And then the ability for the occasion. Are you invigorating our society . Said to be president and ceo with the Nonprofit Organization as a living tribute and for those other tragedies there are 43 Challenger Centers with dynamic experience is and of course, to do pique their interest there are three ladies and the panel. Please come up. This is always tough to follow the best speaker of the day but this panel appropriately is following michael who every time i work with kids and see kids like this and touche started this out looking around i dont even say industry as a community for people to dedicate our lives to exploration and they were so far reaching and if you think about it we cannot even finish that within our career year under an interior scientist and quite frankly talking about mars and that is looking of a classroom window today. For in this audience. And to have that subject and to share thoughts of for urban need to go what are the issues were facing because this is not easy and we need world experts. The students that we are talking about at the Challenger Center we call them the marcions of tomorrow. They will be the most technologically and financed generation we have ever known. So i want to introduce my panelist the director of elementary instruction and then also asking them to ruth reflected in their learning. So i will point out to with a spectrum of educational support of cater five students and next with that in structural base development. And to have 25 years in the public sector. Being inspired to go on to other things. Robin will have a perspective from both a professional development side. Also we have with us the pleasure to have janet iv, the creator of janets planet. She is committed to enriching the lives of children via education and live performances, on tv and online, she has a great following. Twentyfive years in childrens entertainment and education. She has received 12 regional emmys and six gracie allen awards and has been on over 140 television stations nationwide. Could i get around of applause for the employees. , before i go any further, i want to introduce one more group. I talked about this a little bit your earlier. The reason i am here, we do have a group of students today , a group of ninth graders from the public charter school. Lets give them a round of applause. They are in the upper deck. [applause] stand up. Are they still here . There they are. Climax thank you. They are not only here to hear about the future from you, in a bit, after lunch they will go across the street and we have a simulated launch on fls that they are going to be flying. Theyre also going to design a 3d habitat. I want to thank the corporate sponsors that helped us with that its aerojet foundation, boeing and our longtime partner nasa lets get into the topic. A few months ago, i wrote an oped piece in the Huffington Post about why mars and we said, from our perspective. [inaudible] i say mars because jean says we are on a journey to keep an appointment with whatever we are also the promise of exploration which is the greatest science event or story of all time. Its the great out west so we got to go to. And then, why not. Its like the possibility. And, its because, as youre talking about it, i tend to work k through five are k8 students and i definitely know a group of thirdgraders that designed the whole martian habitat and when i asked them why they said because we want to be the people to go. Fantastic. This is for you up there on the top, the young student, you own that. When i was a young girl, it was all about landing on the moon. I witnessed that and it was like now what mars is so exciting. I was at the Johnson Space center couple months ago and i saw what goes along with developing mission to mars ten how companies and people are designing new spacesuits so theyre not faulty. How can they be slim and trim, almost like workout close. Your generation can go up into orbit. Its so exciting to see what students will be able to do that will go along with flying a mission to mars. I think it generates the excitement that the moon did for us. In education, not just mars. Mars is a great goal but for us its making the impossible possible and helping kids see that we have dreams and goals and some of those are really big goals. Its okay to dream and its okay to think about things that others might say thats impossible or we cant do that, but we want our students to think about what could be possible not be boxed in by what others say is impossible. Fantastic. Lets talk about the bigger Stem Education issues which is why we are all here. I think generally when we have a panel like this is because were trying to solve the problem. This is of concern. There are growing concerns that todays students dont leave school prepared to take on Higher Education stem programs or after the stem workforce. Some students lack the basic understanding of stem subjects. It affects businesses abilities to fill those jobs metrically impact our economy and our ability to achieve things. The u. S. Department of congress estimates that jobs and stamps will experience double growth as non stem fields and that could lead to a surplus of career opportunities. As we sit in this room, living and breathing stem because we are all disciples of it, knowing its important and what lies ahead, we know we have a lack of talent. Our industries will suffer. Its a risk. At nasa, i started my career as an aerospace engineer. Even designing a space vehicle, you talk about risks and you have to define what your risks are. This is a risk to us getting to mars. That is a key reason why we are here. Lets start with you robin because really if you talk about workforce, your industries that you represent, how many billions of dollars of revenue and jobs and pretty much everybody who is in your organization is who is helping us get to mars. What you see in the industry . What is causing the problem . If you ask any of our ceos what keeps you up at night, there are a lot of answers but almost everyone says the talent pipe line in our future workforce. Whats happens when i retire. Whos coming up behind them. We dont know exactly when that we will occur. Weve been talking about the big retirement the stem fields. We know that wave will come and we got to have the students coming up behind them. Theres a number of things we are concerned about. Theres not enough women and minorities going into the stem field. We need to do better at that, thats a known fact. Of course the skills gap, well talk about the skills gap, the jobs that are going to be needed in the future dont often match up with the skills that the Students Learning today. Theres a gap there and that affect productivity, innovation and threaten our Global Competitiveness at times. How can we close that gap. The other thing i want to talk about his soft skills, the fact that we need students to not only know about extreme opportunities for learning highlevel math and science skills, but also can they communicate . Can i collaborate and work as a team. Those soft skills are very important in our industry, to be successful. I wont go on and on, but what we see in our industry, we have a communications problem. We are not talking to the students enough. Were not telling our story. When not telling that we have highpaying jobs and there is a career in Aerospace Industry if you choose that. Were not having millennials go back and talk to the students, et cetera. The other thing is that technology is changing every day and its hard for us to match that up with what students are learning. We talk about how we dont know what the jobs are going to be exactly tomorrow so with all of those issues in security clearance, theres a number of things that can go into, but thats what keeps us up and why we do have a shortage of stem a lot of those reasons. We just need to communicate how great these fields are. Its exciting. Take me to jerry. You are actually seeing the kids at this early age. What you think is happening here . First i will say our students today, our youngsters are talented. They are enthusiastic and kind and concerned about the world and their globally connected. We have prepared them to do exactly what we have prepared them to do. Although accountability, we have set them up to focus on the answers. Theyre not necessarily learning to think and enhance the skills that robin was talking about, what we call the foresees. Weve not been setting them up for that because weve been focused on the accountability that weve all had to work toward and make sure that we are showing that our students are being successful, but we were showing students being successful in a way that is not necessarily helping us create students who are wellversed in stem fields. And thats one of the biggest problems. We say all the time that an effective driver. [inaudible] but when assessment is driving education from standardized test that they have to learn how to take, we are cramping their ability to be creative and help students learn to think. Not only do we would have our students growing up in this and barbara that our teachers have grown up in this environment too. We have a generation of teachers and students who have been trained in this way. The good news is, the pendulum is starting to swing back. In virginia we are becoming more focused on problems and assessments that help show knowledge as opposed to just having students spit out what they know. The foresees are being embedded into classrooms and the curriculum and students are expected to show how they are collaborating. Theyre expected to show creativity, and theyre expected to communicate. We are coming back that direction and building in stem content into the curriculum is one way were getting there. We are focused on the fact that we need to do better for students and make sure were headed in a better direction. To build on what both of these great ladies have said, i feel sometimes, im a huge advocate for connecting students with role models. I think sometimes theres a lack of seeing industry professionals or women. They have made attempts to showcase the stories of women and see those brilliant women on her intelligence. I think we have to stop honoring the gift we were given to stand here and say that the best computer ever built at the top our shoulder. If we take art away from science and say youre one of those creative types, you sit over there. Thank god i had a great teacher who saw both my creator and my science abilities and allowed me to both. I think letting our art and former science and vice versa has to happen. I want to quote you some things for theres a great video running around where they did a study, weve got to create aspirational science. All you riders and artists, they did a study and there are 5000 childrens books. Only 25 of them had zero female characters. Dive on down, cross media, only partial female media hold jobs or have career expectations. Dreaming the dreams of mars and asteroids, and deep space in all of these things, we have to stand up and mentor and show up and we have to be the best mouthpiece for science. Wow. Im glad you brought that up. First of all, on a personal note, i started my career at the nasa Research Center and Catherine Johnson was in her last year that i met her when i was a young engineer. Im very glad to see that movinmovie as well. It was very uplifting. We need everybody. We need more students engaged and so we appreciate these comments. These are fantastic. Im setting up, thats the problem. Now ive brought you over here for a reason. Now you tell me what the solutions are. From our side at the Challenger Center, we look at students as they were committed to igniting that potential within each student. Thats the key. Jerry you were talking about the standardized testing and it kinda drives me a little nuts, im the parent of 12yearold and if we can get students excited and energized about the subjects and open their eyes, that will prepare them for the future. We gotta do that is handson stem programs youve got to let them run experiments and do simulated missions, see the excitement of all of it going o on. In a Challenger Center mission, they put those tasks together. They work as a team and we give them a chance to see the careers they could have. This afternoon, the students appear in this audience will do some of those things and im kind of open may be 20th or any 30 years from now ill be reading about them stepping on mars are being a racket scientist. Weve been around over 30 years and we have those stories are ready. We have people in Mission Control and astronaut and doctor so thats kind of my philosophy that ive got a few other experts were great about this so jerry, ill start with you. What can be done from a formal education standpoint, and even with society as it relates to education to get more kids engaged with them. I was just reading an article couple weeks ago that talks about them education and starting kids early and they were advocating for starting as early as preschool. Theres a big push to make sure we have preschool education for more students, lead times we think theyre too young to be engaged or involved in scientific thinking for mathematics and that sort of thing, but the reality is, kids come with knowledge and a natural curiosity about the world around them, and they are ready and focused and willing to be a part. Weve got to tap into that early and set up those experiences for students. We have have openended opportunities so that focused on the right answer their focus on answers or solutions. We need to provide meaningful expenses for students. A lot of times we start down that path of problem based learning or problem based education, the scenarios we give kids are so contrived they see right through them. And to Learn Program that we did with the Challenger Center and the grant that they had was focused on oceans and learning the Ocean Science and all that sort of thing for fifthgraders, but they were focused on the monk seals and that theyre going to become extinct in trying to study reasons why. They started studying ocean currents in solution and all that things and then incorporated a solution where they were engaged to help solve problems along the way and come up with their own ideas related to the problems put before them. That was a real world problem in ours units were extremely engaged had an opportunity to think and collaborate and make sure they were working toward an end goal which was really exciting to see. We need more of that. Finally we need to lift teachers out. Not sure if youre aware but there is a natural transnational teacher shortage. People are thinking about going into education, because the publicity that education has gotten the past few years, they are running for the hills. Its not that were not even getting the best and brightest which is what we used to hear which is kind of offensive to those of us in education. Its that were not getting anyone because kids see that and they see how teachers i cant are being put between iraq and a hard place and they dont want to do that. We have to support them and provide the training they need in the classroom, and thats not because their teachers are uneducated for their some of the most intelligent, welleducated people that walk the face of this earth and they are with our kids day in and day out, loving them and nurturing them and providing for their educational and other needs, but they arent experts and everything. We have a room full of experts in the Stem Education field who can be part of that training and help support it and help our teachers by coming in and modeling are doing similar things to help set up training thats positive for teachers. We need ways to help teachers see the Practical Applications of what theyre teaching in the classroom to the field. At the elementary level its difficult to say this is what you need this map for when youre talking to a sixyearold ornateyearold but when someone from the field comes in and shows them how its applicable and thats part of the realworld job it makes more sense. Those are the things that can help us in education. Fantastic. Thank you so janet, youre great at this and inspiring students, tell me about your programs or opportunities that helped inspire students and why you believe it works. Mentoring, there are some amazing kindergartners and first graders. Theres a guy named jackson who was in first grade. He was my selfproclaimed biggest fan so when that was happening he had read all about the new Horizons Mission and said if you happen to talk to that mr. Allen tell him i still think its a planet. Fastforward i get a call from another teacher and said jackson is having a little bit of trouble, his parents are going through divorce and i just want to help him. I had been at a luncheon and they said i guess he really wants to go into space can you film a message i filmed the message with him and he takes out his Business Card in the video, autographs and gives it to me and i had to school. Jackson comes out, he watches this video and it tells him you need to be a good person and learn how to collaborate and study hard and learn how to be a pilot and that little face became a smile, and then i handed him the autographed Business Card and it wasnt until i realized he said i probably need to call him and tell him that im thinking oh my goodness i just gave a secondgrader and astronauts phone number so in the car i called him and i said you know that card i never even thought about it and he said it will be great. Back and forth, a 7yearold and probably approaching 70 spent about 45 minutes on the phone pretty sent him a followup package and his little world was right again. Ive seen that kind of thing when its a one to one, but ive also seen it when i do a hands on activities like make your own spacecraft. Nasa has a great thing, you make it out of recycled items. I have done this at festivals, like heres your space blanket and heres your aluminum foil, and explain all this science and instruments and then let creativity take place. I will tell you i have had parents get involved in the process so after one experience apparent called and said my son wanted a Spiderman Party but after coming to your event he now wants a national party. I wish there were some measuring analytics, all i can know is that i think were all called to put that drop of science, for those of us were super passionate about it and pray that everyone elses putting their dropin. Thank you. Frankly, we have an advantage. Space and dinosaurs are like of natural interest to kids. How is it not exciting. Youre going on a mission to mars. Its a natural fit for us. We have advantage over other industries will refrain from getting into that. Ill go to you. This is where i make you work for. So you are a leader in air force development Aerospace Industry but youre also the mother of three Challenger Center students, all who turned into stem professionals i have two questions for you. First, what has the industry been doing that you believe is working. What takes the program to be put together, and second, what do you do to keep your children interested in stem, elementary, middle, high school and college. How did you do it personally. Thank you for asking. Ill start with the first question, what is business doing. Give academia enter academia and industry. That ecosystem working together to kind of resolve some of these issues and get more kids into stem. We know parents, teachers, counselors, grandparents are working on Getting Communications to the parents that stem is exciting. Our industry depends on it. To hear you say theres a shortage of teachers again in the profession is not well respected. Im a former teacher. My masters is all in education. I taught high school for number years and went into business for most of my career so i have had dual background and it breaks my heart to hear that. Ill take that on to see what i can do from an industry perspective. Starting early with prek, businesses realize we have early Brain Development. I spent a lot of my career talking about neuroscience and Brain Development so i wont bore you with that, but the fact is three and 4yearold kids, when the brain is developing, its critical they learn how to problem solve and learn how to learn. At risk kids dont always have the opportunity to go to preschool. What the business industry is doing, in some cases, they are advocating for funding for Early Childhood education. I know we talked about that on our panel call but i cant say enough. In business, we used to work with universities amounts k12 and universities and now we realize we are to get in there and advocate for Early Childhood development for all students. I think thats new and different. We need to talk about the missions that our industry does often time i think manufacturing on the factory floor, the dirty oil all over the place and what were finding is those ideas that were rooted, its certainly not true today. To eat off the floor complaints plans ive been in and robotics and manufacturing that our kids need to learn. We are trying to bring students into the manufacturing plants. Bring them into our companies and show them what we do. Theres nothing like, we talked handson learning, handson and visual recognition of the kind of job we have in our industry because its hard to go to a career fair and say we build drones to and we have software that manages the drones and try to relate to things kids would understand. Our biggest competition is not each other. Not the companies with each other, its more google and amazon and Silicon Valley jobs. They know what google does and they dont see us in their everyday life. Lastly, were trying to talk to them about Career Advancement and salary levels, help with student debt. Sometimes companies that attract them are offering scholarships and thats new and different. I didnt see that eight or ten years ago. So other than education policy, working as an ecosystem, kind of what were doing in terms of programs, and as far as my children go, and ill make this short, i do have stem children, students or Young Professionals now. They had this image of a mom who did Community Relations and i have a lot of evening and weekend activities that we were managing and we supported the Challenger Center. We supported space camp. I drug my kids to everything. In Elementary School they went to the High School Science first because i had to present the awards for the companies and things like that. I have to say they had more an advantage of seeing the kind of stem opportunities and meeting adults, but if i take that out of the equation, the fact that i had that work as a profession, exposing kids to the space camp and challenge centers. I love the fact that my daughter met sally ride in her space camp suit. Even though shes married now, shes a software trainer, get your kids ready, take those advanced courses early on, algebra in the eighth grade, tried to get into hightech high schools were just regular high schools i have advanced courses. Make the career choice is yours. If you dont get the courses in place, then youre not going to have as many choices. Whether you pursue these kinds of careers were talking about are not, at least you have the opportunity to make those decisions. Critical thinking in Elementary School, i think thats another great program. My kids did junior achievement. I taught junior achievement. Thats about starting a business. How do you start a business, whats the marketing, what kind of budget you want to set. Also robotics, first robotics is another program. Just to see what those kids have to do, my son did first. My youngest is an engineer. I have to throw out all out for scouts because hes an eagle scout, and to be an eagle scout you have to design the project and defend that project, how are you going to carry it out. Fifty do that in front of a group of adults. This is one of the greatest stories i tell young people. He built a bridge at our church camp and what was interesting is that he Learned Leadership skill is you have to lead other teams. Thats all part of being an eagle scout. When hes a freshman engineerings duden at virginia tech, theyre interviewing older jobs for a factory job here and he goes in other freshman, hes youngest of my three and he says im an interview, what the heck all these kids were coming out white faced and he said whats wrong in that room they said at the panel he set out. Hes used to talking to a panel of men and scouts in particular and he gets an internship as a freshman. I thought those are things you dont talk about. How do you communicate. How do you give your kids experiences. Have you have them up there fill out and work with adults and learn how to speak with adults. That communication and collaboration. Those are so critical. So what i said the parents is expose your kids as many things as you can. My middle daughter is a cpa in new york city, a very different stem field but yet she did a lot of the early math when she was in third grade. The other thing i did is i minimized the amount of computer time and it was easier back then than it is now, but our kids played board games, they went outside, they did summer camps, they learn survival skills in Girl Scout Camp and things like that, give your kids a variety of things. I think thats rubberstamping and hearing appear with what you do in the schools, but i could go on and on about the kids and i wont bore you. Thank you robin. I did that purposely because otherwise id be talking about my kids for the next eight hours. We have time for one more quick question. We set this up is kind about what is the problem, whats the solution, but im all about action and we are trying, every day to help kids inspire them. Im ask ask each of you. You have a room of aerospace professionals. You have the opportunity. You have made huge change peoples lives. Whats your call to action. What can you specifically do. What is one or two things you can do . Love and love are with you. What action would you give a that i will ask you to the professional workforce regularly talk to these people. What would you give to the students. I wrote these down so i could go through that really fast. There wasnt just one or two. Take ap courses so you have more choices when you choose college path in your career path. But those choices be yours. The others to get involved in them extracurricular. You talked about the Challenger Center and odyssey and first robotics theres a number of them. Do as many as you can read plus the sports thing dont to sports, my students were all in sports. Balance that out. Seek out internships, apprenticeships, go on informational interviews. Talk to Business People for folks to do their job and their career path and how did they get to where they are. I really cant encourage you enough to go out and try, even if its unpaid, opportunities in the Business Community to learn about how business work. It really helps you with your education down the road. Those leadership skills, et cetera. At the end, have fun in life, have balance in your life, work hard and play hard. That was my fathersmantra and ive kind of picked that up and i do both. I have a real balance in my life and i think thats important. You will make a better employee if you have balance. Explore all your options. What i used to tell so many students, when they said is not always cool to be in first robotics in high school and its kind of a 30 thing. I said just remember the spirit all those Football Players that are making fun of you, bill b play carrying your bag one day. Though be working for you. Knock them dead. Thank you jerry. Turning the other way. I want you to talk to the no space professional industry. With the decision can they do to get involved and help the students. Im going to borrow a phrase that we use in virginia. We are one of the first counties on the east coast to have a Bright Futures organization. Its a Community Organization thats all of the different businesses together to partner with School System and we set about giving your time, your talents or your content and or your treasure. From the perspective of time, i was avn engaged role model for students in your local school. Start young. We talked about that. Be a mentor to a young student. We are in good need we need good mentors, especially men for children who may not have a father figure or a solid male figure in their life. Thats a big need and is invaluable. When you give of your talent, you can share your expertise and show students possibilities come you can help the teachers in the School Figure out how to incorporate things into their curriculum or their classroom, and you can just be someone who is there to help and inspire the kids on a daily basis. Treasure, i know people always think were hitting everyone up for money, and to an extent that is true, but thats because in an age where we are expecting more and more of our students and more of our teachers, we are also in an age where worse struggling with being defunded in the public schools. We dont have the funding to put toward some of the programs we would really like to have, whether its sending children to Challenger Centers. We have a center thats not far away but not of al all of our students get to go to starbase because they can only offer so many session and will have funding for so many buses. Were making those kinds of choices on a daily basis. Anytime you can provide meaningful experiences or opportunities that they wouldnt otherwise have, we encourage that a welcome mat. Thank you. Janet, i like you to address the students. Whether they going to send fielder not, i know you worked directly with a lot of young people. I have taught science and dance, musical theater, what i want to say to any young people here and especially those of you out there in the balcony, always dream big. Life really isnt about finding yourself as much as it is about creating yourself. Chris hatfield has a great graphic that says dont let life kick you into the adult you dont want to become. Its your choice and whether you become a cap dancing pharmacist and you your art and science live sidebyside, it matters not. Space will be pretty boring if theres not a good storyteller, artist or musician on board to mars. Allow yourself to be imperfect. Professionalism will kill creativity because you spend too much time thinking you have to be perfect. There are so many engineers and scientists that can list their failures and it would be less long than their successes but it was because of their failures that they were finally able to be successful. Allow that failure. I know nasa have a thing that failure is not an option, but maybe it should be because when i see experiments go awry, thats when the learning happens. The last i would ask yourself is, what would you do if you knew you could not fail. I asked that to the entire crowd. Then i would go pursue that. Wow. I think i just found my new mentor in life. They have helped people launch a lot of successful lives and career. As moderator, i would like to take my moment. At the Challenger Center, we recognize all of these issues, and the first step is to ask you in this audience, and were asking everyone, just take this first step. Take a pledge to say im going to do something. Any one of these things. That Challenger Center, to help you solidify that youre going to do it and you put your name down and youre going to do it. We actually have martians of tomorrow. Thats not just a title, thats in a whole campaign, if you go to challenger. Org you can go in on that alone asked for money or anything like that is just for you to samba to do something about it and you can say what you want to do. The funding is, if you go to our website, if you would like, you can take a quiz and ill take you through a series of questions about your interests and you will find out, if you were going to mars, what teammate you would be on this trip. Would you be the biologist or the chemist for the navigation officer for the communication specialist. Weve been having a lot of fun in the office comparing who would be what. I really encourage you, all of you to go take that pledge. Were trying to start a movement in this country to get behind Stem Education. I see we have maybe a few minutes maybe five minutes left so im going to open it up to the floor for questions from the audience and so there are microphones upfront, if you question stand up and come down to the microphone. We will be happy to answer any question you might have. I see somebody standing and yes, theyre coming here and not the bathroom thats a good sign. Was my daughters favorite science teachers was actually his second career. He was a scientist and then he came back to the classroom. Do you know of any efforts to bring retired scientist back into the classroom as a second career . Thank you. I think jerry might be the best answer that. I can speak to virginia and what virginia has been working on. We have programs through the Community Colleges local universities that people who have had a career ready and want to get into teaching can enter into those career programs and their certain courses they need to have before entering into classrooms, although, i know i legislation was just trying to make some of that little easier and open it up. We do hire folks who come out of different fields. Were always on the lookout for people who have lived those expenses because they have a lot to offer to our students. I will tell you, many of them dont stay very long, especially at the High School Level. They come in and they teach for a semester or two and they decide that is not at all they want to do and they quickly flee. Will look for folks who are interested in that and have a passion for students. Showing. Have a passion for kids. No matter what it is you think your teaching, you are teaching students. You might teach math or science or biology, but you are teaching students. If you dont have a passion for kids first it is not a field for you. Alters dad in their that Challenger Center we actually have lots of scientists, engineers who retire and they love the exploration and love working with kids in there actually are quite directors. They dont have any better job. Its like theyre flying to mars every day with the kids. I think that exchange helps. Whats your advice for kids who come to love a stem field later in life either through high school or college. What is your advice for them. Its a great thing, theres a great book you might enjoy called creating the innovators of the future. They say let our Children Play and in the midst of our play they may find their passion and their passion they may find their purpose. I think it goes back to what she said earlier. Throw that out the door. Figure out what theyre most interested in and what that pathway is because we all learn differently. I come as a creator. Sometimes ill turn on ted and see things in ways that if i were trained as a scientist i might not otherwise ask a question about. Let them be their unique selves. Let me and jen let them play with their passion even if its later in life. In the middle of that they may find a connection and a doorway that havent yet been opened. There is plenty of time. Even if you have, if you graduated with your bachelors with english degree, i can tell you from a personal story, ive worked at nasa for 20 years and theres plenty of time to change paths. Especially young people today. They can pursue it and if you find your passion, dont be afraid of it. Find your mentors. , High School Student and i just recently got super interested in space. How can i, as my peers and to. Im an attorney it over to somebody else. A number of things, are you involved in some of these stem activities after school or they say they dont want to do it . Maybe. I would really like to but as of now i dont have time. Ill try for next year. Start with something they might be passionate about at the High School Level. They could be robotics, its not always all about building the robot. Its about raising money and marketing and coming up with the team logo and all those art skills are talking about. Thats one idea or pick something of your interest. Or call us up in the industry and we can connect you with folks out an industry that have really cool jobs, awesome Aerospace Jobs and get motivated to see what kind of jobs you can get with a stem career. You kind of need to see that light at the end of the tunnel. If theyre not enjoying math and science classes early on and they dont see how that applies in their career, thats a tough sell. Perhaps due to things. One of the High School Level with your peers but another is to try to connect with industry. Thank you so much. All speak for myself, stay here after words, ill give you my contact information. Id love to give you ideas on all the different programs im aware of that you could get involved in because it is, youre going to have to find those passions and connect into it. We can give you a range of things. Summer camp is a great one. That shortterm and theres so many cool ones out there you can be a champion out there. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. Tonight on cspan, at 8 00 p. M. Eastern, and depth look at the opioid epidemic. What is different about this drug problem that we have is how pervasive it is. It is absolutely everywhere. Its in our smallest communities in our cities. Its in our most affluent suburbs. Friday at 8 00 p. M. , a profile interview with secretary of health and human services, tom price. I think my passion for trying to help people in my passion for a healthy society, this just feels like the culmination of a lifes work. The 20 plus years in critical practice that i had caring for patients which was incredibly rewarding overlaps with the 20 plus years in the representative life both in state, senate and congress. To have the opportunity at this pivotal time in our nations history in the Health System that we have to lead this Remarkable Department is as fulfilling as anything. Followed by conversation with Supreme Court Justice Elena kagan. You said at the beginning of the conversation, we are not a cure to democracy, where institutional democracy. They said the fiduciary has an Important Role to play in policing the boundaries. That can make the judiciary an unpopular set of people when they say to a governor or president , you cant do that because its just not within your constitutional powers. Watch on cspan and cspan. Org and listen using the free cspan radio app. We been on the road meeting winners of this year student cam documentary program. In michigan, firstplace winner jared clark 13000 for his documentary on the rising cost of pharmaceutical drugs. The second place prize of 1500 went to classmate mary sire for her documentary on mass and incarceration and minimum sentencing. Third place winner rebecca 1750 for her documentary on gender inequality. An Honorable Mention prize was awarded for 250 for documentary on the relationship between the police and the media. Thank you to all the students who participated in our 2017 student cam documentary program. To watch any of the videos, go to student cam. Org student cam 2018 starts in september with the theme, the constitution and you. We are asking students to choose any provision of the u. S. Constitution and create a video illustrating why the provision is important. On monday, a total Solar Eclipse will be visible from coast to coast in the u. S. For the first time in 99 years. We spoke to an astronomer to find out a little more about what to expect. A professor from the university of missouri is cochair of the american astronomical eclipse task force. You have been working for more than a year to prepare the American People for this total Solar Eclipse. What kind of work have you