Transcripts For CSPAN2 Theresa May And Jeremy Corbyn Face Voters Ahead Of June 8 Election 20170605

Economy, negotiation solid present trends decision to withdraw from the paris climate. Change agreement. This is 90 minutes. Tonight, the Prime Minister theresa Prime Minister theresa make him a leader the conservative party in the leader of the labour party, Jeremy Corbyn, welcome to question time. Over the next 90 minutes, the leaders of the two larger parties are going to be quizzed by our audience here in new york. The audience is made up like this, just a third say they intend to vote conservative next week. The same number say the rest support other parties and make up their minds. You can comment on all of these either on twitter but alsosu facebook as usual and 3981. Press the button. The leaders, just as important, dont know the questions. Conserre going to be put to them tonight. First, to face her audience, please welcome the leader of the conservative party, the Prime Minister, theresa may. [applause] thank you. [applause] thank you. Is good evening. The first question comes from abigail e. Top. Why should the public believe anything you say or policieses that have a known track record of broken promises and back tracking your time as home secretary and now Prime Minister. Cloud by thank you, abigail. First of all, good evening tove. Everyone in thank you for being an audience tonight, which is an important part of the Election Campaign. Let me tell you about the things i did as home secretary. I said that i would ensure we were dealing with extremist hate speeches and i excluded more than any home secretary before me. I said i would do something about stopping the search because i dont make anyone should be stopped and searched on the streets of our country. I said i would be tough on crime and i said i would ensure our police and Security Services have the powers they need to be able to do their job. I gave them those in the legislation that i brought through. And i made sure that they kept the records of criminals and terrorists in the dna database and i dont think thats a good idea because that helps us catc] criminals. So no backtracking. Broken p [applause] what were you thinking of . Well, you have backtracked as Prime Minister. You backtracked when he became leader of the conservative and immediately Prime Minister after the e. U. Referendum. He said he would call an election and you did and then you are calling an election refusing to take part in debate, refusing to ask people questions, refusing to talk to Jeremy Corbyn and you backtracked on your social policy in your entire manifesto has holes in it. And when asked if they thought. [applause] well, first of all first of all, can i say im not worth using to take place in debates because inherent in questions for me this evening and thats what i think is important in an Election Campaign is notpo politicians arguing each other, but actually listening and taking questions from voters. You mentioned about saying ig wouldnt hold an election and now holding one. Youre right. We need a period of stability when i became Prime Minister. What became clear to me when we went to the article xv process that the European Union to respect the will of the british people with other parties wanted to frustrate those negotiations and wanted to frustrate outlet for people that have been expressed in a referendum vote. It wouldve been easier. It could have sent an Prime Minister another couple of years. Why dont i just cant hang on in the job. But i didnt do that. I call an election because brexit. I was going to do that because i think its an important moment for our country. Weve got to get this right. If we get it right, im optimistic for the british people because i believe in the british people, but we need to get a right. [applause] yes, the women there. Who was it that contested here . Labor has clearly issued it clearly issued a with article l being passed beside the lib dems have said they would like another referendum. I dont understand who has contested your leadership prei5 brexit. I was important. It triggered the ability for us to start these negotiations and those negotiations, by the way, start 11 days after election day next week. Whoever comes in as primee minister, whoever comes in this government has got to be ready to get the ball rolling and start those negotiations straight away. It was clear through discussions we had around that time that the other parties did want too frustrate us. You talk about liberal democrats. We have a situation at the moment where it Jeremy Corbyne was to get into number 10 he would be propped up by the liberal democrats and scottish nationalists. You have diane abbott around the cabinet table, Don Macdonald is a marxist, Nicola Sturgeon wants to break our country up and take us back into the e. U. The direct opposite of what the british people want. [applause] that being said, primewoul minister, one of the things i would like to know a secretly do you really regret calling this election . Ion, n now the polls have moved against you. But a tory, but you must feel a little bit of remorse, no . Now, ive been in politics quite a long time and ivehave w always had the only poll that matters is the one takes place on polling day. I think the british people when they are voting, people here and people watching and others have a very simple choice about who do you trust to have that leadership to take us to get the best deal, brexit in europe and whos got the will and the vision not just to take us through and get on with the job of delivering brexit, but take us beyond and build a Better Future for this country. We surprised theyve gone from a lead of 20 when you called the election . I never surprised. I am never surprised that things that happen during election time because the only poll i look at is the one that takes place on election day. All right. You, sir. You called the election for your own political gain. Nothing for your own political gain. No its not, sir. I say to you is that you said, it would have been the easiest thing in the world for me havinn become Prime Minister after the referendum when David Cameron t designed to save the next election is not 20 johnny. I enjoy doing this job. Fo in this job, i do what i believe is the best for britain. I couldve stayed doing on the job for another couple of years. Said the good of the conservative Party Company called a general election for the good of the country and its going to backfire. [applause] no, i called the general election because i believe thehe british people have a right to vote and say what they want to see leading them through the negotiations. I believe they should have a dirt who has been absolutely resolute determination to respect for their well. I party is the only party that will respect the will of the british people, get on with the job and deliver a successful brexit. [applause]om one more point from you. I think it is a very different thing to debate a studio audience as they debated the other leaders. Theres been a lot of debating through the media. Would it not give a more interesting debate how do you say these things facetoface to the other theaters and speak that way about policy than true tv and true journalists. [applause] may i i think Election Campaign should be about getting out ande about answering questions from voters, meeting people, talking to people across the u. K. In a whole variety of circumstances. E im afraid i think actually having the interaction with voters is more useful. Anybody who wants to be Prime Minister should be out and about listening to what people are thinking. I dont think seven politicians arguing amongst themselves is actually that interesting orpp that revealing. I want to go on because we talked about the election. Good evening. Tter t no deal would be better than a deal. Im confident we can get a good deal with the right plan for those negotiations because i think a good deal is in our interest in the interest of the rest of the e. U. We have to be prepared to stand up for britain. We have to be prepared to go in there, recognizing we are not willing to accept. People are very confused pretty top of the times about ideals. Explaining your mind will be a bad deal. Ia on the one hand, david, youve got politicians in europe, some of whom are punishing the u. K. For leaving the e. U. What they want to see in terms of that punishment would be at n bad deal. Secondly, politicians here in the United Kingdom who seem to be willing to accept any deal would ever do is just for the sake of getting a deal. The danger is they be expecting the worst possible deal at the highest possible price. [applause] at evening. You always say you want to search for people in britain,wh but the transfer was started by 90 . How is the whole country just 52 backed the brexit. The first thing i would say as i go around and talk to people, individuals, business representatives and others, i find that actually the glacial majority of opinion here in the u. K. Now the decision was taken, the public was given theire choice, they chose to leave theh European Union. Both have a government that gets on with it and delivers a gooddn deal. How i would respond for all those who voted to remain and i voted to remain in effect now we must make sure we get the negotiations right. We get the good free trade agreement, continued cooperation of a deep and special partnership with the e. U. , but also take this opportunity ofcan brexit, new trade deals around the rest of the world, seeing how we can build a more prosperous, stronger and fairer. We can do that because i believa in britain and i believe in the british people. [applause] just over a year ago when you were a remain are an David Cameron got this wrong and resigned. Otd you got it wrong and remade to become Prime Minister. He said remaining in tied to European Union makes us more prosperous. Yesterday you said brexit makes us more prosperous. Where you had on this . I set up very carefully before the referendum but i the. Believe that balance we should stay in the e. U. I also said the sky will not fall in if we leave the e. U. But then happen is the british people would have been the choice. T parliament decided to say its your choice. They chose bishop leave the e. U. Weve got to make sure that we can actually use the opportunity that, from brexit. Fundamentally, the thing that i think matters the most in the most indians has been willing to deliver on the will of the people. Not saying you got it wrong, lets have a second referendum,m they saying you voted, youve chosen, you want a governmentsa thats going to do it for you. If you voted for Brexit Community together but the government who will actually deliver it for you. But the people who chose made the wrong choice. Out . And then you said they will get if they stay. If they leave they will be poorer. Can you honestly say theres no difference will get richer by leaving the same as if we done if we wouldve remained or is there going to be a price to pay. It is at the time their advantages in the e. U. , that now what i believe we must do is deliver on the will of the people, but also make sure we make success of it what im doing the same of kindness opportunities that will enable us to be more prosperous in the future. Too much of me. E. The man of there. Good evening. Is increasingly likely we will have to pay the speculated anything between nothing to 100 million. Could you quantify and billions of pounds what is a good deal . Well, i am not going to give you a figure im not for two al reasons. First of all because we need to go through very carefully whether as part of theotiati negotiation, what rights and obligations the United Kingdomne has. Secondly, if i gave you a figure tonight if i am Prime Minister [applause] it is better money hes spending. Its all of our money, taxpayers could you dont go into negotiating say nothing i want out of this is ask because you can bet your Bottom Dollar the other side will make sure you dont. You think youll have to agree before they talk about trade and all the rest of it . Theyve been very clear as has the e. U. Recognizing we need to negotiate the relationship with them, which will be aboutio trade, but about other things, too. Cooperation on security and criminal justice. They want to start off by talking about the bill. I want the early discussions to be about reciprocal arrangement for u. K. Citizens. They havent said we cant negotiate the trade deal until weve agreed to build. We need to make sufficient progress and with several of them said is we need to get the trade deal quickly. One in the very back. You said you think you can negotiate a good deal, but do you think you have any real leverage of brussels . Well, yes i do. One of the reasons we can negotiate a good deal is because actually it could deal in trade terms is not just a benefit to the u. K. It is a benefit to their many businesses remaining in the European Union. It isnt just about us. If thats the relationship that matters to them as well as that matters to us. You over here on the right. The comment about the miscalculations he made a few minutes ago. Philip hammond, the chancellor of the exchequer got 20 billion a few weeks ago. [applause] well, what i will say is this. As i said earlier on comment diane abbott wants to be home secretary and she wants to wipe the records of criminals and terrorists from the dna database. That would mean they could catch fewer criminals and fewer terrorists. [applause] talk about brexit. 48 i think a 52 to 40 , you lack the confidence asking one right time because the voting was so in the middle. I think nigel farage and a big mass. And boris johnson, replaced with 350 million. Even people who voted out, perhaps they should be given the confidence to say, shall we have another vote . M can i just put it like this . Over the years in the European Union and its the European Economic community, there have been a number of occasions forla referendums have been held in countries. Northern ireland, frances example as well but they voted against what the e. U. By suggesting and basically the bureaucrats in the e. U. Turned around to those countries and said she got it wrong. Have another vote. We want you to come up with the right answer. You can come back in a minute. At that time, people here in the u. K. Said you know what, that is not the way to behave. The people have given their choice. Lets listen to the people and actually deliver on it. Om. [applause] you were given the right information to choose from. You, sir. Earlier this week he said he wanted the people of britain to trust you with regards to train for and winning the election. O how can the people trust you when your manifesto is not given the detailed figures are what you propose to do with all the things in government . [applause] well, what my manifesto youre right i use that word tries. Thats the politicians when we go out and asked people to vote for us, we are asking people to trust us and the role we are being want to be voted into. If i look at our manifesto, what our manifesto has done is to be open with people about the great challenges that we believe this country faces enemies to be addressed by whoever is in government. Weve been open about that. Ive also been opened that there will be some hard choices to be made in addressing those various challenges. You talk about the figures in our manifesto. Of course, we are to have budgets that are being sent out in the autumn statement as government and in the Spring Budget and weve added some figures in various areas like extra funding on the nhs and schools in the manifesto. I think it is important that the next government should set out for people the really big issuev that are going to have to be addressed by whoever is in government and those are in our manifesto. The one thing that was missing from your manifesto in thing to cause a panic in the conservative party is the figures on what happens to people who have to fund their care in old age. We have a question about it from derek are thin. The you kind of spend your whole life obviously working hard to build up a nest egg and have a nice little pensions savings that you can be comfortable inin your late life if you retire. But its all going to be taken away from you again. Essentially why should you even other in the first place . A reminder that your manifesto said 100,000 pounds is all youll be left with. To figure you are left with his 23,000 pounds so we are quadrupling. I thought you change that. I thought youd have an upper limit. Thats the floor. You didnt mention the cat. He didnt mention the manifesto. That the point. [inaudible] [applause] if we look at the situation at the moment, if you need care, then he took up more than 23,000 pounds in savings, you have to pay for that care. The value of your house will be taken into account. It is today that we see people having to sell their house iny order to pay those bills. What we say if the system would introduce, which is important because we need a sustainable system for the future given the aging population. If we do nothing we say that we will ensure that people are able to protect more of their savings, the 100,000 pounds. They will also not have to sell the house during a lifetime toll pay for the bills. I also wanted a system that was fair across the generations and they believe this is, too. We consult on the details. After i manifesto was published and i sat out one of the details, the aspects that wouldve been in consultation, which is about having a cap on that level. You can protect 100,000 and will consult on what would be the cop. Is rather important for people. Whether you get rid of half a million or 250,000. And then you suddenly said there will be a cat that we wont charge you more. We set out the principles in our manifesto is which are the ones i set ones i sent out an answer which is crucially its fair across the generous nations. They have the knowledge and comfort of knowing they dont have a sell the house in a lifetime to pay for their care. From a personal lives, so we are both disabled. Statistically as we get older we are more likely to need that care. W are there any safeguards are guaranteed that we are not going to be left bankrupt in our retirement because the definition we have no control over. Want [applause] what i want to do in relation to the details of the policy and how it works is to consult with people, consult with voters, organizations and others working with older people so we ensure we get that right. That is the fairway to do do it rather than just producing now. It is important to have that consultation. He cap [applause] if you can tell us that the floors now, why cant you tell us the cap . [applause] we are talking about two different things, arent we . On the floor, we think it is important we gave the protection of their savings which is greater than it is today. Thats where we set the figure at 100,000. On the cap as to where you set the absolute figure people pay, i think its right we have consultation. As i just said with individuals, but also organizations that deal with these issues, the charities that work with people to make sure we get that at the right level. We had a cap a couple yearsnm ago. Why cant we have a surface something around that figure . We said we were following the deal. We were going to follow the w proposals and there were two reasons why. They can do to protect people who are wealthier but didntr protect people on the modest incomes. Secondly, required payment that of taxation. If youre going to be fair across the generation, we dont ask young people to be having their taxes increased in order to pay for the social care costs is somebody people who may be sitting on a suit to give value in their house. [applause] victoria davis. For 26 years to the tories expect our support and another 1 pay increase . [applause]ture i what we are looking on in terms of the National Health service and ensuring weekend provide a National Health service in the future is we just look at how much money is now being spent on the nhs. In the five years at 2020, we will be spending half a trillion pound. We are putting more money at the moment and will continue to put our money into the future into the nhs. But it is important that we recognize as you will know as a nurse that a nurse the demands on the nhs are increasing all the time. We recognize the work that the nhs staff do. Nurses get paid less than last. Nurses get an increase and obviously other pay as well. No, no. 14 since 2010. Let the person next you say. I agree with. The 2009 reflects exactly what im earning today. How can that be fair in light of what the job we actually do. I recognize the job you do. We have had to take some hard choices across the public set to in relation to Public Sector. We did that because of thede decisions we had to take to bring public spending under control because it wasnt under control under the last labors f government. Ive been honest with you, but there isnt a money tree we can shake that provides for everything people want. [applause] u. S. A. You could spending, but you also cut taxes to the rich. [applause] we are not actually cutting nhs spending. We are putting in fact record vessels as spending and we will continue to increase funding for the National Health service in government. Other countries spend way more of their Health Service than we do, but we are given houses three. Why are we spending less . Will come in the figures do vary, but its not the case at all of the countries are spending more money on their nhs and we are. We are putting more funding into the nhs. We will continue to do that. I also want to do some other things in relation to the nhs. We have put into a requirement that Mental Health should be getting parity with physical health of the nhs. With more money going into it, theres more for us to do in our manifesto and we sat out a whole package of what we can do a Mental Health. Its not just money going in the nhs which will in greece. It is about ensuring that we are addressing the issues we need to and i think Mental Health is sent to them being put to one side for too long and not being given the attention it deserves. Do you think its fair to nurses get a 1 increase year in year out regardless of inflation so some of them go to food banks. Is that fair . Do you sleep happy at that . The Public Sector has been a 1 increase. Of course, there will be those working within the nhs, nurses and others who get progression pay increases. Are they not special case nurses compared with other people in the public set there . People the Public Sector across all services are workingc very hard on some jobs we want them to do because they are about looking after us, protecting us, caring for us. But we have to look at Public Sector spending. We have to make sure we are managing money carefully because at the end of the day as they say there isnt a magic money sn Tree Assembly delivers the money everybody wants. You may hear later on that you can ask for anyone but actually you cant. The taxpayers money. I agree. Its so important. I applied on counseling about the end of 2015. My first appointment is next tuesday. I have been waiting a year and a half and i suffered so much of this year. R issues i partially sighted help problems and i went into my assessment and i was asked in detail about suicide attempts and i came out crying because i was so upset because of the way i was treated by that nurse. She forgot to measure my eyesight. She found time to insult me. Thats why its so important that we do deal with Mental Health. Both of you have raised two different issues. One is how we do it until Health Issues in the Health Service and the other is the Work Capability assessment. This is something where we do look at improving how that assessment has taken place. I know that the issue of Mental Health is particularly difficult one to address in terms of this capability assessment. On the National Health service and the other things we would do it at the house, i want to ensure that theres better support supported school so that we have individual members of staff trained in schools who are able to know how to address them. Talking to a young woman at the turn of the year nobody would know what to do with Mental Health problems so she suffered as a result if we can give people. But as i say, make no excuses. The woman in orange there. Sorry, about to go on. Mi it is fair to say that mentam Health Funding is one of the people ask you about dna chess. It concerned me a couple weeks ago when a lady challenge you about her benefit from learning difficulties. You turn around and gave an answer and you really concern me that the Prime Minister of the cok. Apparently doesntt understand a learning disability and Mental Health condition. [applause] she learned about Mental Health and she actually raise Mental Health herself. I recognize this particularwh absue she had was about learning disabilities. Both of these are areas we need to ensure that weve got the ability the early you can identify an issue. The better it is for that individual. The better it will be for the rest of their life. On the Mental Health front as i say im so keen to ensure we get our support in terms of training in school but other things they want to do including in the workplace because too often there is discrimination in relation to Mental Health of the work place. I want to bring in a new Mental Health act, scrap the old Mental Health act, but also change the equality legislation so discrimination on Mental Health would not be possible in the work place. Robert gray come yournot question. Re i am not happy with thekorea. Foreignmade budget and especially why we are giving money to north korea. Can you explain that, please . [applause] i think the commitment weve given him the foreignmade budget is an import one. Its an important one for two reasons. We are the fastestgrowing economy in the g7 last year and one of the most significant economies in the world. It is rightly say we help those people who are less well off mian we are in most developingng countries. Uc during millions of children have the millions of girls who would not be educated were it not for the foreignmade money we were giving. Eign aid but its also about Something Else because it means in certain states it is possible to help to develop the economy, the governance of that state and that is the benefit and protectt the ninth in the United Kingdom. And that is going to be betteraf for us in terms of security for ample. They look carefully at individual companies and payments. Someone holds up the dprk what north korea has been doing in terms of its missiles and its Nuclear Situation and we had another Ballistic Missile test a few days ago. We are very clear that we want to see those changes to north korea in court for china to be influencing those. Does north koreas received money i dont know the details of that. So you are the Prime Minister the country. You dont or the foreignmade is going to government are actually going to benefit its people. If we are putting money inlle two countries, we change the way that we spent the foreign aid budget. In the past, it was all too often to governments. Ed the way the money was then spent. We work through ngos. We work through organizations and they put into countries is targeted on things like education, health and welfare of people and support for the people who are the most vulnerable. Refund from you, sir. Can you explain why it is a great deal more of our largess goes to the rest of the world is not in the form of reddish manufacturers, rather than of cash. It is much easier to avoid having a hospital pocketed then it is a view of million of cash. And its also the case that if this money fed its way through british manufactured and provided british jobs, they would he must country much less contention concerning the sums of money. Can you answer briefly . First of all, some of the money we are talking about is not in the sense of things that are manufactured here. If youre talking about education, its about providing the facilities for children who would not otherwise be educatedi are being educated. But we do give support to countries in ways other than just the money. There are some countries were indeed our military are working on a site field hospitals and providing those directly. If they want to improve british manufacturing around the world, that is what i want to ensure good trade agreement and the European Union. State schools are underfunded why you put money into steak soon are beneficial to our abilities. [applause] what we are doing. Grammar schools and the great sector. And other types of schools. We want diversity of education. I want every answer to get the best possible youngster getting the education that is right for them. We are actually putting money into possibilities to be set up. Though we are also increasing. The overall modified that goes into schools and the distribution across the money. I believe it is that if we know theyre a good schools out there, at the moment we have a lot that says you can set up any more of these schools despite the fact that they are good. That is wrong. We should allow those grammar schools to be set up so we ensure every child and the best possible start in life. Tion rigt every single child in a cool wellreceived 898 pounds per year less. My question to you is why do you care less about the children . I dont care less about the children. S i want u. S. A. In the per child ther 898. I do care about education. As i just sent in response, it is so important to get the best start in life. That is why we will be putting more money overall into the schools. We will be ensuring that google premium for those who are disadvantaged, but a Fair Distribution of school funded. At the moment as he possibly know, some schools get twice the amount of money per pupil than schools in other parts of the country. I want to see a fairer funding will make sure the school sees the budget cut. Getting a good quality education isnt just about money going into schools. We are encouraging people in the teaching profession seleucus student loan forgiveness will come to teach and stay and teach. So if the innovation and creativity and education. We are genuinely can say in this country that how far you go in life depends not on where youve come from but it depends on your talents and abilities and willingness to work hard. Lets have your question. Why havent you hide the lessons of donald trump come down in his decision to go up to Parent Climate change agreement. [applause] i havent because i actually have spoken to donald trump and told in the u. K. Believes in the Paris Agreement and we didnt want the united days to leave u the Paris Agreement. The g7 leaders sat around the table last week and spoke to the six of us say we believe the Paris Agreement was an International Agreement that we needed the United States to stay in it. He ive spoken to him. I spoke to him last night. They havent signed the letterng either. What did he say . He said hes taken the decision because its in the best interest of america. The Paris Agreement is import for us globally in terms of dealing with time change. Thats why the u. K. Force it and is continuing. Youre negotiating our departure from the e. U. Wouldnt it have been sensible emperor had to go along with france and germany and italy ann sign a letter being released, you just said you were disappointed by this decision. Not a question of whether or not we should go along with wo somebody else. Dy els i spoke to donald trump, told him ive used last week. I told him last night what our views are. We remain committed to the pari. Agreement and internationally. Im afraid the first half of the program. Thank you very much. Use] and now the leader of the labour party, Jeremy Corbyn. [cheers and applause] good evening, mr. Corbyn. Our first question comes fromul karen had worked, please. Why should the British Public negotiate trust you and your peers to negotiate brexit . Thank you for inviting me. Im saying this is not a debate. This is a series of questions. [applause] we are very clear on brexit. An a decision was brief. We are leaving the European Union. Secondly, we will immediately legislate in office to guarantee the right to remain in this country. Secondly, we will negotiate with the European Union to guarantee trade access to the European Markets and protection of the conditions weve achieved through the e. U. Membership. Its crucial to protect her Manufacturing Industry. Your point about our negotiating team. We have a great team of very experienced people. One of the leading players of this country i think i can trust negotiatinegotiati ons more than some other people who are sadertaking this negotiations. On questions last night, your International Trade secretary said that britain would absolutely be poorer off totr leaving the e. U. Do you agree with that . I dont think we necessarily would be poorer. I hope we will retain the trade access and i hope also that well have a labor government that will be investing in the growing economy in this country in challenging the terrible levels of inequalities exist in this country at the same time. You, sir. David cameron went to the e. U. And after a few concessions got nothing because they knew they would stay in the e. U. If they understand the position that is a bad day, youve got np chance. [applause] we accept the results of the referendum in import to go fromb that point. Ive made the point also about the need to trade actions for the European Union and there is of course an interest on both sides of the channel. Most of her Manufacturing Companies that supply chainsy here in europe and vice versa. There is a mutual interest inn this. But we are not approaching this negotiations by threatening her. We want to continue the relationship outside the European Union. Is what do you think the british people meant who voted to leave. But is that actually mean to you. What is it that matters andft not. We withdraw from the 72 means decision made by the British Government at that time to join the European Union. It means that there is no longer a legislative authority over u. K. Law within the e. U. Any consent for it. It means we have to have an independent and separate t relationship with the European Union and i think weve got two years to negotiate it and i cant wait to get dirty to make sure we do retain Manufacturing Industry and Service Industry jobs in that are so essential to our economy and economic growth. Is here and to remain in the Single Market . Do you think thats possible . Are in the study terrorist free access to european we should put it in those terms rather than anything else at this stage. User over there. Now, the man over there. That is it. Thank you. Will you rule out doing a deal in the event of the parliament and expect with the e. U. At that time. We are fighting this election to win and we are mounting a fantastic campaign to get that i message across that how different our society and politics could be. We are contesting on the can to chew it these. We are not looking to do deals with anybody. We are not forming a coalition government. I want to form a labor government with the majority to carry out this Amazing Program which we give so much hope and opportunity. [applause] it wasnt the answer to my i question. I got your question was about deals and i said no deals. Ive got to go to somebody else. You sir are the blue shirt. Given the absence of the european courts of justice, how would you uphold the accountability posed brexit as we are already breaching limitse to the european courts of justice to hold into account what will happen when we leave the e. U. . The environmental protocols are adopted into u. K. Law. I think its very important to do that. Its also absolutely crucial for the future of all of us that we have agreement with all of europe beat a part of the e. U. Are not on air pollution, airti quality, see pollution ando achi protection of our national environment. Im very determined to achieveee that. Since you raised the subject come i utterly deplore donald trump decision to any other leader that brought back straightaway. Lets come home for a moment. Lets have your question, please. Good afternoon. I run a small local business. First at the possibility of High Corporation tax rates. Lk weve alluded to the uncertainty brexit will create under the next couple of years. Bs today you talk about creatingt jobs. How i can have confidence that those jobs in the eyes of Small Business can create those jobs. I dont know how big or Small Businesses. I employ five people. Small business, but it could grow. Be not good, lets hope it does grow. Specify again what are your problems with the proposalsproe labors . The raising corporationme. Taxes, trade for planning aheade basically. And the personal taxation issues that come you know, create other issues further down the line. Im sure you recognize their huge problems in the funding of our Public Services Health Education and these have to be addressed and dealt with. We have a fully funded manifestf here on out will cost it will raise Corporation Tax up to 26 by the end of the parliament. That will react in 2 lower than it was in 2010 election be less than the g7 average. What it will also do is not raise Corporation Tax for small and medium businesses. We will have no rice was the latter. Il we have had a interesting and good discussions with a lot of Small Businesses about their problems in accessing capital for their problems are growing because banks dont like them and are not interested in them and the need to have an Investment Strategy for this country. On top of that loss of form a National Investment to improve infrastructure across the country and develop new hightechnology industries, which i think are the future of this country, let the people with the skills actually develop the jobs that developed the industrys. Si so yes, we are asked dean the biggest corporations to pay a bit war. I tell you what, i think it is worth it. Is that a young person can go to university and not be with that come is worth it to make suree School Head Teachers dont havei the school day to pay the teachers salary. It is worth it for a Better Society in which everyone can achieve some thing. T i th [applause]h it for jack brown. I am also working for an accounting firm. Large businesses as well. My choice basically in the choice of my clients is a conservative government andla labor government and 2 and a 9 between what conservatives and larger businesses. Rg is a fair question. I would simply say this. All of your clients im sure the workers at various times or they risk higher skilled workers at various times. If we as a society dont look at the problems the router school and Education Systems and invest in properly, where our skilled workers going to come from tomorrow . Where are the consumers of tomorrow . Its time we look at any quality in our society and use a Public Investment to improve services to everybody. Of poverty is a waste. People cant get the education they want and qualifications they want. They all lose. Whether the Community Gets together to support everybody where we let the rich get richer and the rest suffer. [applause] what is the overall increase in attacks take if it comes to power would expect. 48 billion more. Someillion more, which is aa proportion. The funding of it through some new taxes. 95 of the people of this country will pay no more tax or national insurers. The others will be asked to pay a bit more. I think its the right thing to do because it gives us a growin economy. The country as a whole, the economy is always a 10 increass in tax paid by the government. It brings to a question. Jack rouse. Where is jack rouse . Speak the way. [applause] i urge you to read it. I think it is a serious and realistic document that addresses the issues that many people in this country face had we been brave enough to put it out there with other policies than it. How we deal with the School Funding crisis, how we make sure preschools are children, to forget 30 hours of childcare per week for opportunities to play in education and how we bring back the educational so thatof youngsters who are deterred from stain a school or going on to get levels or other qualifications and those that can get into university wont end up with debts of 50,000 or 60,000 at the end. More people suffers. Women usually give up work to care for those who cannot be cared for because theyre not putting enough money into it. They suffer alone and dont get the help and support that they want. We have to respect the needs of and dont get the help and support that they want. We have to respect the needs of people and, frankly, challenge all of us to say if we want tod live in a society generally cares for all, weve got to be prepared to deal with this and pay for it. Im prepared to do that. [inaudible] the chassis office said we no money left. [applause] what i would say is for the past seven years of austerity that austerity takes Public Sector workers with 1 cap, it is it all our schools and Public Services. It is costly housing crisis and do you know what . The very richest in our society have got richer. If been more and more tax giveaways at the top in and more and more charges at the otherme end. Its time to rebalance it. Our manifesto is a serious wellthoughtout document that i believe is getting a lot of support and people are very excited by the idea of how we can do things differently. [applause]he speak you say this manifesto is well thought out and you speak about creating an equal society free from racism and antisemitism. How can i believe a word of this when you as party leader have failed to expel one of your own members for his antisemitic remarks . [applause] there is no place for antisemitism anywhere in our society and certainly not in our party. Members have been suspended ifus they have committed any remarks he has not being held those that have done that are suspended. When the process that is independent of me within the party which investigates these and makes a decision on it. I deeply racism in any form r whatsoever. The way in which the jewish people have suffered down theus centuries, the holocaust and all that went with it was the most appalling state in history ofi mankind. And i believe we have to fight racism in any form with every fiber of our being. A society that cannot challenge racism is a society that is heading for division. I will not tolerate that in our society or anywhere else. [applause] if its something that is so important to you, how are you only suspend him for shortt period of time . How is it not enough to expel them . Has been suspended and further investigations may or may not happen at the electionon but he is suspended. But he suspended so that investigation can take place. I heard you recently commented that black and ethnic minorities potential have been like locked under conservatives and do you plan to kind of free up and unlock it . I does want some clarification and how exactly you plan to do it. Sorry. Nd i didnt fully of the question. A camera right in front of you. Sorry about that. I said there was a recent comment about i read the news about you purporting that black and ethnic minorities potential has been locked under conservatives. I just want simplification as te how you free up or unlock it or help . The issues are of poverty in britain. The issues are of differential levels of spending in city areas compared other areas, and there are serious issues about the number of young black people, particularly young men, who are part of the criminal Justice System in depth in youth custody or youth justice institutions, or those that end up in mentalal health institutions. I think we have to look very seriously at levels of racism within our society. If you like, racism thats almost an institutionalized nature, that has to be looked at. One of the issues with the forward was considered difficult it can be for somebody with an african name or a muslim name to get shortlisted and picked over job compared others strickland suggesting is a suggestion mayr become a policy is that we should have blind applications for jobs where theres no names involved. Merely a description of your skills and ability and your qualifications so that they can be a Fair Assessment of that person. Because we are a multiethnic, multilingual, multicultural society. If it doesnt treat everybody equally and give everybody a decent chance, then we end up with poverty. We end up with discrimination and division. I want see country that comes together and is not divided by poverty or by discrimination. [applause] we may come back to education and the economy in the moment but lets have this question from adam, please. Is britain under Nuclear Threat from Nuclear Reaction to react . I would ever the i can to ensure that any threats is accident with early on by negotiations and by talks, so that we do it here to obligations with Nuclear Nonproliferation treaty, that we do encourage china in its work k in trying to bring about sixparty talks in resolving the issue north korea, and we do follow the leads president obama took in doing a deal with iran which would result in the not developing nuclear capability. I think the idea of anyone ever using a Nuclear Weapons anywhere in the world is utterly appalling and terrible, which result in the dissection of the lives and communities and environment for millions of people. I would be actively engaged to ensure that danger didnt come about. I would also be very aware of other dangers that we face. Cyber attacks hit our National Services a couple of weeks ago. The dreadful terrorist attack in manchester indicates the danger of individual acts of terrorism that can take lives. We have to be secure here. We have to protect our society and our country, but we also have to engage in the rest of the world to make sure we dont have huge ungoverned spaces such as in libya which can become the basis of some terrible events that are going to take the lives of many of the people. We have to deal with thoseake issues here and globally. That is the function of a you onsible government. [applause]ioned to r your party is commissioned to renewing trident. Are there no circumstances in which you use a Nuclear Weapon . I think our party is within trident. That was the decision taken by parliament. I would do the idea of having to use a Nuclear Weapon as something that was resulting in a failure in the whole world diplomatic system. There has to be no first use. Ab there has to be a process of engagement to bring about ultimately Global Nuclear disarmament. Its not can happen quickly. Its not could have been easyy but we have to have that wish. Ar you cannot have a world in which we could all be destroyed by nuclear war. You say no first use, and you wouldnt push the button in first use . In retaliatory use would you use the weapon is there. I would say no first use of the weapon. I think that is to be the basis on what we do. Adam, does answer questions . Its concerning that you would never commit to doing that. We have to look first and foremost for governor. What particularly annoys me is trident just heaven forbid the potential. They goes beyond many, manyit decades into the future. When you are making the decision whether to support this not, its just not right here right now. Its for threats in the future. [applause] fairpoint. But we have to do everything we. Can. Obviously to protect ourselves, but the best protection is having good and reasonable relationships with the rest of the worlds we dont descend into mentality where there are military blocks starting threatening each other. Im utterly determined to do everything i can to bring about a more peaceful world. I spent a lot of my life with u. N. And other organizations trying to bring about principles, no first use, principles of disarmament and principles of bringing about peace around the world. That surely something we can all work for. I think we have to recognize that there is deep inequality and injustice in the world. Herei but the threats are as a said cybersecurity and terrorism. The other threats are actually of environmental disasters around the world and large number of people fleeing from of our mental disaster, by mentalro refugees. Which is why i was so disappointed in president trumps decision taken into of what is been achieved by peoples working together to try and protect and sustain this planet. Weve only got one planet. Et lets get together when we the audit and above all lets that destroyed. [applause] lets not destroy it. [applause] let me just come back to the nuclear issue. You are Prime Minister. You said you would have no first use. You wouldnt counter britains Nuclear Deterrence but your party is a story from rebuilding, maintaining. You wouldnt have a first use. It raises the question, he said under direct attack. Would use in retaliation . As Prime Minister youre speaking to the country that what you do with the most expensive defense weapon that we have. Ost are you saying you would neveryu use it . The most effective use of it is not to use it because its there. Which sorry. Sorry. Youre dodging the question. Are you saying there are no circumstances under which you would use . Any circumstances where anyone is prepared to use Nuclear Weapon is a disaster for the whole planet. That is why there has to be a policy of disarmament, globally, but for multilateral policy not a unilateral policy. What about the reality where your face with a prospect that you may have to use it . [applause] the reality is that we have to obviously try to protect ourselves. We would not use it as first use, and if we did use it, millions are going to die. You have to think this thing through. [shouting] [applause] on to the second subject. Would use it a second use . Would you allow north korea or some idiot in iran to bomb us and then say we better Start Talking . It will be too late. You have to do it personally. [applause] of course not. You would allow them to do it . Of course not. How would you stop and . That is why made the point a short time ago about the need for president obama cream with iran to be upheld. Its quite important actually, and also to promote disarmament in korea. That is difficult i appreciate, but and possible. Well and possible. You up there. You are asking massive wish when youre one of the biggest hassles by your side. Id rather have than not have it at all in special todays day and age. [applause] do you want to comment on that . [laughing] all right. Anybody . The woman there. I have a question regarding human rights. Use your question. I dont know anyone in this room thinks so keen on killing millions of people. This i [applause] i think its worth move movin from that particular debate because were talking about murdering people. Y i want to ask a significant question about your immigration policy fashion specific. You mentioned that you want to reunite families that have been torn apart by current immigration policy. Myself, my husband is recording this at work in america. He was told he was to highly educated despite studying care, under pressure and degree. I want to know whether you would consider reducing the financial threshold for family migration to be for the inline with the National Minimum wage or living wage . Yes. Our manifesto has addressed this issue. It is very painful some of the decisions that are made where the franklin arbitrary level of income was chosen, couples are split apart, films are split apart and people like the person you are talking about have invested huge amount of time and energy into this country, been removed from this country. Ople k who loses . We all lose. The family, the children, we lose as a society. We will change those immigration laws so that they can be proper Family Reunion. I think there has to be the right and sensible thing to do. [applause] are you in favor of reducing immigration overhaul in this country . I think what will happen is this. On fam that we have managed migration from outside europe which is based on Family Reunion and skill needs or investment. We have at the moment Free Movement from within theve European Union. That means we leave the European Union so they left to have managed migration from your. We have to also recognize thatal those of migrated to this country made a massiveve contribution to our society. The health of all of us depends on the work done by many people have made their homes here. What i think will happen is there will probably be somebe reduction in european migration because we will also prevent their being recruitment of groups of lowpaid workers from Central Europe to come here, to undermine existing conditions that are often not very good themselves and damage the life chance the people in this country and be not very good for those of been brought in. We will in overseas only recruitment and end those contractual arrangements for which people brought in particularly for thewe hav construction industry. If i may say so have another issue which we get the address, that is the skill shortage in britain because were not invested enough in a training. We have not invested enough in skill training. Would not invested enough in training more doctors or more nurses in this country. Until we do that they would got a big problem. Our whole approach is about and festive for the future. [applause] said wh im thinking of what your brexit secretary said, which is to spend huge amounts of integration coalesced in use. Think immigratio people are concerned about. It should be reduced. When people voted brexit do you think immigration was at thet forefront of the most. Was i think was a big factor. I dont think was the only factor but it was a big factor. There was also an issue that communities and local governments are not sufficiently funded to deal with groups of people coming in. And so we would restore what gordon brown had in 2009 which was migrant speeded up come to you. Mr. Corbyn, we talked about Nuclear Weapons before but what worries me more assorted screwed up in a Family Business is that changes in minimum wage. I read your manifesto yesterday and you are planning on increasing minimum wage to ten pounds. The current plan for the National Living wage and forecasting up to 60,000 thousand people could lose of jobs because of his increases. So personally, how many jobs, what statistic have yo even givn by your economies or who ever worked for you for how many be lost if the ghost of the ten pounds an hour . Secondly, how will you help the 3 million microbusinesses in United Kingdom who employed many people in the min wage and struggle to do that . Fairpoint and fair question. [applause]s first when minimum wage is first introduced by the Labour Government after 1997 election there were similar concerns of addictions which turned out not to be the case. Affect there was not insubstantial number of jobs aru losses the wage increases were so small it is look at economic comment about that time, the wage increases were so small, all the commentator said that. Thithis is a massive way to cha. Theyre such a bigger margin of air it out in your policies and what was brought in in 1999. What were proposing is ten pounds an hour by 2020. That would be a living wage. That would reduce department of worker pension bill somewhat because you would be reducing work benefit payments, people being paid more. There are many Big Companies that could well afford to pay that should just be paying the minimum. There are Companies Like ishould suspect yours, companies that would have problems ther. We fully recognize that. We would therefore work with them either to giv given tax ref for support in order to make sure the living wage, the real living wage, was paid but they didnt close down as a result of it. Aas a society with 6 Million People earning less than the living wage. There are a Million People on zero contracts. We have wage levels up a portion of income falling at the present time. I think more money in the pockets when people are better off. It will also be an economiclu boost itself. I absolutely recognize the problems for small and micro business. Thats why it would be a pathway to it with support from the government to achieve it. [applause] i just want to hear from r Edward Robbins because mr. Corbyn just mentioned the issue. Where is Edward Robbins . Put your hand up. There are contracts providing an easy way for students like myself to get casual flexible work. How will scrapping these contracts affect us . Labour policy, to . [applause] first of all, there are contracts are many people mean a lifetime of stress and a lifetime of great difficulty. Imagine what its like if your sole source of income is as you out contract of the you wake up in way, look at your mobile phone to see if youre employed that they are not. That week or not. You dont know what your income is going to be. I do understand the point about students and others. Some companies, some for say okay, we need people in a bar, and a shop, in a packaging place. Those kind of enterprises. We will pay you x number of hours per week on a flexible basis so that you have an average pay of say ten hours per week. That means those people who are loyal to the company. Those people know what their income is going to be, and that seems to me a much fair way to doing it. You can have some security of whats going on. There are some employers that do that with students and it works quite well. Whats your reaction . Well, im not going to stop you working. Its okay. [laughing] well, i was talking about more come from us having the option for students at us who go to get employed several to work this time and this time, and not just getting told you are working this many hours. Working when you choose. Yes. Like writing for delivery services. Yes. I think the agreement should be that you come to discussion with the employer. I rs i can work for three hours on a monday, six hours on a thursday, two hours over the weekend come Something Like that, and thats why, its not simple to manage for any employer. I fully understand that but it does give the security for the individual. It also gives the employer a wide range of workers that will be working be loyal to the firm. Why have you never regarded the ira as terrorists . [applause] i have i think the good friday agreement was a huge achievement, was brought about when both communities recognized their shared but different paths and thought about the idea of a powersharing government in Northern Island. I think that was an enormous achievement. Its been covered elsewhere in the world as a way forward. I dont approve of any terrorism any sort of any terrorist act of any sort. It only divides communities and kills people. It killed a lot of people. [applause]lot of it didnt kill a lot of people, didnt think . All deaths are wrong. All killing is wrong. We have to develop and we did in Northern Island eventually a very effective Peace Process and anything we should pay tribute to those in the community as was those in the nationalist community for coming together to bring about that Peace Process. It was a truly remarkable experience, okay . You, sir. Yes. You didnt want to speak . Who, me . You have the microphone over your head. You are all right. You said you didnt support the ira. He also supported other terrorist organizations. Do you expect the british people to vote for you to go into number ten when you sat there and supportive in . We see you. [applause] i have not supported any of those organizations. What i said is, and im sure you would probably agree with it, t that if you are to bring about a Peace Process anywhere, be it the middle east, ireland, a different situation, colombia or anywhere else, there has to be a coming together. Hehe you are talking wednesday when they were killing people, women and children you were talking to the. Has to be, well, i was talking to representatives of the republican movement, yes, and so was the government at the same time. Ian paisley was indeed thrown out a part of it when he told the government, told Margaret Thatcher she was actually talking to them, you know what, i voted ian paisley should be thrown out apartment. I thought his voice should be heard in parliament. You have to bring about a Peace Process talking to people that you dont agree with. If you just talk amongst your friends you dont get a process. [applause] are you done . You keep poking the man in front of you. Me again . Do you want to speak . Are you trying to speak . What i can do [laughing] youve talk to these people, earlier about the nuclear option. Talking is the way you want to go. David said in the programs, telling the public to press the red button. Are you saying you will never ever under any circumstances press the red button . I think we have discussed it some length about the aspirations we all have. I do not want to be responsible for the destruction of millions of people, neither do you. Therefore we have to work [applause] back to economics. Its all very well for a socialist with nice Little Red Book and say we will find all these lovely programs by taking more money from big business. What is your plan for the economy when those businesses to write and say okay, keep your eye taxes, we will go elsewhere . [applause] you look at the businesses were talking about are actually doing very well. Theyve been extremely over the past century because the taxes been cut a great deal. I think we have to look at the problems of our Public Services. We have to look at the issues of what kind of Economic Future wer have. We cannot go on being an lowwage economy, under spin on a public service, investing less than any other industrialized country in our future. I would much prefer that we develop a nationally Investment Banking sergey and regionallyny based to improve, rail, broadband, road, communications, that we improve investment in a industry for the future. N we have a lot of proportioned on Manufacturing Industry than julie. We have a lower level of productivity in chile. A lower skill based in germany. Why is there a difference . Because successful german governments almost irrespective of which party is being prepared to invest in their infrastructure and her future. I think we should think about that and improve the economy of our own society. But you know what, that would lead to better economic growth. It would lead to betterr opportunities for everybody. And i think this is an offer thats important, and i think its time that we actually invested in our future rather than preside over our decline. But he is saying [applause] you think businesses may scatter under the weight of extra taxation. Theres always the issue uncertain with brexit anyway ana weve seen Certain Companies come in and say we stay or will he go . Do you say you will pay more tax it is to you as well . The Corporation Tax level now propose would be less than there is anywhere in the majort is industrial countries of westernn europe anyway. The crucial thing, youre right to raise it, has to be gaining carefree trade access to European Market as the basis of which you can continue. Look at it this way. They manufactured aircraft parts, manufactures and let parts and the final facility for the aircraft takes place. Some of the parts of major, some of the engine a made in other places picked some parts in spain. The final summit takes place. If we dont have that care to the European Market, are they going to stay . With the want to stay . Ask yourself the question to you could say the same for many other big manufacturing enterprises. That is why the crucial thing has to be maintaining that economic relationship with your outside membership of thero European Union. That is abuzz with guaranteeingg jobs and growing manufacturing economy in britain. But also government that is investing alongside them to improve skill level and improve communications. Brief point. Security earlier, a few months ago you quoted, well, you said on television that one of the things you would do if you are successful in government was performed a strategic defense review. Now, weve just gone through a strategic defense review. Why do we need another one . Every government that comes into office as a strategic defense review. At there are serious issues but a shortage of ships and they become serious issues about supplies of frigates, sears issues about Maritime Surveillance aircraft that has been addressed. Sovees a crucial issue of cybersecurity and Cyber Attacks thats taken place and a crucial issue about terrorist attacks. I dont believe you make the l society safer by getting rid of 20,000 Police Officers as this government has done since 2010. [applause] hannah lyndsay, please. Very quickly, if you would. Is that i just got universits tuition fees as such a priority when theres much else things to do in terms of living equality . And just to say [applause] 11 billion past a quarter of your entire spending. Why universities . I think we should invest in education for the future, and i do think that abolishing University Tuition fees means that in young person hasnt got the chance to go university and get in. Look at the process of applications at the moment, a number of working questions is dropping, number coming from poorer communities is dropping. I want to see real access for everybody. I think thats the right thing to do. It would not be unusual in many other parts of the world to dowr this. Y listen, a as a young person basically had the offer of Free Education i didnt take it up. That was my choice. Im not complaining about it. I dont think its up to me and my generation to pull up the ladder on the generations that k coming behind. It i want to Education System that really does work for all so that every child can develop to their full potential irrespective of the background and the life chances. [applause] im sorry. We have to stop you there. E thank you very much indeed. [cheers and applause] that brings us to the end of this addition of question time. Thank you all for coming here to new york to put question to the two party leaders. 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It relates to the incredible class we have in this country and mark twain and you can go to for almost anything writes about this in his novel the gilded age, the two different languages of corruption that happened in the late 19th century where elites start to say this isnt really corrupt. This is just the way we do things and anybody else says, you know, if it walks like a duck, toxic like a duck, its a duck. Bridge usa founder talks about free speech and censorship on college campuses. Call it a de facto tax on free speech. I kind of agree with you. I do agree with it. Giving place in a very tricky position with a can of what the speakers at the want to speak because it will be violence. To gregs point, i think that when you give into threats, when you are given the fence about can win the university gets into threats are basically allowing the violent agitators to be successful even before the land one punch. 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