After a lot of soul searching this congressional interview available on our website cspan. Org. We will interrupt it for live coverage of Calista Gingrich for ambassador to the vatican. Mrs. Calistal. Gingrich is the president s nominee to be ambassador to the vatican. Mr. George edward glass is the nominee to be the u. S. Ambassador to portugal. And carl c. Rich to be secretary of state for counselor affairs. I want to congratulate the nominees and thank you for your willingness to serve. We have congressman rooney here supporting mrs. Gingrich. Congressman rooney was the ambassador to the holy sea during president bushs term. The senior senator from oregon, ron widen and an esteemed member of this committee, senator portman from ohio. Mr. Chairman, thank you for your courtesy. As senator portman knows, we are right in the middle of debating tax reform, i know a topic of great interest to many senators here. Im trying to help out chairman hatch. I will make this a filibuster free opportunity, mr. Chairman. It is a great privilege to be able to introduce a long time friend, George Edward glass. Mr. Glass has been nominated to serve as our next ambassador to portland. As we begin this discussion, im glad that the president has gun submitting more nominees to the senate for consideration because we all understand that having a Senate Confirmed ambassador makes a world of differences when challenges emerge as this committee knows better than just about anybody. Knowing mr. Glass as i do, i am confident that as all of you get to know him better, you are going to report him favorably to the senate floor. As he is going to tell you, george glass is an oregonian through and through. He was born in eugene. He attended college there, graduating from the university of oregon. Like me, he is a duck and he has continued to be involved with the university, with the community as he has been recognized as a pillar of portlands financial, real estate and tech communities. Hes been involved in a number of projects to help our community. Im particularly pleased that he has had a long interest in the Oregon Health and science university. They play a lifeline in terms of reaching out to our community and to those who have really found it hard to Access Health care. Hes been a trustee for the Oregon Health and science university, a former president of the university of Oregon Alumni Association and also a member of the catholic Business Leaders association. I just feel very strongly that as you look to portugal and to that part of the world, we are going to need people whove demonstrated a track record of stepping up, being involved in their community, someone with expertise in a variety of areas, not just his chosen profession of finance, but health care with his background at the Oregon Health sciences center. And i believe that as you get to know him and confirm him after youve had a chance to hear from him, you will come to the conclusion i have, which is george glass has values shared by americans, by those in the country he seeks to serve, portugal. And i very much appreciate my colleagues going out of order to extend this courtesy to me. And my guess is chairman hatch probably is grateful to you as well as we try to keep matters proceeding in the finance committee. Thank you very much, mr. Chairman. I very much look forward to members of the committee getting to know george glass as i have. I think youll come to the same judgment i have. He will serve and reflect great credit on the United States in this position. Thank you for that great introduction and your strong support for the nominee. As long as youre taking a look at my Corporate Tax reform, i really encourage you to get out of here and get back to the tax at hand. Senator portman. Thank you, chairman johnson. I wanted to be here to welcome this distinguished group of nominees. Thank you for your willingness to serve. To mr. Rich and mr. Glass, wer. Hes before this committee to be the next coordinator for Counter Terrorism at the state department, obviously a vital position that needs to be filled as quickly as possible. In these National Security positions, we need to have honorable, capable individuals who understand the importance of that mission, protecting the homemade land but also working with our allies y s ties to com threat of global terrorism. Were pleased to have your here. Did i mention hes from ohio . Never hurts to mention it again. Canton, ohio, to be specific. Also attended ohios miami university. He then for some reason headed south and went to duke law school. Following law school he did clerk for the honorable david sentel. And hes no stranger to Public Service. He served in the office of legal policy at the department of justice and at the department of Homeland Security during the george w. Bush administration, where i also served. There he focused on intelligence, information sharing, terrorist travel. At dhs, he drafted critical legislation to improve the security of our visa waiver program. Something that the chairman and i have had deep interest in. In the past few years, nathan returned to the private sector and academia. He teaches and writes in the fields of National Security law and Counter Terrorism law, among other areas. Hes superbly qualified for this position. Much more importantly because of his relevant experience, because of his strong record and because of his lifelong commitment to our constitution, laws and the security of our country. I hope my colleagues will join me in this effort to quickly fill this role with an experienced and capable public servant. Thank you, senator portman, for that great introduction. By all means go back to the finance committee and start working than Corporate Tax proposal. As great as it is to have nominees from oregon and ohio, i certainly preeshtd tappreciate that i have a privilege of introducing our nominee from the state of wisconsin. In my capacity, i also have the honor of introducing my fellow wisconsinite, Calista Gingrich. She was born and raised in whitehall, wisconsin. Its an area that you drop cell coverage frequently. She graduated from Whitehall Memorial High School as valedictori valedictorian. She attended Luther College in iowa where she was a regent scholar and honors graduate. Calista came to washington to intern for her hometown congressman steve gunderson. She served as the chief clerk of the House Committee on agriculture. After 18 years of service, she left capitol hill to found gingrich productions, producing documentary films, writing books and advising clients. She also supports many charitable causes through her role. Shes a lifelong catholic and has been active in her Faith Community for many years. She has sung for 20 years in the choir of the National Shine of the Immaculate Conception here in washington. Calista collaborated with Church Leaders to produce and host nine days to change the world, a documentary about Pope John Paul iis historic 1979 pilgrimage to poland. She also produced a documentary about Pope John Paul iis cannonization. Her interest in john paul ii is fitting given her nomination. President reagans trip with Pope John Paul ii led to relationships with the holy sea. Calistas understanding of the Catholic Church, her considerable experience in government and business and her talents as a commune ta tor mca her an ideal choice. I support her nomination and urge my colleagues to support her as well. Thank you for your willingness to serve. Im also delighted to introduce mr. Carl c. Rich of pennsylvania. Mr. Rich is a highly regarded Pennsylvania Attorney and current acting chief of staff in the u. S. Citizen and Immigration Services. He was previously the Field Office Director of the u. S. Citizenship and Immigration Services at the American Embassy in seoul, south korea. A senior immigration official brought in washington, d. C. For over a decade and a former counselor Foreign Service officer with the department of state, mr. Rich is an expert on the responsibilities. With that i would like to recognize the distinguished Ranking Member for his comments. Senator murphy. Thank you, mr. Chairman. We have actually a good full house of members here. Im going to defer my opening remarks. Thank all of you for your service. Mr. Sales and i had a chance to sit down and have a productive conversation yesterday. Im very glad for your testimony and for us to engage in a dialogue. The order of our nominees opening remarks will be mrs. Gingrich, mr. Sales, mr. Glass and mr. Risch. Chairman johnson, Ranking Member murphy and distinguished members of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, i am honored to appear before you today as President Trumps nominee to serve as the United States ambassador to the holy sea. I am thankful to President Trump for the confidence and trust he has placed in me to be his representative at this important embassy. In addition, i want to express my gratitude to secretary of state Rex Tillerson for supporting my nomination. It is a special honor to be introduced by chairman johnson from my home state of wisconsin. Thank you. I am also grateful to appear before this committee today with the full support of my husband newt. As veterans of capitol hill, we both have Great Respect for your role in assessing and confirming those who represent the American People abroad. If confirmed, i look forward to working closely with the members and staff of this committee. Like the United States, the holy sea is active on a global scale. It is engaged on every continent to advance religious freedom and human rights, to fight terrorism and violence, to combat Human Trafficking, to prevent the spread of diseases like ebola and hiv aids. And to seek Peaceful Solutions to crises around the world. Those who serve in the state department are known the world over for their patriotism and dedication. The staff at the u. S. Embassy to the holy sea exemplifies these traits. They work tirelessly to leverage the vaticans global reach and to advance our strong bilateral relationship. The embassy team did an extraordinary job preparing for and hosting the president on his visit to the vatican in may. During that visit, President Trump and pope francis highlighted shared concerns, including the protection of Christian Communities in the middle east. Pope francis has powerfully called on religious leaders and people of all faiths to unequivocally reject terrorism and violence in the name of religious. The vatican and its organizations play an active role to troubled areas around the globe, from venezuela to south sudan, to the democratic republican of the congo, countries where the holy seas support for Peaceful Solutions directly benefits the interests of the United States. The Catholic Church is a unique Global Network overseeing the worlds second Largest International aid organization, operating 25 of the Worlds Health care facilities and ministering to millions in every corner of the world. As global leaders, the United States and the vatican must continue to work closely to advance our shared values of Human Dignity and freedom. This can only happen if we maintain and build upon a Strong Foundation of trust and mutual communication. If confirmed i will continue this vital dialogue which has been so important for the people of the United States and the world. I understand how the United States and the holy sea can act as a worm wide forld wide force when we Work Together. Several years ago i had the honor of producing a documentary film entitled nine days that changed the world. It chronicled the historic visit to poland in 1979. Producing this film required substantial work with key Church Leaders and other experts in the United States, poland and the vatican. This film has been well received by the Catholic Church and is usedreligious programs throughout the United States. This is an example of the powerful role the vatican plays in international affairs. Recently i produced another documentary film entitled divine mercy. These projects along with my decades long membership, have given me the opportunities to build relationships with many church members, clergy and religious scholars. These have instilled in my the highest respect for the holy sea, a deep appreciation for the responsibility of this post and confidence that the United States vatican bilateral relationship is a force for good and one that cannot be ignored. As a lifelong catholic, business owner, documentary film maker, author and former public servant, i am profoundly humbled at the prospect of serving my country as the United States ambassador to the holy sea. If confirmed i will work diligently to develop Even Stronger ties between the United States and the holy c. Mr. Chairman, mr. Ranking member and members of the committee, i appreciate the opportunity to be before you today and would be pleased to answer my questions you may have. Thank you. Thank you. Our next nominee will be mr. Sales. Thank you, chairman johnson, thank you Ranking Member murphy and members of the committee. Its an honor to be here with you this morning. Let me start by introducing my family. My wife margaret along with our daughters ana and kate. My parents alex and marsha are here. They came out from ohio. Id also like to acknowledge my fatherinlaw and motherinlaw home in boston today. Special word of thanks to senator portman, my fellow buckeye for his kind words of introduction. You can take the boy out of ohio but you cant take the ohio out of the boy. I also want to express my gratitude to President Trump and secretary tillerson. If confirmed, ill do everything in my power to earn and pay back the trust and confidence that they have shown in me. I came to the field of Counter Terrorism almost by happenstance. In 2001 i was a young lawyer at the Justice Department. Id been hired to work on Administrative Law issues. It was the middle of august 2001. Three weeks later was 9 11. I still recall the chilling rumors that flew that morning as we evacuated main justice. A car bomb at the state department, fires on the national mall, another hijacked plane heading for the capital. Some of those rumors turned out to be false alarms, but that was little consolation. The reality was bad enough. My job and everybody at the administration, everybody in congress now shifted to one fundamental and over riding priority, preventing another assault on our homeland. 9 11 wasnt just an attack on our citizens and landmarks. It was an attack on our very way of life, our democracy, our commitment to the rule of law. Our top priority at the Justice Department was to equip our nations cops and spies and soldiers with the tools they needed to confront this new menace and just as importantly to do so in a way that maintained faith with our fundamental values as americans, our basic national values. We couldnt allow our fundamental values to become a casually of war. I took that commitment with me to Homeland Security a few years later. At dhs i learned the experience of working with our allies around the world. I saw firsthand that our alliances are strong, not just because of our shared economic and military might, but because of our shared values. Let me also say a few words about the dedicated career professionals at the state department. Ive developed a deep appreciation for their extensive knowledge, their commitment and sacrifices. It will be a privilege to serve alongside them if im confirmed. I started with my family and id like to end there too. I come from a long line of patriots. My father alex was a navy officer in the vietnam era. My grandfather clarence served in the army corps of engineers in world war ii. He was stationed in england, which is where he met my grandma. My other grandfather was an infantry captain. He saw action at normandy, helped liberate france and earn a ed a bronze star for valor. It will be a great honor if im confirmed to continue their legacy at state. Thank you again, mr. Chairman, mr. Ranking member, members of the committee. I look forward to your questions. I appreciate you introducing your family. I was remiss in not encouraging everybody to do so. Mr. Glass. Mr. Chairman, Ranking Member and distinguished members of the committee, it is with great humility and honor i sit before you today. Im deeply grateful for the trust and support in me. If confirmed, im committed to focusing all my energies to id like to acknowledge my wife mary sitting here with me who came out from oregon. Id also like to acknowledge my three sons and their wives. Gordon and his wife currently live in japan. George and emily are due with their first child here in august. Thats actually our first grandchild. And our youngest andrew who is in the throes of his very first job after graduating from college. Id like to thank my father whos here in spirit. Its his courage and wisdom that brings me strength every day. I take seriously representing the United States to the republic of portugal. Portugal is amongst our oldest and most reliable allies. The history of the two nations has always been one of Mutual Respect and support. If confirmed i look forward to working with the outstanding personnel who serve our country in mission lisbon. 1. 5 million portuguese americans live in the United States. This unique relationship has allowed us to turn to portugal for Political Support in almost every Peace Keeping mission. The United States, nato and the United Nations has led since the end of the cold war. More recently the republic of portugal was hit especially hard by the 2008 global restoegs the poi recession. In 2014 we saw for ourselves what the wage and spending cuts and tax increases were doing to the business environment. At that time unemployment rates were over 15 . What we witnessed on that trip ende endeared us to the people of portugal for life. God, family and the belief that hard wloork will ultimately hel people to the United States is now portugals number one trading partner outside the e. U. s Single Market and the fifth largest trading partner overall. In 2016 portugal received the first ever shipment of Liquified Natural Gas from the United States to europe. It is this newfound momentum in portuguese business that makes it an exciting time. Lisbon is currently one of the hottest tech startup cities in the eu. Im uniquely situated to help businesses build upon the Technology Boom were seeing today. The emergence of startups looks like San Francisco did in the late 80s and early 90s. Lastly, if i may, id like to express my deepest sorrow for the families and friends for the over 60 dead and hundreds injured in the latest forest fire in portugal. This has been a tragedy of great proportions. Its seldom that we see this kind of tragedy today. Coming from oregon, i know the pain that a forest fire can render. And the burden that an entire people can feel. Mary and i continue to include the families of those who perished in the forest fires in our prayers. I hope we can prevent something tli like this from occurring again in the future. If confirmed i will serve our great country the United States of america to the best of our abilities. Final nominee will be mr. Risch. Chairman johnson, members of the committee, im honored to appear before you as the president s nominee to be assistant secretary of state for Consular Affairs. Im join eed by my wife of over2 years, wendy taylor risch. She worked at the department of state as a spousal employee during two of my overseas tours. Im joined by my daughter hteda. I am grateful to the president and sec tiretary tillerson for confidence and trust. If confirmed i will devote all of my skills, experience and attention to performing my duties. My wife and i will both natives of central pennsylvania, where we were born, raised and educated. I practiced law there for eight years. My father, a veteran of the korean war, worked for 30 years in a factory, now closed, which made automotive parts. My mother stayed home with me after my adoption. Being an adopted person, i have felt a special kinship with the abandoned, the orphaned and forgotten. Over the past nine years i have volunteered to serve on refugee processing trips for my agency in thailand, pakistan, malaysia where i worked toward the resettlement of hundreds of victims of persecution and torture. As an attorney and Civil Servant i will bring to the bureau of Consular Affairs the same values and principles that have guided my career for the past 22 years. A commitment to the rule of law, transparency, justice. And to the equal and fair application of the law. I began my Government Service as a Foreign Service officer. My consular tour is one of the most rewarding experiences of my life. I am grateful and honored to have had the opportunity to work with the dedicated men and women of the state department, especially in the days and weeks after the attacks of 9 11. In 2006, i returned to Public Service as a Civil Servant with u. S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. It was at uscis where i expanded my knowledge of immigration and nationality law. I rose through the ranks at uscis first as in 2013 my wife and i made the decision to return to International Service and i have spent the past four years serving u. S. Cis in the embassies in the philippines and south korea. During those years i had the pleasure of working side by side with koconsular sections throughout the world. I remain a dedicated Civil Servant to this day. If on firmed, it will be the privilege of a lifetime to lead the bureau of the fine men and women of Consular Affairs. They are among the hardest working,most dedicated and bravest employees in Government Service. They work in dangerous uncomfortable places all to serve the American People. This work is complex and emotionally taxing. And i am immensely proud to say that i was once one of them even for a short period of time. Since my days as a consular a s officer, so much as changed. Continue yous v continuous vetting of applicants, a longer and better training program, a serious commitment to fraud detection, close cooperation with the department of Homeland Security and a culture of making National Security a number one priority. This has strengthened the shared mission to protect our homeland. Every visa decision the state department makes. If confirmed i will strive to make sure our officers continue to have the training, resources and leadership necessary to accurately adjudicate applications in accordance with the laws of the United States while also facilitating legitimate National Travel and protecting our National Security. Should i be confirmed, i commit to working with members of this committee and to being responsive to your questions and concerns. Thank you for your time and i look forward to your questions. Thank you, mr. Risch. Ms. Glass, congratulations on your soon to be first grandchild. Ive got three now. All the joy with a lot less responsibility. Wonderful. Im looking forward to it. I want to thank all my colleagues for your strong attendance in respect to your time. Ill hold off my questions until the very end. Senator murphy i didnt really come for a question. I came to pay tribute to ms. Gingrich. We have something in common. She married mr. Gingrich. I replaced him in the house of representatives. Calista is a lady of great talent. In fact, one of her great persuasive talents is not only convince newt to marry her but convert him to catholicism. Were very proud of you and newt. Im just here to cheer you on and tell you how proud we have of you. Thank you so much, senator. Thank you, mr. Chairman. Thank you to all of the nominees for your willingness to take on these positions and serve this country. I want to begin with you, mrs. Gingrich, because you talked about the Important Role of Catholic Charities and the Catholic Mission around the world. I certainly agree with that. I had the opportunity to visit a nursing home in northern New Hampshire on friday that is operated by Catholic Charities in the state, providing great care to people. So i wanted to ask you i know that pope francis has called on america and the rest of the western world to uphold our tradition of moral leadership by welcoming vulnerable refugees freeing violence and owe progression into our country. And i just wonder how you would argue the United States position that is taken by this administration that has been less welcoming of refugees and how will you work with the holy sea on that very critical issue . The president and the pope have grave concerns regarding the global refugee and migration crisis. This is a priority for our president to deal with right now. We have a deep commitment in this country to work to forward peace and stability so people dont have to become refugees. The United States has been and will continue to be the largest provider of humanitarian aid in the world. We arent disengaging. If confirmed i look forward to working with the holy sea to imfa sii imfa si emphasize the impact. Certainly we arent disengaging with foreign aid. We should continue to support that in any way we can especially in those places where were seeing famine as a result of man made conditions. But this administration has reduced the ability of refugees to come to the country, in particular Syrian Refugees fleeing violence and a horrible situation in their own country. Is this something you think we can work with pope francis and the holy sea to try and ensewur we can help those refugees trying to get into the country . I think we can communicate our commitment to help those most in need, yes. Thank you. Professor sales, secretary tillerson has spoken repeatedly about the possibility of increased cooperation with russia and syria. We have a cease fire that still seems to be holding in a very small southern part of that country. But time and again putin has demonstrated that hes interested in preserving the assad regime. So do you believe that we share the same interests and objectives in syria . And if not, how would you describe our objectives differently . Well, thank you for the question, senator. I think the answer is yes and no. I think we do have some shared objectives in syria. We face a common enemy in isis. We have other interested that d diverge, as you well know. What we can do with russia and members of the International Community to achieve our objectives our number one priority is to defeat isis. What that means is taking their leaders off the battlefield and the foot soldiers on the battlefield, liberating the cities they have seized, defeating their ability to rekrutd foreir recruit and drying up their sources of funding. The key question after that goal is accomplished is what comes next. I think one important thing that has to happen is a political process involving all of the relevant stake holders that can produce stability such that the people of syria can chart a way forward. That is something that cannot be accomplished entirely by military force. Its something thats going to require sustained diplomatic engagement. If im confirmed to this position, thats going to be a priority of ours. Thank you. One of the benefits that we have in fighting terrorism at home is engagement from the communities that terrorists have often come from in the Muslim Community, for example, making sure that there are good relations with people in the Muslim Community here has been very helpful. How would you see our promoting those kinds of positive relationships . Its absolutely critical to maintain strong relationships with domestic populations as well as international populations. Often times these are the groups of people that have the First Insight into the fact that a problem may be taking place. Its critically important for us to have open lines of communication such that our friends are confident they can tell us we think that something am amiss may be afoot out fear of stigmatization. I look forward to maintaining those strong relationships, senator. Thank you. I have other questions for the panelists but my time is up, sadly. Senator kaine . Thanks and congratulations to all the witnesses for your nominations. The u. S. portugal relationship is a very important one. I do a lot of work in the Iberian Peninsula in my work on this community. When i travel for the Foreign Relations committee i always ask to meet without the ambassador with fsos on their first or second tours and theyre almost always out of the consular section. I basically say, congratulations you have achieved a wonderful job working for the state department. What will be the difference as to whether you make it a career or whether you leave after a few years . And thats usually all i have to say to engender a twohour conversation. A question or comment for each mr. Sales and ms. Gingrich. Ms. Gingrich, im very happy that your answer to senator s shaheens questions about refugees. In my conversation with the pope, i thanked him for his leadership. Obviously a key aspect of his speech to congress in 2015 was about refugees. He was pleading with the United States, please be leader on these issues. I was thanking him for his leadership but he wanted to put an ask on our shoulders. Theres no many issues in this important bilateral relationship. Im worried you are not the budget official, so i completely get this. You play the hand youre dealt by the president s submitted budget. The cut to the Refugee Bureau proposed in the president s budget is 31 . I think that sends a very loud message, rhetoric sends a message and budget sends messages, probably the two most significant messages you can send are with the rhetoric and with the budget. Were sending a message. I hope it is the will of this body to do some repair on this budget so were not reducing americas traditional commitment to those issues. I take you because of your background that youll do all you can to advance our longstanding policy of being a nation that welcomes people who are oppressed. Mr. Sales, let me ask you this. On the Armed Services committee as well, last year we were able to get something done in the nda that i thought was pretty good. My colleagues agreed. We enabled through the ndaa the d. O. D. To transfer funds for countering violent extremism. In particular areas its really been in the expertise of state or u. S. To do particular programs that could counter violent extremist. I hope thats something that you will look at. But i have noticed there has been some discussion of stripping away some cve aspects of the administrations Counter Terrorism strategy. To your knowledge and i knoi. Will cve remain a strong priority at the state department . Yes. If i am confirmed, it will continue to be a top priority for me and for the bur reau thai would lead. All Counter Terrorism has to involve a countering violent extremism component. Terrorism is a global problem that presents all sorts of different facets. Sometimes military solutions are required. Sometimes Law Enforcement solutions are required. Its not just hard power that has to be deployed to counter isis, al qaeda and other like minded groups. We also have to use the softer tools in the National Tool kit such as engaging at the community level, such as providing off ramps for those who might be tempted to take a path towards radicalization. If im confirmed ill continue the good work thats been done. Mrs. Gingrich, you have a Communications Background too. Of course cve is an important priority of the vatican as well. Could you talk a little bit about how you see your role as ambassador to the holy sea to counter extremism . Well, its very exciting to have the opportunity to lead an embassy that has a global influence and works on a global scale. Im very interested in working on projects to advance religious freedom, to fight terrorism and violence, to combat Human Trafficking, to fight diseases like hiv aids and ebola and to seek Peaceful Solutions to c crisis around the world. This is an awesome opportunity if i am confirmed. There are many issues on which we do agree. We have a very strong bilateral relationship with a shared agreement on many issues. I look forward to working on those issues of our shared policy opportunities. Senator menendez. Congratulations to all of you. Mr. Risch in 2007 you appeared before the house subcommittee on government reform. In a hearing, you said during my tenure as unit chief i adjudicated approximately 25,000 visa applications. I resigned in may of 2002 even though i received top evaluation and a challenging assignment. While i longed to return to my private practice, i was discouraged by the state departments lack of dedication to the enforcement of laws. I took my job very seriously. The state department did not. Do you believe state department isnt committed to the rule of law and the National Security of the United States. Thank you senator, for the question and for the opportunity to address that testimony. The testimony was in 2002, not in 2007. It was 15 years ago that that testimony took place. It was during the time that the department of Homeland Security was just being stood up. I believe a lot as chanhas chan the state department in 15 years. Im enthusiastic about the future the way the bureau will be fulfilling itself function with interagency cooperation, continuous vetting. I dont want my time to expire. Do you believe the state department is committed to the rule of law and the National Security of the United States . Currently, senator, i absolutely do. You went on the same hearing to say the fact this is a quote. The fact that even i was terrified by states incompetence and apathy towards Law Enforcement proves just how far the department has progressed. I urge the congress to support the transfer of the visa issuing function from States Bureau of Consular Affairs to the new department of Homeland Security, a department that will be committed to the rule of law and the National Security of the United States. Now, prms mission is to provide Life Sustaining assistance to those who are persecuted,astasi promote best practices and ensure humanitarian principles are integrated into national and foreign policy. For example, migration is an important issue in countries like turkey and iraq. So do you believe that the department of Homeland Security, which is notoriously bloated with a whole host of dysfunctional components, should be responsible still to have the visa, the very essence of the department youre being nominated to, to be transferred to the department of Homeland Security . Well, 15 years ago, senator, i stand behind my testimony. It was a complete lip different time. And there were a lot of talk about consolidating Different Things into the department of Homeland Security. Currently, i watched the deputy secretary testify yesterday that its currently not the intent of the department of state im not asking the intent, im asking your view. Youre nominated for this position. I will follow the leadership of the department of state if confirmed. But as of today, i intend to lead the bureau of affairs as confirmed. It will be a strong leader of all functions of the cons lular bureau. The United States has been trying to combat violent extremism. And our experiences in iraq and afghanistan leave little doubt that many flourish and reflect in areas of poverty where people have no hope for the future. The 2016 Seed Department and aig joint strategy on countering violent extremism outline five objectives. And in those objectives, they talk to the very issues i just spoke about. So my question is, how to propose cuts to the u. S. State department and the usda program that is are the foreign assistance tools that advance the goals of combatting terrorism and violent extremism actually in line with our very own policy. Thank you for the question, senator. I have spent time in bureaucracies, and in my experience, its usually the case that they can afford to tighten the belt a bit. Now, as far as the Overall State Department budget is concerned, senator, congress has the power of the purse under the constitution. So congress will have to decide the levels at which it wishes to fund these activities. My problem with the answers is you all want to kick the ball to someone else. But the nominations are, in essence, part of the policy decision making. Youll be in a room to be able to advocate on the interagency issues. So saying that congress has the power of the purse, im fully aware of that. The question is, what is your advocacy at any point in time . Are these the essential programs necessary as secretary mattis said, these are how we fight the idealogues. This is a secretary general. I would like to get better answers than that. And mr. Glass, we have a lot of portugueseamericans in new jersey and from the azores, an Extraordinary Group of citizens that have done extraordinary things. Have you visited portugal . I have. Do you speak portuguese . I will utilize the experts to learn the language. I ask that question because in the past the questions were asked when i was the chairman of nominees. For some, it was disqualifying. For me, its not, but i just wanted to know. Thank you very much. Mr. Glass, why dont you take this opportunity right now to find some comfort to senator menend menendez, talk about your experience to portugal that you conveyed to me in the office. The trip mary and i took to portugal was three years ago on a pilgrimage. And when we got there, it truly transformed our lives. It transformed the way we look at each other, it transformed the way we look at our religion, and as we traveled throughout the country, we realized the hospitality of the people there was extraordinary. And this is at a time that three years ago they were under a very severe recession. They had an Austerity Program enacted. So there was a lot of unemployment, yet that didnt stop everybody from welcoming us there. So we knew at the time when we left, we frankly left a big piece of our hearts there and wanted to come back and just certainly had no idea we would be possibly coming back, if confirmed in this role, but portugal is very important to us. And we look forward to serving the United States in portugal. New mexico is my home state, and its been over 400 years since the Catholic Church was first established in the state of new mexico. Which obviously wasnt a state at that time. Those traditions still run very strong in the state. And like pope francis, many new mexicans have a strong reverence for st. Francis de asissi. In fact, the missionary efforts were started by the order named for him, the franciscans. The full name of my hometown of santa fe, the oldest capital city in the country is also nicknamed for st. Francis. Its full name is la villa real. The royal town of the holy faith of st. Francis of asissi. The that dipgss of st. Francis run strong. The pope honors the saint by taking his name and working in his tradition. Riding in his incyclical praise be to you and it was subtitled on care for our common home. Pope francis stated, i believe that st. Francis is the example par excellence of care for the vulnerable and of an intrical colleague, hes the patron saint of ecology and much loved by nonchristians. He was particularly concerned for gods creation and for the poor and for the outcast. Those are the words of the pope. The pope gifted his inciclio on President Trump when he visited the pope at the vatican. Pope francis and many other occasions have called on catholics and people from all faith to Work Together to address Climate Change and protect the environment. In new mexico, my constituents are at the front lines of Global Warming and were already beginning to see the impacts of extreme weather events. Ms. Gingrich, could you share your thoughts on lodado c and what you would regard when it comes to Climate Change and how we shape the future of the planet . Well, the pope and the president share a great concern about our environment. President trump wants to maintain that we have clean air and clean water and that the United States remains an environmental leader. As President Trump said, we will disengage and pull out of the Paris Agreement. And either reenter the Paris Agreement or an entirely new agreement. One that is fair to americans. If confirmed, i look forward to working with the holy c as the United States pursues a balanced approach to climate policy. One that promotes american jobs, american prosperity and energy security. And i really believe the essence and core of diplomacy is listening and having an open mind. And i hope that you will go over there with that approach and listen to the pope. The holy cs played an Important Role to improve relations with our island neighbor. The Cardinal Ortega and cuba and pope francis have used the dialogue to help resolve differences between the United States and cuba. What are your views on the dialogue . And would you be willing to work with the vatican to increase ties between the United States and the cuban people . The concern for a better relationship between the United States and cuba, and if confirmed i look forward to working to advance religious freedom and human rights in cuba. Do any of the other panelists have a view on the popes incyclical on Climate Change . I take that as no, no, no, all three. Thank you very much. Senator murphy, i wanted to talk about senator menendez mentioning this to you, you are going to be asked for your opinion. In fact, you are being nominated to your positions because of the policy expertise in both of the areas. Hes right, its simply not enough to suggest youre going to follow orders. It is important for the nominating committee and for the senate to know what advice youre going to be giving. So let me just drill down to ask you a question that you havent answered yet, which is if you are asked for your opinion as to whether states should retain function over visa responsibilities or it should be shifted to the department of Homeland Security, what will your advice be . Thank you, senator. This has been a subject of debate for quite some time. My understanding is currently the debate is framed around government efficiency. When ive seen this proposal bubble up, usually its been in the context of these efficiency initiatives and brainstorming sessions. I cannot speak to whether or not it would bring a certain efficiency to move that function from one department to the other. And i dont intend to advocate for that. Im simply not in a position to make that efficiency call around that function. My concern in the past in criticizing the state department was around a lack of respect for counselor work, around National Security concerns and around rule of law. I believe those issues have been addressed. So i do not intend to add have to cat for that change based on any concern around the way the state department does its job. Okay, i think thats fairly clear. Its important for us to understand why youre being nominated to this position to end the functionality. But i hear you saying thats not your intend. Thats not my intend. I do not intend, if confirmed, to lead a bureau of counselor affairs. Consular affairs. This will gain an importance in protecting our country. Thank you. Mr. Sales, i appreciate your answer around efficiency. I dont think any of us did disagree every bureaucracy can get more disefficient, but this not the department of state. This is a greatly diminished capacity, and specifically some of the biggest cuts happen under your portfolio. So there is a 10 cut in funding for the Counter Terrorism bureau. But then more damaging, theres a 30 cut to nader funding in the president s budget, the Counter Terrorism activities at state. That budget request moves a 1. 1 billion fund down to a 680 million fund. Do you think that they can effectively carry out on the set on the responsibilities youre given with a 30 cut to nader funding, which seems to go beyond just those savings that can be captured by efficiency. Thank you for the question, senator. Ill answer it as best i can from my van teenage point as an outsider. Someone who has not gotten a lot of great visibility on the internal deliberations on these very important questions. So with that caveat, what i can tell you is, if i ever thought, and we talked about this yesterday in your office, senator, so i can assure you that if i ever thought that i didnt have the resources i needed to do the job to which i have been confirmed, i would have no hesitation whatsoever about raising that and advocating for what i deem to be necessary. I appreciate that answer. I think thats your sincere answer. You would be in a position to advocate very vigorously and early. The hiring freeze that first applied to the entirety of the federal government now applies to only one agency. And that is the state department. And you will all feel that because you will not be able to hire individuals that you need in order to perform the tasks at your departments and your embassies. Extraordinary measures have been taken. The prevent lateral transfers within the department of state, thus you will see certain functionalties hallowed out because the traditional ways in which state moves people back and forth are no longer available. Theres something extraordinary happening. And many of us cant derive the motivation for it. But youre all going to feel the brunt of it. And i hope that all of your answers would be the same as mr. Sales, if you felt you didnt have the resources, the notwithstanding decisions by the white house, you would argue for more resources. Thank you, mr. Chairman. If you have a second round, i might have one or two more. Before i turn to senator markley on the subject, ms. Sales, talk about your experience with dhs and the coordination that will be incredibly important between the department of state and dhs. And i think that is a legitimate discussion point. In terms of where are the activities best carried out. Thank you, senator. In my experience at dhs the, one of the most important areas of international engagement, that theres rule fruit in terms of Counter Terrorism, is information sharing. Its really critically important for our International Allies to tell us if they know about a known or suspected terrorist who might be traveling to the United States. To tell us if they know about something who has a criminal history as long as your forearm trying to travel to the United States. We have made some Great Strides towards ensuring more effective sharing of that kind of information since 9 11. Here in the United States, we have pioneering information sharing. After 9 11, one of the refrains that we constantly heard was the need to tear down the wall. Well, theres not just walls in our domestic law, there are also walls in our International Relations that impede the effective sharing of information. So if i were confirmed to this position, that would be, i think, a top priority of mine. Working with our allies around the globe, to talk about ways to share that information, to enhance our counterer t terrori offenses on both sides of the action. We look at the massive federal government with the results of the 9 11 commission, talking at the stove pipes, its a legitimate management discussion. And quite honestly, an initiative to take a look at where best should these functions resign. So i dont see any problem whatsoever in having this administration do a toptobottom review and take a look at that where it all shakes out. Theres a Second Branch of government here and congress will certainly engage in that, certainly my other committee and the chairman of Homeland Security will be discussing these things. You are looking at the most effective way to spend the money to get the best result. So to senator merkley. Thank you very much, mr. Chairman. It is a pleasure to join my colleague, senator widen, in welcomi welcoming mr. Grass being nominated to serve in portugal. Mr. Glass has been describes in terms of the details that hes a proud graduate of the university of oregon. But i want to emphasize those things again. That he certainly has some tremendous passions like the love of oregons outdoor spaces and ducks football. Hopefully a good season ahead. And im grateful hes willing to put those loves on hold to be overseas to serve our country. A warm welcome to mr. Grass wife mary. Thank you for joining us today. Thank you. Ambassador posts are not necessarily family affairs, so i appreciate the fact that mrs. Glass is willing to join her family in traveling and representing the United States in portugal. Portugal has been a very important outlie. And we have seen a very intriguing and successful economic story unfold there. And nurturing this relationship will be of great service. And i thank you, mr. Glass, for being willing to undertake that mission. Thank you for serving the great state of oregon and the United States senate. We appreciate it. Youre welcome. Ms. Gingrich, i want to followup on the question on the popes incyclical. He gave it as a present to President Trump when he was the there, has President Trump had a chance to read or digest that incyclical . I have not been informed whether or not hes read the incyclical. Have you had a chance to take a look at it . I have looked at some of it, sir. Are there pieces of it that particularly resonate for you . Well, i think were all called to be stewards of the land. As i said earlier, President Trump cares for our environment. He wants to sustain our clean water and our clean air and wants the United States to be an environmental leader. We are not backing off of that, but we are looking to increase the security of this country, to promote jobs for americans, to have a better prosperity. The focus is slightly different, but i do want to remain an environmental leader. The pope has indicated that he feels that theres a huge urgency to enacting quickly to address the basic factors driving climate disruption. Do you share that sense of urgency . Well, i do believe Climate Change exists. And that some of it is due to human behavior. But i think as the president pursues a better deal for americans, we will, indeed, remain an environmental leader in the world. I appreciate your confidence in that. I must say, i must have missed a few of the president s statements that have given you that faith. I wish it were so. Im not persuaded, but perhaps well see more unfold in that regard. One other two or three things you see as the key to your particular responsibility, should you hold this post . If confirmed, i am looking forward to the holy c to combat Human Trafficking. This is a horrible thing that threatens our security. The president has made it a priority to combat Human Trafficking. And members of this committee have made it a priority as well. The holy c is a valued partner in this regard, and the pope has led the International Focus to this issue. If confirmed, i look forward to the white house and the holy c to combat Human Trafficking around the world. My appreciation to all of you for bringing yourself forward in the complex and difficult trying nomination process. And with that, ill yield back the rest of my time. Thank you, senator merkley. Kind of looking at my list of questions, when i did some followups of the questions, i pretty well covered it. The question everybody has more mrs. Gingrich is let me just give you an opportunity. George santiana, improbably mispronouncing it like you did earlier, a senior moment, but those who do not remember history condemn to repeat it. Both you and your husband are serious students of history. And, in particular, your study of Pope John Paul ii,your documentary nine days that changed the world, that puts you in a very good position to understand exactly the power of leadership. And i believe, as im sure you do, too, that erika has been a great force for good in the world. In my own community, one of the things i got involved in, got me involved in Public Service was trying to change the Catholic School system there as a private sector alternative. So can you just talk a little bit more about the study that produced the documentaries and how that leadership, what you learned in terms of leadership and how america and the holy c can Work Together to really help change the world. Our movie nine days changed the world highlights this exact same thing. It was to see the swedish people against the wishes of the communist government. Millions of polls came out to greet the father. Pope john paul ii worked very closely with president reagan. And ten years later you have the first free elections in poland. So its so important that we reach out to places like the holy c to forward good in this world and to make it a better place to advance our peace and our freedom and our Human Dignity. Well, i think it vastly understands that history and understands the power of that leadership. This is perfectly suited for this position. So senator murphy, any further questions . Just two questions. We have been talking about this administrations policy toward refugees, multiple courts have held that the policy is illegal, in part because it appears dr discriminatory because it is given to refugees of certain countries when we have security vulnerabilities that still exist in the other refugee programs. And many other immigration programs. Can you i would argue visa waiver at the top of the list. Can you speak to whether you believe that the only means of protecting this country is an outright ban on refugees in the country. Or whether at some point you think theres going to be an amendment in this administration, maybe advocated by you once youre in place, to provide amendments of additional screening within the program to allow it to restart. Do you need the ban . Or can you make changes to the program that satisfy the concerns that many people have about it . Thank you, senator. As for refugee policy, ill point out that that really isnt something that would fall under the bureau of Consular Affairs. It would be under prm and their relationship with my agency now, uscis. As for vetting, at least the refugee contacts, i can speak as someone who has done refugee interviews over many years, that interviews are very detailed in going to great detail, either to offer a persecution story or graphic data. And one of them has spoken to by an american officer. So as for whether or not refugees are screened, they most certainly are in the sense that they are spoken to at great length about their qualifications. As for the Current Situation with travel pause from certain countries and the way thats playing out, i certainly support any kind of steps that are necessary to review the National Security posture and take a look at whether or not our vetting processes are sufficient to protect the United States. Mr. Sales, let me ask you one specific question and ill defer to written questions for the remainder. We talked a little in my office about some of the current conflict miss the middle east today, the most recent intelligence estimated provided to congress that shows that aqap that has been the most lethal and most homeland oriented arm of al qaeda is growing stronger and stronger inside yemen because of the civil war. Under the Obama Administration there was a robust political process that secretary kerry was leading to try to end that violence and to try to end the benefit provided to aqap. I have talked to all the players inside this conflict and none of them see that political process happening today. It is by and large dead, in part because the saudis feel empowered by the green light they interpret for the president s visit there. Can you just speak to the importance of a political process inside yemen and the danger for allowing this civil war to persist, given the growth of aqap during that time . Up couldnt agree more with the premise of the question that purely a military solution is never going to achieve a Counter Terrorism gain we need. What is needed is a stable environment because as you put out, terrorists thrive in political vacuums. Thats the lesson of afghanistan and libya. Thats the lesson of iraq. So diplomatic engagement is absolutely essential to ensure that we have a durable and stable status quo in yemen to bring the fighting to an end and empower local players to gain control over territory of borders. Thats the only way youre going to get aqap under control, senator. Okay, thank you mr. Chairman. Thank you, senator murphy. Again, i want to thank all the witnesses for your testimony. Congratulations again on your nominations. I want to congratulate the president. The selection here, your unique backgrounds and capabilities suit you well to which the positions youve been nominated. Thank you for your willingness to serve. Thank you for your families. Youll be seeing less of your loved ones. These are serious responsibilities. Thank you very much. With that, ive got to find the secret words here. The record will remain open until the close of business on thursday, july 20th. This hearing is adjourned. The senate Foreign Relations committee and all the previous confirmation hearings for President Trumps nominees are available on our website, cspan. Org. We have this for you from the hill today. The House Budget Committee unveiled a 1. 3 trillion budget plan this morning that would cut 203 billion in mandatory spending and seek to balance the budget in a decade. It adds work requirements for medicaid recipients and sets fast track budget reconciliation constructions for neutral tax reform, a process to allow the gop tax bill through the Senate Without fear of a democratic filibuster. It also calls for a significant defense increase over both current levels proposed by President Trump. It also includes 87 billion in spending for the global war on terror, notice the funding is not subject to budget caps. It would reduce the deficit by 20 million in 2018 and says this would turn into a 9 billion surplus by the year 2027. Read more at thehill. Com. Tomorrow the House Budget Committee will mark up the House Republicans budget blueprint for 2017. Life coverage starts at 10 00 a. M. Eastern here on cspan3. This sunday at noon eastern, a cspan3 special event. 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