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history or par. they really far right from the start. they faced serious allegations. here's why all the accusations are groundless. come with us on a ramstein journey to find out what makes the band take along the way. we'll visit for iconic ramstein locations and fate. people who could help us answer our questions about the most german band ever. we will show you how soft the hardest german rockers really are, and we find out all about their roots in communist east germany. why is ramstein so controversial? first up there named after our rift catastrophe that came 70 lives at the ramstein are based in germany at the time it was the deadliest air show disaster in history . on the cover of their 1st album critic said the band post like heaven mention representatives of the master race. then there's the way that the singer roses paused, reminiscent for some of nazi demagogues. and in the very martial, live shows. doesn't this remind you a little bit of a night to rally? then as the controversial use of footage from a film by hitler's favorite filmmaker, lenny reference style in a ramstein video reef and stars infamous film of the 1936 berlin olympics is used in the video for ramstein to cover of the depeche mode hit strips. and one more scandal, band members dressed as jewish concentration camp prisoners in the video for deutschland, germany's anti semitism commissioner said ramstein had gone too far. so is ramstein greeley far right? well not so fast. that's the taste for the prosecution. it's true that from the beginning the band shocks and provokes with songs about sadomasochism and even cannibalism. but even the boys from ramstein deserve a fair trial. in order to fully understand ramstein, you have to go back to their routes back to the 1980s when germany was divided in capitalist west germany, nicole wanted a little peace in communist east germany. the font pump and feeling b is formed. the bank venture featured the 3 members who then form half of ramstein, guitarist paul landers keyboard are christian clock, lawrence, and later drama. christoph snyder, landers and flock were 1st introduced to an unsuspecting world in the 1988 east german roxanne documentary for austin on dish ryan whisper and shout. we met up with the films director deja schuman on a started trip back to her when fission, where one of the feeling be gigs, he documented took place or the yoga fill around here with almost eskoville. this is where it was lost on to you. good. the greeneville you to the stage was where does white building is now, will support turn up, give on from the back towards the road. and over here was the audience flow to hoover some go. so hopefully come over hello for him. and you have to realize that back in the communist east, everything that happened in the cities was closely monitored by the authorities on bothered to brochures final. so it was typical of that time that alternative music flourished in the province identity, music builder, old stone, and introduce the lun for ship. you are a pound and make music in the east. there was no going back because there was no such thing as fame or success in communist east germany. you would take more seriously because you had something to say you had driven by something inside to make music. house music among folk shirtless stood in as feeling be drummer on the 1988 tor he now runs the strand for the restaurant in near by shredding. when clear, the room from the ceiling, the telephone rang and it was feeling b singer al yashira and he said have you got time? we're playing in vis more tomorrow and we need a drummer. i said, i don't know the songs, no problem how we'll go through it a half hour rehearsal and then you'll be able to do it. even the courts intern canceled us, candid australia. we're going to swearing now and we'll pick up our new drummer. hi, fall gray, up. what on this i invited them or of any feeling because they not at that time i seen feeling be playing a few times and i thought their show was so great. it was the show power landers put on what was done, and i realized it was offered the benefit of many different drummers who filled in . so if you happen to mow, oh, so they would know what to play limited most of us at home and how would move in a certain way if it were, i'm still in a valley thing which is often brought up is the concert on the beach and movie there's a banner blowing in the wind with feeling be written on atlanta. you had a bunch of punk po going and i was sitting in a wicker beach chair and does it see him? him, sean corp. it was funny to drum like that. it's issue on ph franco to tom. these gigs were basically art happenings of the act soon. 1 of april people, we just turn up at a camping side or on the beach in a truck or clubs or to understand the doors would fly open. we weren't even announced it was like a re, an ard attack over here comes the band with fire. you compliment what's had it. we just want you to play a young fool. the locals help schumann track down the blacksmith's work shop. that was the location for an experimental improvisation in his film more than 30 years ago. ah, your notion pow landers from feeling be now ramstein. they banged out the rhythm here closer people. and i'd say that this was later incorporated into ramstein music mimicry. so this blacksmith here is really one of the original places where ramstein was forged in trillion con ramstein. singer tillman started out as a drama in the band 1st aah. sch. in nearby shaheen. firm shit le witnessed one of the bands early concerts here. there are of, of yes it was here. he bruce date with here coming to in. and i remember looking at the drum kit because they had asked me if i could be ready to jump in. if to linda man could make it as, as, as a tom lines playing come to lindon to i can't remember why they said he might not show val me out for him at while, but that's why i remember that day so well in at least, michelle, i was scared of august and excited. ultimately it will soon as well. i didn't really know what their music was like. it was new to me, lloyd did. one of them said, just play anything you don't, he was absurd and so on. but the band herndon comes up and the drummer was punctual didn't gazande on till to play. and i was so happy on that i didn't have to get on stage look list as his initial buena most. ah ramstein sing a chill. lindman came from a broken home. his father vernon lindman was a renowned children's book, author, and poet in communist east germany, a local school that is his father's name. for a while chill lived with his father in the country side. his father described the difficult relationship with his 19 year old son in one of his books. it ends with a fight after which till leaves home. nowadays, though when not untold, lindman spends a lot of time in the region where his mother and sister still live. i fish, i hunt, i stay at the lake. i sleep in the woods at night and listen, i listen to nature for the locals. he's just another guy for one says to i'm dressed till his relatively normal person has all the people known here. hello. everyone has had something to do with me. i believe he knows a lot of people in the village and he's actually a perfectly normal person just like anybody else. and he's kept his feet on the growl on quality, forest and his to be them. he had to yeah. can i got to no tell when my tractor broke down. it's also been yeah, it just wouldn't move them big. oh, good. and so i went off to the village, looking for someone who could lend me a battery or to start the tractor gun on it. and then i bumped into till at the station and he came along and got me a battery, you game well and, and we managed to get the tractor going again and i gave you that gang. that was my 1st encounter with tell to esther this to your contact to louisa over there to come in all seasons. yeah, i'd say then tell is rooted in a very grounded and elemental feeling the do without them feeling on dust. does how to both of and this does have something to do with this rule region here in a court place till he was a basket weaver for a time. oh no, no. he was always grappling with real tough physical things. and it's my belief that it was a softie from the city would never have made music like that. it took the music goober not be that as it may, linda men met up with lenders and flock her after a concert in her and facial lindman plus, feeling b, make up 2 thirds of ramstein. there is still definitely something of the east german, fun punk band discernible in ramstein were saying for example, performance. oh, it's a unique sense of humor and concerts on the beach. oh, in berlin, feeling they had, i had what is in this building. we met up with journalist of lou decker, he wrote the best selling german ramstein biography. in the beginning, there was fire i was standing in front of the house of i use her own power, which was the lead singer of for feeling b. he was living here in a squatted house and 2 houses. her father on the street were living pol anderson's aflac and all the building occupied by landers and christian flock. lawrence is empty. the name laurence is still on the bell. the rundown building is a relic of another era in an area where gentrification has taken hold. but in the last years of communist east germany, the neighbourhood was a hot bed of descent. it was a very special district of his berlin because all the sold, working houses were abandoned, abandoned. they were empty. lots of them are occupied by the different persons and they moved here in the time i went to walk home shortly before the war came down. and that's where we were. the punk music were, was lift or by the people which was something like a kind of resistance her in opposition to her communist system. this opposition boils over in 1989. good evening once again in eastern europe. what was once inconceivable has become reality. on the night, the burning wolf fell feeding b had permission from the authorities to play in west berlin, landers and flock r. we're actually on stage when the news of the berlin wall falling broke, completely unaware of the history unfolding outside the short lived rock venue. the point club were ramstein members played on the night. the wall fell, was situated here in the alternative district courts, but not far from the border crossing between east and west. the premises are now occupied by creative community, friends of friends. i think the state was here somewhere for barbara now it's an office during the concert happened, beds are more and more friends from east berlin were coming in to the room. and after the concert was over, they heard that the wall came down, and this was an extreme, important moment for lunch time, because without the fall of her bowling wall, there would have been no ramstein. garrett schultz works here as head of events in the early ninety's. he played bass in various bands and supported feeling be on tours in eastern germany. he says the bands were often attacked by far right wing youths. oh, it does come with kicks in, caught puss and the skies either were waiting for us outside. so it was a constant struggle with security, or they take the bus after wow, everyone got drunk and then of course fights evolved was high tension and we have a few gigs which is fun out after a couple of songs. okay. my god, 80 percent of these guys are nazis. in his ramstein biography of luda co also came to the conclusion that the accusations against the band were unfounded. all of the musicians they came from families that were all close even close to the system. all of them you, those who weren't involved in politics were raised most of them and in left winged households with left wing parents and pang as the punk as well. obviously you belong to the left, the wing seen, and you fight against the right wing people about macys euclid. there were clashes as well and they have been beaten by a right wing pulse into the pants and not the other way long. this is what ramstein singer chill lindman had to say about the topic. we are all from east germany and grew up as socialists. we were all i the punks, all goths we hate not sees. so is the band really named after that horrific show catastrophe! the case for the defense i missed an early song, ramstein was about the accident and the band became known as that band with the ramstein song. then the ramstein band. and finally, ramstein the extra m was either a mistake or a diversionary tactic, allowing them to disclaim the connection. so yes, the band is named after the air show disaster. but while this may be evidence of bad taste in a well established metal tradition, is it evidence of extreme right wing leanings? next of the album cover, some said the boys presented themselves as members of the march the rice for guitarist richard crisp. or though the pick was more like an and for a gay porno. the band was apparently freaked out by the cover art, and they had it changed before the albums, us release, or the bands live performances awfully choreographed. they do exploit the suggestive power of mass events maximizing the emotional impact of the music and the spectacle. ramstein fans say the life shows or irresistible due to hans do asked me very clearly in tanks to praise you out of control. i'm learning german for and i might just finish my 1st year who out there that the nazis were pioneers and masters of the art of persuasion of propaganda and mass communication. but the techniques they developed are to day commonplace in advertising, every major rock cake with the light show out a little to the night rallies. but what about the use of a film by nazi propagandist, lenny reef and style in the stripped video? either of them of them let me recon stars. olympics film was co commissioned by the reich, ministry of public enlightment and propaganda. a nazi government agency dedicated to enforcing nazi ideology. nonetheless, there was a big debate about the artistic merits of the film. it was included in a, b, b, c, list of the $100.00 greatest films directed by women. ramstein have defended its use, arguing that good art knows no political allegiances and saying that the footage is an example of a visionary work of arts. mm. people let me click on dish real poverty. ironically ramstein if will became the official song of the german team at the tokyo paralympics in august 2021. but what about ramsay members playing holocaust victims in the deutschland video? oh, wow. those images were released as a teaser for the video rod. but when the full epic video came out, we saw ramstein playing teutonic nights. not sees east german communists and more. jemaya is played by a black actress. the song has been interpreted as critical of nationalism. the message is germany. i cannot love you because of all those terrible things in your past. let out a few things such a jest, ramstein are more likely left wing than right. at a concert in germany to linda men greeted his band colleagues arrival on stage and rob dingey, holding up a welcome sign scene at the band packing refugees. welcome message. at a concert in poland were l g. b t q writes were under attack. kristof snyder waived a rainbow flag shide opposed to pick on instagram with the message equal rights for all. ah, and we're not quite john. there's also the 2001 song links. why do i fear left to free for that said, basically, well, we're all left deeds then there's a song against homophobia, man, gate, and man. and i said, and a tongue in cheek song against imperialism and colonialism called out slander. with ah, okay, the case for the defense arrests are the many accusations ramstein have faced over the years. it's justified. it's up to you the jury to decide on the evidence present age. ramstein reputation rests with you. that covered pandemic was a hard time for fans of ramstein, truly spectacular life showed but in 2022. ramstein returned with a new studio album and a sold out torn in germany. it's spawn 5 hit singles, including the melancholic title track site. oh, fern samson's tin, the line benched in so is a z times a week for door h been a was this evidence of a softer ramstein? there were some harder riffs and plenty of black humor on sick tack. but the grotesque critique of beauty, ideals, and plastic surgery, i only stared my old controversy with the final track on the album a year left. many fans wondering if ramstein might be planning to call it a day. but the band have sought to reassure and will hit the road again. in 2023. they sold more than a 1000000 tickets for the european tour in just a few hours. hampshire . still clearly having fun together and pushing the boundaries of good taste. because of yeah, it's the sins of the letters tighten and im fi as opposed to lord michigan ramstein still rocking stale road in the us and still causing controversy with ah, with 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