Speaking on the senate floor, reid called for congress to unite after weeks of slamming Tea Party Republicans as fanatics, extremists and anarchists. This is not a time for pointing fingers. This is a time of reconciliation. I look forward to working with my colleagues on both sides of this great capital, this remarkable agreement that will protect the longterm health of our economy im sorry, and avert a default on our nations debt, allow us to set a foundation for economic expansion. Dont you love reid talking about this is a time for reconciliation. Hes such a sweet guy really. Mcconnell for his part claiming victory for republicans and the fact the sequester cuts were preserved. He went on to assure members of his party that he remains committed in the fight to repeal obama care. Republicans remain determined to repeal this terrible law. But for today, for today, the relief we hope for is to reopen the government, avoid default, and protect the historic cuts we achieved under the budget control act. This is far less than many of us had hoped for, frankly, but its far better than what some had sought. Now is time for republicans to unite behind other crucial goals. Its a little difficult, isnt it, to discern which are the losers, which are the winners. But the losers in this deal apparently arent you and me. Nothing was done to address our 17 trillion debt. Nothing was done to address the stunning failure and what is a train wreck that is obvious by the day, obama care. Two republican members of congress have different views on the senate plan. Joining us is congresswoman renee al mers, republican womens policy committee and charlie dent, members of Appropriations Committee as well as ethics committee. We thank you both for being here. This has been a tough day. Let me begin with you, congresswoman, what do you expect to be the consequences of the deal and will the house approve it. It will get passed. I wont be in favor to vote for it because it simply does not have in it what i promised my constituents i would vote if we raised the debt ceilings. I needed more reforms. It wasnt there. I wanted delay of the obama care individual mandate, it was not there. This is the issue. I do believe it will pass. It has been up and down. It has been a tough time for us. I think actually this is a learning time for us, and i think we could all come together and move forward because weve got to fight for the American People. Congressman dent, will you support the deal tonight . Yes, i will. Its absolutely essential that we as members of Congress Fulfill our most basic responsibility and that is to pass the budget and essentially fund the government. The government should have never been shut down in the first place. Even more important its essential that america never default on its obligations. There are many people who would be so negatively impacted. Obviously the market has responded well. Many real people would have been affected if Interest Rates spiked up plunging into recession, who knows this would have taken us into a abyss no one wants to go. This is not a time for highfiving or spiking the football, this is the time we show American People we have the capacity for selfgovernance. Do you think republicans, each of you with your different views on that vote tonight, both of you, both republicans. Your big caucus is in charge of this deal tonight. At what point does the Republican Party have to say to its membership, the entire caucus, weve got to come up with new approaches because these things are taking a real toll on the brand of the Republican Party, a real toll on your prospects. By that i mean, congressman dent, to some you appear too acquiescent, and congresswoman, to some you seem too strident, perhaps even extreme. How do you reconcile this. You say its a learning moment and this teachable moment, one of defeat, what do you do . I think the important thing here is that we have to remember that each one of us has a different constituency we represent. Sure. My district is very different than charlies. So we have to come together as a unified group. We have to respect each others views. We have to understand that the ultimate goal here is to work for the American People and get fiscal responsibility back on track in washington, which as you know has been off track for a long time. I believe we can do that. We have to make sure were following a strategy. Sometimes that strategy comes in pieces and part, sometimes doesnt come with one fell swoop. I have to say one thing. The difference of opinion between myself and renee and many others, were debating tactics. Unfortunately im not saying renee in this case but there are some in this town who have elevated tactical disputes and elevated them to philosophical disagreements. Renee and i both agree obama care is causing all sorts of problems. We want to get this repealed, defunded, delayed, but we have a responsibility to govern. Some suggested because we disagree with the approach of defunding that we now support obama care. Thats absurd. A good conservative like renee will be called names, shes not pure enough, even though shes conservative, may have had tactical disagreements because she didnt want to take it where it was. What about you . Dont leave yourself out of the party. Of course. But i was saying renee would be called names unfairly. We as republicans should not elevate these tactical disagreements into matters of such greater magnitude as has been the case by some in our party unfortunately. Were talking with congresswoman el mers, congressman dent. Well continue this conversation right after this quick commercial break. Stay with us. Were coming right back. In washington the shutdown crisis, done. Up neck, the obama care train wreck. Well have the latest on the disastrous Health Care Rollout straight ahead. The disastrous rollout of obama care, the new study shows less than 1 of those that visited the Insurance Exchange website in its first week actually enrolled for coverage. About 36,000 people. By the way, traffic to health care. Com has plummeted nearly 90 since it was launched on october 1st, down 90 from what were already very low numbers, adding to what obviously would likely be administration concerns about privacy as well as users, reports that healthcare. Gov has this sentence buried in the fine print. Are you ready . You have no reasonable expectation of privacy regarding any communication or data transiting or stored on this information system. How about that. Were talking about congresswoman Renee Ellmers and congressman charlie dent. 90 folks. The discussion has been there would be something done about obama care in your negotiations, your strategy and tactics over the debt ceiling and the continuing resolution. Here it is. Do you folks at this point think you really need to do much . I mean, this is, as Speaker Boehner said, its a train wreck and the train wreck keeps getting worse by the day. Why do anything at this point . Well, you know, it is failing. It should be a huge and total and complete embarrassment to the obama administration. If we hadnt ended up in the shutdown situation, this would be the complete total focus of the media and the shutdown overshadowed that. It is a complete failure. It is not the promises that were made. These promises have been broken. We were told in energy and commerce, in all our subcommittees, october 1st, for sure, these exchanges would be up and running, from Kathleen Sebelius on down through the agencies. We are going to have to get answers for this. This is over 600 million worth of hardworking taxpayer dollars that have been spent on a useless system. It is an outrage, a shame, a disgrace and a joke. But the fact is you guys havent been able to get answers. You havent been able to get answers on benghazi. You havent been able to get answers on Internal Revenue targeting of tea party groups, churches, religious organizations. You say that. But this administration has stonewalled you folks right to this very day without ponsequence. Congressman dent, when in the world are you all going to find out and be honest about the limits of congressional power and the need to try a different approach . Let me just say something. If you will, dont disappoint me and not answer my question. We are fighting this Administration Every day. We watch them abuse their executive authority on matters of domestic policy. President obama referred to george bush and his administration as imperfectly imperial presidency was he asserted himself. This president abused his authority. We have tried to overrule him on so many issues. For example, he delayed the employer mandate. I agree. He tried to do it legislatively and he said he would veto the bill. Congressman, if i apologize for interrupting. You and i agree on that. My question goes to are you going to persist in the same tactics and strategies youve ememployed for more than a year without consequence or result. Okay. The answer to that question is, we must ploy tactics whe we have a realistic expectation of success. That is the key. I think weve learned a lesson, i hope weve learned a lesson with defunding of obama care, realizing that is not going to be a realistic expectation of success. We must pick our fights more carefully. One thing ive learned out of this situation, the democrats now agree with us. We need to repeal that medical device tax, get rid of this or delay. It is an ideological partisan debate, in its face outrageously bad public policy. Its disgusting. We agree. You mentioned the privacy violations. So much of the focus has been on the nsa where theres all sorts of congressional oversight. With respect to the obama care exchanges, look at the potential privacy violations, same with the Consumer Financial protection bureau. The fear of privacy from government these massive beaurocracies created with very little congressional oversight. Thats my biggest fear, far less than the nsa. We thank you very much for being here. We appreciate you sharing your views, your thoughts. As you said, congresswoman ellmers, a learning moment, a teachable moment for i think just about everybody involved. We thank you so much. Absolutely. Thank you, lou. Congressman dent, thank you. Up next here, the white house says there are no winners in the shutdown, at least the president s spokesman does. The debt ceiling deal, we know the losers. In the chalk talk tonight, well show you which group the president and Congressional Democrats really fall into. A little challenge to perhaps the veracity, validity of comments. Were going to take both parties on a Little Journey to truth next. Thank you orville and wilbur. Amelia. Neil and buzz for teaching us that you cant create the future. By clinging to the past. And with that youre history. Instead of looking behind. Delta is looking beyond. 80 thousand of us investing billions. In everything from the best experiences below. To the finest comforts above. Were not simply saluting history. Were making it. The president gloating after House Republicans and Speaker Boehner abandoned their debt ceiling bill. Talk about a fellow who thinks hes all that. Here he is. There have been repeated situations where we have agreements and then he goes back and it turns out he cant control his caucus. One thing ive shown is that if i say im prepared to compromise on something, i can deliver votes and we can get it done. Wow. Before the president explodes with selfadmiration, wed like to gently remind the president he hasnt delivered much to celebrate. Yes, it looks like he may get that clean continuing resolution bill to keep the government running until january 15th, a clean debt ceiling height through february 7th, but doesnt it just mean well be watching this movie all over again in three months time . After all of this nonsense, after all of this nonsense, the president , the republicans have done absolutely nothing to deal with our nearly 17 trillion in debt. They have done nothing to fix or delay the obama care train wreck and the 1. 8 trillionhat looks like it may be one of the most efficient pieces of legislation passed by congress, well, certainly in memory if not perhaps in all of this countrys history. One thing, eligibility for subsidies is no longer on the honor system so score one for American People on the deal. Polls arent good for republicans but they arent good for this white house either. The president s average approval is at 43 . More than half of all americans, 51 disapprove of his job performance. This is not a president who seems appropriately to be congratulating himself or just full of himself. In a new Pew Research Survey shows 81 81 of americans are dissatisfied with the way things are going in this country compared to just 14 who are satisfied. The worst reading since the 2008 financial crisis. The president boasts he always delivers the votes to get things done. Well, i dont know where hes getting that. It hasnt been true this year. It hasnt been true for gun control. It hasnt been true for immigration. It hasnt been true for his plan to strike syria. The president was a lame duck before we entered the shutdown and there are every indication that he emerges from it an even lamer duck. Someone say on that basis republicans are winning, but thats pure nonsense. Lets face it, republicans and democrats are about as screwed up and about as screwed up as this country could possibly stand. Well be right back. Not a good day for ted cruz and the cruzers. Whats the the deal with the gop and all those splinters . Up next, Citizens United president. When we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals help the gulf recover and learn from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company. I can tell you safety is at the heart of everything we do. Weve added cuttingedge technology, like a new deepwater well cap and a stateoftheart monitoring center, whe experts watch over all drilling activity twentyfourseven. And were sharing what weve learned, so we can all produce energy more safely. Our commitment has never been stronger. Ido more with less with buss energy. Hp is help. Soon, the worlds most intelligent servers, designed by hp, will give ups over twice the performance, using forty percent less energy. Multiply that across over a thousand locations, and theyll provide the same benefit to the environment as over 60,000 trees. Thats a trend we can all get behind. My next guest says the senate deal is a big loss for americans and the conservative movement. Joining us now is david bossie. Hes president of Citizens United. David, this has been an ugly spectacle by any standard. Worse for the republicans . Well, look, lou, thanks for having me back, first of all. It is a tough situation. You have americans out there who really arent focused on whats really the essence of the problem. They are focused on our government is closed. The debt ceiling is going to be breached. Those are important things but they are not looking at the root cause. Thats what the republicans were trying to do. In my book, the mainstream media, which i believe in media bias, i think this is where they help the president sell his message that the republicans were the party of no, when, in fact, john boehner was time and time going to the white house with offers, going to harry reid with offers, and he was being told no. Im against this deal. I think its a bad deal. This is a kick the can down the road deal. Lou, were not dealing with our financial problems. Were not dealing with here is the deal. If this had been the democrats who had come with a proposition to shut the government down 16 days, if it had been the democrats who came with a proposition that threatened or at least put the party in the position of being accused of threatening the countrys Credit Rating and default, i mean, you and the conservative movement would have been howling. I dont understand how there is that disconnect between the conservative movement and what is tran spirspiring on capitol. Because it seems to me its not only a losing strategy but a reckless strategy, one that isnt constant with conservative movements and its principles and the Republican Party. Sure. Tactics are im not arguing the tactics. What im saying is whether its dealing with the cost and destruction of the system with obama care, whether its dealing with debt, dealing with spending, dealing with our debt ceiling, our national debt, it is really none of those issues are being dealt with here. It is a bipartisan effort to do nothing. Thats what weve done here today. Its doing nothing in the big scheme of things, the big picture from the business standpoint. Were going to have these exact same fights in january and february were having today. That is unhealthy. Its unhealthy if the conservatives if the Republican Party, i couldnt agree with you more, doesnt learn something as congresswoman Renee Ellmers is saying. If they dont learn something from this, obviously this spectacle, they didnt learn anything from 2011, they must learn something they being Republican Leaders and conservatives. Will point out the senate has begun voting. David, let me ask you this. Senator ted cruz, he now has a very small group of folks around him. He represents a lot of important principles for millions of americans. But he has stepped in it, has he not, politically and personally here with his inadroit tactics in the senate. Look, we can debate tactics. I believe without senator cruz we would not be here today discussing these important issues over the last couple of weeks. Their focus would not be on obama care, the focus wouldnt be on the debt ceiling, the focus wouldnt be on spending. I applaud what hes done. He has come here as a change agent. He was elected by texans to come here as a change agent. That is what hes doing, living up to his obligations, to his election promises. I applaud him for it. His Approval Ratings, we did a poll a week ago in texas. His Approval Ratings are through the roof in texas. Thats what he cares about. He does care obviously about the Republican Party and about the conservative movement but hes here as a change agent not to manage the decay. Thats what the rest of these people are about, managing the decay. Can you manage decay or for that matter any other important issue when you are in control of only onethird of this government and only onethird of government that seems to want to abdicate their Constitutional Responsibilities more often than not. Look, one body of congress is onethird of the government. Look, they cant do anything without you, you cant do anything without them. You have to stand your ground at some point. Tackically can we do something . Hindsight is 2020. What i believe we need to take the next four months to tee up what were going to do individually, either through the appropriations process if the Republican Party, david, im going to have to call it there because of time. If the Republican Party doesnt learn something here in the next few months, its not going to be a very happy january and february for the party. Im sure with guiding and leading lights like you, prospects of good for learning something, what would the president say, a teachable moment. 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After a moderately severe flu season i want to be prepared like you. Joining me is a member of the fox news million aid team and great guy, professor of medicine nyu medical center. And here to receive a flu shot one of our esteemed producers lee ann miller. Great to see you out here. I think ill join you if you dont mind. Lets start with the flu. How bad is it expected to be . When should people be getting these shots . First of all, last year was actually a very bad flu season. They had more hospitalizations of elderly than the whole past decade when they were keeping figures. It was influenza a. It hit early, which is one of the reasons were here early giving flu shots. Id like to say flu shots are covered under obama care but you cant tell if they work. The nonobama care shot works. The doctor bringing not only flu shot but humor and great knowledge about all of this. The cdc shut down, they are bringing back some staff for various issues. Where are we . Are we vulnerable because of the shutdown . We are. The good news, 135 million shots have been made and distributed already. Were not really in a problem with flu shots and flu season isnt here in a big way yet. So if the Government Shutdown ends and cdc comes back in full force, twothirds of the cdc are out and they are very important in the flu season. The head of the cdc can say come back, we need you. Can we get a shot of lee ann here as mark and i are talking. Just stay on her for a moment, if you would, as we discuss the health care sector. Can we get a single of lee ann as we do this. I think everybody should im sorry to be mean. I take it back. The anticipation. You dressed for this. I did. Is he not the best. Hes the best. Incredible. Actually, i was thinking about this, i decided i would but after seeing you not even flinch. No. I think i can do this without tears. That felt wonderful. Dr. Siegel gave me my flu shot last year and it worked splendidly. Im going to risk all. By the way, does this have how many strains does it protect . By the way, im so happy youre not being a wimp, lou. Not yet. This covers three strains. They have a vaccine this year that will cover four strains. The extra strain is one thats fairly mild. So im okay with either one. Ill tell you the exciting news this year. One, they have made a vaccine finally if you have an egg allergy you actually can get a flu shot this year. They have one shot available thats not chicken eggs. I didnt realize they were that chicken eggs had anything to do with it all. Since the 1950s they have been making flu shots with chicken eggs. The elderly they have a vaccine extra strong. They found elderly either needed two shots or they werent responding well enough. Define elderly . Older than you and me. One of my favorite lines about middle age. Middle age is always five years older than you are. Thats exactly right. Are you going to give me the shot . Hes good, folks. Your viewers saw that going in. You dont need a bandaid . No. I gave her one. She deserves it. Thanks, lou. I dont have to pretty up my arm. If i got blood on this shirt, my wife is going to give me the dickens. One thing viewers should know, you could have flulike symptoms for 24 hours after this but it is not the flu. You cannot get the flu from a flu shot. That is true. If you got the flu from a flu shot, that might be a little annoying. Not possible. Not possible. I appreciate you doing that. How many people should be getting this . I hear a lot of people say im not going to get the flu shot, some of the 20 somethings in particular. Immunity. If you have a baby, you want a flu shot so the flu didnt enter the house. Pregnant woman, chronic illness, they need flu shots but everyone around them needs a flu shot to create a ring of immunity. Youre helping your neighbor now. I feel part of the herd. Doctor, always great to have you. Thank you. Lee ann, you were very brave. It took a lot of courage. You inspired me. Thank you. Up next democrats wont budge on obama care despite its failed rollout. And they are pushing the house of representatives to take up immigration. Congressman joins us to talk about his brandnew book Still Dreaming. Is Immigration Reform likely to be a reality . Well take it up with the congressman here next. We will take it up with the friday night, buddy. You are gonna need a wingman. And with my cash back, you are money. Forget him. My Airline Miles will take your game worldwide. What im really looking for is i got two words for you rewards. Theres got to be better cards than this. [ male announcer ] theres a better way with creditcards. Com. Compare hundreds of cards from all the major banks to find the one thats right for you. Its simple. Search, compare, and apply at creditcards. Com. First rounds on me. Search, compare, and apply at creditcards. Com. To find you a great deal, even if its not with us. [ ding ] oh, thats helpful well, our company does that, too. Actually, we invented that. Its like a sauna in here. Helping you save, even if its not with us now, thats progressive call or click today. No mas pantalones after james wood says he doesnt ever expect to work again in hollywood after criticizing president obama, among his recent tweets, quote, this president is a true abomination. To have barricaded world war ii vet but allow illegal aliens privilege. Quote, a vile, a small, small man. Woods, however, refusing to appear on cable news shows. He appears to want to work in hollywood again. Well see how that works out. Thousands of protesters took to the National Mall tuesday despite a partial shutdown rallying for government reform. My next guest among the eight lawmakers arrested during that rally says theres still hope for comprehensive Immigration Reform or amnesty. Joining me is congressman Luis Gutierrez, a member of the house judiciary and intelligence committee. Hes the author of the new book Still Dreaming, my journey from the barrio to capitol hill. Thanks for being here. Thanks for having me, lou. As we were watching you on the mall getting arrested, im thinking about your book and thinking how many authors want to get arrested on the National Mall when they have a new book out. Brilliantly done. On the mall, it is a real setting for the title of your book. How do you react to those who complain about Illegal Immigrants on the mall instead of our vets permitted and their families permitted on the mall when its so clearly a partisan exercise. Here is what i think. I think that the vets had a right, the world war ii vets. What wasnt recognized the same day, there were korean vets that came from puerto rico. The 65th infantry served with much valor and distinction. Many died in korea fighting from puerto rico. I see a korean veteran right there, congressman Charlie Rangel of new york. He rose to captain while he was serving in the u. S. Army and won the bronze star. So you know, they exercised their First Amendment rights and they were let in. Bravo. Im so happy for them. Thats what those of us to say we were illegals, i was born here in this country in the United States of america. Hundreds of us were, not just eight members of congress, hundreds were but marching. Your book. Its a great country. Are we arguing over whether its great. Thats what i like about you, congressman. We can argue on an agreement. Its a great country. Lets fight. Whats my book. Whats the book about, right . Its about a kid whose mom and dad come here with nothing, right. Dont understand the language. Dont even have a coat. Dont even have a grade school education. They come and work hard. Their kid gets to go into the oval office and sit across from the president of the united stat states. Thats the kind of arc and story we like to talk about. Me, too. Phats why youre here. Its an inspirational story, your life is. Thank you, thank you. You and i have argued about this issue or that. I like it best when cause to chicago and we were both on the set together. That was good. That was good. It got a little animated as i recall. We had a few youtube hits on that one. The idea that you right now are an example of the american dream, name the one thing, the one reason that Luis Gutierrez got a break and became who you are, the one event. Who was the great equalizer that gave you the opportunity . I have to say my dad and my mom. They were the first examples. My mom woke up really early to take two buses to go to work and my dad drove a cab. As i relate in my book, i had to drive a cab for a few years. I remember the sadness in my dads eyes when i went back to visit, after so much effort and money, youre in the same place. I kept telling him, dad, its the beginning. I want to provide for my wife and my daughter. Its all i can do to provide for them. I want a sense of selfrespect. You know what, if driving a cab is what i have to do, its what im going to do. They really inculcated in me the values of hard work and tenacity and moving ahead. As my dad passed away two years ago, i was beginning to write the book. He said the best thing i did for you was bring you to the island of puerto rico. There were gangs. My parents, devout catholics saw john f. Kennedy, robert kennedy, two president s, one they thought was going to be president assassinated. They saw gangs. They took me to an island in puerto rico, in the mountains. You know something, it was pretty good being in the rural mountains of puerto rico, far away from the big city of chicago. But i think they did the right step and they helped me so much. You know, were always a reflection of our parents as much as we say were different. When were fortunate to have parents. Yes. Who support us, who are there for us. I think youre exactly right. So many people are ignoring how important parents are. It is absolutely critical to us. My grandson luisito, hes so lucky because he has a mom, has he a dad. We live in a twoflat in chicago. They have the first floor apartment. Im not going to let my twoyearold grandson live on the second floor and drive me crazy running back and forth. They live on the first floor. I hear them enough from there. My wife and i live on the second floor. He has four of us. Has he two grandparents and a mom and a dad. You know something, it is such a struggle in Todays Society with little kids. Yes, four of us. We surround him and nurture him and make sure hes going to grow up to be strong and smart. Good. We wish him all of the very best as we do you. Thank you. Congressman, the book is Still Dreaming it to you highly. Its Available Online everywhere. Up next he led the union to victory in the civil war but the new book the Unlikely Hero shows how ulysses s. Grant may have done his most important work in the white house, author here with us next. 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Joining us to talk about grants great influence during both the civil war and service in the white house, the former editor in chief of simon schuster, author Michael Korda, author of the illustrated and published book ulysses s. Grant. First of all, michael, it is great to see you. What a splendid, splendid book with so many magnificent illustrations. Im so thrilled to see you, ive got to think what the first question will be. Lets start with grant is generally i dont think regarded as a president too often by the popular press but mayor as a general, brilliant general. The best of american generals. No question about that. I think he was a much better president than he was given credit for. He kept us out of two wars, just like the biography i wrote. Like all good generals, he never wanted to fight another war again. And he also managed to sow together the two parts of the country that had been separated in a way that had a certain dignity and a certain honesty. He ended the civil war on a note of grace that would have been very hard for anybody else to do. As you document, grant was, indeed, naive in business and perhaps carols in his personal finances, but, my gosh, you as a former publisher, you will always be a publisher. You point out his book was fantastic. He made, what, almost a half million dollars. In terms of money, he probably made more money from a book than anyone else in the history of american publishing. The numbers were brought up today. It is the most extraordinary story. I tell it because his publisher is mark twain. Not a bad publisher. Not a bad publisher. He paid grant and was dying of it before the book was written and went out and sold the book door onto door. At one time in the United States above the mason dixon line, if you found two books, one would be the bible and the other would be grants memoirs, moby dick, the two masters of american literatures. Literature and certainly military maneuvers, tactics and strategy documenting a brilliant military career that served, i guess its still being read in war colleges across the world. Its still in print, still read in libraries everywhere. Its probably the most modest and best written and the most the most readable of american war memoirs. Was grant modest . Was he modest as president . Was he modest as a general . I think his modesty was one of his most enduring qualities. There was no bombbast, no false courage. He looked you in the eye. He had his faults. Look at his predict on the 50 bill. He was a man capable of getting drunk and hungover, which is the way he looked on the 50 bill. I love your description of him, having imbibed the previous evening too much. Grant drank heavily. Is it apocryphal he said whatever he drinks, lets get a case for all our generals. Its true. Grant was a sporadic drunk. He wasnt a drunk in that sense. If he was separate and alone and didnt know what he wanted to do next, he would go upstairs with a bottle of booze and drink himself into incensability. It is true when he won and people complained to lincoln he shouldnt be promoted to Major General because of his drinking. He said find out what brand of liquor he drinks and send a barrel to each of my generals. I wonder what our generals today drink and how much and what brand. Im suspecting they cut their liquor with a certain amount of water these days. With that you know what Michael Korda thinks of our generals these days. Michael korda, great to have you. We recommend the book highly. A great Coffee Table Book and better read. So ulysses s. Grant. Good night from new york. Ke youe market. Thanks a lot and thank you for watching. See you tomorrow. None of us should be negotiating on the debt ceiling. She just the listed. John that is what the big spender say, and they get their way, but what if this were the budget of someone you knew. John what do you think of these people, making 24,000, spending 35,000, almost 11,000 in debt. Get there priorities straight on what they need to be spending and saving money on. John this is the federal budget. I just took zeros of. Suppose america were a person. I would like to raise my debt limit