If it became clear that they were using various types of procedures to get around the will of the people. I wouldnt be part of it. Neil would you stop being a republican . I dont know but i might go back to being an independent. Charles a lot of people talking about this, big news, could this be part of the gop explosion. David, you know, a lot of people are saying i know you dont consider the establishment but its the power brokers, guys like you who may get in the back room somewhere, break out a few cuban cigars, no matter who has the most votes, forget about it. Charles, thank you for flattering me. I definitely to carry that much of a stick in dc and its usually the establishment complaining. But let me tell you, i think its not a reality that you could have a broker convention, youre going to have over 2,000 delegates across the 50 states who are highly opinionated and leaders and party members, one i think it was naive of the chairman and senator to get together to talk about what you could do about it other than to plan how do you have an open and free convention. And then i was disappointed in carson kind of saying, well, maybe i will take my ball and go home. Be a leader and say, i want to be the leader of the republican party, lets have an open and fair convention. Charles i guess what ben carson is saying with donald trump is this would not be it would be a party its already an establishment that dropped the ball in so many ways, which is why the whole president ial run is looking like none other. It feels like theres a good chance no one will have enough votes to say im the decisive winner and there will be some form of haggling done. Theres so many people in the field that everybody other than trump has more than trump. As long as it remains large, that would be the issue. Thats not going to be the case by the time the Convention Comes around. Charles but its possible. Lets say you have a trump, cruz, rubio and carson. I mean, thats four guys who can sure. Charles someone with 50 . It goes through various ballots. If theres no winner in the first ballot, then theyre free to go elsewhere. A lot of pitching goes on and people can win delegates. You can go ballot after ballot in that regard and somebody with win over the diligaits. I like what dr. Carson did. He made a statement, not that hes going to run anybody as independent or as a thirdparty but that this is an important scenario about what the people want, but it highlights also the distrust thats within the system itself against the party bosses. I think that they should notice that. Charles they had this meeting and carson used the term will of the people. Listen, go with the votes. If you dont like it, its too bad. You cant change the rules because your guy is not in this. Its all about big money. If donald trump or ben carson gets in there and ted cruz, that washington wall street corridor where the money goes back and forth, billions if not trillions of dollars may be severed. Its almost evolving and changing. I actually heard dr. Carson Say Something different. I kind of did hear him say about being a independent and running as a third party. Charles he did say he would not run. He might become an independent. It gives you insight about how important the will of the people is to him. Charles if there were these kind that people have a right to fear, it feels like a thirdparty candidate will sink the gop nominee. Theres a great deal of concern that a thirdparty candidate trump in particular would hurt the gop nominee and maybe thats his plan all along is to sink the gop. Charles thats pretty cynical thinking. If you go back to the original thinking that hes been a conservative, working on behalf of the democrats to wreck the gop . You know, i doubt actually that donald trump would be a plant for anybody but i do think that he would be happy to have Hillary Clinton be president for a long time they were friends. He had most of views throughout the life mirror her views, now he ceased on immigration and became a republican candidate, but i itll have to wait to be seen. Now what he says, charles, if they treat me fairly,ly stay in the republican party. Everybody should be treated fairly and by the way, my prediction by the end of march we actually will see the usual trend come back and theyll be one or two people with one of them able to get a majority. If i could just add that at the dinner that so upset everybody about the broken convention, rubio, and bush. Charles the establishment . Yes, individuals in the lineup who are interested in the end and it tells you who is not there. Its less of a trump threat than they are concerned about ted cruz. He is on more ballots than any other candidate at this point. I think theyre realizing that ted cruz is coming from behind and might steal this whole thing. Charles donald trump is start to go focus his sights on political victim es and trump tweeting. Ted cruz is getting ready to attack. Im leading by so much, i hope so, he will fall like all the others. It will be easy. Ted cruz did not make statements behind his closed doors to his bosses. He should bring them out in the open. More fun that way. Cruz did something a little different. Maybe reverse psychology. Sorry to disappoint. Donald trump is terrific, deal with it. Im going to give you an of course oscar for that. [laughter] charles i tried to read it in the spirit. I dont blame ted cruz. I would not at this point in the game be launching an attack against donald trump. Classical, yeah, cruz doesnt need to do that. What cruz is doing is smart. Hes going to the south next week. Hes going to spend time down there getting ready for that super tuesday. He doesnt have to attack trump right now. Charles here is the thing. Can you be commander in chief if youre intimidated by donald trump . Youre afraid to offend donald trump . David donald trump is all talk and no action. You have to distinguish yourself. Interestingly i looked at this as a lesson for ted cruz that you have to remember in todays age that theres no comments behind closed doors. Remember what happened to romney four years ago. If he learn it had lesson now that will serve him if he become it is nominee. Charles you think thats a smart move . David you know, i think its a smart move for him. It actually is good for the whole party. I would not like candidates to attack each other personally. Hes going to have to distinguish hymn. Charles that was a regan commandment. Im a new yorker, you punch me in the mouth, you have to fight. Im sorry, you have to fight. Maybe it was working for ben carson for a while to take the high road. I think it was mix up on foreign policy. Donald trump did take down bush, theres no doubt he helped to take down walker and if you dont have the right stuff to get in scuffles with him, youre going to get banged up. Thats the key. I think that the weakness of the candidates that went after him, that just sped up their failure. This is where i think i think its great when candidates go after each other. We know that the democrats will do it. This is a good test. You have to be able to face certain people and you have to be able to do it with certain kind of politics. I want a leader to tell me what the benefits and the negatives are of someone el. I think its good. I also think that ted cruz as he moves up has not needed to do that but there will come a point where he is going to have some kind of conflict, and i look forward because itll be helpful in our choices. I agree, i think timing is key. Hes benefited enough from the carson implosion thats helped ted cruz. Hes kind of reaping the benefits. Its a little bit early for that. I dont think hes scared, charles. Charles charl thank you, guys, very much. Maria bartiromo sitting down with dr. Ben carson on monday morning to get the establishment gop, maybe trying to force candidate, what he will do, we heard he will leave the party but he will take it a step further. You will find out monday morning right here on the fox business network. Here it is, guys, the question for heads of state, love or fear, or in the case of donald trump, decisive or competent or likable and compassionate. Tweet me your thoughts. Some cash back cards love to overcomplicate things. Like limiting where you earn bonus cash back. Why put up with that . But the quicksilver card from capital one likes to keep it simple. Real simple. Im talking easy likea walkinthepark, nothingtoworryabout, manthatfeelsgood simple. 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So is it better to be feared than to be loved or more importantly which one will get you the gop nomination . National review reporter. Hillary kramer and back with us david mcintosh. Hillary, your tough on the outside and soft on the inside, who do you want it to be your leader . Of those qualifications or qualities whats most important . Its about love. Its about finding the attributes that make you feel good about the candidate and thats why right now is marco rubio. When it comes to donald trump its all ego and talk. Hes very disruptive and theres no love there which is why he will go so far. America lost place in the world and prosperity has vanished. No one feels the way they used to feel, who about the notion that tough love is long overdue. I certainly thing that charles why there has it been a lack of leadership . How do we deal with it . Soft landing. Everyone promises a soft landing and this is how we get there. Certain people are committing crimes, certain things are going wrong. We have to be honest and we have to fix it. Sure, donald trump is good at pointing out problems. What hes not good at though is coming up with a solution, anything that just fundamentally makes sense. He says crazy things all of the times and electorate cuts him a lot of stack. Charles people believe he will get the job done. David some people believe. Charles theres a video of him with his ego, oh, i wasnt scared. He talks a tough game. He has no substance. He was asked substantive questions. He could not give answers where marco rubio actually were. Charles marco rubio is pulling a carly fiorina. Hes start to go slip in the polls, here is the thing, david, we had a president , president obama who has gone around the world, apologized for our exceptionalism and these guys, he doesnt want to offend the terrorists, he doesnt want to call them bad names like radical muslims. David thats absolutely right, charles, and america is looking for a huge contrast. Trump he actually isnt decisive and not competent. He talks a big game, like on iraq, four weeks ago he was saying let russia take care of it. It was kind of the obama approach and then when attacks occurred in paris he was mr. Lets go get them. Thats not decisive. Thats a guy who were in the white house kind of blows in the wind. Charles he has set the tone, political agenda. You have to give him credit for that. Whatever he talks about is what becomes headlines. What are people more concerned about foreign policy, immigration, the economy used to be number one and thats fallen completely down. He doesnt get any credit for setting the agenda and if thats the case, thats some sorm of sort of decisiveness. In terms of confidence that donald trump has that has fill it had void that had we needed which is saying what is on everybodys mind. Donald trump says it. The problem is he isnt the businessman that everyone makes him out to be. When you look at him, if someone offends him he attacks him. If someone stands up to him, they can punch them out. Charles thats just how new yorkers are. [laughter] charles he just moved to brooklyn, thats why i said that. The remaining gop candidates are all going to take center stage. Its going to be in south carolina. Its going to be fanatic. Prince calls donald trump a disgrace to all of america and says that he should withdraw from the president ial race. We heard that one before. They keep piling on. They keep piling on. He keeps punching back. At ally bank no branches equals great rates. Its a fact. Kind of like shopping hungry equals overshopping. At ally bank no branches equalsits a fact. Kind of like mute buttons equal danger. That sound good . Not being on this phone call sounds good. Its not muted. Was that you jason . It was geoffrey it was jason. It couldve been brenda. Charles its been going on all week. Now we have more breaking news for you. Out of chicago protestors have once again starting, they are blocking traffic. All week long theres been protestors blocking and capitalism, calling for resignation of the mayor. We are going to keep you posted as this heats up. We also have more breaking for you. This is from saudi billionaire attacking donald trump, the fact that he put out a tweet just a homes ago, you are a disgrace not just for gop but to all americans, withdraw from the president ial race as you will never win. It seems like the world is piling on the gop winner. Trump says, hes going to win a nomination. They are kidding themselves. I think im going to win. Im not one of these other guys that goes down. I dont go down. I go up. Do you have a warning for gop leaders . I say, folks, im sorry i did this to you. You have to get used to it. Its one of those problems in life. Charles you can catch more of the interview on the local fox station. Before i get to the panel i want to remind the audience that prince ali is investor of fox business parent company, about 1 stake. By the way, in addition to all these other people piling on, theres a petition in the uk over half a million signatures so far, they say we dont want trump in the nation n the country, they are fighting isis, they are fighting trump. Get this, even in new york gop says we want trump out of the party. All right, eric, this is the kind of stuff that at one hand reflects sort of the general discomfort with donald trump but for those fans, those people who believe in them it fuels their fire even more and cements them and they are going to stick with him. This is what his supporters want to hear. Its me against the world, its us against the world. We are trying to set a tone here that is Something Different than what youve ever seen. Now with the prince saying we dont want trump, hes going to tell the followers, im sure. They dont even want me because im going to keep charles come on, you have to be kidding me. He thinks that hes going to put out a tweet and demand [laughter] charles one of the best investors ever. This is a dumb move in my mind. I dont think Trump Supporters have a saudi prince knows whats representative of this. This is a country thats chopping off heads and keeping women pregnant. This is the kind of thing that trumps wake up in the morning for. This is early christmas for donald trump, right, this is him getting to go on the campaign trail and say, look at how scared they are of me. They are running on their heels. Its definitely this is an indication of how threat i think am and a change im going to make in america. Charles a guy who ran for mayor last time around here in new york, i interviewed him, this is a guy, listen, im from stopping frisk, a readmeat kind of guy. I was so priced that he want today kick trump out of the republican party. I thought trump would have been their goto guy. Trump might be red meatish but not partisan. Hes not really running as conservative nor republican. Hes running at donald trump. Theres a Political Risk from exiling him from the party as they were threatening of doing. Charles the main gop is afraid of that money. You cut off that access to the white house and that is billions and billions of dollars. Speaking of money and losses the dow jones more than 3 for the week. So everyone is wondering is it this terrorism t weak economy or next weeks interest hike. Last summer, i said, be cool when the market took a hammer hit and buy, every stock i told you to buy went up big time. Should you buy in the dip next week . We will be right back. Charles well, ive got to tell you, it was tough for the market and a whole lot of reasons, not one specific thing, listen, the implosion of commodities, oil, we thought it was going to be a great thing but when it goes from 100 for 39, thats a problem. And then theres the notion of the rate hike, probably going to happen next week, i dont think theres any way janet yellen can change her mind but it has nothing to do with the economy and everything to do with politics and if wall street thinks thats true, its going to be damaging. And we can only celebrate mediocrity for so long, so why is it so many angst amongst consumers . Right now as we sit a couple of weeks from christmas, but i want you to think about this and take a look at this. This is history. When the fed begins lift off, when they start to raise rates for the first time in a cycle going back to the 1950s, the stock market has gone up. In fact, one year after the market is usually up, Single Digits sometimes even more but two years out, look at those numbers. Absolutely huge. So the big question now is whats bugging the markets . Should you get out . Or should you be ready to buy weakness . Well discuss it. Back with me Hilary Kramer. Okay, hillary, you are known as the woman with glasses on, i know they were foggy this week, how are you feeling . Are you confident in the market . Im still confident in the market, i know its hard to imagine when we have a week like this charles well, you and i know markets go up and down. Thats right. Charles is there something more unique about this weakness for the week . The price of oil drops as you said, that for the first time is nineteenths a lot of big Institutional Investors that as youve been pointing out that can also mean deflationary pressure and not just great news at the pump but i still think we can see a santa claus rally, yes, retail sales arent great but theyre positive, people still going to restaurants, still Christmas Shopping that were going to experience and china is an external problem to us. Even though they could put pressure on us with their own currency, we should be very positive and theres areas charles so youre saying santa claus rally thats just two weeks away. Lets talk further out right now. Weve had a heck of a run since the march 2009 lows, this year well be lucky if were flat, might be slightly higher, but they have to be is the party over. No, i think 2016 could end up being a very strong year. We may see some volatility in the first quarter, certainly with all these commodities, the junk bond market, the high yield market as weve heard a lot about today really spooked wall street. But you still have some really strong values there in retail, even in the pharmaceutical. Charles so heres the thing. Value hasnt really worked and to a large degree. Lets be honest. This market that youve got about 10 stocks, the facebooks, the amazons, the netflixs of the world, and they have been so powerful that have have masked major cartilage, i didnt take a look at the breath today, but i guarantee every stock that closed at a new high, maybe 50 closed at a new left knee low. Thats a scary, scary thing that many stocks are getting crushed. And thats why investors are upset, theyre not just down 2. 6 on the year, theyre down a lot more. Charles right. And you can go to many companies, mcdonalds, procter gamble, they will all did just fine this week, so there are pockets of strength. Charles thats called the blue chip safe havens. Thats right. Charles early next week necks week ill give you stocks that are probably buys. Thanks a lot, hillary. State Court Appeals is temporarily rather allowing daily Fantasy Sports sites draftkings, fanduel to keep operating in new york because there was a ruling by a lower court that they had to stop. This battle is going to continue maybe all the way through the Supreme Court. Well be right back you both have a perfect driving record. Perfect. No tickets. No accidents. That is until one of you clips a food truck, ruining your perfect record. Yeah. Now you would think your Insurance Company would cut you some slack, right . No. Your insurance rates go through the roof. Your perfect record doesnt get you anything. Anything. Perfect. For drivers with accident forgiveness, Liberty Mutual wont raise your rates due to your first accident. See Car Insurance in a whole new light. Liberty mutual insurance. 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Charles a new york judge ruled that daily Fantasy Sports companies draftkings and fanduel can no longer operate in the state, a huge blow but now an Appeals Court has temporarily suspended that order, resulting in a shortterm stay, that will allow both companies to do business in new york state until at least january 4th but a permanent ban would be a huge blow to the multibillion dollars business and the sports excision industry purchase weve got Hilary Kramer back with us. And i want to ask because this a big debate. Had to had it whole thing was created out of a Supreme Court ruling but the interpretation of a ruling that comes down to the fact that some say its gambling and others saying its skill. And that is the question. Its a multimillion dollars question. Charles multibillion dollars question. Yeah. Multibillion dollars question and is it gambling . This appears to be on the face gamble. And part of the problems draftkings and fanduel ran into is they started doing advertising, you can win all of this money, thousands and thousands of dollars, thats almost wagging your finger at the government saying youre not going to touch us and they started investigating. Charles wait a minute. You think this is van debt aagainst them because theyre arrogant . Arrogance in Something Like this can cause charles why is it so clearly gambling . Because you are its just like going to a casino because you can do sports gambling, youre playing a game based on what others are doing because youre picking players based upon their performance, which is gambling on that player. Charles you have to do a lot of research on this, though, hillary, you have to know how certain quarterbacks play against certain teams, certain defenses, one defense is good against the run, this team, you know, has i mean theres certain nuances to this, though. Thats right. And thats approve that its just luck, and im a libertarian, willet people do what they want, we let them drink, for example, we let them skydive, why not on this . Im with Chris Christy on this one, let them play. Charles well, Chris Christy is trying to protect the new jersey gaming industry which has had a tough go but, again, feels like this there was an interpretation, and i think it comes down to the idea that week to week you can figure this stuff out. But over the course of a season, it becomes more gambling it becomes more luck than skill. Right. Its a game of luck. Its not something that you are doing from scratch and building it yourself. Youre playing upon the luck based upon what someone else does on the field. And i believe that theyre going to start changing rules because this is so much money once they start regulating these gambling, the websites who are doing this type of work. Its all about the money. Charles i want to talk to you about the money part of this, hillary. Disney stock took a real big hit earlier in the year as the cable cutters started getting rid of espn. When you watch espn, it feels like some days fanduel and draftkings have bought all the commercial time. These broadcast companies are going to get crushed if these guys are put out of business. Thats right. And i think that we need to protect we absolutely need to protect the sports industry, and i still think its just absolutely fine. And there are algorithms that are built, charles, around this, really we need to let them play. Charles id like the audience to tweet me and tell me is it luck or is it a skill . All right, guys, thanks a lot. 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Erica, ill start with you. Youve got can it using the executive order, president obama saying despite the fact we know he wants this, probably hell lay out a series of executive orders. You think it will work . I hope it does. I mean i think the American People want there to be not necessarily full on changing the gun laws but just needing them where they already are. The majority support background checks and most people think theres universal background checks but there isnt. 40 of gun sales dont have background checks on them so i think its closing that gap and congress isnt doing anything about it. So at some point dont they have an obligation to make the government work for the people . I think so. Particularly with the connecticut law. I mean if were sawing that youre too dangerous to go on a airplane, should we say youre able to buy a gun . Charles i think what a lot of people are worried about is theres a certain amount of guns period, just like fossil fuel and just like theyre being argued for common sense, which is a term they like to be used and ultimately erase the second amendment. Fran. You know, heres the problem. You know, it does seem like its common sense to use this terrorist watch list but what most people dont understand and including the administration is that the watch list is not managed very effectively; right . So you have people like former now deceased ted kennedy on that list and lots of innocent americans on that list. So if you want to use that santa screening method to prevent people from getting guns, then you have to devote the resources to manage that list. Charles also, guys, northeast university is following the footsteps of other bostonarea schools and evidence the decision to arm the police force with semiautomatic rifles, University Officials saying its better to be safe than sorry. Kiersten, these schools have been sitting ducks, theyve been easy targets and i think a lot of people are coming to the conclusion maybe they shouldnt be. They are, though, soft targets that a lot of terrorists and others want to just go do violence. They do look to those places, so i think this is great, and i know a lot of College Students across the country, especially those in gun free zones feel like this is a good thing. And a lot of people that they talk to in that particular school situation, they said they feel safer. Charles right. They feel safer going to class and school should be a place to learn. They should not be a place where kids have to fear for their lives. So i think this is great, theyre highly trained individuals charles lets use that term again. Common sense. To you, does this make sense . It doesnt. These arent Police Officers, these are University Officers, which are not the same thing, they do not receive the same type of training, theyre not trained. Charles so a loan wolf gunman kicks down the door with a rifle in his hand, you mean to tell me you dont want anyone there to protect the students . Well, this is what i will say is that columbine there was a Police Officer and oregon shooting there was a combat officer who had a concealed weapon on him, and he chose not to engage because sometimes when theres firefight going on adding more guns makes it more dangerous. The Boston Police commissioner come out and said he does not think the university should be introducing more guns onto that campus and thinks the Police Service can handle it. I kind of trust him. But he said it would be five to six minutes that they can respond to a case. In five to six minutes think of how many students can be killed. And those Police Officers on campus do go through a rigorous training. So i dont think theres anyone here saying that theyre not necessarily trained that theyre just random people. One person with a gun. In a team that being get there immediately. Charles you know, and, fran, heres the thing to say at this particular situation it was one person with a gun in their sock and one person there. If a lot of people who were trained with these weapons were there, theres for doubt that the damage would be mitigated that we would save peoples lives. Absolutely. I think a little bit more of doubt. There was a guy in usa today column today who was a trained special forces officer who said the amount of training he has had to deal with a active shooter is just nowhere near in comparison to what a particular University Officer would have or the average Police Officer. Its just not the same level of training. Charles i tell you what, though, i would feel so much better if my kid went to a school where they had a lot of weapons. Lets leave it there, fran, were going to bring you back on the next topic because its one of your favorites. Gitmo. 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Charles so as were dealing with terrorism on the rise in america, a former Gitmo Detainee is a top al qaeda leader. He once served as osama bin ladens aide while he was released from gitmo after striking a deal with u. S. Prosecutors. No surprise. Hes the commander there now, on the battlefield, also orchestrating the Charlie Hebdo attack. Joining me general bob scales, frances and tammy bruce. President obama, right up there with guns, he wants this to be part of his legacy, wants to shut down gitmo and keeps telling us its bad for us and i dont get it. Two of us, charles. I will tell you whats left at gitmo are the worst of the worst. Yes, its a hard job for the military prosecutors but need to get on with the cases and try the cases and make sure these guys dont go back to the battlefield where they cannot only kill people in the region, but plot attacks as you suggest against the United States. The president himself said al qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula other than isis is the greatest direct threat to the United States homeland and the guy is back in the fight. Frankly its shameful. Charles general scales, you know, some liberals arguing hey, this is the same thing, bush started this whole thing. They dont get due process, languish for a long time and doesnt look well. We should bring the hardcore guys to america and close that place down. First of all, charles, gitmo is old news, isis doesnt highlight Guantanamo Bay as a bigger issue. They have bigger fish to fry in france and the United States. And the second thing if you bring them back to the United States and give them their constitutional rights, all of a sudden they become media stars, and if you release them back to the arab world as france suggested, they become rock stars. This could there is no worse time in recent memory to release a guantanamo prisnever. Enough going on in the world that we dont need to aggravate or amplify the narrative of isis by turning these guys into media stars. Charles what do you think, tammy . Its clear were moving into another world war dynamic, were going to do something with isis. I think there is clearly a lot of politics with this. I believe president obama wants to clear this out so we can give that back to cuba. Charles really . I think that will be is that part of his social justice agenda, like rerighting the wrongs america has done. Not only to its own citizens but the world. I think he sees america as the problem. Always has, still does. And gitmo is a sign of that. He will cripple a little what was left to the next president but mission it seems constantly is to bring america down several pegs, this approach will do it including the release of the taliban generals very active in afghanistan, those men are certainly not going to become farmers or clerks. Charles quick, fran, reports out today that isis may have Passport Printing machine or Something Like that. What do you make of that . Shouldnt be surprising when they took raqaa and aleppo and government centers. I hope this is not new news to the department of Homeland Security and the state department. Once they seize the machines they can generate what look like legitimate travel documents without biometrics, hopefully this fuels more biometrics than passports. Good evening, everybody. Im lou dobbs. The republican establishment appears ready to risk turning the gop president ial primary contest wrup side down and upset millions and millions of Republican Voters while the Holy Alliance attacks Donald Trumps candidacy and his campaign. In doing so will frustrate the american public. Least those that support trump for president. The gop elites have simply lost their minds if the Washington Post reporting is accurate. 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