eight we made from new york to florida? >> yes, sorry. that's what i meant to say. new york to florida. it's not because they want to be -- >> gillian: is not just because of the palm trees? that's what i want to move to florida. [laughs] james, we've got to leave it there, but thanks for being with us. >> thanks, gillian. >> mike: meanwhile, the christmas travel nightmare at america's airports stretching into a fourth day of chaos with another 800 domestic flights canceled so far. airlines blame the mess on staff shortages due to the omicron variant, the vaccine mandates, and heavy winter weather, especially in the pacific northwest. so lots of travel stress. bring your mask, don't touch anything, hope the flight crew made it, and hope that your plane is there and not snowed in somewhere else. >> gillian: fortunately for you and i, mike, we get to work all holiday long, so we get to sit here and talk about how terrible it is out there, but we don't have to actually confront it. >> mike: in our comfy