on that person. but right now tragedy at the pentagon, jen psaki confirms from the white house podium that the police officer was killed, waiting for press secretary to walk out to the podium in the next few moments, next of kin being notified as you mention the pentagon was on lockdown for over two hours. the defense secretary and the chairman joint chief of staff was not at the pentagon during the incident, at the white house meeting with the president as they do every tuesday morning, but a lot of stuff to figure out here at the pentagon, but the pentagon police officer has been killed and next of kin has been identified. we don't have his identity or her identity yet and the suspect remains at large. not a description of the suspect, sandra. >> sandra: live at the pentagon for us. thank you. john, that's happened earlier today, they went into lockdown at the pentagon and i believe it was noted when a massive