full support behind biden and refusing to hold debates. she is making her second run for the oval office as it goes against the notion of democracy. here is that. >> i don't think it's good for democracy. i think it is very important that the democratic electorate get a chance to weigh in. i look at the campaign season as a long job interview process and the voters should have a chance to interview all of the candidates for the job. and that does include the president. what's outrageous how overt they are about absolutely admitting they are doing what they can in the primary season to support the president. >> rich: she stands at ten percent support in the fox news polls and robert f. kennedy junior at 17%. president biden at 64%. when you look at that landscape, matt, should the president be debating and engaging in the primary contest, or is he smart