as a hail mary under any circumstance, this is like a hail mary to stations over. >> he's late, but this will be biden's first public appearance since his name was first mentioned at that first public impeachment hearing, but 2300 miles away from the longworth house office building here in los angeles at the tray technical school, he's still got a big crowd. bret. >> bret: peter doocy live in los angeles, thanks. we are between hearings tonight in a public impeachment inquiry against president trump. there is no information about a phone call the day after the one between president trump and his ukrainian counterpart. that ignited the process. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel begins our impeachment coverage tonight from capitol hill. good evening, mike. >> good evening, the associated press is reporting a second embassy staffer in ukraine overheard a cell phone conversation between president trump and ambassador to the e.u., gordon sondland, discussing any to pursue "investigations."