People in palm beach knew him. He was a fixture in palm beach. I had a falling out with him a long time ago. I dont think ive spoken to him for 15 years. I wasnt a fan. I was not a long time ago. I would say maybe 15 years. I was not a fan of his. That i can tell you. Harris i do apologize, that obviously was not the right to clip from the president. He was talking about Jeffrey Epstein. We were expecting something about the labor secretary acosta. So here is how we will recover. We will go to our john roberts, who will have it all for us outside the white house. John . Heres how you recover, harris. Its live tv and sometimes things happen harris [laughs] the president made news on two fronts there. Alex acosta, his labor secretary, and Jeffrey Epstein paid the two things are indelibly connected, because when he was the u. S. Attorney for the southern distrt of florida back in 2008, alex acosta cut a plea deal with Jeffrey Epstein that kept him away from federal charges but did put him in jail on state charges for 15 months, related to. But avoided bigger federal charges on potential sex trafficking that could have put him away for life, which is what prosecutors in new york are going to seek now. So now there has been a cascade of calls for acosta to step down as the secretary of labor. I know youve got a correspondent coming up from the hill to talk about that. Lets deal with for the president has said about this. You saw what he said about epstein. Back in 2002, when he was talking about epstein to new York Magazine in a profile, the president said that epstein was a terrific guy and like me, the president , he likes beautiful women, some of them on the younger side. We dont know if back then President Trump knew just how much on the underside. But now the president is stepping forward to at least defend in the near term is labor secretary. Though we dont know how long that is going to last. Listen to with the president said about acosta. I feel very badly for secretary acosta because i know him as somebody who works so hard and has done such a good job. I feel very badly about that whole situation. But we will be looking at that and looking at it very closely. That is the key part of that phrase. Clearly the president is standing by his labor secretary for the moment, but he says, we are going to look at all of this very closely. In the past, on several occasions when the president has looked at something very closely regarding one of his cabinet secretaries, that cabinet secretary ends up not staying very long with the administration. A clear example of that would be scott pruitt. Not to say that what acosta did and what pruitt was doing were similar things, but certainly there was a cloud of controversy over secretary acosta now. And secretary acosta himself commenting on all of this, taking to twitter to say, the crimes committed by epstein are horrific and i am pleased that new york prosecutors are moving forward with a case based on new evidence. Also going to say, with the evidence available more than a decade ago expending his decision back in miami prosecutors insisted that epstein go to jail, register as a sex offender, and put the world on notice that he was a sexual predator. Not that new evidence and additional testimony is available, the new york prosecution offers an important opportunity to more fully bring them to justice. So secretary acosta is saying there that he did not the full body of evidence back in 2008 when he cut that deal with epstein, but democrats are suggesting that epstein got a sweetheart deal from federal prosecutors because of his wealth and has power and his connections, particularly in the florida area. You saw President Trump say, i knew him like everybody else in palm beach did. Epstein had a 59 million place in new york city and a very big house not too far from maralago, where he used to hang out a lot. So, we will see where this case goes, but it certainly created a lot of intrigue here in washington, d. C. , harris. Harris i can imagine. And f Nancy Pelosis daughter, christine pelosi, put out that this could hit some of their faveses and the Democratic Party. It wasnt already like all things in d. C. , political, now it is in every way. Was not forget that epstein was a very good friend of bill clintons, as well. And bill clinton flew on his jet at least four times. A couple of those times on major overseas exclusions for the Clinton Foundation so theres a lot of political connections. Harris think you always come qaddafi. I want to get to Doug Mckelway come alive on capitol hill with direction from lawmakers. Speaking of which. So what are democrats saying . More and more democrats are now calling for the secretary of labor alex acosta to step down. Chief among them today is Senate Minority leader chuck schumer, who took the well of the senate to express these sentiments. Secretary of labor alex acosta cut epstein a sweetheart deal while acosta was a u. S. Attorney in florida in 2008. While a federal prosecutor, acosta signed a nonprosecution agreement that allowed epstein and his coconspirators to remain free and easy justice despite overwhelming evidence. Shimmered joins speaker nancy pelosi, who last night, like slat night, tweeted this about acosta. Secretary acosta must step down. As u. S. Attorney he engaged in an unconscionable agreement with Jeffrey Epstein, prevented victims from seeking justice. This was known by potus, she says, when he appointed him to the cabinet. Republican senator ted cruz among a handful of republicans to join democratic ranks calling for acostas resignation, but most republicans are holding firm against that. Senator Lamar Alexander told reporters yesterday that acostas confirmation in 2017, the committee, and i could hear from senator alexander, looked into this thoroughly. We found that the plea agreement when he was u. S. Attorney was approved by the bush Justice Department. It was defended by the Obama Justice department, and then by the trump Justice Department. Heres what acosta himself said during his confirmation hearing about the epstein case. At the end of the day, based on the evidence, professionals within a Prosecutors Office decided that a plea that guarantees someone goes to jail, that guarantees that someone register generally, and that guarantees other outcomes, is a good thing. And democrats note that under the plea deal that acosta agreed to, epstein did not face any federal charges. He served only 13 months of partial confinement. We say partial because he was allowed to spend 12 hours of each and every day at his office and then return to the jail cell. Moreover, none of the 40 teenage girls that epstein was alleged to have traffic, know their attorneys, was consulted about that plea deal. He argues that clinical stakes cannot be higher, as he talked about. He had epstein cultivated many relationships in the upper echelons of both parties. What epstein has to say if he continues to plead not guilty about those relationships is very, very key. The world is watching what hes going to say. Harris its definitely true. Im looking now. Christine pelosi, a Democratic National committee official, daughter of Speaker Pelosi. This weekend she said, quite likely that some of our faves are implicated in the sex trafficking case against politicallyconnected financier Jeffrey Epstein. Very interesting. Doug mckelway, thank you very much. I want to bring in james trusty, former Justice Department prosecutor and now a whopper and a pretty good to see, james. Hey, harris. Harris in your former job you looked into some of this. What would you be looking at and what would you question . Theres a lot to question and i think everybody else has a piece of the puzzle. Where they end up press getting set of federal, thats not unheard of. To get shuffled on to state court for resolution. Even ceiling that matters not crazy, because the person is not admitting guilt in federal court, so they should necessarily have to have all their dirty laundry out there for the world. Was unusual was the decision not to include the victims. There is a federal crime victim bill of rights that wasnt with the ignored, none of these victims were contacted. Thats the part the kind of reasons the biggest stink to me, which is, whether the Attorneys Office make a decision not to include people statutorily eligible to know whats going on with their case . Harris very interesting. I know that a couple times, dont want to bore the audience that word. But as we go deeper so much as unexpected. Lets talk about that wide brush. The result that his News Conference yesterday, the fbi number looking for more victims. Youve got people on the hill including House SpeakerNancy Pelosis daughter, christine, saying some of her own political favorites in the Democratic Party could be on a list. Whats really kind of interesting, he reminds me of the old mayflower madam case that happened years ago where a bunch of highprofile men were very nervous about a black book and whether their names would be out there. Obviously, bill clinton has already gotten someone in front of this issue by issuing a statement yesterday, but thats a big concern a lot of people have. See when he just simply said he didnt know about it. Go right. But it wasnt out of the blue that he came out with a comment about Jeffrey Epstein. He knew about the indictment and wanted to make sure he had his gloss on things. Whats interesting is epstein could be like another michael cohen. He could have recordings, pictures, documents. So a lot of people right now are sweating his decision as to whether he is going to try and cooperate and lower the damage or whether hes got information that is more credible than just his own words. Harris when you are that democrats in particular focused on thenu. S. Attorney and no labor secretary acosta, what do you say . Theres a political dynamic that is kind of obvious, and thats up to them if they want to try and knew his hide to the board. But the reality is that the plea itself should be driven not by who Jeffrey Epsteins book by the sufficiency of the evidence. If you had professional prosecutors that told him this is not a great case but they could come up with a guaranteed sentence in state court, it might not be crazy or unusual or corrupt or anything like that. Im sure it would get a good scrub. Again, i think the issue is basically the exclusion of the victims. Thats what smells, thats what creates this issue of why they were making decisions they made. Harris james trusty, formerly of the doj. Good timing to have you on as the news was breaking after the president has spoken. Thank you very much. Democrats lodging some serious allegations against the president. Its all about, should you ask people if they are here illegally . 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Thank you, harris, and good afternoon. The former special counsel remains a reluctant witness, eight days out from his congressional testimony. We are told a number of options are under consideration. Traveling in south carolina, the attorney general william barr emphasized that mueller said in his only Public Statement about the russia investigation that if he was compelled to testify he would not go beyond the four corners of his report. I was disappointed to see them subpoenaed, because i dont think that serves any purpose dragging bob mueller if he is going to stick to the report. The only reason it seems to me for doing that is to create some kind of public spectacle. If he decides he doesnt want to be subject to that, the department of justice would certainly back him. Harris, Lease Development cannot be seen in a vacuum. The me of the testimony is scheduled for next wednesday with democrats signaling they want mueller to explain why he could not exonerate the president , or could exonerate the president on obstruction of justice charges. And they want mueller to explain how early he knew that there was no evidence of a conspiracy between the Trump Campaign and russia. Meantime, there are new developments with reuters, first to report that the former british spy Christopher Steele has not been interviewed by the Inspector GeneralMichael E Horowitz as part of his investigation. Fox news was first to report on friday that a key witness outside the fbi and the doj had come forward to the Inspector General and that now appears to be Christopher SteelChristopher Steele. Our contact report that Christopher Steele was very concerned he would get thrown under the bus into alleged surveillance abuse during the 2016 campaign. I think its worth nosing dont like noting that if you look at the Mueller Report there are no references to the dossier. They referred to as reporting is just that, reporting, or reports. That has the effect of minimizing the fact that it was Opposition Research that was paid for by the democrats, harris. Harris thats a fascinating point youre making there. Changing the wording so people would have a different reaction to whats actually a dossier. It sounds very journalistic when you read it, but it was not that. Harris Catherine Herridge, thank you very much. A growing sense of sure done. Attorney general william barr says he sees a legal way to ask the question about u. S. Citizenship on the 2020 census. This, after the u. S. Supreme court blocked the move last week. But now the attorney general says he expects the doj to finalize its new legal strategy to move forward in the next few days. My next guest has introduced a bill that would had a Citizenship Question to the census. Tell me about the progress of this. Will it happen . I think its very important, this question, as part of the senses. Its absurd as a sovereign nation we cannot ask the question, are you a citizen or not, on the census. This goes back to the late 1800s. This was on the census for over 60 years. So i think its important as a sovereign nation. We know how many u. S. Citizens live in this country. Harris as you look at the court coming back, the judge said he got to make a more compelling argument if you come take another bite at the apple. This piece of legislation allow the Trump Administration to do that . What my legislation does is give the administration statutory support. A law. If you look at the ruling the Supreme Court made recently, it did not say what the president is asking is unconstitutional. It just said to tighten up the argument. Thats what attorney general barr is doing at this moment, getting it quickly submitted to the Census Bureau and the court. For more favorable ruling. Harris senator, when we talked on the program previously, one of things that always stuck out to me is you get relationship across the aisle. You dont have to when youre in the majority the way you are on most of the things you deal with, unless you need 60 votes. What is the conversation on the other side of the aisle . Which he sits democrats were against this . I heard the clip from Speaker Pelosi before you hit the top of the hour there. She said that its racist. Thats absolutely false. Remember, they ask ethnicity today. They ask for race on the current census. Furthermore in fact, i brought along my passport, harris you are asking for a United States citizen or not to get a passport. Nobody calls that racist. So Speaker Pelosi is politicizing this. She is really vilifying a very common sense question that should be on the census, and that is, are you a United States citizen cannot harris i want to play click here. Its a little bit of that. Also, its councilor Kellyanne Conway backtoback. Watch. This is about keeping you know that hat . Make America White again. They want to make sure that people, certain people, are counted. Its really disgraceful. I saw her very incoherent, scarily incoherent response. That was very incoherent response about sex hats. It was weird. Harris you reaction to all of it . The only thing racist was Speaker Pelosis comment. Its very we know how many are in this country. We ask for a passport say. In fact, three and a half million of the forms that get sent out for the census in 2020 will have the Citizenship Question on it. Every one of the questions will have everyone of the census questions will have the ethnicity question on it. Its what we do here as a nation, to understand the demographics of our country. Harris its my understanding, someone who has checked some boxes along the way , like for every single ball ive ever had, this is about nationality. A whole host of races. Im not really sure why she goes there anyway. But heres the question for you, just in terms of broadening out the language on the census. Might you do Something Like, are you in this country . Or however you ask it. Parenthetically say, if you are here illegally, no movement against you if you answer the question . Is there any protection from people taking it . Heres the bottom line for me. I support what President Trump is trying to do. This administration whats up with the question on the census survey. This is to help President Trump, attorney general barr, wilbur ross, the administration, the term team, to get this question on the census form. I doing all i can to help the president. As a sovereign nation we should be able to ask the question, are you a u. S. Citizen or not . On the census. Harris senator daines, a pleasure to have you on the program. We will follow your legislation. Thank you. 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He says the United States will no longer deal with the British Ambassador, close to the kind of language that usually leads to a diplomat going home. The president also refused to have dinner with him at the british embassy, confirmed the ambassador did not attend a dinner the other evening at the Treasury Department for the emir of qatar. He has the full support of theresa may on the british government. Secretary of state mike pompeo and they have said nothing public about this. Leaked are still a diplomatic medications have burned officials around the world. Here the state department, too pretty 2014, all you of thenassistant secretary of state victoria nguyens conversation of the american leach. The u. S. Blamed the russians for that. She despaired to the European Union and had to apologize. Some american Officials Say the situation is a majorlevel issue, the consultations between the governments continue. The two governments work on a host of issues and earlier today the state department confirmed that a Top State Department official is still traveling to london. They are going to discuss countercriminal narcotics, synthetic drugs, counter entrance transnational crime, things that nature. Harris thank you very much. I want to bring in our power panel now. Political correspondent, for the washington examiner, david drucker. And judy miller, adjunct fellow at the Manhattan Institute for policy research and a fox news contributor. A regular on the program. Great to see both. First, before he moves on to a bigger topic for today, i want to talk about this back and forth between the president of the United States and the guy who got caught saying some pretty mean stuff. Judy . Well, harris, if youve been watching fox news or reading the new york times, the wall street journal, the Washington Post , what km darroch said, the investor, should come as no surprise to anyone. He described the Trump Administration though not the president as inept, clumsy, nothing that should surprise anybody. Of course, full of leaks. Which is designed with the british are now coping with. I think the special relationship will somehow figure out a way to survive. Harris and still be special . Yes, it will still be special. As the president said, he had a great state visit and he loves the queen. Harris david, im a little confused. Judy is right, stuff is leaking like a sieve. It does all over the place out of governments come apparently. Even our own. But this idea that its time for any of this, theyve got to get brexit, dude. They have been issued without in any event. The larger part of the story isnt so much what ambassador told his government and a memo that was supposed to be confidential and leaked. What he told them in confidential memos about the governments they are serving in. I think the larger issues of the president went and hit the outgoing Prime Minister may, because she didnt handle brexit the way he thought she should. When you have a high level spat between the president and the Prime Minister, even an outgoing one, that would be a larger concern, a larger story, then an ambassador giving what he thought was private information that was leaked. Its just highly doubtful that every private communique ever sent by every ambassador, either the United States ambassador or the British Ambassador, only had glowing things to say. Harris thats a big, good point. The president went public bashing per mr. Mae because he she didnt do what he thought she should. If something will be lasting for this whole thing, it would be something act that paid off in countries in europe do not take kindly to american president s dictating terms to them. Even if the terms they are dictating are correct. Harris while. All right, we will move on. Alex acosta, the president seemed to leave the door open for what could happen next with the labor secretary after all of the fallout from the deal he oversaw. With Jeffrey Epstein, a guy with a lot of influence. A guy with a lot of money, a guy with a lot of bipartisan connections. Judy . Whether you are buying your way into college or buying your way out of jail, the notion that there are two sets of laws in this country and punishments, one for the ordinary people and one for the rich and wellconnected, is something that really does resonate in politics. And i think about the fact the president was so cautious and said we are looking into it, that we didnt know epstein, tes a great deal but i want comfortably must be with whatever happened during that sentencing. Suppression of witness testimony what appears to be sweetheart deal is very troubling on its surface. Thats why i dont think you see a lot of republicans rallying around mr. Acosta. Harris as you watch the president , he chose his words carefully, particularly toward the end. Your thoughts . I think everybody that has been in politics for a long time, everybody who has been in new york society for a long time, might be looking over their shoulder and wondering how this might come back to hurt them. A lot of people are treading lightly. Harris im going to cook nancy pelosi now, because some of our faves, in the Democratic Party, could be aligned with or somehow glued to this situation. Correct. The president in 2002 said he thought epstein is a great guy. People say and do all sort of things. They associate with people at different times without knowing there might be anything wrong with it. Doing something there might be untoward but not about it is. Paired with Something Like thiss reached a point that things that used to be brushed under the rug are no longer brush of the rug and okay, then everybody starts looking over the shoulder. Harris are either view surprise that l gets dragged into this . Im thinking of the Wetoo Movement just real quick, judy . I dont think we should be a surprise given that movement. What was unacceptable today, what is outrageous today, was somehow part of what happened. How business was done. Ten or 15 years ago. Its not true anymore. The entire mood has changed. Republicans know it. Democrats know what, no Jeffrey Epstein is going to new it. Harris david, judy, thank you. Thank you. Think it. Harris is a driven, colorful legend in politics , some say. Remembering ross perot. His legacy and impact on American Business and american politics. A live report from dallas, texas, next. Ar va home loan for veterans. It lets you borrow up to 100 percent of your homes value. Not just 80 percent like other loans. And that can mean a lot more money for you and your family. With our military service, veterans like us have earned a valuable va benefit. The right to apply for a va home loan. 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His 1992 independent run for the white house drew 19 of the vote, among the highest total ever for a third party candidate. Casey stegall is live in dallas, texas, now, where he is missed. Casey . Harris, mr. Perot died here at his home in dallas this morning, surrounded by family and friends. This was the first time we learned that he had been battling leukemia for the last five months or so. Again, all of this according to his family, and what a big life he led. Of course, running for president twice on the independent ticket. In 1992, he challenged george h. W. Bush, and then arkansas governor bill clinton. Perot ended up taking nearly 20 of that vote, unheard of. Political analysts later said that his presence in the race tilted the results in clintons favor. That has been contested through history. Then in 96 he once again challenged thenincumbent president bill clinton and his opponent that year, senator bob dole. He was mostly mostly known for discussing the countrys deficit and talking about the dangers oa government living beyond its means. This morning his family releasing a statement, and it reads in part, in business and in life, ross was a man of integrity and action, a true American Patriot and a man of revision, principal, and deep compassion. He touched the lives of countless people through his unwavering support of the military and veterans, and through his charitable endeavors. Former president george w. Bush saying this from kennebunkport, maine, today. He loved his dear wife, children, and grandchildren. Laura and i send our heartfelt condolences to the entire. Perot family as they celebrate a full life. The 89yearold billionaire also devoted much of his life to philanthropy, organizations that impacted his life like the boy scouts, no word yet on Memorial Services or Funeral Services for ross perot. Harris . Sp1 casey, thank you very much. To have a first row seat in history is what my friend had. Howard kurtz, host of media buzz, covered ross perots 1992 96 president ial campaigns. In fact, my team and i were perusing in 92 oped covering ross perot. The headlines all say he was eccentric. He was a little bit crazy. However, he was like a oneman tea party at the time. He announced on larry king which something was not done in those days. He was leading the polls against president bush 41 and bill clinton. And people forget he dropped out of the race with nutty conspiracy talk about the republicans disrupting his daughters wedding. Dropped back into the recent time for the debates, ended up with a strong showing but not winning. Harris look at the giant wall there. The Perot Campaign causes jitters among bush and clinton advisors. He wrote that in october 92. What was it like for ross perot to come in and be a disruptor . He capitalized on the satisfaction with both parties. He was a plainspoken texas guy who was getting into the hood and help fix the economy. To do his will the next time around. Heres what ross perot accomplished. All of his eccentric cities. He made both parties take the budget deficit seriously, which was quite high at the time. Everybody was talking about what they were going to do to fix the fact that america was spending we beyond its means. Harris texarkana, texas. My mom was born a few years near ross perot. I knew about him as a businessman sem kid, because he hired a lot of people. He didnt leave texas. People running all over the country. That was not his style. Why did he get 90 as an independent . By going from Television Studio to Television Studio and delivering the same message in a folksy way. Everybody wanted to book him. He was this hot phenom, new face. Harris could you do that today . You could come but you couldnt win. He didnt have to run in the primary because he does dropped into the race in the spring of 92. He was such a force that when he opposed nafta, it was the famous debate between them, which is the tv spectacle of its time. Harris im writing things that sound familiar. His intense focus on military and military veterans. He was bringing things into scope that we are talking about currently with this administration. Absolutely. He was a business success. He didnt really have a lot of political skills, but he had that sort of plain knife and spoken charm. So the pundits didnt necessarily take them seriously but a lot of people did. It does remind you of somebody else on the political stage. Harris if you had to put ross perot in that category of helping third party, he did so well. Why dont we have one now . Because harris a viable one, i should say. For all of his success and he did run on the Reform Party Ticket in 1996 he showed it was difficult to get any serious traction against major party. He did well but he didnt win a single state and had a lot of money to spend. 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And he wrote about epsteins relationship with president clinton and trump. Hear his story on the Daily Briefing. A line drive come off the top of the mall. There it is harris a major league slugger, giving back to charities that help wounded veterans and entered first responders. New york mets rookie, first baseman pete alonso, won last nights home run derby in cleveland. He hit 57 home runs, earning him the 1 million price. He pledged to donate a portion of his winnings to the Wounded Warrior project, and the tunnels the terrace foundation. Awesome a Southport High School principal is facing fierce backlash after telling a parent that as a Public Servant he could not describe the holocaust as a factual event. Because of the parents may not share that belief. That principle has since apologized and the School District has reassigned him to new position. But some are calling on the district to go further than that and actually fire him. Joining me now, rabbi abraham cooper, associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal center. Great to see you, rabbi. What do you think of the situation . Did the district go far enough . Well, i dont know anything about this gentleman. I dont know if hes a holocaust denier or just someone who got lost at the corner of intersectionality and dumb. But having someone who is in charge of young people, preparing them to go out in life and not even understanding the fundamentals of history, and more we talk about the holocaust, its not just a matter of the facts of the worst crime in human history. Its what we teach each day at the museum of tolerance here in los angeles. Its for young people to understand there is good and theres evil. And every person has to make a choice, about where she and he will make those decisions. So when you hear someone who is in charge of helping to nurture young people just not get it at all, one thing is for sure maybe you dont fire him, but dont let him be anywhere near a curriculum choice or near the children, because hes unequipped to prepare kids for the future. Harris you know, he did apologize. In this society we are always saying theyve got to apologize. Does that make a difference in this instance, to you . They have reassigned him. Yeah, i mean, the apology games, thats really i would have to know more about the individual. Im not ready to call them a denier. But hes not an educator. In the world we live in today, im worried about this as well beyond just the holocaust. Its about fundamental values, teaching kids the difference between right and wrong, and understanding that that approach erase his memory. History is not a multiplechoice test where you get to choose which is the correct answer. Its unfortunately, some members are involved in congress. We have to nurture and protect our historic memories, or we prepare our children with a clean slate, including an immoral slate. Hes not up for the job. I dont know if he should be fired or not but he should be know any of those kids. Harris rabbi cooper, this is a bigger issue. You are pointing to a lot of different areas. The Palm Beach CountySchool District said he made a grave error in judgment in the verbiage he wrote in an email. In addition to being offensive, the principal statement is not supported by either the School District, administration, or a school board. Her last quick thought . We are not here to debate the holocaust. The only people who go around denying the holocaust are the iranian regime, extremists in the islamist world that have had an impact, unfortunately, on millions of young people. But when you have a principal right here in the United States, the public domain, who doesnt know the basics of what history is about, whats next . You get multiplechoice about the American Revolution or the kennedy assassination . Theres no end. Harris rabbi cooper, thank you very much for being with me on this topic. Thank you, harris. Harris ill be right back. [ paper rustling ] exactly, nothing. Theyre completely different people, thats why they need customized Car Insurance from liberty mutual. Theyll only pay for what they need [ gargling ] [ coins hitting the desk ] yes, and they could save a ton. Youve done it again, limu. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Harris great to have you along for this hour of outnumbered overtime. Im harris. The Daily Briefing starts now. Dana fox news alert. President trump addressing his relationship with jeffery epstein. Hello. Im dana perino. This is the Daily Briefing. Labor secretary alex acosta defending the plea deal that he negotiated as an attorney. President trump putting daylight between himself and epstein. 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