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On the move. U. S. Navy warships are heading closer to israel. Deadly storm now is crow ating a soggy mess in the Pacific Northwest. Even by seattle standards, a lot of rain. Already 7 and still counting. Cops now say the deadly explosion that blew up several homes in indianapolis may have been intentional. Homicide investigation now is under way. Two people were killed. Seven others injured. There is a search for truth and a search for justice. Huge fire caused explosions and panic in north houston. Looked like the world was on fire over here. Walmart workers plan to strike at 1,000 stores on black friday. Its not fair how they treat us. Touchdown the bears cleaned out by the niners. All that listen to me. It doesnt have to be like that. When i ask you a question and you dont have an answer its best to say i dont know. Hostess wont go out of business just yet. Private mediation. Hostess makes twinkies hohos and ding dongs. My mom, bless her heart, would pack in the lunch box container twinkies. I remember that vividly. I also remember vividly my open heart surgery several years later. Captioning funded by cbs welcome to cbs this morning. Im charlie rose in new york. Norah odonnell is in washington. The United States is stepping in to try to prevent a wider war between israel and hamas. Thats right. Secretary of state Hillary Clinton is now on her way to the middle east this morning to meet with leaders from both sides. Bill plante is in cambodia the last stop in president obamas asian tour, where the white housemaid that surprise announcement just this morning. Reporter good morning. The president has spent much of his time on this trip on the phone with mideast leaders, looking for a way to end the rocket fire and to avoid an Israeli Ground offensive. Now, after Early Morning calls today to the leaders of israel and egypt, he has deepened u. S. Involvement, sending secretary of state clinton to the region. The goal throughout that trip is for everybody to use their influence and their voices to encourage a peaceful outcome. Our bottom line is that peace has to include an end of rocket fire that threatens israel. Reporter clinton will first go to israel to meet with Prime Minister netanyahu and then to pals esestine but will not meet with hamas. Very aware of the increasing pressure from congress to cut the more than 1 billion in military aid which the u. S. Gives to egypt if they dont cooperate. Clintons message, an escalation of the violence will hurt everyone israeli and palestinians. Calm is in everyones best interest. For sbscbs this morning, bill plante in phnom penh. The Obama Administration is warning against making any ground attacks. Air attacks continue at this hour. Allan pizzey is in tel aviv. Good morning. Reporter good morning. There are sign that is both sides of the conflict are looking for a way out. Neither seems willing to make the first concessions on the ground. The iz ralsraelis carried out more than 100 air strikes in gaza overnight and the death toll has now topped 100. More than half the victims have been civilians. Among them 27 children. This distraught man lost his wife and four children when his house was hit. Some targeting mistakes may have been made to point out they are retaliating for indiscriminate rocket fire. Barrage tapered off significantly. Some managed to slam into the town of beer sheva. Parked vehicles were destroyed but there were no casualties. Israeli troops paused along the border went about the vigil ongoing diplomacy is on the side of restraint. A deal would have to allow both sides to claim some sort of victory. From an israeli point of view that means, first and foremost an end to rocket attacks. Hamas wants an end to targeted killing of its leaders. Residents of towns which have been hit from rockets of gaza on an almost daily basis translator for all to remain quiet. If they return after three months again, then what truce can we have . Reporter israelis are especially concerned that the main broker for any peace deal will be egypt, first arab country to sign a peace treaty with the jewish state now has alliance with hamas. Clarissa ward is following the peace talks. Any progress to report . Reporter good morning, norah and charlie. Cbs news has spoken to those very close to the hamas delegation here in cairo. They told us they are nearing an agreement, that that agreement might actually take place within the next few hours. He said that the cease fire will be implemented in two parts but he didnt get any details to exactly what the cease fire will look like and as to which of hamas demands, if any, that the israelis will agree to. Thats very significant. I know clarissa you had a chance to question the leader of hamas yesterday. Lets play that tape. Cbs news in america, please. Does hamas want peace with israel . Reporter god willing the American People will wake up he said and realize its better to stand with 350 million americans than continue to support israel. Quite an answer clarissa. I have to ask you, what was it like being a female american journalist in that room and what about his response . Reporter well it was certainly intimidating norah. I was the only american in the room and, as you can see, had to shout to be heard. His aides pointed at me and said you are a hunter. So i would take that as a compliment, but make no mistake, it is not the palestinians responsibility, he said, to instigate peace but israel as the aggressor to take the first step. Great original reporting. Clarissa ward thank you very much. When the president returns to washington, he will have to focus on the economy and the looming fiscal cliff. Wall street is already focused on those talks. Ce ceo of goldman sachs, Lloyd Blankfein said that a budget deal would be a challenge to average americans. Were going to have to undoubtedly do something to lower peoples expectations, the entitlements and what people think they are going to get, because theyre not going to get it. Social Security Medicare medicaid . You could go back and look at the history of these things. Social security wasnt devised to be a system that supported you for a 30year retirement after a 25year career. There will be things that the retirement age has to be changed, maybe some of the inflation adjustments have to be revised but in general entitlements have to be slowed down and contained. Because we cant afford them Going Forward . Because we cant afford them. With us now, National Journal White House Correspondent major garrett. Good morning. Congratulations as well. Welcome to cbs. Thank you. Let me ask you, theres some indication of some progress on this. What progress have they made . First of all, they are talking and exploring ideas. Right now this week on capitol hill its sort of like you would prepare for thanksgiving meal. Staff on the finance Committee Budget committee on the house ways and means are preparing the recipe, the numbers behind them things you can tax, how they add up in various different ways to put together a deal. The data will all be the same for everyone to look at once the lawmakers, Decision Makers reengage after the thanksgiving holiday. Everyone is in the kitchen, looking at their recipes but we have to wait for the cooks to see what the meal will look like. Thats an interesting metaphor, because a lot of people can get recipes but a lot of people cant cook very well. What ends up in this final meal if you will in the fiscal cliff . How are they going to do . . I hear they will do it in two stages. The middle class tax cuts under the bush code passed in 2001. No tax increase there. Thats the politically popular thing to do. Then you take that and maybe throw in a debt ceiling there. You have the other issues. Defense spending cuts domestic discretionary cuts tax reform entitlement reforms and put that off until later next year. The idea of having a bridge over the cliff to something thats a bigger resolution. Thats one way of doing it. I will tell you this youll never get more attentiveness, more public hisysteria than in december and never get a time where there will be more ability than cut a deal and have everyone celebrate the fact that we didnt have to go over the cliff. If youre a politician who wants to generate a sense of unease and capitalize on it now is the time to cut the deal. One other thing is every other Interest Group in this town, if you wait six months, will have six months to pick that deal apart. Yep. If you do a big deal now, you can do it now before they can mobilize against you. Thats another political incentive to act now and bigger now than later. Major, are there different mindsets today than there were in previous times that they had a debt ceiling negotiation, more inclined to want to make concession, more inclined to want to reach out to the other side and reach out to business and labor leaders . Look, business has been contacting the president. Rahm emanual, mayor of chicago, former chief of staff, has been very helpful. Deal with the white house on this to improve those sort of torn relationships from the first term. Labor and progressives are ten telling the president you dont have to go down the lloyd blankfe. Ns entitlements. You can do this another way. However, the president s polling for a moderate Democrat Group came out with polling numbers this morning that the majority of the president s coalition is open to the concept, at least theoretically, of entitlement reforms, make them less generous. That polling data from his own pollster saying there might be a path there. What its going to require is what its always required people willing to take tough votes, look at each other and trust each other. Maybe there will be a spirit of giving on both sides this holiday season. Well see. Major garrett, thank you so much. Charlie . Who edited the talking points given to the United Nations ambassador susan rice before she spoke about the attack that killed the ambassador to libya . Margaret brennan has the details in washington. Good morning. Reporter good morning to you, charlie. Specific references of al qaeda and terrorism were cut by the director of National Intelligence the agreement of the cia and the fbi. The white house and state department did not make those changes. Rice used the talking points in tv appearances shortly after the attack and republicans accused her of making misleading statement business referring to the assault as a spontaneous demonstration by extremists, suggesting she did it for political reasons. The intelligence source says that the links to al qaeda were deemed too tenuous to make public. However, cia director David Petraeus told congress he had agreed to release that information in early draft. It was passed along to dni. Then the fbi, which made more. Head of dni is james clapford who did reopen the case but who suggested the final edit which were then signed off on again, by all intelligence agencies is not known. Charlie . New hope for some of americas most beloved snacks. Rebecca jarvis is here with that story. So the story is not over . Its not over. If you ran out and bought a 30 box of twinkies hopefully you didnt throw way the reseat. Hostess has been trying to liquidate. They start this had process in court yesterday. But then the judge came out and said why dont you try one last ditch effort to make a deal with the bakers union . This is the union that has been on strike since november 9th. The judge came out and said lets go behind closed doors and see if we can work something out so that hostess can continue to exist as the company it is today. What might that something look like . It will very likely if they come to any kind of concession they will very likely look similar to what was on the table leading into this. The bakers union was asked to take an 8 pay cut. In order to move forward as a company, hostess management is saying the only way that we can continue to exist and be financially viable is if your union takes some kind of cut in pay. So they more than likely will have to do something along those lines. The company has now said look, weve lost million of business for every day youve been on strike. We may not be able to continue to exist as the company we were and may have to shut some other plants. What do you say to the cynics that this company intended this result all along . Very likely. Theres a huge chance. Ive talked to a number of attorneys and say strategically speaking, that would be the right thing to do for hostess. Good to see you, thank you. Norah . The Pacific Northwest is getting a taste of extreme weather with two days till thanksgiving. One meteorologist calls the amount of rainfall there truly extraordinary. Reporter we are drying out in seattle for now. Heavy rain and high winds more than 100 miles an hour in some places. Rain was the big story, though. You have to go back more than two years to find a wetter day in seattle. Wild weather pummeled the Pacific Northwest on monday as 70mileperhour winds, heavy rain and downed trees knocked out power to thousands, already making this holiday week a travelers nightmare. This is horrible. Chuck jones works in a northwest Washington Office now surrounded by rushing water. All of a sudden you slam into a horrible lake in the road. Dangerous. Go slow. Stay home. Reporter further south a mudslide thrust a tree straight into a state troopers car, causing it and another vehicle to burst into flames. Miraculously, no one was hurt. Lot of wind. I hope it calms down. Reporter having to lend a hand in seaside, oregon. A fire crew clearing a fallen tree leading to major traffic delays. Hopefully well have our thanksgiving. Reporter a Property Owner in port orchard, washington. I understand when the weather is bad and theres a high tide this is going to happen. Im not sure what else to do. Reporter other local residents are bracing for more heavy weather, which could mean major flight delays for air travelers. Were just a couple of hours away from round two. Not expecting nearly as much rain today as we had yesterday. You can bet a lot of people are making alternate plans for thanksgiving with the threat of more flooding and power outages. For cbs this morning, im jeff dubois, seattle. Time to show you some of this mornings headlines from around the globe. Indianapolis star says officials now believe a deadly explosion was now intentional. No suspects have been named. Officials are looking for a white van that was seen in the neighborhood. L. A. Times reports four california men are being held in an alleged terror plot. Officials say the men arranged to join al qaeda and the taliban when they allegedly planned to use explosives to kill americans in afghanistan. Mcafee says he is still in belize but will not say where and denies he is mentally unstable. Police consider him a person of interest in the murder. Government health panel is recommending hiv testing for all americans age 15 to 65. An estimated 200,000 people in the u. S. Are infected with hiv and dont realize it. 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With more on that, cbs 5 reporter Elissa Harrington joins us with an update. What can you tell us . Reporter well, basically what they are trying to do is block all of the harbor entrances and they are succeeding at this. You can see all of these Truck Drivers waiting to get in to make their daily hauls but they havent been able to do that this morning. The port of oakland loads about 10,000 trucks per day. And many of the drivers i talked to say they are getting ready to go home. This is one of the busiest ports in the Country Union workers with the Service Employees International Union asking for a fair contract saying executives havent been bargaining in good faith. They are trying to reach out to the executives and getk this back to the bargaining table and try to get what they want. There will be a rally at 9 00 and another at noon and theres also a second picket line over at Oakland International airport. In oakland, Elissa Harrington, cbs 5. Thank you. We have traffic and weather coming right up. Good morning. Chopper 5 is continuing to follow these major caltrains delays. If you are just waking up, caltrains has single tracks right now around the palo alto station. They have reopened the southbound tracks after a fatal accident involving a pedestrian early this morning near palo alto. So bus bridge is no longer necessary but expect delays in both directions throughout the morning commute. That is traffic. Heres lawrence. We are seeing some showers around the bay area. Highdef Doppler Radar picking up on that right now. We have had to tweak it down with lowlevel moisture but taking you to oakland you can see some scattered showers showing up there right now. More of that on the way throughout the day. Captions by caption colorado comments captioncolorado. Com you hear about this . I dont even know what to think about this. You have general petraeus, fourstar general. Hes running the cia. And then all kind of trouble happens. And theres a woman involved who was writing his biography. The biographer the woman involved in the affair, guess who she hired for this. Thats right Monica Lewinskys [ laughter ] Monica Lewinskys crisis manager. And i said whew that is a genius move because that guy really kept the lid on things. If you think about it welcome back to cbs this morning. Im Norah Odonnell in washington. Charlie rose is in new york. Good morning charlie. Youre in washington because youre getting one more award, so congratulations to you for that. Oh, thank you, charlie. And in just one week, the key players in the David Petraeus scandal have become famous so theyve hired, as dave mentioned, some wellknown lawyers and other representatives to do damage control. Top Washington Attorney bob barnett is now working for the former cia director. Petraeuss biographer and mistress Paula Broadwell has now hired the pr firm for former White House Press secretary Dee Dee Myers works, and jill kelley, who made the complaint that uncovered the whole affair has teamed up with abbe lowell and judy smith, and not to leave anybody out, kelleys twin sister has now been represented and retained the attorney gloria allred. Thats a lot. Chip reid is here with a look at petraeuss next step. Chip, good morning. A lot of people are asking what does someone like general petraeus do now . Well thats a really good question. He was not long ago one of the most admired men in america. The question now is whether he can regain that elevated status and if so how . By any measure, David Petraeuss record of accomplishment is extraordinary. A fourstar general, he led the surges in iraq and afghanistan. He was director of the cia, and while he denied any interest in politics, some top strategists had them on their short list for president. This personal failing will be a blip on the historical record. Reporter Peter Mansoor was a top petraeus aide in iraq. If we made adultery a disqualification for public office, i think about half of washington would be out of a job. So i think you could very well see David Petraeus back in washington in a position a public position at some point. Reporter but getting there will take time and a plan according to Crisis Communications expert richard levic, who has helped a whos who during times. Reporter what does general petraeus need to do right now . General petraeus needs to do two things. First, disappear. Its the holiday season. He can spend time with his wife trying to mend that relationship. Reporter levic says that strategy worked for bill clinton after the Monica Lewinsky scandal, and for former new york governor Eliot Spitzer after he was caught with a prostitute. He had to set his own personal life in order first, and just like bill clinton, if the spouse forgives you, then who are we to judge . Reporter levic has the same advice for petraeuss alleged former mistress Paula Broadwell. Disappear. Avoid those photo ones that keep the story in the news. But becoming invisible might not be easy for someone as ambitious as broadwell. My longterm goal would be to become National Security adviser. Reporter according to Time Magazine she was even tempted with no political experience to run for the u. S. Senate in north carolina. So if disappearing is step one, what is step two . Step two is the resurrection. Were in the holiday season. It is the resurrection. Reporter beginning early next year, petraeus should give an interview to a top policy oriented print journalist. Avoid tv interviews, and do a speaking tour in europe where theyll care more about policy than adultery. Then, come back home and start rebuilding his career. And the story gets even stranger norah. The New York Daily News is reporting that the emails that broadwell sent to socialite jill kelley, the emails that really got this whole story going, were so menacing that they were described as the rantings of someone who was clearly unhinged and they say that kelley actually feared for her life. A source close to Paula Broadwell tells cbs news that that characterization is inconsistent with everything we know about Paula Broadwell, but this is obviously a story that is going to develop as the day goes on. Exactly. Chip reid, thank you very much. Charlie . With us now is Public Relations strategist matthew hiltzik. Welcome. Good morning, charlie. Henry kissinger after watergate said this what will come out eventually must come out immediately is. That a good rule to live by in a circumstance like this . I think its a good thing to hope for. Unfortunately, things arent solely in your control, it becomes a little more difficult to know where its going to go. I think that the general did what he could to make sure that everything would come out right away by acknowledging the affair and by stepping down. Unlike say, john edwards. Right, exactly. The opposite of john edwards, where i think this was a man who was straight forward. He acknowledged it and essentially paying the price by stepping down all in one news cycle, whereas john edwards extended it out over a lengthy period of time. How do you make the judgment as to whether you should do interviews orntd . I think one of the key issues is how many of the facts are yet to come out . I think in this case, theres not control of the information because there are these two or three other parties involved and its unclear about what their intentions are or what their actions have been or what else may arise. I think he needs to wait quite a while because you dont want to be caught in the situation of answering once and then having to answer again. Thats what criminal Defense Attorneys always say to me. Make sure you know the facts before you make any presentation. Paula broadwell, what would you say to her at this moment . I think the first issue is it seems like there might be some legal trouble for her. The first thing you want to do is make sure that you have a good lawyer. Yes. You also want to make sure that you are not in further criminal jeopardy. You want to make sure that before you start blazing a trail for a new career that youre sure that youre not going to be indicted for anything. And for jill kelley . Well i think she probably wants to clear her name in some way, but i think its not clear based on her sister having a press conference today, im not quite sure where that goes. And i think that sort of leads us to have to wait a little while to see how it plays out. Why do we always see the same people gathering around these scandals . Some of them because theyre very good at helping to solve the problems. And what do they know . Well, it depends. That depends totally on the situation. Theres some people who are very straight forward and acknowledge how they may have screwed up what their end game is and the others who are in total denial about it. And some with lawyers like gloria allred. Yes. Its always interesting around her. I think that regardless of the merits of the particular case, shes certainly someone who knows how to get attention for it. Matthew, thank you very much. Police in california shock a female driver with a taser and her heart stops beating, and its all recorded on video. Well show you how its raising new concerns about the weapons carried by thousands of cops. Thats next on cbs this morning. [ male announcer ] this is bob a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. The usual, bob . Not today. 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Officers stopped to check on the welfare of the driver 50yearold angela jones of los angeles. Reporter suspecting she might be under the influence of drugs, the chp officers questioned jones for the next 15 minutes. Then she refused to let unresponsive. Reporter one officer began performing cpr and angela jones came back to life. She is extremely lucky to be alive. Reporter heart surgeon kathy magliato. I think its really critically important that law officer understand that this taser is a weapon and it can kill people. Its awfully hard, randy, to exonerate the taser when you see a woman who clearly was fine up until the point she was tasered and then becomes unconscious, loses her pulse, and then is in sudden cardiac death. Reporter the chp declined our request for an oncamera interview, but offered a written state, and says the use of the taser in this incident appears to be within chp policy. The camera rolls continuously for 48 minutes and is likely the most complete record of a cardiac arrest following the use of a taser electronic controlled device. The most complete, but not the first time. An event like this was caught on tape. It was march of 2008 charlotte, north carolina. Store security cameras captured 17yearold Darrell Turner as Police Deployed a taser model x26 following an argument with the store manager. The teenager collapsed just off camera and later died. Pasadena attorney john burton represented the Turner Family in a civil trial that resulted in a jury award of 10 million. He is now preparing a lawsuit on behalf of angela jones. This device the taser, as its called is much more dangerous than the company indicates and that police believe, and especially when shot in the chest, the electric current can take over the heart rhythm and cause cardiac arrest. Reporter Taser International disputes this claim on their website, saying there is no reliable published data that proves taser ecds negatively affect the heart. Taser refers to medical studies that conclude its devices do not harm the heart. Taser international also provided a written statement, which says in part we are concerned about this incident and eagerly await more information. The company which makes this device would say theres no evidence that it causes any problems with the heart. This is all about attorneys who want to make a lot of money in lawsuits. You would say . Absolutely not. We have an article right here from circulation, which comes out of one of the most prestigious cardio vasvascular journals. It includes eight cases of people that were tasered, seven of which died. How can you tell me that using a taser is completely de lyly benign especially when we have it on videotape. She has many memory deficits and cognitive issues. Reporter angela joness attorney would only let her speak briefly to the pending criminal charges we are starting out with a lot of clouds around the bay area, even some light showers showing up outside today. So carry that umbrella with you if you are headed out the door. The clouds as we look toward mount diablo fairly dry there. But as you approach the coastline, inside the bay, in the north bay, we have seen some scattered light showers. A closer look now toward the oakland area you can see some of those scattered light showers continuing and we are going to see more of that toward the afternoon. Storm clouds still going to be rolling in. More rain on the way later on today and tonight. To shop at walmart black friday, you might have to cross picket lines. Some employees say theyll walk out instead of working that day. Well have the story behind their strategy. Thats on cbs this morning. [ man ] hello hello [ all ] ohh that is crazy are you kidding me . 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If these hostess executives cant sell twinkies to americans, they should never work in business again, right . Hostess and the employees union are going mediation now, but things dont look good which may mean in the future we will have to make our own twinkies using old sink sponges and cool whip. Do you ever feel like you should go to work even when youre feeling sick . Well show you when you absolutely should call in sick and when its okay to go into work. Thats ahead on cbs this morning. People really love snapshot from progressive but dont just listen to me. Listen to these happy progressive customers. I plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big on car insurance. With snapshot, i knew what i could save before i switched to progressive. The better i drive the more i save. I wish our company had something this cool. Youre not filming this, are you . Aw camera shy. Snapshot from progressive. Testdrive snapshot before you switch. Visit progressive. Com today. Your realtime captioner linda Marie Macdonald good morning. Its 7 56. Im Michelle Griego of a one day strike is stopping work at the port of oakland. Maintenance and janitors have been working without a contract. The union is picketing the Oakland Airport but not blocking passengers. Water main breaks this morning. A burst pipe caused a sinkhole in pittsburg and two in redwood city. Homes near those incidents are without Running Water but its expected to be restored this morning. Coming up traffic and weather including problems this morning on caltrain. Good morning. This morning for the morning commute all caltrain trips operating locally up to one hour delays in both directions so its a fatal accident on the tracks that happened around 5 30 a. M. They are still single tracking it near palo alto. Ace, muni, bart, ferries no delays. Lets look at the bay bridge toll plaza. It is stacked up well into the macarthur maze this morning. We have a high wind advisory issued by chp early this morning. Thats traffic. For your forecast, heres lawrence. Elizabeth, we have seen delays at sfo of almost three hours today if you can believe that. Thats because of all the low clouds and light showers in the bay area. Looking toward russian hill and the golden gate bridge, a lot of clouds outside. Roadways very damp this morning. Thats because of some light showers. Hidef doppler seeing some low level moisture so we have had to tweak the doppler a little lower this morning to look at some of the precipitation outside. Most of that concentrated in the north bay but we are going to watch this picking up into the afternoon so carry the umbrella and keep it handy today. Youll need it, especially late in the day and tonight, rain expected to move across the bay area. Drying out as we head toward the holiday. Good mor. Good morning to you. Its 8 00. Welcome back to cbs this morning. As secretary of state clinton heads to the middle east there are signs of a deal to stop the air attacks in israel and the gaza strip. Well meet the people behind the Butterball Turkey talk line. They answer all the thanksgiving cooking questions even those strange goofy ones. First here is a look at todays eye opener at 8 00. There are signless both sides of the conflict are looking for a way out, but neither seems willing to make the first concession opinions the ground. The United States is stepping in to try and prevent a war between israel and hamas. Secretary of state Hillary Clinton is on her way to the middle east this morning to meet with liters from both sides. Clintons message, an escalation of violence will hurt everyone, israeli and palestinian. They are nearing an agreement, but that agreement might actually take place within the next few hours. When the president returns to washington hell have to focus on the economy and the looming fiscal cliff. What its going to require is what its always required people willing to take tough votes, look at each other and trust each other. The Pacific Northwest is getting a taste of extreme weather. A lot of people are making alternate plans for thanksgiving with the threat of more flooding and power outages. It was not long ago, he was one of the most admired men in america. The question is whether he can regain that status and how. Paula broad well what would you say to her . You want to make sure before you start blazing a trail for a new career make sure youre not indicted. Hopefully if you bought a 30 box of twinkies, you didnt throw away the receipt. The price of gas has actually gone down in the last two weeks, just in time for the busiest travel day of the year when people going to visit their relatives, they were like, yea. Announcer the eye opener at 8 00 is brought to you by the aarp. Im charlie rose with gayle king. Norah odonnell is in washington. The United States is taking a new step to try to end fighting between israel and hamas. Secretary of state Hillary Clinton is on her way to meet with leaders. Charlie dagata is watching the fighting in gaza city. Good morning. Reporter good morning, charlie. There has been a noticeable letup in the past 24 hours, nothing like the kind of fighting we saw in the previous 24 hours in terms of air strikes coming in to gaza and missiles heading out. Having said that, there are reports of missile strikes excuse me, air strikes in Southern Gaza around rafa also an attack that knocked out a hamasbacked bank one that hit a house in a residential neighborhood killing the mother and the father and two children there. Palestinian officials tell us now the death toll has reached more than 100 people more than half of those killed are women and children. Now, although there is a lull there is tension in the air. We drove through the streets, most people are inside their homes, and vay ear avoiding obvious targets like hamas headquarters and police barracks. The real concerns are there are attacks happening in residential areas and they say theres nowhere they can go. Although people here are hopeful of a ceasefire, they are concerned that if talks should fail, it would be a return to an israeli incursion, Something Like we saw in 20082009 where 1900 palestinians were killed. Conversely this crisis is actually helping out hamas. Palestinians are throwing their support behind hamas because the people that we spoke to said were the victims of israeli air strikes. And what hamas is doing is standing to israel and firing back. If anything it has strengthened hamass position here in the gaza strip. Charlie dagata, thank you. The israelgaza conflict is dominating the headlines. A new poll Shows Americans are more interested in the fiscal cliff at home. A Pew Research Poll says 33 feel the fiscal cliff is the top issue. Thats more than the Libyan Embassy attack and the petraeus reservation. Wall street picked up ground on monday. The Dow Jones Industrial average soared more than 200 points the biggest gain in two months. If the president and congress cannot make a budget deal, tax heights and spending cuts kick in at the start of the year and one of the worlds most influential bankers, Roy Blankfein and ceo of Goldman Sacks tells scott pelley that washington in this case needs to put politics aside. Their job is to make the country function not to its not a winning game its a getalong game. Washington playing with fire . Yes. Yes, washington is playing with fire and you dont get its not like a Football Game where you get the twominute warning. They dont tell you when you have you only get one more chance. The voters have returned the same politicians to washington that got us in this fiscal mess to begin with. Why would you imagine that things would be different now . Theres a lot theres a lot of circumstances that got together to get us into this fiscal mess. Also people draw lessons from it. Its not the same people. Even the same people are not the same people. Anybody who has lived through a big trauma and has had that experience, if anything is resolved to make sure that doesnt happen again. I think this group of legislators has as good a chance of getting to a fair result as any new group of regulators coming in. I think whatever you gain in perspective you get compensated for in experience. Charlie and gayle, its interesting to hear how the Business Leaders are putting a lot of pressure, not just on the president , but also lawmakers to get this thing done right. Whats happening is theyre weighing in on all sectors of society to say we have got to do something now that circumstances no longer allow us to simply kick the can down the road. Now maybe more people seem to be open to lets try something different. What we did in the past was not working. Exactly. Tonight scott pelley will talk with the ceo of honeywell about the fiscal cliff and what to do about it tonight on the cbs evening news. Now to a business story that could impact a ton of consumers this busy shopping week. More protests planned outside the walmart stores. Some employees are giving up work as the Holiday Shopping season gets under way. They say its all about low wages and a lack of respect. Reporter these protesters in a maryland walmart are demanding better pay and better treatment. They want us to be silent. In being silent they dont have to hear what changes need to be made in the store. Reporter across the country some walmart employees are planning to walk off the job on the biggest shopping day of the year. Are you scheduled to work on black friday . Yes. Do you plan to go work on black friday . I do not. Dan hindman has worked at this walmart for four years. He says their low prices are because of his low wanls. The former employee of the month makes 9. 80 an hour. He lost custody of his 4yearold son whom he struggles to support. It kills me. It tears me apart big time. Reporter protesters want pay raised to a minimum of 13 an hour, more fulltime work and less Expensive Health care. Their insurance premiums are set to jump by as much as 36 as walmart scales back its contribution. The company says the protests are a publicity stunt orchestrated by outside unions trying to organize walmarts 1. 3 million u. S. Workers. The company filed a complaint with the National Labor Relations Board to stop the protests. We filed that because we wanted to put them on notice to say that if the unions do anything to disrupt our business or cause any safety concerns for our associates or our customers, theyre going to be held accountable. Reporter walmart is expecting its best black friday ever even if customers have to cross a picket line to get inside. For cbs this morning, ben tracy, los angeles. Some of our closest animal relatives have the same problems we do. A new study says chimpanzees and your orangutans suffer from mid life crisis. Scientists say this could mean its triggered by biological factors, not the frustration of jobs and family or the recognition we are mortal. What do they do when they have a crisis . How does that show itself . They pout. They pout exactly. I guess they cant get a new car, a new red sports car right . This morning britains Prince William is offering a rare look into his daily life. This is interesting. He put ten photos on his website showing a typical work day as a flight lieu ten naptd with his search and rescue team. The prince is a helicopter pilot in the unit and between missions william is seen making a beverage eating at the bases dining room and making his bed. Each shift lasts 24 hours so the crew stays on base overnight and close to the aircraft. Some behind the scenes of the prince. He makes his own bed. Isnt that good to know . Good to know. Singer rihannas tour plan getting a little crazy in the air. About 150 people traveling with her cut loose in the cabin on monday. One of them streaked down the aisle. There he goes butt nicked. The reporters have been supplied with plenty of alcohol. You think . They say theyre frustrated that rihanna hasnt given them more most of us want to go to work every day, even when were not feeling well. Well help you decide when to call in sick. Coming up next on cbs this morning. Of washington about the future of medicare and Social Security. Anncr but you deserve Straight Talk about the options on the. Table and what they mean for you and your family. Ancr aarp is cutting through all the political spin. Because for our 37 million members, only one word counts. Get the facts at earnedasay. Org. Lets keep medicare. And Social Security strong for generations to come. Even though our mom tries, she doesnt really get us. And shell never know who we are, or what. No way, madden girls . . Nike whos your mommy now . Famous brands. Famously easy. Famous footwear. Victory is yours. W. Its the bes [ male announcer ] at p. F. Changs, we serve more than starters. We serve igniters. And now, so can you. Introducing succulent dumplings and crispy spring rolls. Ignite the night with p. F. Changs home menu appetizers. Find them near our frozen meals. Grab your purse. Its go time. This is no ordinary thanksgiving. Sears black friday doorbusters start 8pm thursday going all night with more doorbusters 4am friday. This is sears. Do you hate the hassles of holiday air travel i like that. What can you do. People are saying sign me up. Nicely done david letterman. An estimated 24 million americans will get on a plane this holiday weekend. Right now are you thinking of staying home from work . Before you pick up that phone, heres dr. Holly phillips. Reporter good morning. Today on health watch when to call out sick. Flu and cold season is here and inevitably some of us are going to wake up feeling lousy faced with the decision of whether to call out sick to work. Here are some simple rules to when to pull up the covers. If youve got a fever, especially one over 102, accompanied by aches and pains, that could be a sign that youve got the flu. A sure choice for staying home. Now, a milder fever with a sore throat and white patches on your tonsils suggests strep throat. In that case stay home and visit your doctor. You may need antibiotics. A mild cough, nasal congestion and lowgrade fever may just be the common cold. If you feel up to it you can go into work but be kind to your coworkers and wash your hands before touching shared computers or appliances and cough into your elbow. Researchers have put the cost of the common cold at 25 billion. Of that 8 billion was from people calling out sick and 17 billion was from employees who couldnt be as productive. So if youre just not sure err on the side of caution and stay home. No matter what you decide your employer will pay the price, and as we say in Medicine Health is always more valuable than wealth. Im dr. Holly phillips. [ female announcer ] there are lots of different ways to say get well to your loved ones. This came for you, mommy. [ female announcer ] but it takes the touch of kleenex® brand, americas softest tissue to turn a gesture into a complete gift of care. [ barks ] send your own free kleenex® care pack. Full of soothing essentials at kleenex. Com. Kleenex®. Americas softest tissue. [ male announcer ] its that time of year again. Time for citi price rewind. Because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. And you really dont want to pay more than you have to. Only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. And if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. Just use your citi card and register your purchase online. Have a super sparkly day ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. Citi price rewind. Buy now. Save later. You all getting ready for thanksgiving . I havent gotten my turkey yet, but im following him on twitter, so thats what im doing now. Oh, speak of that more problems with the pentagon. Oh, my gosh. Today, two generals are caught trying to have phone sex over the butterball hotline. Speaking of all that if you think youre busy getting ready for thanksgiving, wait until you see what theyre doing at the famous butterball talk line. I just like hearing you say butterball. Butterball. Well meet the experts who are stuffing a lot of advice into the next few days and hear their answers to some very strange and unusual cooking questions. Thats ahead on cbs this morning. Your realtime captioner linda Marie Macdonald its 8 25i picket25. Workers started a oneday walkout last night at the airport and today they are picketing the port. Maintenance staff and janitors have been without a contract for 16 months and they have rejected managements latest offer. This morning, some people in pittsburg woke up to a big sinkhole and no Water Service for up to 15 homes. A pipe burst around midnight opening up a hole about two feet deep. Public works had to vacuum the water out. Now they are replacing the 6 pipe that broke in the first place. Today city supervisors in San Francisco are expected to vote on an ordinance that would ban nudity in most public places. It would apply to anyone over the age of 5, but there would be exemptions for street fairs and parades with nudity permits. Stay with us, traffic and weather coming right up. Good morning. Outside right now, heres a live look at the nimitz. This is the 880 in oakland. You can see how backed up it is in the northbound lanes. Drive time is almost a half hour between 238 and the maze. The only thing is an accident southbound 880 approaching fruitvale a motorcycle accident blocking a lane so impacting the northbound ride, as well. We are dealing with caltrain delays. They have been having to single track it around palo alto. There was a fatal accident involving a pedestrian on the tracks very early this morning about 3 hours ago. So still up to hour long delays northbound and southbound. Thats a check of traffic. For your forecast, heres lawrence. All right. We have seen plenty of clouds in our skies today, light showers showing up outside. We have some mostly cloudy skies as we look toward the san jose airport, although they are staying dry right now. The showers a little bit further to the north. We have seen that on our high def Doppler Radar. But these are very lowlevel clouds that are moving on through producing some light showers outside. Carrying that umbrella with you heading out. The main cold front will be pushing in later in the day as it moves in the rain picking up tonight and into tomorrow morning. And then it should start to dry out. Looks like dry weather for the holiday. Welcome back to cbs this morning. Thats a beautiful shot of our building. The people who produced Butterball Turkeys are hard at work, helping us cook them. More than 50 trained experts will help one million customers over the next few weeks on email, Facebook Twitter and over the phone. They get about 12,000 phone calls on thanksgiving day alone. Dean reynolds visited the place where they answer all those questions. Because you get those nice dark drippings to make your gravy from. Reporter the phone lines at the Butterball Turkey line are heating up like a thanksgiving turkey. The turkey is done. Reporter since 1981, these graduates of Butterball University and yes, there is a Butterball University dish out tips to make the holiday taste just right. How can i help you . Reporter carol miller has been offering forkfulls of advice to anxious cooks for almost three decades. We are very gentle souls. We know what were talking about. Youve got a question, youve got a problem, were here to help. Reporter or at least try. Ive taken a call from a new dadtobe, his question is i think my wifes in labor. The turkeys been thawing for four days. What do i do . So its like take care of your wife. The turkeys okay. Reporter dont sweat the turkey. Give us a call back when you get home. Reporter the wisdom of solomon is needed at times. One cook might say you need to cover the turkey and the other cook will say thats not the way you do it. They will call the experts and we get to litigate it. Reporter youre the referee. We are. And they take the advice. At the other end of the phone, you hear them say i told you so. Reporter one guy wondered how the oil from his chain saw might affect the taste of the turkey hed just carved with it. Many are stumped when the turkey just wont thaw. Sometimes you try to lighten it up a little bit and ill say to them to have Dessert First. Reporter have Dessert First . That works. Reporter pumpkin pie and then the turkey. Why is it called butterball again . A lot of people ask that question. Reporter actually, when the first butterball came out in the 1950s, it was simply plumper than its competitors. So its a fat turkey. Its moist, juicy and tender. I am a turkey talk line expert. Reporter Nicole Johnson has been a butterballer for 11 years. If i worked here, i would always be hungry. The smell of turkey. Reporter is it difficult to resist this . You Better Believe it. Its turkey all the time. Reporter do you ever say to yourself, god, what i wouldnt do for a ham sandwich . No we love turkey. Reporter and butterball has never been more accessible. So what am i looking at now . This area here is designated for our social media. Reporter butter ball is terribly modern. See how many likes we have. Over 66,000. Reporter on facebook and twitter in addition to its own website and app. Over 250 recipes. Reporter you can get help for desserts for sides, even for some nonturkey entrees. What about tofu turkeys . Hmm. Its not our area of expertise. How about two turkeys . Reporter on thursday, carol and her friends will leave the cooking to others. Theyll be here on the phone for hours, but they dont consider it a sacrifice. You are walking into peoples homes. You are walking into what is happening in their homes. Sometimes you feel like a guest. I could tell by all the notes you were taking, charlie that youre all prepared. Im getting that bird ready. I could tell. I think your bird is always ready. Movie television and school pageants dont tell you everything charlie goes uhhuh, thanksgiving day. Kenneth c. Davis knows the real story. Good morning, gayle. Were taught in school that the pilgrims came to this country in search of religious freedom. You said that thats only half of the story and that not onboard the mayflower were pilgrims. Thats correct. Half of them are what we would call pilgrims the people coming because they were trying to escape the church of england and persecution. The other half were coming for opportunity, land and a chance to have a life in this new world. Thats one of the reasons when they go to Province Town thats where they landed first, tip of cape cod they had to decide who was going to be in charge because they were going to go their separate ways and thats why they sat down and decided to write this thing called the mayflower compact, the first real constitution in American History and said they were going to rule themselves with a vote. Of course, the women werent included. How many people who came aboard did you say there were a hundred . About a hundred passengers who survived trip. One child born on the trip named oceanis. And when did they begin celebrating thanksgiving . Well what we think of as the first thanksgiving this is where the legend and the myth gets layered on. October 16th is the first harvest. Thanksgiving would have meant a day of fasting. What did they serve . They did have turkey but wild turkey. Not the butterball were talking about right now. But a lot more seafood obviously. They were camped out next to the atlantic ocean, so there was cod. There was eel. Eel was a great protein. I love eel dont you . No. Not even kind of. And squanto, this famous indian that could speak english, taught them how to catch. He could speak english . Thats right. When the pilgrims arrived in 1620, they were there for a few months, and one day somebody walk into their camp a bedraggled native american and speaks english and he comes back a few days later and brings another man named we call him squanto. That was probably not his real name. He could speak english. They had met european sailors english sailors for many years. This is part of the myth also. Sailors had been up and down these coasts for a long time looking for cod. And squanto had actually been taken prisoner onboard a ship, been forced into slavelyry, first in spain and then in england. There are a lot of myths and misconceptions. Including we think about what they wear. Black clothes, black hats silver buckles on their shoes. Youre saying even thats not true. Thats not true. Youre just here to break myths this morning. Im bursting all those thanksgiving day stories this morning. The picture with the black and the black hats is really an idealized vision of the puritans who come a little bit later. Thats a 19th century victorian america idealized vision. They tote their guns and go off to church. Thanksgiving would have meant probably three hours in church. Those puritans were festive people. Seven president s go back to the may flower, right . Seven or aircraft including the adams. And whats lincolns connection . He creates the first thanksgiving president ial proclamation placing thanksgiving on the last thursday in november. And it had nothing to do with the puritans or the pilgrims. He had very little to be thankful for. And roosevelt . Roosevelt moved the traditional thanksgiving date in 1939 because of the depression. Retailers said move it up a week. We need more time for shopping. That was happening back then. There was a lot of controversy over it. They called it franksgiving. 1941 Congress Sets the date as the fourth thursday in november which is where it is today. Thanks. As long as i can eat turkey and wear pajamas most of the day, im good. Pajamas on thanksgiving . I try to. But this thanksgiving, ill be with you. Well be right here. No pajamas, i promise. Youre bringing the turkey are you . Yeah that, too. Kens book, by the way, is called dont know much about the american president s is on sale now. Millions of us will be traveling for thanksgiving, and dont forget about christmas. Not o cf1 o not us. Well be here. Were not complaining either really. Were thrilled to be here. Peter greenberg will show us how to analysts say the airports will be extremely busy this week for the thanksgiving holiday, as always. And the prices are only going up. So this means finding the best Holiday Travel deals will be tougher than ever. Cbs news travel editor Peter Greenberg is here to show us how to navigate that travel maze. What would be great if you could just say guess what the holiday fares are going down you never say that. No, you never say that. Especially this year. 24 Million People traveling competing for a fewer number of seats. They have nowhere to go but up but there is some hope. Because youre saying we should Pay Attention to the websites. Some websites. I still like picking up the phone and talking to somebody. Im a big fan of the conversation. You should still do it. You can always go to the websites afterwards. Have the conversation first because once you book a fare you still have 24 hours to purchase it. Lets talk about some upside. Theres one i like called hipmunk. It not only tracks the air fares for for youre welcome it tracks the agony factor. They give you readings you would never expect. Over thanksgiving, how about new york to london . You know what it came up with . New york to london via istanbul. But it gave you a 15hour layover. So if you plan it right, you get to tour the city and then go to london. Yeah, but 15hour layover. 15 hours in istanbul. No no, 15 hours in istanbul. And kayak, one most people dont know about is momondo. Theyre based in scandinavia. They scour about 700 other websites youve never heard of overseas. So if youre planning european travel, thats where to go. What happens if i just want to go to d. C. . Its called amtrak. Theres a website called cruisecompete. Com, sort of like the lending tree where they send you quotes. They all compete to see whos going to get you the lowest quote in. The cruise industry, an unsold cruise is inventory theyll never recoup once that cruise sales. These travel agencies may have preferred Supplier Relationships with the cruise lines or have unpublished deals that are not necessarily on other websites. You always say its good to bundle your travel. What it means is as opposed to buying your hotel here your airline over here, you bundle it, even the you dont necessarily need the hotel because sometimes theyve got to get rid of this inventory. New york to l. A. X. , you can bundle something for 1,400 thats airfare and hotel. But if you bought it a la carte, its 1,800. Even if you dont stay at the hotel, it could be cheaper. You say its better to get a hotel that you do not need . If its cheaper than buying the airfare alone, you bet. Its sort of like buying a round trip ticket and you know you wont use the other part. Its the airfare thats going to kill you half the time, so if you can get a cheaper airfare because they blocked up the seats, who cares about the hotel. Get on the plane. So we are in striking distance of thanksgiving but you say we should Pay Attention to dead weeks. This aint a dead week. No, but the dead week is coming. Its the week immediately following thanksgiving. And the week immediately following new years. Those are the two weeks of the year that nobody goes anywhere and if you can actually delay your holiday by that one week take the kids out of school you own that destination just about anywhere in the world. The two dead weeks immediately following thanksgiving and immediately following new years. You own it. And i never think its bad to travel on thanksgiving day. Theres nobody at the airport and you can get a really good flight. And then you come back on the friday when everybodys stuck in the mall. Thats another day nobody flies. Ive done that, too. Thank you, Peter Greenberg. Good to see you. Mailing cards and invinations can be a real pain. Well meet a brother and a sister who say their digital cards are easier and just as classy. Paperless post is the name of their company. Theyre coming up next to tell us about it coming up next. Look at this display of the power of the sun. Two mass i haveive solar flares shot into space on friday. This eruption was so big, nasas cameras could not capture it all. Scientists say these flares were directed away from the earth, so they wont give us any problems. People sure like getting invitations, but they dont always like sending them. But james and Alexa Hirschfeld said you can fix that. Theyre brother and sister and they cofounded paperless post. Their website allows you to send your own eecards. Welcome you two. James, i hear this was your bright idea. You were 21 at Harvard University and youre thinking what . I had just had a party for my 21st birthday and i realized there was no way to send an invitation online that reflected how much care and thought had gone into the event. The only way was to send it through a service like evite. I thought there matt schaub way to combine the beauty and customization of paper stationary with the efficiency of online communication. I sort of had the idea. So what did you then do when you had the idea . I called my sister. Yeah. And sister said . Yeah so actually he talked he told me about this idea. And i listened. Hes not the one that normally gets excited about ideas. Hes actually much more cynical and much more but i imagine the service where you can see it really looks like paper stationary. You see the grain of the paper and the font of the colors, but its delivered all online. I think people would use it. I think theyd love it. And the thing about your site, your invitations are so beautiful. Right now, as it turns out, working on the cbs this morning christmas party, do you think maybe we should use paperless posts . I dont see why you wouldnt. You make it so interactive. Theres a very cool thing. Its like it comes to life on the screen. Was that your idea, alexa . It was my idea. Because basically we wanted people to be able to remark and say oh the one that looks like paper, it comes out of an envelope. Im intrigued by the two of you. Tell me how you assess each other. Weve obviously known each other a long period of time. There was a lot of data to go on. But basically i always wanted to work with alexa. I always felt if i thought of a product she could manage a team for, we could do a good job. So you come up with an idea and she does the work. He also is a really great designer and artist and always has been. He used to paint and sculpt and do all the photographs. And i remember everybody would see his work and they would love it. Theyre like hes amazing. So whos the entrepreneur . I think we both are. And whose decision was it to charge for all of this . Both of ours. Depends who you ask. I got this morning from linkedin, that harvard was ranked number three the most entrepreneurial colleges. But harvard has produced ten selfmade billionaires more than any other school. So is that sort of your goal . And all of them dropped out before they got a degree. Did you think we could make a lot of money doing this . Were you thinking that . I think that harvard the best thing about it isnt that maybe its not the classes that you take but the people that youre there with so it was really inspiring to see people friends of ours, or people that were older than us who had created things from nothing, and that was an inspiring thing. So your parents, what do they say about all of this . Way to go . Theyre pretty supportive. Theyre just designing their holiday cards right now. I wonder who theyll use . Exactly. Do your parents get a discount . Having this success where do you go from here . Well we Just Launched paper, which is ironic. Isnt that a contradiction to what you do . Launching a paper line . You would think so but people love us for the ability to its not just that they send it online. Its that they can design it themselves, which is a new thing. Before they had to go to the stationary store and talk to somebody. People love our design and their ability to design something. What we found is that our users have been saying over and over again we love paperless posts, but we also sometimes need to send paper invitations. As i mentioned, were doing the holiday card here. You said friends and family discount. My name is gayle, his name is charlie. We are your friends. No, were family. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Much success to both of you, our continued stouz edd success to both of you. Well watch and see what happens. That does it for us. Up next, your local news. Well see you tomorrow right here on cbs this morning, as we make our way to thanksgiving. Your realtime captioner linda Marie Macdonald. Good morning, everyone. Its 8 55 im Michelle Griego with your cbs 5 headlines. Streaking workers are hoping to disrupt operations at the port of oakland. Striking maintenance staff and janitors are staking a oneday strike. They are without a contract for 16 months and turned down the latest management offer. Nurses are on strike at 10 bay area hospitals. The walkout is happening for two days at eight sutter hospitals and for today only at two san jose hospitals run by Hospital Corporation of america. Key issues include Staffing Levels and sick leave, replacement workers have been hired for five days. Voters in berkeley have rejected a socalled sitlie ban that was aimed at the homeless. Measure s would have banned sitting and lying on commercial sidewalks between the hours of 7 a. M. And 10 p. M. But lost by 4 . Heres lawrence with the forecast. We have seen a few showers early on in the bay area, still a chance of scattered showers so grab the umbrella if you are heading out the door. Looking toward russian hill and the golden gate bridge, cloudy skies right now. Hidef doppler has them picking up a couple of raindrops outside so be prepared. Most of the focus is in the north bay although some of that is sagging further to the south. We are going to see the cold front moving in later on. Its going to be a slow mover. Looks like late in the day in the north bay and overnight for the rest of the bay area. Then maybe a little unsettled early tomorrow morning but most of wednesday a big travel day should be dry. Thanksgiving looking nice and sunny and warmer. Warmer into the weekend. We are going to check out your timesaver traffic coming up next. Good morning. An accident southbound 880 in oakland is cleared but look what its done to the northbound ride. Its still really jammed up past the coliseum. Unfortunately it looks like this towards downtown. Drive time in the red almost 40 minutes between 238 and the maze. New accident just coming in, in san jose. Northbound 101 approaching story road. And caltrain even though both tracks are now open, there was an earlier fatal accident on the tracks. Still seeing major delays both directions of up to an hour northbound and southbound. Have a great day. Captions by caption colorado comments captioncolorado. Com today. Someones in the kitchen with zooey. Theres a new girl in my kitchen, baking up a holiday classic in time for thanksgiving. I always wanted to cook on television