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Woodruff ukraines parliament voted in a new government today and it immediately faced a challenge from the countrys crimea region. Prorussian gunmen seized official buildings there, as Russian Military jets patrolled along the border. It raised concerns at a nato meeting in brussels, where u. S. Defense secretary chuck hagel said hes keeping a close watch on russian actions. Lets keep the tensions down. Lets see no provocative actions by anyone, any military. These are difficult times, we all understand that, but this is a time for very cool, wise leadership. On the russian side, on everybodys side woodruff in washington, secretary of state john kerry said he spoke with russias foreign minister, who promised to respect ukraines sovereignty. Meanwhile, russian news accounts said ousted ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovich is sheltering at a kremlin retreat near moscow. Theres word he plans a News Conference tomorrow. Well get more on the developing situation, right after the news summary. Bomb blasts shook baghdad and other parts of iraq today, killing at least 52 people. Most of the deaths came in a motorcycle bombing that struck a shiite market. Other attacks hit both shiite and sunni sections of the city. A wave of violence began last april, and has continued despite government pledges to restore security. In northeastern nigeria, islamist fighters struck again today, killing at least 33 people. Survivors said gunmen with boko haram staged an allnight attack on a town and several villages after soldiers ran away from military checkpoints. On tuesday, the militants murdered almost 60 students at a Government School in a neighboring state. Gay rights activists cheered today after Arizona Governor jan brewer vetoed a bill letting Businesses Refuse Service to gays on religious grounds. The republicans closely watched decision came last night. She rejected arguments by bill supporters who cited religious Rights Violations in other states. Senate bill 1062 does not address a specific concern related to religious liberty in arizona. I have not heard one example in arizona where a Business Owners religious liberty has been violated. The bill is broadly worded, and could result in unintended and negative consequences. Woodruff similar legislation is pending in at least six other states. Also today, a federal judge in louisville ordered kentucky officials to begin immediately recognizing samesex marriages from other states and countries. The netherlands is the latest country to suspend aid to uganda over a new antigay law there. It imposes sentences of up to life in prison for those who engage in homosexual relations. Norway and denmark have already halted millions of dollars in assistance in uganda. The u. S. Has warned it too, may cut aid. Democrats in the u. S. Senate fell short today in a bid to advance a 21 billion Veterans Benefits package. The measure would expand health care, education and job training. Republicans blocked the bill in part over its cost. They also wanted to add new sanctions on iran over its nuclear program. Food nutrition labels may be getting a new, easiertoread look. Calories and sugar content will stand out more, and serving sizes will be updated to bring them more in line with the portions people actually eat. First Lady Michelle obama rolled out the proposal today at the white house. Families deserve more and better information about the food they eat. And its important to note that no matter what the final version looks like, the new label will allow you to immediately spot the calorie count because it will be in large font and not buried in the fine print. Woodruff the food and Drug Administration will take comments on the proposal for 90 days. A final rule could take another year. Well look more closely at the proposed changes later in the program. U. S. Attorney general eric holder was taken to a Washington Hospital for a time today. An aide said he felt faint and had trouble breathing during a morning staff meeting. He was discharged after several hours and sent home. Holder is 63 years old. In economic news, the new chair of the Federal Reserve bank acknowledged a spate of weak reports could mean slower growth. Janet yellen told a Senate Committee that Consumer Spending and job growth have been lower than expected. But she said the severe winter could be the main cause. Part of that softness may reflect adverse weather conditions. But at this point its difficult to discern exactly how much. In the weeks and months ahead, my colleagues and i will be attempting to it signals that indicates whether the recovery is progressing in line with our earlier expectations. Woodruff wall street rallied after yellens testimony. The Dow Jones Industrial average gained 74 points to close at 16,272. The nasdaq rose more than 26 points to close under 4,319. And the s p 500 finished the day with a record high, up nine points to close at 1,854. Still to come on the newshour. A new Prime Minister takes the helm of a divided ukraine, dire straits for Palestinian Refugees in syria, president obamas push to help young men of color strive for success, a makeover for nutrition labels on food packages, how american and British Intelligence agencies spied on webcams, plus, the oscarnominated documentary the act of killing. Ifill in ukraine, a crisis is unfolding in the Eastern Province of crimea. Lindsey hilsum of independent Television News reports from simferopol, the capital of the prorussian region. Police were on gourd outside the Regional Parliament this morning. The entrance barricaded by Old Furniture and pallets. The russian flag flying alongside the crimea on top. And inside the building, some 60 armed men. Nobody knows whats going on inside now. We are just saw the building being taken over. 30 fully armed guys rubin side. They kicked out the police. Then more buses came and about 30 more guys arrived. They had bags full of rpgs, sniper rifles, handguns, these guys were fully armed. The crowd was all in favor. They said they didnt know exactly who would occupy the building but they all wanted the same thing. A referendum on where the crimea should remain part of ukraine or as they all want, join russia. In key eve parliamentarians responded angrily, its a challenge to the new governments control. Anyone who tries to, and i stress anyone, to take over the government buildings in ukraines east, west, center, south and north is going to be treated as having committed a crime against the government of ukraine. So what are they going to do about it . The people occupying the Crimean Parliament are armed and outside including the police are sympathetic. So its hard to see how the authorities in kiev can force a siege. They will have to negotiate. And that gives not just to the militant russian crimean but to the only man they respect, president putin. This morning Russian Armoured vehicles headed towards president putin may be insurancing that every one remembers that the Russian Military has bases here. They turned around at the Ukrainian Police check point. A group of men were building a camp outside the headquarters of the riot police. They want to protect them from the new authorities. Two courses have become entwined. These men love russia and they see accused of murdering protestors if kiev as their heroes. A small group of pro russia pro protestors marched through the streets yelling their message that they dont accept the authority of kiev and its European Union backers. People milled around as deputies inside the occupied parliament waited in favor of the referendum on whether the crimea should join russia. Kiev would can claire the vote illegal but are not sure how theyre going stop it. Woodruff the state Department Released its annual human rights report today and concluded that last summers chemical weapons attack in syria which killed more than 1,400 people was the worst human rights violation of 2013. While there have been no new reports of chemical attacks, the civil war rages on and the humanitarian crisis continues to escalate. Tonight we take a closer look at those barely surviving amidst the conflict. Its a scene of utter desolation. Here in the yarmouk camp, thousands of Palestinian Refugees are caught in the crossfire of civil war, in a country that is not their own. translated by god, we are dying from hunger. We cant take this anymore. Woodruff yarmouk was first established in 1957, near the center of damascus. Once, 160,000 palestinians lived there. Now, 18,000 are left. Theyve been under siege by the syrian army since july, after some palestinian factions turned against the assad regime. Since then, the u. N. Says more than 100 residents have died of starvation and related illnesses. This week, aid workers negotiated their way into the camp and were met with a swarm of desperate people. U. N. Footage showed an elderly woman who came out to receive aid. The workers ask if she is palestinian or syrian. Im palestinian, she laments, Filippo Grandi is head of the u. Ns Palestinian Refugee agency. He visited yarmouk on tuesday, and said later the people looked like ghosts. These are people that have not been out of there, that have been trapped in a situation not only without food, medicines, clean water all the basics but also probably completely subjected to fear because there was fierce fighting, noisy fighting going all along. Woodruff and, as the fighting rages on, an ever growing number of syrians have been forced to leave their homes. Nearly seven million are displaced within their own country. Another 2. 5 million have sought refuge in surrounding states. Lebanon has the largest contingent, at more than 900,000. Jordan and turkey now host roughly 600,000 Syrian Refugees each. And more than 200,000 syrians are living in iraq. In washington today, senator tim kaine of virginia highlighted the humanitarian crisis, insisting that russia put pressure on assad. None of this is an accident. The assad regime is using forced starvation and forced sieges as a weapon to destroy the Syrian People. Woodruff for now, u. N. Staffers continue to work through negotiations with the syrian government, rebel and palestinian factions within the yarmouk camp with the aim of delivering more aid while it can still do some good. We turn now to two who have focused on the humanitarian crisis caused by the syrian civil war. Nancy lindborg is assistant administrator of the u. S. Agency for International Development in charge of conflict and humanitarian assistance. And Michael Gerson is a Washington Post columnist and former speech writer for president george w. Bush. We welcome you to the newshour. Nancy lindborg, we see these terrible pictures, almost impossible to believe. How did it get like this . You know, its been steadily et cetera ca lating particularly in the last year. Weve seen the number of people who have been displaced rise by three times in the last year. And the people who you saw are part of 12 cities that are literally beseiged, 250,000 people, many of whom havent received aid for months and months. And theyre eating cats and dogs. Woodruff and so is it as bad, we saw pictures in one place inside syria. Is it that bad in other refugee encampments sm. I think its hard to imagine the depth of difficulty people are facing inside syria right now. In aleppo they are dropping barrel bombs. Knees are bombs that are constructed from bolts and rebar and specifically designed to horrificly injure people so what we are seeing is the unfolding to the just of a humanitarian crisis but a serious human rights crisis where people are being systemically denied food and targeted. Woodruff so michael ger son, there is a gerson there is a crisis for those inside syria, terrible. You were at a syrian refugee camp in jordan. What did you see there . Well, i was with the Holocaust Museum examining issues over there. And we were at the Border Crossing seeing the people coming right acrosstheboard frere sirria. And it is exactly what you are strike. Their stories right on the border, very much either the beseiged areas of syria, the government surrounding areas, depopulating them, attacking them, using barrel bombs, using hunger as a tool. This is not a case where the news of the innocent bystanders or the byproduct of a civil war. This is a case where one side in that civil war is using aya tacks on civilians, mass atrocities as a tool of war, as a strategy of war. The testimony that we heard from person after person, from homes in aleppo, the suburbs of dom as cuss, 40 some areas right now in the estimates that are beseiged and where civilians are being attacked. Tell us some of the stories that you heard. Well, you know, i was surrounded at the camp by a bunch of people who were very anxious to tell their stories. But there was one man that hung back and talked about how he had been a protestor. And had his house targeted by a tank, a regime tank. Lost a fouryearold daughter, a sixyearold son, a 15yearold son lost a leg. And all he said, i asked, you know, i was in tears when he was telling this, all he said at the end was i just wanted someone to know this was a case where part of the problem is, is a failure of sympathy. I talked with a lot of the great aid groups over there that are not getting much donor money right now, for the syrian crisis. One told me that they had raised in three months for the philippines, where it had taken three years to raise in the syrian conflict. People are not very engaged in this. Nancy lindborg, how much is getting in and who is sending it in, where is it coming from. Remind us where this money is coming from. The United States is the single largest donor. We have given about 1. 7 billion of humanitarian assistance since the crisis began. And were working with u. N. Agencies, international ngos, local syrian groups. The courage of the humanitarian workers who every day are risking their lives to deliver assistance is really remarkable. Just one of our partners has lost 42 of its Staff Members since the conflict began. So the aid is coming in through all different ways, reaching people throughout the country. But its difficult to escalate the assistance as fast as the needs are rising. So i was going to say, theres aid going in. But a lot of people are to the getting aid. The United States alone is feeding 2 Million People a day. We sport the World Food Program or the largest donor. They fed last month more than 4 million. But the needs are so much greater. Its as if the entire state of new jersey needs food and medical assistance every day. What else, what needs to happen. Who needs to step up here, Michael Gerson, i want to ask you too. Who needs to step up and what needs to be done. I want to confirm, on the humanitarian side t is extraordinary. What the u. S. Government is doing. What the jordanian government is doing. They have taken in 600,000 people in a country that has poor Water Resources and you know, is not a very wealthy country themselves. The problem is there may be 500,000 mobile refugees right on the other side of the border in southern syria that could overwhelm a country like jordan. The difficulty is how do you change the situation on the ground within syria. And i think the administration is now reexamining some of its methods to try to do that. The question you mean effect the conflict itself. Affect the security situation thats producing this problem in the longterm. But a lot of the humanitarian organizations are now begin toing to plan for five years, ten years out this is to the going to be solved in any short amount of time. How do you see it, what needs to happen in the short run and the longer run. Well, immediately, we have the opportunity of the Un Security Council resolution that was passed on saturday. Its the first times theres been a unanimous agreement among the members of the Security Council that the barrel bombing must stop. There must be full, unfettered humanitarian access, that if this is not complied with, that the Security Council will examine and take further action. Is that having an effect . It just passed on saturday so well be closing watching and pushing the secretary ban kimoon will be making a report within a month. There has to be action, every day syrians are dying. Every day children are suffering. And just to note to michaels point about people have become almost numb because of the complexity and enormity of this crisis, the children in particular have been suffering. Is there something people watching can do without want to help . I suggest they go to champions for the children of syria. Org where there are different calls to action to help people get engaged. To help People Partnership in a global call, both for action as well as to let the Syrian People know that their stories are being heard. Nancy lindborg with usaid, Michael Gerson, we thank you. Thank you. Ifill leaders from the corporate, philanthropic, arts, faith and sports worlds gathered at the white house today to address a single issue the challenges facing young men and boys of color. The issue has become a key priority for the president. The bottom line is, michelle and i want every child to have the same chance this country gave us. Ifill when president obama uttered these words during his state of the union address, this is who he had in mind. Christian champagne is an 18 yearold senior at Hyde Park Career Academy on chicagos south side. He plans to go to college and hopes to become a lawyer. But, as a young black man, he faces challenges steeper than most. High incarceration rates, low High School Completion and unemployment dramatically higher than the rest of the population. But christian and the other young men like him who traveled to the white house this week, hope to buck that trend. They are all part of a program called becoming a man or bam. Bam was needed because it helps young black men to become great and gets goals in life. It was more than needed in my opinion and it should be worldwide. Ifill bam is one of dozens of programs nationwide that will be part of my brothers keeper, an initiative focused on young men of color announced today at the white house. 28 Foundation Executives are pledging 200 million to support literacy, school and criminal Justice Reform and jobs programs to help young men like christian. Id probably be still a little less me to say i dont really express my feelings that much. So id be blank as a page. But now i talk to people and have conversations with everyone. Without hope you have nothing. I mean you have goals, but youve got to have that hope to get you there. Ifill mr. Obama says my brothers keeper will be part of his president ial legacy. This is an issue of national importance. Its as important as any issue that i work on. Its an issue that goes to the very heart of why i ran for president. Because if america stands for anything, it stands for the idea of opportunity for everybody. If you work hard, if you take responsibility then you can make it in this country. applause the announce ifill the announcement comes well into the president s second term, and almost exactly two years after George Zimmerman killed florida teen Trayvon Martin in an incident that transfixed the nation and the president who spoke after zimmerman was acquitted of the crime. You know, when Trayvon Martin was first shot i said that this could have been my son. Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago. Ifill even before the martin incident verdict, the president had connected with bam, which provides counseling, mentoring and violence prevention to more than 1,400 students in 36 Chicago Public schools. This Weeks White House trip is now their second visit to the home of the worlds most famous black man. I explained to them when i was their age, i didnt have a dad in the house. I made bad choices, i got high and didnt think of the harm it could do, didnt take school i paid excuse, sometimes i sold myself short. And i remember when i was saying n you may remember this, ever a i was finished the guy sitting fix to me said are you talking about you . laughter as part ifill as part of the new initiative, the Obama Administration will also evaluate existing government programs. But much of the effort will focus on Community Efforts like bam. The university of chicagos crime lab found that a year in the bam program increases Graduation Rates by 10 to 23 , and has cut Violent Crime arrests by 44 . Its more economically incentivizing to Fund Programs like this to prevent crime and a lot of the social ills and to lock people up, incarcerate them and really try to give people a shot before things get bad. So i think when the guys have a ifill 19yearold Kerron Turner is interested in a career in Mortuary Sciences or archeology. Bam, he says, helped him deal with depression. Its like where kids get off their mind and things that theyre going through. They release it and i guess they feel better from it or at least it works for me so far. Ifill the goal to make it work for many more a lot more young men, in a lot more places. Each of the foundations that signed on today get to decide which projects will benefit from the new program. But, as the president said today, there are broader underlying questions. Yesterday, i discussed some of them with Gail Christopher, Vice President for programs at the w. K. Kellogg foundation and eddie glaude, a professor of religion and African American studies at Princeton University. Welcome, Gail Christopher and eddie glauchlted i want to start which Gail Christopher, because the Kellogg Foundation has a lot of money invested in this project. Why is it essential what is important about it . When we look at the disparities that our young men of color face in terms of opportunity and access to opportunity in this country, it does not bode well for the future of the nation. Young people of color make up about 23 of the population between ages 10 and 17. Yet they make up over 50 of those who are incarcerated in the juvenile and sometimes criminal Justice System. They are disproportionately suspended and expelled from school. The data is clear that there are underlying factors that are limited opportunities for this population group. And these underlying factors need to be addressed. Why are the solutions in the hands of the private secter . They really arent. The solutions are also in the Public Sector. But they arent really focused in a specific way around this population. They are work programs, there are employment programs. There are all sorts of things, there are health programs. But they really havent been examined thoroughly enough and focused in on the needs of this population professor f agree that this is a serious problem that needs addressing, whose responsibility is it to address it . I think thats the Perfect Question to ask. We do know that there is a crisis engulfing young people, young people of color in this country. And i think its the responsibility of americans and i think its a responsibility of government. Part of im excited about the initiative but im skeptical. Im thinking, im skeptical about it in the sense that it seems to have bought into a particular frame that kind of publicprivate partnerships are the answers to public problems. And it reflects, i think, sister, it reflects i think a troublesome notion of government that we have to displace and dispel. I think we actually need something more robust on the public side to respond to the crisis. And im not so convinced that the private sector, and in partnership about the Public Sector can address the crisis at all of its levels, if you understand what i mean. Let me ask Gail Christopher about that. Because you had a report that came out in 2006 which reaches those conclusion then. What is different about what is being proposed now . I think is unprecedented that we have the bully pulpit of the highest office in the land, that the president of the United States is drawing attention to the scope and the scale and the nature of the issue, and thats important. When you have lived long enough and worked in these issues of social justice you know that it takes a lot of time, sometimes it takes decades to bring attention to and really mobile size and solve a problem so we recognize that its been a Long Time Coming and that communities have been working hard on the ground, but two off then isolation, without the support of the broader community, the philanthropic, private and Public Sector this is really an all hands on deck moment for us ace nation. I have to ask this, do you think she mentioned the fact of having the bully pull pet at the white house is it significant in any way that a black president would be the one heading up this initiative and does it make a difference . Is there enough . Well, i think its significant on its face. I hope it will play itself out in a substantive way but lets be very clear. We can talk about Public Private partnerships and being at the heart of the housing crisis. We can think about the 1968 hud act. And part of what that act involved was Public Private relationships designed to increase Home Ownership among black folk, black americans. What was the result . The creation of an emerging market with predatory lending like behaviors in practices that lead to billions of dollars of loss within black communities in the 1970s, predating the housing crisis of 2008. So part of what im suggesting here is that we believe in this country that publicprivate partnerships can be responsible for maintaining the public good. Securitying the public good. But we see what Public Private partnerships are dwoing regards to Public Education and i think we need to understand that this crisis that has everything to do with unemployment, that has everything to do with the failure of the Education System that has everything to do with structural system i believe racism in terms of the criminal Justice System requires a robust, response from the government. But we are living in times, weve lived over a few decades and i dont want to take too much time here but for the last few decades we have lived in a moment where the conception of government playing an active role in insurancing the public good has been under a relentless assault. And part of what i hoped with this initiative but it was a hope against hope to invoke the boys s that we would somehow break out of the frame. But instead, the frame has limited the scope and in some ways limited our imagination. Let me ask Gail Christopher, are you more optimistic than that . And i want to ask you about one particular piece of that first but are you more optimistic. I am more optimistic but its because the wk Kellogg Foundation is not in denial about the issues of racism in this country. And weve been working over the last five years, actually the last 20 years on the issues of men and boys of color. But very specifically we learned after trying the Service Model and the policy model and the philanthropic model that we wont make progress until we deal with the underlying issues of racism and structural racism, and actually lead the nation in an effort to heel the legacy, the perception of a difference in value of human beings. Let me ask you both about racism, about one specific piece of this. Which is recidivism. We hear about the cradle to prison pipeline blue it turns out sometimes it becomes the prison back to the streets back to the prison pipeline as well. What in this Initiative Starting about you, gail, would actually address this in the lasting way . Communities have to be able to embrace the young men that return to the communities. They have to be able to be employed. Thats one way to break the cycle of recidivism. Even access to proper medical care, including Mental Health care. There are models all over the country where they have beefed up the Services Within the community. And they have provided access to health care and Mental Health care in particular, which helped to break the cycle, and reduce recidivism dramatically so there are ways to do this. And i couldnt agree more that it is a public responsibility as well as a private responsibility. Professor glaude, how do you measure improvement on things like this . Oh, well, we can measure it by just looking at the data, right. What we have to do is look at the number of young men of color, returning to prison, look at the numbers of young boys of color who find themselves caught up in the juvenile system. We can measure it by way of looking at Graduation Rates, admission rates to higher education. We have the standards of judgement, of valued in measures to see whether or not this project will work. This initiative will work. But i want to be very clear. Were returning our kids to opportunity. Where social networks have broken down, the social Service Delivery institutions have failed, where Public Schools are being closed. Work has simply disappeared so part of what this involves, i mean in some ways, and i would like to say, and i say this not to suggest that president obama is doing too little too late. I dont want to get involved in that kind of i a debate but in effect what we are do something putting a bandaid on a gunshot wound. And i guess bandaids are okay. But what we need is a more robust discussion, a more robust policy initiative to address the crisis that is engulfing, i know particularly black communities, and black men, right. And so part of what i dont want is a kind of Market Driven solution to a longstanding social and moral problem that has defined the nation for generations. Professor eddie glaude at Princeton University and Gail Christopher at the Kellogg Foundation, this is the first of many conversations. I hope so, thank you. I hope so, thank you so much woodruff for the first time in two decades, the governments making significant changes to the nutrition labels on the food and drinks you buy at the store. Jeffrey brown sorts through the details and what the changes are designed to do. Brown as Michelle Obama said today unless you have a thesaurus, microscope, calculator or a degree in nutrition you were out of luck so the new labels put forward by the food and Drug Administration aim to reduce confusion about calories, serving sizes and more. We get an explanation from William Dietz former director from the cdc division of nutrition and physical activity. Welcome to you. I want to start with some props that we have to help us, a 12 ounce bottle of soda that used to be thought of as a single serving, and a 20 ounce bot sell nowadays perhaps at the lower end of what people actually consume in a serving. How do the new labels deal with this growth in serving sizes. Well, the Nutrition Facts Panel was originally developed about 20 to 30 years ago. At a time when servings were much smaller than they are today. And the 12 ounce to the 20 ounce soda is a good illustration. Another good illustration is that ice cream used to be a serving was half a cup and today its a cup so one of the most important changes in the Nutrition Facts Panel is an updating of pork size. All right so, now i want to show a proposed new label so we can see another way that these new labels would help. This emphasizes calories and the number of servings are given much more prominence here this is to overcome some of the confusion. Well, twofold, yes. Part of it is to overcome confusion, part of it is to highlight the role of calories. The issue in the United States today so buys obesity and that is caused by excess calories so highlighting the caloric content of the product is an important step towards trying to control obesity. Theres also in this new proposed label at least, something new. Its a separate line for sugars that are added. Explain what that means and why its important. Well, the last two dietary guidelines under two different administrations, 2005 and 2010 called for a reduction in the intake of added sugars by americans. But the prior labels did not have added sugars on them. Furthermore, we know that sugars are an important contributor to obesity. So high liingt added sugars gives americans an additional piece of information on how to begin their weight. In countrying thinking about how important all of this is, how much is known about the degree to which people actually read these labels and are guided by them . Well, my understanding is that about a third much people read those Nutrition Facts Panels today. But our hope is that this will get increased use. And as the panel becomes more helpful, to helping americans make good decisions about their nutrition, that if will receive increasing use. But its certainly not be all and end all. People make decisions for all sorts of reasons and nutritional content is only one of those reasons. Also still on the table but i gather delayed so far, are changes to labels on menus, in restaurants, and fast food stores, so that of course is another component of all of this. Right. And in my view thats a much more complicated business. Because restaurants, the way they prepare their portions and their food is going to be very hard to find a Nutrition Facts Panel too. But certainly most people get their calories from those products that they buy in the grocery stores. And those products are going have the Nutrition Facts Panel which will enable a more educated judgement about that purchase. And finally, the Food Industry and everyone actually gets to weigh in for, before all of this is set. Would you expect changes or delays to these proposed new labels . Well, i think that theres going to be a lot of controversy about this. The Grocery Manufacturers Association had kind of a noncommittal statement this morning about their response to these panels. But i think theres an opportunity for both the industry and the public, most importantly the public, to respond to these changes. And let the federal government know how they feel about it and whether they think this is going to be helpful. Brown William Dietz, thanks so much. Youre very welcome. Woodruff a british news outlet reported today that the governments of the u. S. And United Kingdom have been literally peering into the lives of americans and britons. A Covert Program code named optic nerve apparently used computer webcams to watch online users. The Guardian Newspaper based all this on documents provided by former n. S. A employee edward snowden. Hari sreenivasan has more. Sreenivasan the report details how a British Spy Agency collected images from yahoo webcam chats, with help from the n. S. A. The images and associated meta data were stored and subject to search using experimental facial recognition software. According to the documents, in one sixmonth period, the Program Collected images of nearly two million yahoo users worldwide, including a number of sexually explicit communications. The optic nerve program did not discriminate between actual intelligence targets and innocent webchatters. Joining me to walk us through what they discovered is guardian reporter Spencer Akerman. Spencer, how does this program work . So what happened was, is as part of its very broad abilities to collect data across the internet gchq collected a lot of information from users of this specific web cam Service Based out of yahoo , messenger. And from there it went into databases that analyst kos use to comb through both the imagery and associated data around where those images came from to both find targets that it already had in its intelligence gathering purposes and figure out new targets. So you are saying that its he not just the targeted folks that got swept up in this net. What about americans who were using yahoo web chat between 2008 and 2010, should they be conditioned there are images of them stored at the nha or gchq now . Its a major question. Because gchq like the nsa does mott have the ability on the front end of its bulk collection programs to filter out data coming from the u. S. And coming from the u. K. We didnt get direct answers as to how Many Americans if any have been collected. But the rules that gchq is under on the search end, when be alyces can look through this database distinguish peerly between people believe to be in the u. K. And people not believe to be in the u. K. So americans imagery data that has been caught newspaper this could in fact be searched by gchq. The most partner of the nhs from surveillance purposes. So what did they do with all the purposes what is the facial recognition element. The facial recognition element is fascinating because its an emerging technology that even the documents can see just really isnt precisely mature yet. The idea would be from an intelligence perspective f you had a partial identifier, maybe an email address or part of a screen name of an intelligence target but didnt really have much more than that, potentially if you swept up all of this yahoo web cam data you might be able to find the image of someones face or someones body type and that could be used as part of a way of targeting this person, finding out more about this person and if necessary apprehending that person. Is there anything in the document that says this program stopped, if its still going on . Its he an interesting question am we get a precise answer to it. The latest documents indicate it was still active in 2012. When we asked if it is ongoing for it stopped we got responses similar to the one that you red out that cuss matters of law and how all of this was legal, not whether or not this actually stopped so what are the legal consequences there, was gchq allowed to do thing that perhaps the u. S. Government wouldnt do or does the u. S. Government have to get approval from the fisa court for all this. Its a fascinating question. Gchq is under fewer legal constraints than the nsa is, from the sort of equivalent privacy laws which arent really equivalent but for the sake of this discussion, close enough. All gchq analysts have to have is a reasonable suspicion, not even reasonable from a particularly legally binding context, that its intelligence targets are genuine from out of this program, if they want to search for t the protections are that whether or not they have reason to believe that the account associated are inside or outside the u. K. Beyond that, not really a lot. The question that is outstanding that nsa wouldnt address is what, if the level of access is to this database. They didnt directly address that to us when we went to them on thatnd nsa tool like the queary tool are set in the documents to work alongside this data so there is sus pintions that remain outstanding as to the degree to which nsa was able to access this data. All right, both the statements from the nsa and yahoo are on our web site, Spencer Akerman from the guardian, thanks for your time. Thanks for having me ifill finally tonight, with the oscars this weekend, we look at a film nominated for best documentary. Its centered in medan, the capitol of northern sumatra, in indonesia. Jeff is back with a conversation he recorded recently. Its a histories thats little known in the u. S. , the slaughter of more than a Million People in indonesia after a military coup in 1965. The victims were communist and those labels as such including intellectuals, Ethnic Chinese and anyone opposed to the new regime. The perpetrators were often members of paramilitary groups who carried out the executions with the a proferl of the military government. And in the new documentary the ago of killing, it is they, the killers who speak up and show exactly how they did their work. Filmmaker Joshua Oppenheimer joins us now, welcome to you. Thank you. This is a group of men who operated openly, violently, they were selfdescribed gangsters, rights . And they model themselves on movie gangsters. Thats right. In the city of madon where we made this film they recruited the dillers from the ranks of gangsters with who were hanging out in cinemas. They all had a love of hollywood fill mings. And when i met them not only were they they had never been forced to admit it was wrong but when we suggested they dramatize it they chose to suggest that they dramatize it in the style of a hollywood film. Brown so you made what is in essence a film with their cooperation, i mean they said here, let us act it out for you. Thats exactly right. I started this project in could lakes with survivors. And we were working very closely to try and document the horror that they had experienced and what its like for them to live today with the perpetrators still in power. But when the army found out what we were doing, the army warned them, threatened them not to participate in the film. The survivors then said okay, you cant film us, try and film the perpetrators. You might find out what happened to usment when i approached the perpetrators, they were boastful, eager to show what they had done. Eager to take me to the places where they killed and show how they killed. And then started to suggest stylization, improvements. And i realized that if we could let them do that we would be able to expose the wol regime that the killers had built. Brown and the obvious question is how did you get them to talk to you. But it sounds as though it wasnt a problem at all. These men have never been removed from power. Never been removed from power. Theyre still in power. They have never been forced to admit what they have done is wrong. And therefore theyve been able to cling to the lie namely the victors history that theyve told ever since 1965, justifying their actions. And imposing that version of the events on their whole society. And when they met me, an american, knowing that the United States supported, pepped in and ulted me ultimately helped to ignore and deny what had happened, they were open, immediately. Brown i want to show one little clip here, and it is one of the main characters. Just fell us a little bit about him by way of introducing it. He was, in farkts the 41s peferp traitor whom i filmed. He was mo boastful than anyone else but underpinning it with a shame, a pain, a trauma. And i recognized that the boasting and guilt are two sides of the same coin. I lingered on him. And hes the one who started to propose these ever more elaborate dram atization am as if he almost as if he was trying to run away from what he knows was wrong about what he did. Lets take a look. Thats me, im wearing a played shirt, camouflage pants, saddle shoes. See how elite i am . That is what you should wear in the studio scene. Carlo and for its killing scene, jeans. Jean. I wore jeans for killing. When you kill peerjs you should wear thick pants, like this. A checkered pattern, that would be great, but small ones. As they casually gleefully boast, as you say, describe these kinds of horror stories, one wonders what you were feeling . Well, i was astonished and horrified much of the time. But i also forced myself not to make the leap from saying these men have done something months truss to these men are monday monitors. And i think so many of the stories we tell are forced an dividing into good buys and bad guise, and these seem like they did bad things so they are good buys so we interpret their boasting that they are monsterous. But what if they are not. Our task as nonfiction physical am makers is to see what is really there. You had an end nes yan codirector, you work with many indonesians, they have gather, i imagine, have chose tone remain anonymous out of fear of their safety. What has been the reaction to the fill number indonesia. The film has helped catalyze a transformation on how indonesia talks about its past. Ode indonesians are now able to talk about the genocide as a genocide and relate to the moral catastrophe of the presentday regime built by the killers, even as the indonesian media also has tarted 20 report on the genocide as a genocide genocide and investigating it. Once the fill am was nominated for an Academy Award the government finally broke its silence. A spokesman for the president of end nes ya said yes it was a criminal about humanity but we dont need a film to tell us how to deal with it, we will deal with it in our own time that is an inadequate response but it is a sea change, because until now the government has maintained that what happened in 1965 was heroic. Finally theyve admitted that it was wrong. Thats enormous. And now recently we held a screening on capitol hill for members of congress. And the business discussion was what we we do about this. If we want to have a constructionive and ethical relationship wind nesia moving forward, we need to acknowledge the crimes of the past and our collective role in supporting, participating in and ultimately ignoring those crimes. All right. The act of killing is the new mill am film by Joshua Oppenheimer, thank you so much woodruff you can find our other conversations with oscar nominees for best documentary featured on our website. Ifill again, the major developments of the day new leaders took over in ukraine, while prorussian gunmen took control of government buildings in crimea and the u. S. Warned moscow against provocative actions aimed at ukraine, as the Russian Military sent warplanes patrolling the border. Woodruff vice week continues with our take on gluttony what does it take to be a competitive eater . Plus, we wish happy 25th birthday to the world wide web. A new Pew Research Center study explores how americans feel about the internet and its effect on our lives. 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